oh where to begin.....

TheJON · Post by **TheJON** » Wed Oct 13, 2010 6:30 am

Holy crap I can't believe I actually guessed my password correctly- on the first try. Amazing.

Anyhoo...

I tried reading some old threads to see what has been discussed on this board and I almost died of boredom. I take an LOA for a while and I have to come back to this gay shit? Keep it up and I might actually have to start posting here again despite the fact that I promised myself I would retire my message board days once I turned 30.

well this is a football board, no? So let's see here....

Iowa is who I thought they would be. I predicted a 10-2 season with a loss to Arizona and tOSU back in the Spring and I have absolutely no doubts that the Iowa-tOSU game will be for the Rose Bowl (or national title game for the Buckeyes). Arizona is an average football team and that was, as I had expected, a giant fluke. 9:45 central time start on the West Coast playing a team that is coached by a former Hawkeye in the biggest game of that program in the last 15 years = bad matchup. Blocked punt, dropped pass turns into pick 6, kick return for TD all in the 1st half. I didn't think we would play THAT bad, but I was not surprised with the loss. Iowa beats Arizona 9 out of 10 on a neutral field by 17+ points. No question about it.

Michigan cannot beat Iowa on Saturday without a similar fluke. It won't happen again though. Iowa is too experienced and too fundamentally sound to let it happen twice. Robinson will get some yards and Michigan will score a few times, but in the end Iowa will be too physical and our big play receivers will be too much for Michigans terrible defense to handle. I recall being ripped on here by Michigan fan for the hiring of Greg Robinson last year. But what do I know, right?

Michigan State is very good and they might go 11-1 with that schedule. Gameday might be in Iowa city in a couple weeks for that game. I don't expect Sparty to lose their next 2 games and neither michigan or Wisconsin have much of a shot at beating Iowa. I expect that game to be for a BCS bowl and, for Michigan State, a co-Big 10 title. I am not surprised by Sparty's run. I said before last year they were a year away from being a really great team.

LSU is the biggest fraud in sports history.

Oklahoma is not a Top 10 team and they're only ranked that high because of name recognition. Who were the 2 dipshits in the AP poll that gave them number 1 votes? I've never been a Phil Steele guy, but that dolt picked them to win the national title. They fucking went 8-5 last year. Put them in the Big-10, SEC, or Pac-10 and they lose 3-4 games. The Big-12 is pitiful.

Bret Bielema is a disgrace to the Hawkeye nation and I hope he either removes his Hawkeye tattoo or dies of cancer. I can't stand Brewster and I have thought he would fail at Minnesota since Day 1, but Bret.....that was classless and you're a douche. I have removed you from my memory as a former Hawkeye.

I still know nothing about Notre Dame. I've seen them play but I'm not sure if they're decent or suck. This might be the first time I've had a hard time deciding if I thought a team sucked or not.

I wonder if Big-10 teams will have Denard Robinson figured out by next year, and if Tate Forcier will end up splitting time with him the next couple of seasons. It will be interesting to see. I could see Robinson end up like Vince Young or he could be a one-hit wonder. I wouldn't be surprised with either. I wonder if MClub still disagrees with me that Forcier has no upside! Probably not!

I'm starting to wonder if it will ever happen for Randy Shannon at Miami. I thought he was a good hire and there has been improvement since his first year, but they should be doing better. That's not a program that should take 5-6 years to get to a BCS Bowl in that conference especially. For a defensive coach, they sure to suck on defense. If they don't win out, I think Miami should can him. This is year 4. You know where your program is going to be by the 4th year.

My national title pick-
Ohio St over Oregon

That is all! Rip away....

