Does this resemble your work environment?

[War Wagon]

http://www.dilbert.com/strips/comic/2010-11-11/

Sad to say that it does mine these days. In 27 years at my company, I've never seen so much CYA as the past 6 months.

I don't like it. Told this new guy whom I now supposedly report to that it literally feels like I'm working in a Dilbert cartoon. He failed to see the humor.

[BSmack]

Sad to say many american companies, especially the publically traded ones, fit that description

The canucks I work for now, on the other hand, are so laid back it freaks me fucking out.
They hate politics, backstabbing or tossing people under the bus - it's an all for one attitude - totally socialist :D
I've been offered two other, higher profile jobs in the last year and turned them both down out of loyalty to these guys

That's how I used to feel working for Japs. It changed. But hey, ride it while its good.

[BSmack]

That's how I used to feel working for Japs. It changed.

At least you didn't become a racist or anything.

Did I ruffle your panties?

[Wolfman]

Easy 88--- they hate being called out for what they deep down inside really are.

[Screw_Michigan]

Easy 88--- they hate being called out for what they deep down inside really are.

Who? The Japs?

[ucantdoitdoggieSTyle2]

I work from home whenever I want (assuming my calendar actually allows for it.) There's beer/wine in every fridge. If you're working after 6 p.m. (5 p.m. on Fridays) no one gives a shit if you drink. During this so-called recession, my company has doubled in size. Most of my co-workers have advanced degrees and none of us punch a time card. Oddly, no one works less than 50 hours/week. I am not feeling your pain. It is a public company, btw.

This much I know... if one of my employees makes a (big) mistake, it's because I didn't teach him/her well enough.

[Cuda]

Easy 88--- they hate being called out for what they deep down inside really are.

Who? The Japs?

the Canucks

[War Wagon]

During this so-called recession, my company has doubled in size.

Doing what, exactly?

Foreclosures?

Or a company that swindles homeowners out of their money promising to prevent foreclosure?

[Screw_Michigan]

During this so-called recession, my company has doubled in size.

Doing what, exactly?

Foreclosures?

Or a company that swindles homeowners out of their money promising to prevent foreclosure?

Whoa! Hold your fucking horses there, Whitey. Did you run that take through GOP leadership first?

[Go Coogs']

Or a company that swindles homeowners out of their money promising to prevent foreclosure?

When are homeowners going to start being accountable for themselves?

As for the job? I've been thrown under the bus by my direct boss while I was sitting there in front of him. We had a significant leak that set off multiple alarms. I took the lead on containing the leak, but before I did anything I radioed the control room and told them I was going under SCBA to isolate the leak with a backup person watching me. They transmitted back "10-4". I isolated the leak with extreme caution; nobody was hurt and all was back to normal.

One week later I'm sitting in a conference room with my supervisor, the Ops Supervisor, Ops Manager, Plant Manager, and Safety Manager while recounting my version of the story. They turned to my supervisor and asked him why he wasn't down there offering support. He said he didn't know anything about it until after we blocked the leak in and came back to the control room and told him what happened face to face. What a fucking asshole. They turned back to me and asked why I didn't call him directly to come down there and be incident commander on the leak. I just shook my head and told them I fucked up on the protocol and it wouldn't happen again. Truth is, my supervisor heard my transimission on the radio AND he is notifed of any gas leaks on his computer console in his office, so he knew what was going on, but he just didn't get off his fat ass to come out there and check on us because he knew I had the shit under control. But when they started asking him why he wasn't down there overseeing my actions on containing the leak, that motherfucker used me as a shield whilst running for the woods. I was pissed, but what could I do? Go up against my boss who could potentially make my job miserable as fuck? Nope. I just took my medicine and have moved on from this incident.

To answer your question, Wags, yeah, I know what its like to work in an environment that puts the employee on an island.

[Screw_Michigan]

When are homeowners going to start being accountable for themselves?.

And.........what does any of this have to do with your shitty employment status? Oh that's right, it doesn't.

Nice try, fucko.

[Screw_Michigan]

Modern America: Banks commuting perjury in court.

Rumps: But I get fucked at work all the time!

Sorry, bro.

[Go Coogs']

And.........what does any of this have to do with your shitty employment status? Oh that's right, it doesn't.

