Ben Rapelisberger at it again

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Sat Mar 06, 2010 3:45 am

Lemme preface this by saying that if he's guilty, he can rot in hell. That being said...

This one makes the McNulty case look like a slam dunk by comparison. More likely than not it is just some bar skank looking for a quick payday. Seriously, how to you sexually assault someone in the middle of a public place. It makes no damn sense. I see this "case" disappearing in less than a week.

R-Jack · Post by **R-Jack** » Sat Mar 06, 2010 4:30 am

poptart · Post by **poptart** » Sat Mar 06, 2010 5:57 am

Said, if you won't let me, baby
I'll go ahead, now
And if you like to tell me maybe
I'll go ahead, now
And If you wanna give me blue-ball
I'll go ahead, now
And if you hide in bathroom stall
I'll go ahead, now

Joe in PB · Post by **Joe in PB** » Sat Mar 06, 2010 7:37 am

Another allegation can only have 3 possible meanings:

1. Ben has a serious drinking/raping problem
2. He's dumber than a bucket of rocks
3. Both 1 & 2

None of which is good for the Steelers or their fans.

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Sat Mar 06, 2010 2:45 pm

Joe in PB wrote:Another allegation can only have 3 possible meanings:

1. Ben has a serious drinking/raping problem
2. He's dumber than a bucket of rocks
3. Both 1 & 2

None of which is good for the Steelers or their fans.

You forgot 4. Some bitch wanted to get paid.

What is going to hurt the Steelers and their fans is 2 or 3 years of mediocrity caused by the Steelers brass being unwilling to compete for free agents, not some false accusation

jiminphilly · Post by **jiminphilly** » Sat Mar 06, 2010 4:14 pm

Page stretching graphic deleted. Feel free to repost something smaller to illustrate your point.

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BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Sat Mar 06, 2010 5:10 pm

KC Scott wrote:Ben probably needs to stay out of the bars / casinos etc. - He's gonna be a target for this kind of shit, provided of course that he's really not Ted Bundy QB

Agreed 100%. All the reports indicate that he had security traveling with him, which is a step in the right direction. But hanging out at trashy college bars should be a thing of his past. Christ, he's 27 years old. Mix in a cougar hangout Ben.

Joe in PB · Post by **Joe in PB** » Sat Mar 06, 2010 5:49 pm

BSmack wrote:
Joe in PB wrote:Another allegation can only have 3 possible meanings:

1. Ben has a serious drinking/raping problem
2. He's dumber than a bucket of rocks
3. Both 1 & 2

None of which is good for the Steelers or their fans.
You forgot 4. Some bitch wanted to get paid.

That can be said once, then it comes down to #2 or #3. What's next, a car crash with his dome in another windshield? Pittsburgh is screwed, they thought they were getting a franchise QB, but ended up with a franchise rapist.........

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Sat Mar 06, 2010 5:56 pm

Joe in PB wrote:
BSmack wrote:
Joe in PB wrote:Another allegation can only have 3 possible meanings:

1. Ben has a serious drinking/raping problem
2. He's dumber than a bucket of rocks
3. Both 1 & 2

None of which is good for the Steelers or their fans.
You forgot 4. Some bitch wanted to get paid.

What is going to hurt the Steelers and their fans is 2 or 3 years of mediocrity caused by the Steelers brass being unwilling to compete for free agents, not some false accusation
That can be said once, then it comes down to #2 or #3. Pittsburgh is screwed....end of story. Time to write off another season or 3 Bri.

That "dumber than a bunch of rocks" QB has two Super Bowl rings. Christ, he's supposed to live like a monk just because some lying whore in Reno is suing him? I don't know the nature of these charges and neither do you. So have a cup of STFU until you know what the fuck you're talking about.

BTW: I remember a bunch of people telling me that I should write off Ben and the Steelers after the motorcycle crash. I didn't and here's the payoff...

Enjoy your team's sucess. Revel in it Joe.

Joe in PB · Post by **Joe in PB** » Sat Mar 06, 2010 6:03 pm

He's a HUGE embarrassment to the community and the NFL, try explaining that to your kid Bri.

BTW Football is a team game, Ben hasn't won jack by himself...except his huge payout from the Steelers.

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Sat Mar 06, 2010 6:19 pm

Joe in PB wrote:He's a HUGE embarrassment to the community and the NFL, try explaining that to your kid Bri.

Explain what to my kid? He's two years old. By the time he's even old enough to ask that kind of question, this story and (hopefully) Ben's exoneration will be a distant memory.

