I'm starting to think we kept the wrong one out of the three

The Assassin · Post by **The Assassin** » Sun Apr 10, 2005 3:26 pm

Dude benefitted from being surrounded by Mulder,Hudson,and co. Hes Frank Viola. He had one good year,and everyone expects him to be great. Maybe if Zito gets out of Oakland he'll regain his form. But right now he looks VERY overrated.

The Assassin · Post by **The Assassin** » Sun Apr 10, 2005 3:41 pm

R-Jack wrote:The problem with him is when he gets right, he's more dominating than either of them, but that is only in spurts.

Between young arms not able to go nine innings yet and Zito's early flameouts, these relivers are going to have their arms falling off by the All-Star break.

Whats the deal with new ownership? Are they getting a new stadium there? Because the rumblings of them moving to Vegas are starting up here again.

Adelpiero · Post by **Adelpiero** » Sun Apr 10, 2005 3:59 pm

A's

future is bright. the 3 players they got from cards will be factors on team for years. Braves players as well. They have stud young pitchers ready, and some more on way.

Zito will settle down, its still early

The Assassin · Post by **The Assassin** » Sun Apr 10, 2005 4:04 pm

R-Jack wrote:Any rumors of Vegas are started by the people of Vegas. Just like in the South Bay.

Lew Wolff gave a bunch of non-answer in a recent interview, but they are looking for a new venue in Oakland. A big problem is the lack of quality real estate along BART lines.

More like our mayor. He keeps promising that Vegas will have a MLB franchise by 2008. Despite the fact there are no plans to build a stadium,the land they keep saying would be the spot to build one this week was designated to be the spot for the new city hall,and a performing arts center.

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Sun Apr 10, 2005 4:57 pm

The Assassin wrote: He had one good year

As a favor, could you tell me which was his "one good year"?

2000 OAK 14 14 7 4 0 1 1 92.2 64 30 28 6 45 78 2.72 1.18 .195

2001 OAK 35 35 17 8 0 3 2 214.1 184 92 83 18 80 205 3.49 1.23 .230

2002 OAK 35 35 23 5 0 1 0 229.1 182 79 70 24 78 182 2.75 1.13 .218

2003 OAK 35 35 14 12 0 4 1 231.2 186 98 85 19 88 146 3.30 1.18 .219

2004 OAK 34 34 11 11 0 0 0 213.0 216 116 106 28 81 163 4.48 1.39 .263

Adelpiero · Post by **Adelpiero** » Sun Apr 10, 2005 5:05 pm

baeball in vegas is idiotic

it would go up there with these genius decisions:

1. Florida would be a great place for Major League Baseball(sincerely 10K fans for ws title run)

2. Florida is a great place for NHL

PS: retirees on fixed budgets don't pay $1500+ for season tickets

Sin,

Marlins and Devil Rays

Funkywhiteboy · Post by **Funkywhiteboy** » Sun Apr 10, 2005 8:23 pm

Adelpiero wrote:baeball in vegas is idiotic

it would go up there with these genius decisions:

1. Florida would be a great place for Major League Baseball(sincerely 10K fans for ws title run)

2. Florida is a great place for NHL

One of the all-time genius decisions:

3. Montreal can be a great baseball town. :P
WAR The Nationals!

The Assassin · Post by **The Assassin** » Sun Apr 10, 2005 8:45 pm

Dinsdale wrote:
The Assassin wrote: He had one good year

As a favor, could you tell me which was his "one good year"?

2000 OAK 14 14 7 4 0 1 1 92.2 64 30 28 6 45 78 2.72 1.18 .195

2001 OAK 35 35 17 8 0 3 2 214.1 184 92 83 18 80 205 3.49 1.23 .230

2002 OAK 35 35 23 5 0 1 0 229.1 182 79 70 24 78 182 2.75 1.13 .218

2003 OAK 35 35 14 12 0 4 1 231.2 186 98 85 19 88 146 3.30 1.18 .219

2004 OAK 34 34 11 11 0 0 0 213.0 216 116 106 28 81 163 4.48 1.39 .263

2002. When he went 23-5
:wink:

The Assassin · Post by **The Assassin** » Sun Apr 10, 2005 8:46 pm

Adelpiero wrote:baeball in vegas is idiotic

it would go up there with these genius decisions:

1. Florida would be a great place for Major League Baseball(sincerely 10K fans for ws title run)

2. Florida is a great place for NHL

PS: retirees on fixed budgets don't pay $1500+ for season tickets

Sin,

Marlins and Devil Rays

PRO Sports in Vegas is idiotic. Granted they sold out the Cub Mariner exhibition games. BUT!!!!

Lets put the Devil Rays vs the Tigers here,and see how well it draws.

AnNeg · Post by **AnNeg** » Mon Apr 11, 2005 4:23 am

Back to the original topic..... like I said before the departure of 2 of the big 3 is baring it's big ugly teeth. However, I see the Moneyball theory as sort of a recurring cycle, and this just happens to be a "rebuilding" year in the cycle. Sure the Athletics might finish last but in the grand scheme of things they're just working themselves back up after exchanging what they didn't have the resources to keep for something they can develop. I know eventually one or two of either Blanton, Haren or Harden is going to end up somewhere else once they get too good to keep, but then the cycle would just repeat itself again.

Cross Traffic · Post by **Cross Traffic** » Thu Apr 14, 2005 6:12 am

How are the A's going to build a stadium when they can't draw fans to the ballpark. No wonder they have so many day games, the area around the Coliseum is a dump.