You're right, Screwey. It's really shitty with the six figure take home this year, 5% matching on my 401k, 100% medical coverage, subsidized life insurance plans for me and Mrs. Rumps, reimbursed health club membership dues, and employee stock purchase plans at a discounted price.

It's pure fucking hell working in such shit conditions I tell ya!

[OCmike]

In 27 years at my company, I've never seen so much CYA as the past 6 months.

Nope. In fact at our meeting this week, my boss made a point of saying, "I don't want you all to be afraid to take risks or feel like you have to run everything by me. If you make a mistake, I'll take care of the heat."

That said, he's a Palestinian* who vacations with his wife and kids in the Gaza Strip and he does have a temper. He could snap, yell "Allah Ackbar!!", and blow the shit out of the coffee machine at any time. Gotta take the bad with the good, I guess.




*No, mvscal, I'm not changing that to "Jordanian". Fuck off in advance.

[H4ever]

I work from home whenever I want (assuming my calendar actually allows for it.) There's beer/wine in every fridge. If you're working after 6 p.m. (5 p.m. on Fridays) no one gives a shit if you drink. During this so-called recession, my company has doubled in size. Most of my co-workers have advanced degrees and none of us punch a time card. Oddly, no one works less than 50 hours/week. I am not feeling your pain. It is a public company, btw.

This much I know... if one of my employees makes a (big) mistake, it's because I didn't teach him/her well enough.

Rack^^^^ I dated a girl about 8 years ago who worked for a small business networking or some shit firm that had that kind of leadership and support. I recall many times sitting around in the founder/CEO's office during weekly Friday meetings. Dude had a fully stocked wet bar and and liked that everyone had a couple, four during the meeting. What made the guy money is that he paid cabfare for every employee that had been drinking and needed a ride and also let them keep their vehicles overnight in the secured parking lot. Dude was big on Christmas bonuses and typically handed out at least 5k every year. That's the way it should be.

[Diego in Seattle]

I work from home whenever I want (assuming my calendar actually allows for it.) There's beer/wine in every fridge. If you're working after 6 p.m. (5 p.m. on Fridays) no one gives a shit if you drink. During this so-called recession, my company has doubled in size. Most of my co-workers have advanced degrees and none of us punch a time card. Oddly, no one works less than 50 hours/week. I am not feeling your pain. It is a public company, btw.

This much I know... if one of my employees makes a (big) mistake, it's because I didn't teach him/her well enough.

Rack^^^^ I dated a girl about 8 years ago who worked for a small business networking or some shit firm that had that kind of leadership and support. I recall many times sitting around in the founder/CEO's office during weekly Friday meetings. Dude had a fully stocked wet bar and and liked that everyone had a couple, four during the meeting. What made the guy money is that he paid cabfare for every employee that had been drinking and needed a ride and also let them keep their vehicles overnight in the secured parking lot. Dude was big on Christmas bonuses and typically handed out at least 5k every year. That's the way it should be.

!) I bet the turnover rate was miniscule....it amazes me how few companies pick up on that concept.

2) I bet there's no union there because the employees don't feel a need (again...amazing how few companies pick up on that concept).

[Screw_Michigan]

[You're right, Screwey. It's really shitty with the six figure take home this year, 5% matching on my 401k, 100% medical coverage, subsidized life insurance plans for me and Mrs. Rumps, reimbursed health club membership dues, and employee stock purchase plans at a discounted price.

"Whooptie-damn-doo."


I get all the same shit, without the six-figure salary. I'm still wondering how you getting thrown under the bus at work has anything to do with banks committing perjury in court.

[Screw_Michigan]

!) I bet the turnover rate was miniscule....it amazes me how few companies pick up on that concept.

2) I bet there's no union there because the employees don't feel a need (again...amazing how few companies pick up on that concept).

It's easier to cheap out and call the unions commie sympathizers.

[mvscal]

That said, he's a Palestinian* who vacations with his wife and kids in the Gaza Strip and he does have a temper. *No, mvscal, I'm not changing that to "Jordanian". Fuck off in advance.

You shouldn't. He's an Egyptian, idiot. Just like Yasser Arafat.

The Gaza Strip was taken from Egypt and the West Bank from Jordan. It's pretty fucking easy. There is/was no such country as Palestine.

[OCmike]

That said, he's a Palestinian* who vacations with his wife and kids in the Gaza Strip and he does have a temper. *No, mvscal, I'm not changing that to "Jordanian". Fuck off in advance.