M Club · Post by **M Club** » Wed Oct 13, 2010 9:17 am

funny, noticed we're playing iowa this week and was going to suggest to the best of the board stalkers that they type "jon dsm failed insurance agent hasselhoff dead" into google and see what pops up.

i agree it's going to take a fluke for michigan to beat iowa, though not so much because of your defense. michigan moved the ball well on msu before some piss poor turnovers, so get those ironed out and i'm sure we'll score a reasonable amount of points, though reasonable only counts if we had even an average offense. i get that you hate gerg, but he still gets some time to prove himself with actual players. he has a pretty good defensive line but absolutely shit linebackers and 8-year-old children for defensive backs. probably won't get much better next year because our shitty linebackers graduate, and if takes graduation to get them off the field, er..

forcier has plenty of upside from last year, if only because he can probably make the zone read now as well as make throws from the pocket. can't really blame him for a heisman trophy candidate emerging from the depth chart.

welcome back, homo.

TheJON · Post by **TheJON** » Wed Oct 13, 2010 1:17 pm

The Iowa-Michigan game will be won and lost at the line of scrimmage. If Michigan can't get pressure up front, Iowa will get the ball downfield all day at will.

The problem with the Michigan offense is Iowa's defensive schemes. You're right, Michigan should still score some points. No matter how good a defense is, that Michigan offense is scary good and will score at least 17-20 against anyone. But as we know, they need much more than that to win with their defense. But I'm not sure they can get it against Iowa.

We almost never blitz, so it's going to be hard for Robinson to bust a big run by catching Iowa in a blitz. The defense plays their gaps well and play smart. The safeties are good and almost never allow a big passing play. To beat Iowa's defense, you have to consistently throw the 7-8 yard routes and not make mistakes. I don't know that Robinson could do that.

I know last year he came in late and almost brought Michigan back, but Iowa wasn't prepared for him. They gameplanned for Forcier. This year they've got 2 weeks to prepare for Robinson.

Hopefully Michigan won't just lay down and quit the rest of the year after the Iowa game. It made our win last year look unimpressive but Michigan was actually a decent team when we played them. If they just quit down the stretch again, DickRod should be fired.

buckeye_in_sc · Post by **buckeye_in_sc** » Wed Oct 13, 2010 1:29 pm

Did Jon really go M2 with game time smack about travel? WOW

Iowa mark your time before getting buttfucked in the mouf by the Buckeyes come November 20th

TheJON · Post by **TheJON** » Wed Oct 13, 2010 1:32 pm

LSU is a fraud and anyone that has watched them knows that.

They haven't beaten 2 OOC ranked teams. They beat 2 OOC teams that the voters were dumb enough to put in the Top 25 prior to the season and have since been exposed as major frauds.

UNC played with their 2nd string and the Tigers were 6 yards away from one of the most epic meltdowns of the century.

West Virginia is terrible. They were even luckier than LSU has been to have beaten freakin' Marshall. Marshall was the better team.

The Tennessee game needs no explanation. That was lucky as shit against one of the worst teams in the nation- at home. And Florida was lucky too. 1 inch away from that being a forward pass and the game over and then the TD pass was very close to not being a catch. We're talking a mere inches away from losing to an average Florida team.

Oh, and without that bullshit pass interference call inside the 5 on the final drive against UT, I don't think LSU wins. Everyone wants to talk about the 13 men on the field play, but the real big play was the biggest bullcrap PI call a couple plays before it. QB throws out the back of the end zone where no one could catch it and the defender barely makes any contact. How many freakin calls does LSU have to get before someone starts investigating these refs? What a joke.

TheJON · Post by **TheJON** » Wed Oct 13, 2010 1:40 pm

buckeye_in_sc wrote:Did Jon really go M2 with game time smack about travel? WOW

Iowa mark your time before getting buttfucked in the mouf by the Buckeyes come November 20th

Game time was a factor. We didn't lose because of it. We lost because of about 10 other factors combined heavily in Arizona's favor. Let's see here....time, West coast, revenge, Stoops a former Hawkeye, road game, 100 degree weather, biggest game in over a decade for Arizona, Arizona spent a little extra time in the offseason preparing for Iowa (Stoops said this), etc...

It was a predictable loss. Arizona did little to force Iowa's mistakes. It was just one of those complete meltdowns from a team that never melts down. Arizona was unimpressive in that game. Everything was handed to them, and clearly the above factors played a key role in the game. Unless you can think of another reason for why an Iowa team that never makes the mistakes it made happened to make those UNFORCED mistakes on that day? I suppose it could just be an odd coincidence, right?