Even if my boy were 10 or 12 and this had happened, it really wouldn't have been a big deal. You apparently live your life through the players you root for. I don't. My boy will be taught that football is a great game to watch and play, but that worshiping football players is for suckers.

BTW Football is a team game, Ben hasn't won jack by himself...except his huge payout from the Steelers.

Nice strawman argument. NOT.

Joe in PB · Post by **Joe in PB** » Sat Mar 06, 2010 6:41 pm

Even if my boy were 10 or 12 and this had happened, it really wouldn't have been a big deal.

Evidently someone repeatedly being accused of rape is no big deal for you, at least if he's your teams QB.

End of story........

Van · Post by **Van** » Sat Mar 06, 2010 7:09 pm

Evidently someone repeatedly being accused of rape is no big deal for you

One person's rape is another person's Wednesday afternoon episode of Jeopardy, huh, Frau Vogel?

:twisted:

-Yours on the down-low in San Diego

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Sat Mar 06, 2010 7:27 pm

Joe in PB wrote:
Even if my boy were 10 or 12 and this had happened, it really wouldn't have been a big deal.
Evidently someone repeatedly being accused of rape is no big deal for you, at least if he's your teams QB.

End of story........

I don't care who he plays for. Whatever comes of this case, I will still be a Steelers fan and I will still pull for the players the Steelers put on the field. If Ben is not one of them anymore, then that will be his loss, not mine. Sorry if you expected that I would get all weepy over the thought that a professional football player might not be a choirboy. Save that shit for KC Paul.

Screw_Michigan · Post by **Screw_Michigan** » Sat Mar 06, 2010 7:29 pm

College kids hanging out at a bar that has a $20 cover?

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Sat Mar 06, 2010 7:32 pm

Screw_Michigan wrote:College kids hanging out at a bar that has a $20 cover?

Don't forget the VIP area. Doesn't sound like any kind of college bar I ever went to.

Joe in PB · Post by **Joe in PB** » Sat Mar 06, 2010 9:55 pm

BSmack wrote:
Joe in PB wrote:
Even if my boy were 10 or 12 and this had happened, it really wouldn't have been a big deal.
Evidently someone repeatedly being accused of rape is no big deal for you, at least if he's your teams QB.

End of story........
I don't care who he plays for. Whatever comes of this case, I will still be a Steelers fan and I will still pull for the players the Steelers put on the field. If Ben is not one of them anymore, then that will be his loss, not mine. Sorry if you expected that I would get all weepy over the thought that a professional football player might not be a choirboy. Save that shit for KC Paul.

Lets get one thing straight, no matter how you spin it, like it or not, Rapistburger is a role model, & kids look up to him. Obviously that is a concept you can't grasp.

Funny how these same problems don't happen to Peyton Manning, Philip Rivers, Brett Favre or anybody else not named Kobe Bryant.

Obviously the problem isn't just some gold digging bitches, its a big moron, and that moron is your QB.

Good luck with the Steeler 3 ring circus this season, I'm sure Raven, Bengal and Brown fans are loving this........

Mace · Post by **Mace** » Sat Mar 06, 2010 11:08 pm

Considering the fact that he hasn't been charged with a crime...at least not yet.....it's a little early to hang him out to dry, don't ya think?

Sin,

Duke Lacrosse team

Joe in PB · Post by **Joe in PB** » Sun Mar 07, 2010 1:27 am

Good point,

Sincerely,

mvscal · Post by **mvscal** » Sun Mar 07, 2010 2:53 am

Mace wrote:Considering the fact that he hasn't been charged with a crime...at least not yet.....it's a little early to hang him out to dry, don't ya think?

If this had been the first such allegation, you might have a point. It's becoming pretty clear that he is a skeevy molester with a serious drinking problem.

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Sun Mar 07, 2010 3:16 am

Joe in PB wrote:Lets get one thing straight, no matter how you spin it, Rapistburger is a role model, like it or not, & kids look up to him. Obviously that is a concept you don't understand.

Put a maxi pad on that bleeding gash. If he's a role model, it is because someone failed at parenting. My boy will learn that skill on the playing field does not equal virtue off the field.

Funny how these same problems don't happen to Peyton Manning, Philip Rivers, Brett Favre or anybody else not named Kobe Bryant. Obviously the problem isn't just some gold digging bitches, its a big moron, and that moron is your QB.

Niiiiice logical fallacy.

Last I checked, Ben Roethlisberger has never so much as been charged with a crime in his life. Not once. Never even so much as an solitary indictment. And in this case, the cops were so convinced that there was nothing tha they allowed him to leave the state instead of holding him or charging him.

