Round 2 of the Prop 8 Fight goes to....

[mvscal]

Slavery was not ended by a declaration by the Supreme Court that it was unconstitutional, dolt. Slavery was ended by two executive orders (known as the Emancipation Proclamation) and three amendments to the U.S. Constitution.

Why don't you go ahead and hook me up with an amendment ending Slavery. Tread lightly you stupid fuck.

1. Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.

2. Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.

---13th Amendment

Go ahead and suck another cock, you stupid, piss stained fuckwit.

[Moving Sale]

You can't even read a few simple sentences without falling on your vapid head? Nowhere does any of that say Slavery is ended dumbass.

[Carson]

I get it.

Bowel Movement thinks all those prison inmates are just slaves!

[mvscal]

Nowhere does any of that say Slavery is ended dumbass.

It says it right here in plain English, you brainless, choad-gargling dipshit.

Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude....shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.

Compulsory labor for convicted criminals is not slavery. Slaves are a commodity which can be bought and sold.

The 13th amendment ended slavery in the United States, dumbfuck. The simple reality of that fact is not subject to change by your personal belief. Your opinion does peg you as a fairly shitty lawyer, though.

[MgoBlue-LightSpecial]

fairly shitty

You're feeling generous today.

[Mace]

I get it.

Bowel Movement thinks all those prison inmates are just slaves!

For the record, he calls them "clients".

[Moving Sale]

mvskkkal,
Spin it all you want. Tells us what you think it says. Tell us what you think it means, but what it actually SAYS in plain English is that slavery and involuntary servitude can exist in the US "as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted." The document isn't 'living' you ass licking racist. It says what it means and it means what it says. Just because your 10th grade teacher told you slavery was outlawed doesn’t make it true.

Mace,
Some of them even pay.

P.S. MGO is a vapid pile of hogsnot.

[mvscal]

So where do you shop for slaves? Since slavery hasn't been outlawed or anything. I should just be able to pop by Home Depot and pick up a few convicts cheap, right?

[Dr_Phibes]

When? At birth? At age 10? Or when the citizen decides he/she wants to join some protected minority class?

If you subscribe to the theory that it's a genetic disposition, it generally kicks in around the time of sexual awareness. With others still later, children are conditioned from birth and breaking a pre-programmed mindset depends on the individual.

It's similar to a racial arguement, but no one in political circles brings it up as you won't get much support for it - the minute you identify homosexuality as something genetic, it theory, you can sterilise, or alter it.

Who cares, anyway? They'll get married, get a few tax breaks, spend some cash on the home, get divorced and one takes the other to the cleaners,

[Carson]

... what it actually SAYS in plain English is that slavery and involuntary servitude can exist in the US "as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted."

Jeebus.

I THOUGHT I was joking but you just confirmed it.

I guess being a midget and having to sniff everybody's farts all day has given you brain damage.

[Moving Sale]

So where do you shop for slaves? Since slavery hasn't been outlawed or anything. I should just be able to pop by Home Depot and pick up a few convicts cheap, right?

Nice strawman you goat semen guzzling fucktwit.

Carson,
Go ahead and tell us what it says then. That's what I thought you ballsack licking quarter-wit.

[Mace]

. Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.

What this very clearly says, to me, is that neither slavery nor involuntary servitude shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction, EXCEPT as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted. Seems pretty straightforward to me. No slavery or involuntary servitude unless you've been convicted of a crime.

[Moving Sale]

But Mace it's mvskkkal and carson we are talking about here. They are complete idiots. Hell it appears they are even dumber than you.

[Mace]

But Mace it's mvskkkal and carson we are talking about here. They are complete idiots. Hell it appears they are even dumber than you.

But even they know that the 13th Amendment abolished slavery. Didn't the University of Phoenix Law School have a class on Constitutional Law? Or did you just fail it?

[Carson]

IT SAYS NO SLAVERY YA MO-RON!!!

[Moving Sale]

Hell it appears they are even dumber than you.

But even they know that the 13th Amendment abolished slavery. Didn't the University of Phoenix Law School have a class on Constitutional Law? Or did you just fail it?

Looks like I spoke too soon.


a•bol•ish (-blsh)
tr.v. a•bol•ished, a•bol•ish•ing, a•bol•ish•es
1. To do away with; annul.
2. To destroy completely.

It was not 'done away with' nor was it ‘completely destroyed.’ Why is it so hard for you people to let go of your long held delusions even when their validity has been completely destroyed, in plain English, right in front of your puffy faces?


carson,
I says, quite clearly, slavery is allowed under one clearly defined circumstance, no matter what font size you use.