M Club · Post by **M Club** » Wed Oct 13, 2010 1:47 pm

TheJON wrote:The Iowa-Michigan game will be won and lost at the line of scrimmage. If Michigan can't get pressure up front, Iowa will get the ball downfield all day at will.

eh, this is no fun if i agree with you. actually, i don't. i'll just go ahead and presume the michigan d-line dominates your o-line but it doesn't matter because obi ezeh will sprint straight to the sideline to face guard ferentz while jonas muton will shed some pulling guard just so he can go let that lonely looking tackle over there put him on his arse. the dbs will line up 8 yards off the los of auto-back pedal 30 yards no matter what the situation is.

seriously, our only hope defensively is that stanzi is as boneheaded as he was last year and airs it out. i haven't watched him this year so i have no idea what he looks like.

TheJON · Post by **TheJON** » Wed Oct 13, 2010 2:16 pm

Stanzi has actually matured this year. He has just 2 picks and 1 was a perfect throw right through McNutt's chest pads and turned into a Pick 6. The other he tried to force one down field but it wasn't costly- just turned into a well placed punt.

By the way, have Michigan fans ever thought about cheering? 110,000 and that place seems very quiet. Is there anti-clapping and yelling laws in the state of Michigan that I'm unaware of?

Screw_Michigan · Post by **Screw_Michigan** » Wed Oct 13, 2010 2:29 pm

TheJON wrote:By the way, have Michigan fans ever thought about cheering? 110,000 and that place seems very quiet. Is there anti-clapping and yelling laws in the state of Michigan that I'm unaware of?

Lots and LOTS of old people, poor architecture of the stadium.

M Club · Post by **M Club** » Wed Oct 13, 2010 2:35 pm

the renovations supposedly make the place louder, though i haven't talked to anyone who's been there, so who knows. didn't mgo say he went last weekend?

Screw_Michigan · Post by **Screw_Michigan** » Wed Oct 13, 2010 2:39 pm

Honestly, I'd think the new press box and shit would help a little, but I think the biggest problem is with how deep the stadium is built into the ground and how the stands go "out" rather than "up."

King Crimson · Post by **King Crimson** » Wed Oct 13, 2010 2:55 pm

samo Jon. If a Big Ten team had W's over Florida State, Texas and AFA (they're ranked!)....Jon would be buying some yoga lessons at the community center to better learn to skullfuck himself with loud slurping noises when that 11 AM Indiana-Illinois tilt fires up on ESPN while he fantasizes about that man Pam Oliver tickling his anal pucker with a feather...while fully erect Gerry DiNardo looks on with a smile. Habitually, it's the old Big Ten logic....where a roadie to N'Western and a 4 win Purdue team are mighty challenges but a 5-0 Missouri team probably sucks. we know why, because they haven't played anyone....take a look at some Big Ten SOS lately? tOSU is in the 100's. No bias from jbitch. lol.

Do I think OU is all that, no. But....not surprised to see Jon back in eternal recurring form. and stay with the yoga.

TheJON · Post by **TheJON** » Wed Oct 13, 2010 3:34 pm

Oh Crimson, you silly boy!

Too easy....

I'm not a Big-10 homer. I'm an Iowa homer. This is the first year I have said the Big-10 wasn't mediocre in probably 5 years. You should try a little reading comprehension for a change.

As for OU...

Texas sucks, period. Utah State sucks. Air Force is ranked because they're unbeaten and the pollsters are desperate to find teams right now at the bottom of the Top 25. Who the hell else do you put in there? Wake me when they beat someone with a pulse...

They had a nice win over FSU. I will give you that, but playing like crap in 4 of 5 games is not worthy of such a ranking, and especially not of number 1 votes.

The Big-12 is bad this year. There's really no debating that. There are about 7 terrible teams. We still don't know how good Nebraska is. Texas is down (though I think if they play flawless, they could beat Nebraska). Mizzou hasn't beaten anyone. Iowa St, K-Stae, Kansas, Colorado, Baylor, Texas A&M, and Texas Tech are bad teams. Okie St didn't impress me the 1 game I saw them play (vs A&M). There's going to be a few teams in that league with much better records than they would have if they played in a better conference.

