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I say any D-1 scholly player should receive a 1,000 dollar a month living allowance. Sounds simple, but I believe it might help most players stay away from the dirty money. Considering the bank the U is getting off the players, scholarship in underwater basket weaving be damned, I think it's more than fair.
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H4ever wrote:I say any D-1 scholly player should receive a 1,000 dollar a month living allowance. Sounds simple, but I believe it might help most players stay away from the dirty money. Considering the bank the U is getting off the players, scholarship in underwater basket weaving be damned, I think it's more than fair.
The amount a player should get should be based on the cost of living in the area surrounding the school. Giving 2 players 1,000 a month each when rent for a 2 bedroom apartment next to the campus is 3000 a month isnt going to help much. and if a player has a kid or two, that 1,000 a month doesnt cover anything.
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BSmack wrote:Can we just accept that scholarship athletes are not and have never been amateurs (for starters, that free education is a payment) and let them make the best deals they can for themselves and their families the same way that any academic scholarship recipient is already allowed to do?
Are you still going to call it "intercollegiate athletics?" lol


Oh well, what you suggest would be better than what we see now, which is a TOTAL competetive farce - and not taken seriously by anyone not categorized as IODIT.
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BSmack wrote:Can we just accept that scholarship athletes are not and have never been amateurs (for starters, that free education is a payment) and let them make the best deals they can for themselves and their families the same way that any academic scholarship recipient is already allowed to do?
Are you still going to call it "intercollegiate athletics?" lol
Why not? It still is one group of college employees playing another. Same as it is now. The only difference would be the freedom of the players to make their own money.
Oh well, what you suggest would be better than what we see now, which is a TOTAL competetive farce - and not taken seriously by anyone not categorized as IODIT.
I couldn't agree more. CFB can be very entertaining to watch. The NFL could learn a thing or two from the college game in terms of the pace and flow of the game. But as far as taking the polls or the MNC seriously? Fuck that. I could care less who wins because they do not crown a champion ON THE FIELD.
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Sudden Sam wrote:I'm hoping there's nothing to this (been investigated since July, so must not be) and that Cam and Auburn are as clean as a whistle.

There'd be nothing worse than Cam being suspended when the Tide plays AU. I'd rather play them full-strength and lose than to beat a Cam-less Tiger team.
This, both need to be at full-strength for this showdown.





That and my fantasy-team is hosed without Cam Newton carrying the load.
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Sudden Sam wrote:I'd rather play them full-strength and lose than to beat a Cam-less Tiger team.
It's beginning to look a lot like Christmas...
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so thats the QB play a school gets when they pay 200k for a recruit to go there.
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Here's a story of why Newton left Florida. Athletes cheating in their classes is not really news but the stupidity meter for this guy is going off the charts.
Auburn quarterback Cameron Newton had three different instances of academic cheating while attending the University of Florida and faced potential expulsion from the university, according to a source.

Newton, considered the front-runner for the Heisman Trophy, attended Florida in 2007 and 2008 before transferring to Blinn College, a junior college in Texas. He first violated Florida’s student honor code by cheating in a class during his freshman year, according to the source.

Newton was arrested for the theft of a laptop from a Florida student’s dorm room in November 2008. He again violated the university’s honor code by putting his name on another student’s paper and turning it in, according to the source. Newton was caught after the instructor asked the real author of the paper why he had not turned in his work, the source said.

According to the source, after the student said he had turned in a paper, he and the instructor went through all the submissions and discovered that Newton had put his name on the paper in question.

Newton subsequently turned in a second paper to the instructor, but it was later found to have been purchased off the Internet, according to the source. The source said Newton was to appear for a hearing in front of Florida’s Student Conduct Committee during the spring semester of 2009, but instead transferred to Blinn College.

The committee could have levied sanctions against Newton that included suspension and expulsion from the university.

“He knew that he was facing a bad outcome,” the source said.