[mvscal]

It was not 'done away with' nor was it ‘completely destroyed.’

So where do you go to buy slaves?

[Moving Sale]

Where do you keep finding all these strawmen?

It's not a 'living' document. You can't just twist it to meet your twisted needs.

[mvscal]

It's not a 'living' document.

I never said it was. I said the 13th amendment ended slavery in the United States. You say it didn't. It stands to reason that, if slavery has not been ended in the United States, I should be able to legally purchase a slave somewhere.

So again, where is it that you can purchase a slave here in the United States?

[Moving Sale]

It didn't end it it restricted it to certain situations, racist fucks like you going to home depot to get a slave is not one of the places that it was restricted to. Go it you cock licking dick closet?

[Mace]

It ended it with the exception that has been repeatedly noted in this thread.....for those incarcerated after conviction of a crime.

[mvscal]

It didn't end it it restricted it to certain situations,

There are no "certain situations" where slavery is permissible in this country. Not one "incarcerated criminal" has ever been sentenced to slavery for his crimes since the passage of the 13th amendment.

You're an idiot. We get it already.

[Moving Sale]

It ended it with the exception....

So it wasn't abolished. Gotcha.

There are no "certain situations" where slavery is permissible in this country.

The plain reading of the Constituiton says otherwise. In simple to read English. That must have been what tripped you up.

Not one "incarcerated criminal" has ever been sentenced to slavery for his crimes since the passage of the 13th amendment.

Do you buy strawmen in bulk to get the discount you dirty brown anal wart?

[Moving Sale]

Go ahead and show me where in the ‘nonliving’ Constitution it says that slavery was abolished you stupid inbreed Appalachian cock cushion.

[Mace]

Go ahead and show me where in the ‘nonliving’ Constitution it says that slavery was abolished you stupid inbreed Appalachian cock cushion.

It's been shown to you, and you choose to play games. Game over.

[poptart]

Don't the upstanding lawyers (I think there are some?) wish they could take snots like this guy and beat them until they shit their pants?

[Moving Sale]

Go ahead and show me where in the ‘nonliving’ Constitution it says that slavery was abolished you stupid inbreed Appalachian cock cushion.

It's been shown to you, and you choose to play games. Game over.

Slavery is not a game you flat headed jerkfuck. The plain meaning of the text is that there are exceptions to the rule that means that slavery was not abolished, it was restricted. Severely restricted yes, but restricted none the less. You out of all the people here should know what prisoners must do in prison and the consequences if they fuck up. Just because you were taught in grade school that slavery was abolished does not make it true.

Jeez you guys are blockheaded.

poptart,
What’s with the violent fantasies?

[Moving Sale]

Believe me. It happens a lot more often than snots like to admit.

You're funny. Delusional but funny.

[mvscal]

You out of all the people here should know what prisoners must do in prison and the consequences if they fuck up.

It's not slavery, you brainless, sperm belching fucktard.

[Mace]

Go ahead and show me where in the ‘nonliving’ Constitution it says that slavery was abolished you stupid inbreed Appalachian cock cushion.

It's been shown to you, and you choose to play games. Game over.

Slavery is not a game you flat headed jerkfuck. The plain meaning of the text is that there are exceptions to the rule that means that slavery was not abolished, it was restricted. Severely restricted yes, but restricted none the less. You out of all the people here should know what prisoners must do in prison and the consequences if they fuck up. Just because you were taught in grade school that slavery was abolished does not make it true.

Jeez you guys are blockheaded.

Prisoners have jobs in prison and get paid. They are not slaves....they're prisoners...convicted felons who lose many of their rights. Slavery is not a game, but you're trying, very unsuccessfully, to play a game here. If you were a doctor, they'd call you a quack.

[Moving Sale]

mvskkkal,
First of all- that, like all your other arguments, even IF it were true, is irrelevant. The text clearly says slavery is allowed whether or not it is practiced.
Second- slavery is, according to MW, "submission to a dominating influence" and having a person as chattel, which is exactly what happens in prison.
Third- you have never been right about anything ever on this board so how could it even be possible that you are right this time you dirty festering sore.

[Moving Sale]

Prisoners have jobs in prison and get paid. They are not slaves....they're prisoners...convicted felons who lose many of their rights. Slavery is not a game, but you're trying, very unsuccessfully, to play a game here. If you were a doctor, they'd call you a quack.

Some get paid some don't, but that doesn't change the fact that the text CLEARLY says there is an exception to the rule. Slavery is allowed whether it is practiced or not. That being said it is CLEARLY Involuntary Servitude because most of those cats would rather fuck around all day than get paid $15 a month.