TheJON · Post by **TheJON** » Wed Oct 13, 2010 3:38 pm

Oh, ànd I almost forget that epic performance against that powerhouse Cincinnati squad.

Impressive

Terry in Crapchester · Wed Oct 13, 2010 3:41 pm

TheJON wrote:I still know nothing about Notre Dame. I've seen them play but I'm not sure if they're decent or suck. This might be the first time I've had a hard time deciding if I thought a team sucked or not.

I'll help you out with that one. We still suck, but we're gradually getting better. We'll post a better record this year than last, but given this year's schedule, that was to be expected anyway. The next two years will tell the tale as to the long-term future of this program in Kelly's hands.

Disclaimer: "we still suck" does not mean that we suck on par with Western Michigan. Sorry, Screw.

Screw_Michigan · Post by **Screw_Michigan** » Wed Oct 13, 2010 3:44 pm

Terry in Crapchester wrote:Disclaimer: "we still suck" does not mean that we suck on par with Western Michigan. Sorry, Screw.

Fair enough, but we'll see Saturday.

Killian · Post by **Killian** » Wed Oct 13, 2010 8:14 pm

Jsc810 wrote:
TheJON wrote:LSU is the biggest fraud in sports history.
LSU has wins over 4 SEC teams and 2 ranked OOC teams, yeah they are bowl eligible right fucking now.

Suck it, bitch.

Les Miles, in gif form:

SunCoastSooner · Post by **SunCoastSooner** » Wed Oct 13, 2010 8:30 pm

This thread in one phrase or less: "Jonsense"

BlindRef · Post by **BlindRef** » Wed Oct 13, 2010 8:54 pm

Jonnnn I don't give two shits about stupid fucking iowaaaaa

Killian · Post by **Killian** » Wed Oct 13, 2010 9:05 pm

Jsc810 wrote:Les Miles, in fine form:

Right, his two loss NC team that needed 15 teams to lose just to get him in the game. The team that was loaded with talent that Saban recruited. How has he done since then? I know, I know. 6-0 this year. And they looked sharp during all those games. Props.

Screw_Michigan · Post by **Screw_Michigan** » Wed Oct 13, 2010 9:28 pm

Jsc810 wrote:You seem to be more concerned with style points than actual points.

How odd.

Well he IS a pussy who roots for a team other than his alma mater who has made a career of getting blown out in bowl games they have no business being in.

Killian · Post by **Killian** » Wed Oct 13, 2010 9:45 pm

Fredo, shut the fuck up when adults are talking about football.

JSC, I don't give a fuck about style points. Miles had to rely on multiple other teams to lose in order to get a shot at the NC. That can't be argued. Miles is undefeated right now, but how long will that last with his clock management issues? it hasn't bitten him in the ass yet because he hasn't played anyone with more talent than LSU.

Miles will win the vast majority of his game so long as his teams have superior talent. When teams have similar talent levels, Miles struggles with clock management. He doesn't get plays in on time, he throws passes as time expires with TO's in his pocket when a FG will tie the game and he tells his QB to spike the ball with. 1 second left.

He'll win more than he loses, but he's not an elite coach.

SunCoastSooner · Post by **SunCoastSooner** » Wed Oct 13, 2010 9:46 pm

Jsc810 wrote:You seem to be more concerned with style points than actual points.

How odd.

No what is odd is that the two teams he complained about the most not deserving respect are the only two undefeated teams left whose opponents actually have combined winning records; LSU and Oklahoma.

Killian · Post by **Killian** » Wed Oct 13, 2010 10:16 pm

When did I say anything about OU? Or are you talking about JON?

SunCoastSooner · Post by **SunCoastSooner** » Wed Oct 13, 2010 10:40 pm

Killian wrote:When did I say anything about OU? Or are you talking about JON?

Talking about Jonsense.