Auburn officials did not return telephone messages, text messages or e-mails as of late Monday. His father, Cecil Newton Sr., declined to comment on his son’s academic past.

“I wasn’t there,” the elder Newton said. “I cannot confirm or deny. At a time like this, I’m taking a defensive posture.



Last month, Newton, and his father, a pastor, told Sports Illustrated that the younger Newton decided to transfer from Florida in early January 2009 when Tim Tebow opted to remain for his senior year, a move that would have forced Newton into back-up status for another season.

Newton, however, wasn’t even enrolled at Florida for the spring semester of 2009 when he decided to transfer, according to the source.

The revelations of Newton’s academic cheating come less than a week after ESPN.com reported that a man named Kenny Rogers claimed to represent Newton and allegedly sought $180,000 for him to attend Mississippi State. Rogers allegedly told former Mississippi State quarterback John Bond that other schools had already offered $200,000.

The NCAA is investigating that matter. The Newtons and Rogers have denied the allegations.

Auburn has said Newton is eligible, and Auburn Athletic Director Jay Jacobs told USA Today that the school has not found any issues with Newton’s eligibility since starting to look in to it this past summer. But he also said that it’s “not a closed matter” and that the review is “still ongoing.”

The dual threat transferred from Blinn College to Auburn in January and has led the Tigers to a 10-0 record and No. 2 rating in the Bowl Championship Series standings. Newton has thrown for 1,890 yards and 19 touchdowns, while also leading the SEC in rushing with 1,146 yards and 15 touchdowns.
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Mace wrote:but the stupidity meter for this guy is going off the charts.
Well yeah, he did end up at Auburn.
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Screw_Michigan wrote:
Mace wrote:but the stupidity meter for this guy is going off the charts.
Well yeah, he did end up at Auburn.
And no doubt will be a straight A student.
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One thing that's been bothering me though, is finding out if Newton had to refund his signing bonus when he left Florida.
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The only part of this story that surprises me is I figured the SEC had paid "tutors" to do their work for them. Somebody wasn't doing their job.
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$180,000 AND a tutor?

You gotta draw the line somewhere.
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Mikey wrote:
Screw_Michigan wrote:
Mace wrote:but the stupidity meter for this guy is going off the charts.
Well yeah, he did end up at Auburn.
And no doubt will be a straight A student.
Only in English or are all the departments on board now?

Newton took 180k to go to allbarn, a school paying for a recruit is far worse than the agents paying students who are already at schools, auburn deserves the death penalty for this and whats sad is that by the time the school really pays for newton, he will have left it for the league and will be making it rain in strip clubs filled with black strippers.
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SoCalTrjn wrote:[Newton took 180k to go to allbarn, a school paying for a recruit is far worse than the agents paying students who are already at schools, auburn deserves the death penalty for this and whats sad is that by the time the school really pays for newton, he will have left it for the league and will be making it rain in strip clubs filled with black strippers.
IF Newton took $180k. He and Auburn haven't been found guilty of anything yet....unlike your cheatin' fuckin' Trojans.
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Nobody at USC paid any recruits to come to school there.
If you cant see the difference in a schools responsibilty between a school itsself paying a player to go there or an agent paying a player already at the school to sign with that agent after he leaves the school, then there is no help for stupid like you


auburn paid for this guy to go there, their football program deserves the death sentence or at least 5 times what USC got
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SoCalTrjn wrote:Nobody at USC paid any recruits to come to school there.
If you cant see the difference in a schools responsibilty between a school itsself paying a player to go there or an agent paying a player already at the school to sign with that agent after he leaves the school, then there is no help for stupid like you


auburn paid for this guy to go there, their football program deserves the death sentence or at least 5 times what USC got
No one has proven that Auburn has violated any rules at this point in time, dumbfuck, unlike USC, who has been charged, tried, convicted, and sentenced. It doesn't sound good for Newton or Auburn, but I'd prefer to wait for all the facts to come in before hanging them by the nearest tree. I didn't say that USC was guilty of the same thing Auburn might be accused of doing, you ignorant cunt, or even compare the violations you allege by Auburn to the violations of USC for which they've already been sanctioned.
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Breaking news on ESPN