Good luck with the Steeler 3 ring circus this season, I'm sure Raven, Bengal and Brown fans are loving this........

What 3 ring circus? This shit will be resolved one way or another before training camp is open. I hope he's innocent, but if he's not, Dennis Dixon will line up and play QB for the Steelers and life will go on.

trev · Post by **trev** » Sun Mar 07, 2010 6:19 am

Guilty or not, since he's accused of a past rape, he should not be hanging out in private rooms with hookers.

Mace · Post by **Mace** » Sun Mar 07, 2010 4:30 pm

mvscal wrote:
Mace wrote:Considering the fact that he hasn't been charged with a crime...at least not yet.....it's a little early to hang him out to dry, don't ya think?
If this had been the first such allegation, you might have a point. It's becoming pretty clear that he is a skeevy molester with a serious drinking problem.

Being accused doesn't mean that either sexual assault actually occurred. He may have a drinking problem, or not, but the fact that he's been accused of something doesn't make him guilty. Anyone assuming guilt based on what little information that has been made available to the public is a fucking moron. Hell, the police haven't even filed a charge yet,

Mace · Post by **Mace** » Sun Mar 07, 2010 4:32 pm

trev wrote:Guilty or not, since he's accused of a past rape, he should not be hanging out in private rooms with hookers.

You're right,Trev. He's asking for trouble by doing so.

R-Jack · Post by **R-Jack** » Sun Mar 07, 2010 4:57 pm

trev wrote:since he's accused of a past rape, he should not be hanging out in private rooms with hookers.

RACK

mvscal · Post by **mvscal** » Mon Mar 08, 2010 3:13 am

Mace wrote:Being accused doesn't mean that either sexual assault actually occurred.

Yes, of course. An innocent victim of circumstance no doubt. The numerous and disparate allegations must all be coincidental. Poor guy. Terrible bad luck.

He may have a drinking problem,

Right. Just like how he may have a raping problem.

Mace · Post by **Mace** » Mon Mar 08, 2010 3:37 am

You assume that he has a drinking problem because there's a picture of him where he's obviously intoxicated? Hmm, I think there's a whole lot of guys here who must have drinking problems based on your Sherlock Holmes power of deductive reasoning. :roll:
If he's raped anyone, he should be in prison, but I'll wait for the jury to come back with a guilty verdict...oh wait, maybe I'll wait for a charge to be filed first before I jump to any conclusions. :roll:

mvscal · Post by **mvscal** » Mon Mar 08, 2010 3:49 am

Mace wrote:You assume that he has a drinking problem because there's a picture of him where he's obviously intoxicated?

It is abundantly clear that he has a drinking problem. I gave him the benefit of the doubt on the first allegation. The second allegation strains credulity.

Hmm, I think there's a whole lot of guys here who must have drinking problems

I wouldn't think that to be a very controversial assumption at all. I wonder how many of them have been at the center of multiple sexual assault allegations? Not very many, I would say.

To be perfectly honest, I would have to admit that I drink more than is good for me and yet I have never been charged with a sexual assault of any kind.

Mace · Post by **Mace** » Mon Mar 08, 2010 4:23 am

Good for you, but you're not an NFL QB either.

Joe in PB · Post by **Joe in PB** » Mon Mar 08, 2010 5:38 am

Are there other NFL QBs that have or had this problem Mace?

I didn't think so.

Sure maybe Ben didn't do anything, but he's suppose to be a team leader, and that is exactly what he isn't. Unless being able to drink like a champion counts. Beyond that, well, that is exactly what the police are looking into.....again.

Van · Post by **Van** » Mon Mar 08, 2010 8:03 am

mvscal wrote:To be perfectly honest, I would have to admit that I drink more than is good for me and yet I have never been charged with a sexual assault of any kind.

That Mrs. Vogel is a saint, isn't she?

Hell, for that matter Ben hasn't been charged yet either.

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Mon Mar 08, 2010 1:34 pm

Joe in PB wrote:Are there other NFL QBs that have or had this problem Mace?

I didn't think so.

Sure maybe Ben didn't do anything, but he's suppose to be a team leader, and that is exactly what he isn't. Unless being able to drink like a champion counts. Beyond that, well, that is exactly what the police are looking into.....again.

Nope, not a team leader at all.