SunCoastSooner · Post by **SunCoastSooner** » Wed Oct 13, 2010 10:43 pm

SunCoastSooner wrote:
Jsc810 wrote:You seem to be more concerned with style points than actual points.

How odd.
No what is odd is that the two teams he complained about the most not deserving respect are the only two undefeated teams left whose opponents actually have combined winning records; LSU and Oklahoma.

And even more odd about Jonsense is his incessant harping about how terrible the big 12 is... I thinks Jon needs to pull his head out of his ass and go check which conferences had the best OOC records this season.

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Wed Oct 13, 2010 10:46 pm

SunCoastSooner wrote:the only two undefeated teams left whose opponents actually have combined winning records; LSU and Oklahoma.

I'm just curious -- is that SEC math, or B12 math?

Because here in PAC10 Country, we consider 19-13 to be a winning record.

Sin,
:facepalm:

SunCoastSooner · Post by **SunCoastSooner** » Wed Oct 13, 2010 11:34 pm

Dinsdale wrote:
SunCoastSooner wrote:the only two undefeated teams left whose opponents actually have combined winning records; LSU and Oklahoma.

I'm just curious -- is that SEC math, or B12 math?

Because here in PAC10 Country, we consider 19-13 to be a winning record.

Sin,
:facepalm:

I know you're not trying to pawn that off as Orygun's opponents records with a straight face are you? Oregon's opponents are 13-22; New Mexico 0-6, Tennessee 2-4, Portland State 2-3, ASU 3-3, Stanford 5-1, Washington State 1-5. Hell Oregon has only faced a single team above .500 period. Only Nevada's and Utah's are worse.

Ohio State is 13-19
Boise State 13-15
TCU 16-19
Nebraska 10-15
Auburn 16-16
Utah 7-22
Michigan State 16-16
Nevada 12-22
OkSt 12-15
Missouri 15-15

Nope Still looking for that magical third team....

King Crimson · Post by **King Crimson** » Thu Oct 14, 2010 1:17 am

TheJON wrote: Michigan State is very good .... I said before last year they were a year away from being a really great team.

your lack of consistent criteria is laughable. you dismiss other teams based on one game or who they haven't played.....yet, Sparty, who needs a freakish gadget play to beat ND (who sucks, according to you and ND fan and pretty much does suck) in OT in East Lansing...is STILL a "really great team" with an easy schedule. But, but, I thought there weren't easy schedules in the MG Ten (Jon redux)?

Missouri hasn't played anyone so they suck, you say (as was easily predictable). Ohio State with a SOS in the 100's....doesn't seem to fall into that criterion. They've proven themselves as title contenders. and the point isn't who's better b/ween tOSU and Mizzou.

Iowa gets benefit of the doubt for "a fluke" while other teams have losses that are utterly damning. LOL.

makes no sense. no internal coherence. you contradict yourself all over the place.

you do appear to have been right about Brewster. during your yoga retreat hiatus, both Mace (i think) and I commented that you had been correct.

TheJON · Post by **TheJON** » Thu Oct 14, 2010 6:19 am

King Crimson wrote:
TheJON wrote: Michigan State is very good .... I said before last year they were a year away from being a really great team.
your lack of consistent criteria is laughable. you dismiss other teams based on one game or who they haven't played.....yet, Sparty, who needs a freakish gadget play to beat ND (who sucks, according to you and ND fan and pretty much does suck) in OT in East Lansing...is STILL a "really great team" with an easy schedule. But, but, I thought there weren't easy schedules in the MG Ten (Jon redux)?

Missouri hasn't played anyone so they suck, you say (as was easily predictable). Ohio State with a SOS in the 100's....doesn't seem to fall into that criterion. They've proven themselves as title contenders. and the point isn't who's better b/ween tOSU and Mizzou.

Iowa gets benefit of the doubt for "a fluke" while other teams have losses that are utterly damning. LOL.

makes no sense. no internal coherence. you contradict yourself all over the place.

you do appear to have been right about Brewster. during your yoga retreat hiatus, both Mace (i think) and I commented that you had been correct.

