USC to recieve yet another 2 year extension of probation

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USC to recieve yet another 2 year extension of probation

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Will Ferrell is showing up at Game Day, the NCAA has banned celebrities like Ferrell from attending USC events
http://twitter.com/cbfowler/status/29028175874

you know ESPN is going to claim 0 responsibility when the NCAA drops the hammer on USC again for breaking rules that only apply to USC
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Christ, you're in full faggot meltdown mode now. It's like life is running up the score on you and refusing to high five you after the game.
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I'm thinking some timeout time is in order. Pondering...
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we prolly only need one thread about this.
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No we don't.....just wait until someone else says prayers for the kid and his family. Then schmuck will start a gay catholic thread and claim that he's part of some victim group and sue the family for getting prayers before him.
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King Crimson wrote:we prolly only need one thread about this.

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King Crimson wrote:we prolly only need one thread about this.
was there another thread about ESPN inviting someone, who was mentioned by name in the NCAA report as an unfair influence on recruits going to USC, to take part of a gameday broadcast from USC even though the NCAA said that he was not to be at USC events that involved the football program? If so, I must have missed that one.
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Ferrell and other celebs are banned from attending USC events involving the football program? Wasn't aware of that. Gotta link? I can understand if they're talking about banquets or team functions....maybe....but to appear on Gameday or attend a football game? I doubt it.
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Will Ferrell is mentioned by name in the NCAAs report. He and other celebrities are banned from practice, getting field passes and any sort of promotion of the schools football program while the school is on probation.
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SoCalTrjn wrote:Will Ferrell is mentioned by name in the NCAAs report. He and other celebrities are banned from practice, getting field passes and any sort of promotion of the schools football program while the school is on probation.
Which would not include a Gameday appearance.
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I think I'm on the record as being in favor of USC getting the hammer... but Gameday appearances, while having Gameday in town may be of slight benefit to recruiting, are well-and-good in my book.
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You're a pretty whiny gash for such a tough guy. At least you've got some 9 year olds staged for your vengeance.
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Schmick is going to make both Will Ferrell and Mark Emmert run windsprints for 8 hours.
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Wow, where are the SC fans at Gameday? Boise State draws 10k plus, and SC draws maybe 2k.
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Cross Traffic wrote:Wow, where are the SC fans at Gameday? Boise State draws 10k plus, and SC draws maybe 2k.
They're all out watching the Saturday morningToejam coached Pop Warner game, but they'll show up for the USC game tonight......unless there's a decent movie on HBO tonight or Toejam calls for a night practice when his little guys don't play the perfect game.
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Gameday was at 6 am, the game is at 5 pm, people got other shit to do then drive to the coliseum 11 hours before the game starts.

Pop Warner teams play on Sundays
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SoCalTrjn wrote:Gameday was at 6 am, the game is at 5 pm, people got other shit to do then drive to the coliseum 11 hours before the game starts.

Pop Warner teams play on Sundays
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SoCalTrjn wrote:Will Ferrell is mentioned by name in the NCAAs report. He and other celebrities are banned from practice, getting field passes and any sort of promotion of the schools football program while the school is on probation.
I don't pretend to know all of the NCAA rules on recruiting but I do know a little more today than I knew yesterday. If Ferrell was mentioned in the NCAA report, it was because he was complicit in USC's violations of NCAA rules. I'm quoting from The Des Moines Register:

"NCAA rules prohibit potential high school recruits from having any contact with individuals considered to represent a university's athletic interests because of the potential influence boosters can have on the recruiting process."

This didn't appear in an Iowa newspaper because of anything that happened at USC, because no one in Iowa gives two fucks about USC. Rather, it was in our paper because the University of Iowa basketball program has apparently violated this rule in its recruitment of two basketball players who met Ashton Kutcher and Demi Moore during halftime of an Iowa football game this year. Iowa has conducted their investigation and is awaiting word from the NCAA. It will likely be considered a secondary rules violation unless the NCAA rules that it was not "inadvertent or an isolated incident".

Granted, this type of exposure to celebs would be far more likely to happen in L.A. than in Iowa, but it would also beg one to ask why USC didn't have their compliance office all over this type of contact with celebs. Considering the punishment dished out by the NCAA, it's also obvious that USC's violations were neither inadvertent or isolated, as I don't expect the Iowa basketball program to receive anything more than a slap on the wrist or a warning ticket with no punishment.
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There was no contact with recruits and celbrities. the report said something about the high profile celebrities runing around Trojan practices and at their games gave USC an advantage in luring recruits to the school. None of the investigation in to the football team involved recruiting except the part where Reggie Bush left Percy Harvin in his hotel room and went out to LA night clubs with Lloyd Lake instead.
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You should stop citing the "report" as it's been proven that you've never read the fucking thing.
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SoCalTrjn wrote:There was no contact with recruits and celbrities. the report said something about the high profile celebrities runing around Trojan practices and at their games gave USC an advantage in luring recruits to the school. None of the investigation in to the football team involved recruiting except the part where Reggie Bush left Percy Harvin in his hotel room and went out to LA night clubs with Lloyd Lake instead.
Bullshit.