You shouldn't. He's an Egyptian, idiot. Just like Yasser Arafat.

The Gaza Strip was taken from Egypt and the West Bank from Jordan. It's pretty fucking easy. There is/was no such country as Palestine.

Fuck.

[Goober McTuber]

subsidized life insurance plans for me and Mrs. Rumps, reimbursed health club membership dues

Not much of a benefit if you don't use it.

[Dinsdale]

I'm still wondering how you getting thrown under the bus at work has anything to do with banks committing perjury in court.

I'm still wondering what any representative of any bank says in court has to do with anyone being stupid enough to enter into a 6-figure, legally binding contract that has a provision that allows one of the parties to change the terms of the contract without any discussion or recourse.

There's actually a name for that kind of person -- "uneducated, ignorant dumbfuck." They also occasionally are known as "homeless."

[Go Coogs']

What Dins said.

If the housing market crashed here like it did in other parts of the US, then I wouldn't be turning to the government with my hand out begging for money because the banks fucked me over.

Sub-prime morgages, bad leveraging, overextending, or whatever you want to blame the banks on....I don't see enough blame being put on Jane and John Housebuyer who had a combined income of $65,000/year and signed their name on the dotted line for a 100% FHA loan worth $250,000.

It's called living within your means, Screwey.

[Screw_Michigan]

Sub-prime morgages, bad leveraging, overextending, or whatever you want to blame the banks on....I don't see enough blame being put on Jane and John Housebuyer who had a combined income of $65,000/year and signed their name on the dotted line for a 100% FHA loan worth $250,000.

It's called living within your means, Screwey.

Credit is a two-way street, you fucking moron. Banks aren't just giant money trees with IOUs that say "please, help yourself, but only take enough that you can promise to pay back." The banks have been the biggest welfare queens in this whole debacle. They securitize mortgages but in their epic greed fail to heed (or even give a shit) about 400 years of property law in America. "Yeah, we can't prove we own the mortgage, but these people are fucking deadbeats, so we're gonna take the house anyway." And the greatest "Yeah, we're gonna lie under oath and we should be able to get away with it because, you know, these people are deadbeats."

Fuck you and your ilk, Rumps.

[Go Coogs']

I'm not solely blaming the buyers here, Screwey. I'm just saying not enough blame is being put on the homeowner. If something sounds too good to be true, then it probably is.

[mvscal]

legally binding contract

What contract? It's kinda difficult to enforce a "legally binding contract" if you are unable to produce that legally binding contract in court.

[H4ever]

legally binding contract

What contract? It's kinda difficult to enforce a "legally binding contract" if you are unable to produce that legally binding contract in court.

^^^^ I'm thinking you mean how those shitty mortgages got shuffled around, resold, or otherwise passed on and now when the peron about to be foreclosed on says, "show me the original contract" nobody bothered to keep track of it in that huge papertrail nightmare?

I've heard about that. Seems these people are living rent/mortgage free for months if not years while overpaid execs get pulled out of starbucks and off the golfcourse and are told to "find that fucking contract!"

[H4ever]

I'm not solely blaming the buyers here, Screwey. I'm just saying not enough blame is being put on the homeowner. If something sounds too good to be true, then it probably is.

You'd think the majority of the burden would be on the guy handing out the money wouldn't ya?

"Some fucking bum told me if I lent him 5 bucks he would give me 10 back next week and now that fucker don't have no money!" "The lying bum!....I want my profits!.....waaaaah!.....the gubmint better give me my money!.....waaaaahhhh!....I wanna go to Cabo!......waaaaaah!"


Let's feel sorry for the tard who gave the bum a loan. Poor feller!

[War Wagon]

opened a can of worms here, I did.

[Derron]

.I don't see enough blame being put on Jane and John Housebuyer who had a combined income of $65,000/year and signed their name on the dotted line for a 100% FHA loan worth $250,000.

It's called living within your means, Screwey.

Ahh...I am not a real estate or mortgage honk here but it seems that based upon the past lending parameters even at 100% that a combined income of 65K and a 250K mortgage at 5% over 30 years would put the payment about $ 1,344 per month which is a couple of hundred bucks under the past 28% of income parameter used. Seems like they should be able to do that IF they did not have a lot of other debt like excessive car payments and CC debt and good FICO ...but most people do not understand that concept, so I guess it is flawed logic.