Now you're calling my criteria (which I never once defined in this thread) for judging teams inconsistent? Try again...

Why do I think MSU is good? Well, obviously cuz they're a Big-10 team, right? I just masterbate to all Big-10 teams. I wake up every morning and play the fight songs of all 11 teams and stroke my cock in the process. Hail to the Victors really gets me hard....

Watching and thinking about Big-12 teams makes me limp. I'm sorry, but it is what it is. I now judge teams based on if the conference they play in gives me a boner the size of Jsc's double wide. Obviously.

Or maybe when I have watched a team like MSU they have been more impressive than when I watched OU. I think Cincinnati just fucked up another drive in which they moved the ball at will....

A close game vs Notre Dame? Wow, what a big fucking surprise. Imagine that....Notre Dame vs Michigan State comes down to the wire with an awesome finish. You could put Team Hasselhoff to replace the players for either team but if you have us slap on the MSU or ND jerseys, we would play an instant classic.
MSU is more well rounded than OU. If anyone has watched the Sooners over the course of the season and thinks they look like a Top 5 team, they should be sent to a mental hospital immediately.

Now if you'll excuse me, I need to get back to watching gamefilm of the last 14 Indiana-Northwestern games while preparing my petition to have the Big-12 conference removed from having a BCS automatic bid.

OUMO · Post by **OUMO** » Thu Oct 14, 2010 2:57 pm

I am not even going to read through all of this, Jon gets my vote for board bitch of the year.

Screw_Michigan · Post by **Screw_Michigan** » Thu Oct 14, 2010 2:59 pm

TheJON wrote: Now if you'll excuse me, I need to get back to watching gamefilm of the last 14 Indiana-Northwestern games while preparing my petition to have the Big-12 conference removed from having a BCS automatic bid.

Rack. Welcome back, Noj.

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Thu Oct 14, 2010 4:00 pm

SunCoastSooner wrote:
Dinsdale wrote:
SunCoastSooner wrote:the only two undefeated teams left whose opponents actually have combined winning records; LSU and Oklahoma.

I'm just curious -- is that SEC math, or B12 math?

Because here in PAC10 Country, we consider 19-13 to be a winning record.

Sin,
:facepalm:
I know you're not trying to pawn that off as Orygun's opponents records with a straight face are you?

Yes I am, but I misunderstood your statement -- I somehow took that to mean the record of remaining opponents. Under that scenario, I stand by my numbers. Just a misinterpretation of your statement, is all.

And Oregon only has one sub-.500 (at present) opponent left on the schedule. But who knows, by Civil War time, OS could be sub-.500... they relied wayyyyy too heavily on James Rodgers for their offense...

Speaking of -- anyone particularly familiar with the medical-grayshirt dealio? The Sheepfuckers are convinced the NCAA will grant him a grayshirt to come back next season. I didn't think thatwas even an option for a senior who played 4.25 games. Anyone have the skinny on this?

MgoBlue-LightSpecial · Thu Oct 14, 2010 4:22 pm

M Club wrote:the renovations supposedly make the place louder, though i haven't talked to anyone who's been there, so who knows. didn't mgo say he went last weekend?

The only time I've been was '05 to see them play an Eastern team that I don't think crossed the 40 yard line.

Cuda · Post by **Cuda** » Thu Oct 14, 2010 8:39 pm

TheJON wrote:I'm not a Big-10 homer. I'm an Iowa homer. .

You must have been gone a long time. I seem to remember you being a ball-sucking Corn fan. Iowa, huh? They're just the Corn with admissions standards

Killian · Post by **Killian** » Thu Oct 14, 2010 9:10 pm

Cuda wrote:

Mikey · Post by **Mikey** » Thu Oct 14, 2010 9:34 pm

Cuda's a fatass who likes to fly fish on the moon?

Who knew.

TheJON · Post by **TheJON** » Fri Oct 15, 2010 1:53 am

Off topic......

Fishing vs Playing soccer. Which is gayer? Discuss.

OUMO · Post by **OUMO** » Fri Oct 15, 2010 1:34 pm

Does not matter what you do Jon, you make it gay.