Here's what you do when you violate the rules:
Iowa self-reports recruits meeting

DES MOINES, Iowa -- The University of Iowa told the NCAA the school allowed two basketball recruits to meet celebrity Hawkeye fans Ashton Kutcher and Demi Moore. Such a meeting would be a recruiting violation.

The recruits met the married movie stars at an Iowa-Iowa State football game in September and two former Iowa basketball players the same day, The Des Moines Register reported Sunday based on records obtained under Iowa's public records law.

NCAA rules prohibit recruits from contact with individuals considered to represent a university's athletic interests.

Iowa athletic director Gary Barta said the school has responded to the NCAA regarding its football and men's basketball team.

"We anticipate the NCAA will determine each to be unintentional secondary violations," Barta said in a statement to The Associated Press on Sunday. "In each case, staff of the UI thoroughly investigated the activity and has already educated all involved on what was not done correctly or completely."

The school's report to the NCAA said the recruits met former Hawkeye basketball players Reggie Evans and Dean Oliver after a pickup game at Carver-Hawkeye Arena, then met Kutcher and Moore in a suite at Kinnick Stadium later that day.

The NCAA staff sent a letter to Iowa officials four days later after two prospective recruits were quoted in published reports saying they met with the former basketball players, along with Kutcher and Moore.

The documents provided to the Register don't name the recruits. But reports in September and October quoted Josh Oglesby, a senior at Cedar Rapids Washington High School, and Marcus Paige, a junior at Linn-Mar High School, as saying they met Kutcher and Moore.

Oglesby announced his commitment to Iowa in late September after his official visit to the Iowa City campus. Paige has yet to announce his plans.

Mark Abbott, senior associate athletic director, said he did not believe the violations would preclude the Hawkeyes and new coach Fran McCaffery from continuing to recruit either player.

Kutcher is from Iowa and briefly attended the University of Iowa. He is an ardent supporter of the Hawkeyes, occasionally attending football and basketball games in Iowa City.

Documents said the presence of Kutcher and Moore at the football game drew a crowd, and the recruits met both actors and took pictures with them. The school's internal report said the basketball staff didn't attempt to stop to the situation because it was "uncomfortable."

Iowa associate athletic director Fred Mims said in the school's official response to the NCAA that the violations were "inadvertent" and that steps have been taken to ensure it won't happen again.

"The university is remorseful that these violations occurred," Mims wrote in a letter to the NCAA on Oct. 1. "We believe they were the result of sloppy management by our basketball staff."
What you don't do is deny, cover up, and continue to violate the rules, as USC has done for years. That tends to piss off the NCAA and pretty much assures that no one will believe the actions were inadvertent or isolated....which leads to probation, no bowl games, and a loss of scholarships.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=5748959
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bullshit.


provide one link that says that the school covered up, failed to cooperate or continued to violate rules in the Reggie Bush case.
USC was busted for not knowing what the NCAA felt they should have known and even IF anyone at USC did know, according to the NCAAs witness that date was after Bush had already left USC, not during his recruitment or while he played at USC.

When agents pay Reggie its a USC problem, when agents pay players at other schools its an agent and NCAA problem and the schools arent responsible. Double standard much?
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When agents pay Reggie its a USC problem, when agents pay players at other schools its an agent and NCAA problem and the schools arent responsible. Double standard much?
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TheJON wrote:
SoCalTrjn wrote: When agents pay Reggie its a USC problem, when agents pay players at other schools its an agent and NCAA problem and the schools arent responsible. Double standard much?
I want to ask you if you really are dumb enough to believe that, but I already know the answer is "yes".
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And, here, Toejam, is what happens to programs that self report to the NCAA and fully cooperate....unlike your cheating Trojans. NOTHING.

No penalty for Iowa; recruits cleared

DES MOINES, Iowa -- Iowa says the NCAA won't penalize the Hawkeyes for allowing two basketball recruits to meet celebrity fans Ashton Kutcher and Demi Moore.

The school said Monday that the NCAA ruled the actions by Iowa staffers were "secondary" in nature and both unintentional and accidental. Iowa also said the recruits have been fully cleared.

Published reports in September and October quoted Josh Oglesby, a senior at Cedar Rapids Washington High School, and Marcus Paige, a junior at Linn-Mar High School, as saying they met the acting couple at the Iowa-Iowa State football game in September.

The school's report said the recruits also met two former Hawkeyes basketball players that day.



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