[mvscal]

legally binding contract

What contract? It's kinda difficult to enforce a "legally binding contract" if you are unable to produce that legally binding contract in court.

^^^^ I'm thinking you mean how those shitty mortgages got shuffled around, resold, or otherwise passed on and now when the peron about to be foreclosed on says, "show me the original contract" nobody bothered to keep track of it in that huge papertrail nightmare?

Oh, it's a slimy piece of fucking business. Look for Congress to cornhole the taxpayer once again not to mention the rule of law. Bottom line summary is that we are going to see Congress attempt to quietly cheese an ex post facto law into effect which will legitimize fraud and perjury. This is straight up banana republic thuggery.

It starts with these fucks:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MERS

Here's some more background.

http://www.cnbc.com/id/40150186

"At the Root of the Crisis We Find the Largest Financial Swindle in World History", Where "Counterfeit" Mortgages Were "Laundered" by the Banks

http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2010/10/ ... rgest.html

[BSmack]

The bottom line is that people, whether or not the bank can find their note, are still in default. They should not be able to walk away from that mistake Scot-free because of a clerical error.

I had a choice 4 years ago as to how big a house I wanted. I chose to buy a house for 70% of what the bank would approve me for because that was the amount I felt like I could afford should my income be cut in half. I remember Bushice in particular mocking my "undersized" house selection. Now I am going back to college and am in no danger of losing my house whatsoever, even though I have been unemployed for over a year. Should the job market be shitty when I stop going full time after next semester, I will be able to make my mortgage payments on a salary as low as 10 dollars an hour.

It's really not hard folks. Banks are not approving you for those loans because they love you. You need to look at your own finances with an eye towards protecting the interests of you and your family should the WORST happen, not the best. If I had taken out the max mortgage the bank was willing to give me, I would be fucked. And if I had chosen to get more money by going the subprime route, I would have lost my house already.

So once again, fuck you Bushice wherever you are.

[Diego in Seattle]

They should not be able to walk away from that mistake Scot-free because of a clerical error.

Go fuck yourself!!

Sin,

[Screw_Michigan]

Should the job market be shitty when I stop going full time after next semester, I will be able to make my mortgage payments on a salary as low as 10 dollars an hour.

That's because you live in Crapchester.

[BSmack]

Should the job market be shitty when I stop going full time after next semester, I will be able to make my mortgage payments on a salary as low as 10 dollars an hour.

That's because you live in Crapchester.

Your are right. And the problem with being able to afford my abode in even the worst economic crisis is what? I have a wife and a child to think about besides myself.

Oh, and another thing about Rochester. Since we never had a real estate bubble, there was no corresponding real estate crash. Home values have stayed constant throughout. So my house is not even close to underwater.

[Shlomart Ben Yisrael]

I have a wife and a child to think about besides myself.

Seriously, is your child-bride even old enough to vote yet?

[BSmack]

I have a wife and a child to think about besides myself.

Seriously, is your child-bride even old enough to vote yet?

Give me some credit Marty. I roll like Sir Mix-a-Lot in that I like my women to look like women.

[Go Coogs']

The bottom line is that people, whether or not the bank can find their note, are still in default. They should not be able to walk away from that mistake Scot-free because of a clerical error.

I had a choice 4 years ago as to how big a house I wanted. I chose to buy a house for 70% of what the bank would approve me for because that was the amount I felt like I could afford should my income be cut in half. I remember Bushice in particular mocking my "undersized" house selection. Now I am going back to college and am in no danger of losing my house whatsoever, even though I have been unemployed for over a year. Should the job market be shitty when I stop going full time after next semester, I will be able to make my mortgage payments on a salary as low as 10 dollars an hour.

It's really not hard folks. Banks are not approving you for those loans because they love you. You need to look at your own finances with an eye towards protecting the interests of you and your family should the WORST happen, not the best. If I had taken out the max mortgage the bank was willing to give me, I would be fucked. And if I had chosen to get more money by going the subprime route, I would have lost my house already.

So once again, fuck you Bushice wherever you are.

Spoken like a true republican.

[BSmack]

Spoken like a true republican.

Bullshit. If you think fiscal or personal responsibility is the property of any political party, you're obviously quite deranged.

[Go Coogs']

No. You taking full responsibility for your financial shortfalls and suggesting everyone else to do the same is a far cry from most unemployed libtards who are looking for the government to develop a program to bail them out.