Sources: Cam Newton and father admitted in phone conversations that money would determine college choice

Joe Schad said that the SEC had this information as far back as January. Apparently, Cam Newton's father made the decision to go to Auburn and that it was because the money was too much.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=5786315
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IF
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auburn paid for this guy to go there
THEN
SoCalTrjn wrote:their football program deserves the death sentence

AUBURN UNIVERSITY VARISTY FOOTBALL, IT IS HEREBY ORDERED that on such scheduled date, you shall be put to DEATH, by a current of electricity sufficient to cause your immediete death, and such current shall continue to pass through your program until you are DEAD

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the FBI is getting involved now.
http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.co ... situation/

auburn and the newtons are about to be proper fucked.


dont worry, Im sure that when ESPN and CBS report on all the agents sniffing around and paying college players and their families, it will be Reggie Bushs picture they have behind them as the poster boy and SC will be to blame for all of it.
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Q, West Coast Style wrote:IF
SoCalTrjn wrote:
auburn paid for this guy to go there
THEN
SoCalTrjn wrote:their football program deserves the death sentence

AUBURN UNIVERSITY VARISTY FOOTBALL, IT IS HEREBY ORDERED that on such scheduled date, you shall be put to DEATH, by a current of electricity sufficient to cause your immediete death, and such current shall continue to pass through your program until you are DEAD

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Sudden Sam wrote:Dammit! Only 4 SEC teams in the rankings!

The PAC is well represented... and to keep the 50/50 balance, Colorado comes on board.
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Looks like the Big 12 is a dominant force in the rankings. Props to them, I guess.
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That ranking is what has me convinced Auburn has checked this out three times over.

it's kinda like "I can't afford to cheat on my wife anymore!"
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Papa Willie wrote:Well - one good thing so far:

This is his primary source of transportation around the campus.
I wonder who bought that thing for him, or whether it came out of the $180,000.
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I wonder if the 2 hundred thousand dollars that was given to the newtons to get cam to go to auburn came from the secs large TV contract?
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Papa Willie wrote: Relax - I don't think Cam's family has purchased a house like Reggie's did - not yet, anyway. :D
Nah, but he got that cool scooter. And dad's prolly driving a new Escalade.
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Mikey wrote:
Papa Willie wrote: Relax - I don't think Cam's family has purchased a house like Reggie's did - not yet, anyway. :D
Nah, but he got that cool scooter. And dad's prolly driving a new Escalade.
purchase anything? hell Reggies family was just squatting, funny how people think that living in a house for 8 months is owning it
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So now you're telling us we're not supposed to pay these people for their services? We're confused.

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Papa Willie wrote:
Mikey wrote:
Papa Willie wrote: Relax - I don't think Cam's family has purchased a house like Reggie's did - not yet, anyway. :D
Nah, but he got that cool scooter. And dad's prolly driving a new Escalade.
They said he bought the scooter used for $450. :P
From a guy who paid $3500 for it the day before?

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Vegas has taken the Auburn/UGA game off the boards and ESPN Radio is saying that Newton will be suspended before the weekend. Whoopsie Auburn, time for all your other players to transfer
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Believe the Heupel wrote:Man, that's crazy that ESPN Radio would report something like that and it's not on ESPN.com at all. Or that you can still find Auburn for -8.5 on every site I just looked at. You'd think that they'd be more on the ball.
if he were that ahead of the news you'd think he'd have told kiffykins to stick it out in tennessee, eh.
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I see where many of you have picked Auburn in the weekly contest.

Thanks for the moral support.

I also hear the line is now 9.5. 8)
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