Mace · Post by **Mace** » Mon Mar 08, 2010 4:47 pm

I don't know if Big Ben has a drinking problem or not...and no one else in here can make a fair assessment of it either. If he does, then he should do something about it. If not, then he shouldn't change anything that he's doing until he's ready to change his lifestyle. If nothing else, his drinking/hanging out at bars is leaving him vulnerable to accusations by females whose allegations may, or may not, be true. Time will tell on those accounts. After the first allegation, Ben should have avoided putting himself in situations where he could be accused of wrongdoing....but he has failed to do that. At this point, he's guilty of using poor judgment....and maybe a lot more. We shall see. No one here is qualified to make a judgment of him based on the skimpy information being reported up to this point...including his alleged "drinking problem".

Joe in PB · Post by **Joe in PB** » Mon Mar 08, 2010 5:14 pm

Come on Mace, you are or were a parole officer correct? Then why all the dancing?

If one of your parolees rams his face into a windshield, then subsequently is accused of sexual assault twice in little over a year, that isn't an indication of a problem?

mvscal hit the nail on the head:

I gave him the benefit of the doubt on the first allegation. The second allegation strains credulity.

Which brings us back to he either has a drinking problem, or he's dumber than a bucket of rocks.

Mace · Post by **Mace** » Mon Mar 08, 2010 6:17 pm

Dancing? Hardly. As a parole officer, I dealt with literally hundreds of "allegations" being made against my offenders (all of whom obviously have criminal records-Ben doesn't) and at at least half of them were false allegations. There was always some motive behind the phone calls reporting violations....none of which had to do with winning a civil suit or settling for a huge chunk of change out of court...but there was always a reason. I had one guy's wife go so far as banging her head against the wall in their home so she could file domestic abuse charges against her husband and get him sent to jail so she could shack up with her boyfriend....just as one example as to the length some folks will go. Ben is wealthy and might possibly drink too much, so he's a convenient target for some golddigging whore who's looking to cash in on his fame and fortune. Not saying that's what happened, but it is certainly a possibility. If Ben is a rapist, prove it and I'll say he should be in prison. Accusations against celebs are not always true, Joe, and this could be yet another example. I've not read enough about the allegations to even make a legitimate judgment on the situation, so I don't know how anyone else could reasonably think that they can.

As for the "role model" crap you posted......I'm the role model for my kids, not Ben, or Payton, or Tiger. If those folks are the role models for today's youth, then there's a shitload of parents not parenting.

Van · Post by **Van** » Mon Mar 08, 2010 6:20 pm

Mace is 100% correct. All we have right now is a crashed motorcycle incident and a whole lotta speculation with nothing substantive to back it up.

Joe in PB · Post by **Joe in PB** » Mon Mar 08, 2010 6:50 pm

So for you friggen apologists the fact Ben is a NFL QB is the main reason these allegations have come about. No matter that these type of allegations haven't happened to other QBs, or other top athletes, except Kobi.

Magic Johnson, Michael Jordan, John Daily, the list is endless, and they all like or liked to party heavy, yet none of them have had this same problem.

Wait it’s not a problem, its all just a big coincidence, & a lot of gold diggers, right?

Mace · Post by **Mace** » Mon Mar 08, 2010 7:16 pm

Joe in PB wrote:So for you friggen apologists the fact Ben is a NFL QB is the main reason these allegations have come about. No matter that these type of allegations haven't happened to other QBs, or other top athletes, except Kobi.

Magic Johnson, Michael Jordan, John Daily, the list is endless, and they all like or liked to party heavy, yet none of them have had this same problem.

Wait it’s not a problem, its all just a big coincidence, & a lot of gold diggers, right?

No, I'm not a Ben apologist....just someone who would prefer hearing all of the facts before making a judgment. I hope to hell that you never get picked for jury duty.

(Prosecutor's opening statement) "The prosecution alleges that the defendant committed felonious misconduct on the 4th day of March, 2010......interrupted by Joe in PB...."GUILTY AS CHARGED, YOUR HONOR!!! HANG THAT MOTHERFUCKER RIGHT NOW!!!!"

Yeah, you're obviously a fucking rocket scientist. :roll:

Screw_Michigan · Post by **Screw_Michigan** » Mon Mar 08, 2010 7:20 pm

"You see, sir, it would be hard for me to remain impartial considering the defendant is a...negro."

Sin,

Joe in PB · Post by **Joe in PB** » Mon Mar 08, 2010 7:37 pm

Yes I refered to Ben as Rapistburger, and did say that it appears he has a drinking/sexual assault problem, but what I am talking about now is purley his drinking problem which makes him dumber than a bucket of rocks, and puts him in compromising positions. To have two allegations in little over a year seems to prove my point, well at least to me it does.

Everybody makes mistakes, live & learn, but unfortunately for Ben that isn't the case.

No, I'm not a rocket scientist, and its quite obvious that neither are you Mace. Seems your clients are rubbing off on you my friend.