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Jewel Hampton has had one seriously fucked up college career. Not one, but TWO season ending injuries, and now on the verge of getting booted from the team. Jeezis.
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What a bunch of fucking jonsense. :roll: You need to make up your mind if you'll be happy with a 6-6 record with good kids playing the game and kicking the criminals off the team...or only suspending them for the Insight Bowl so it won't hurt the program. Which is it that you want?

As for the team's performance, and your oh so astute observations regarding their "talent".....we know for a fact that DJK was using drugs and that he was one of the best, if not the very best, performer every Saturday, so was he keeping the good coke for himself and giving/selling some bad shit to his teammates? Maybe he should have supplied the good stuff to everyone so they could elevate their performance on the field.
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MgoBlue-LightSpecial wrote:Jewel Hampton has had one seriously fucked up college career. Not one, but TWO season ending injuries, and now on the verge of getting booted from the team. Jeezis.
He also got arrested this past offseason for, i believe, public intox.
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You need to make up your mind if you'll be happy with a 6-6 record with good kids playing the game and kicking the criminals off the team...or only suspending them for the Insight Bowl so it won't hurt the program.
Actually, I just want a coach that will stop recruiting thugs and embarrassing my alma mater.

I was just saying that the team is going to suck big time if all these players are booted. I didn't say anything about my preference as to what I would like to see happen to them.
we know for a fact that DJK was using drugs and that he was one of the best, if not the very best, performer every Saturday, so was he keeping the good coke for himself and giving/selling some bad shit to his teammates?
What's your point? Some people could shoot up on heroin and rush for 1,500 yards. Some players might rush for 1,500 yards off of drugs and 800 yards on drugs. I know people that were smart and started using drugs, then turned into complete wastes of space. I know people that were smart and started using drugs and ended up being successful business owners- while on drugs.

Regardless of how you play, if you have a lockerroom full of junkies, you can rest assured the team chemistry will be lacking.

What happened to our defense from last year? Yes, losing Edds and Angerer were a big part of it. But what really killed us was a defensive line that got tons of pressure last year and returned all 4 starters, and not 1 of them got ANY pressure on the QB the entire season. Now, reports are coming out that 2 of them may have tested positive for drug use.

Prater all of a sudden forgot how to cover a receiver after having a very solid sophomore year last year. Even Jeremiha Hunter was just kinda average this year.

Clayborn says after the Wisconsin game that guys aren't practicing hard. Something went on. I've known this all year, I just didn't know exactly what the heck was going on. At first I wondered if it was Norm not being with the team, but I don't think that's the case. I believe the melting down in the clutch by our defense had a lot to do with whatever the fuck was going on off the field. The reason I say that is because I saw players that busted their fucking balls the last couple of years just stand around and take it up the ass like they were some skank off the street corner. Sash was a mother fucking playmaker in 2008 and 2009. In 2010 he didn't make 1 god damn play (Save for the TD against MSU). He was NEVER around the ball. What the fuck? This is a guy that was ALWAYS cleaning up on a missed tackle from the front 7 or forcing a ball carrier to cut back inside because he had outside contain. Not this year.

Clayborn didn't make a play all year. He was dominant last year and the previous 2. Ballard.........was he even on the fucking team? I know he started every game, but man.......what the hell happened to him?

It was so bad that Karl Klug was named team defensive player of the year at the awards banquet. The sad thing is I can't really dispute it even though he didn't make a god damn play all year either. A defense full of playmakers, and not a single one of them made a play all season. If we were talking about some highly recruited athletes that had never played a down in college football and we expected a lot out of them, it would be different. But we're talking about PROVEN playmakers and not a single one of them would step up and make a play in the 6 opportunities they had to make a clutch stop this year. The worst defense in the history of college football wouldn't fail in the clutch as miserably as our defense did this year.

Another guy that puzzles me is Binns. He was never a real playmaker, but he was the smartest player out on the field the last couple of years. He just didn't make mistakes. Never biting on a play-fake, recognizing a screen, etc.... There were so many times he didn't make a tackle but was the reason someone else did. He would also tip a lot of passes at the line of scrimmage. Not in 2010........he didn't do shit. He just stood there and got owned. No tipped balls, no keeping contain, etc.... His name has also been rumored in the drug scandal. Fantastic.

On offense, I really don't blame them. You're not going to consistently move the ball or score a lot of points with Ken O'keefe as your coordinator despite the fact that this was the most talented and experienced offense we have ever had. The only way an O'Keefe offense will ever do anything is if he has one of the best offensive lines of the past 20 or so years (2002). You can call any play behind that offensive line in college given the defenses we faced that year and score 30 points. Any other year, it really doesn't matter.......he's a miserable failure and his playcalling boggles the mind of ANYONE that knows football. Not a god damn person alive (well, except for Mace) thinks he's worth a shit. It's why no d-1 school would ever hire him to be head coach. I laughed when I saw that moron tried to apply for the Indiana job. I know Indiana is a crappy program, but they're not THAT stupid.

Special teams is another area that we just aren't good at anymore and a lot of that has to do with desire. We don't have great character guys on the team that will go balls to the wall to fuck people up on kick coverage like we used to. 5 years ago, we were putting out some of the best kick/punt coverage units in the country because we had guys that wanted nothing more than to fuck people up. Most of them didn't have a lick of football talent. They just liked to run down the field at full speed and light somebody up. This team, would rather light SOMETHING up instead.
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http://thegazette.com/2010/12/13/hampto ... ight-bowl/

Well, it's official now........

Ferentz says Hampton is transferring and A-Rob is suspended for the Insight Bowl. This, just a few days after it was announced Brandon Wegher is officially transferring. That was our 1-2-3 combo prior to this season at RB.

Sounds like A-Rob got busted for smoking a little too much hippie lettuce.

The funny part about this is our only remaining RB available for the Insight Bowl is a guy with the last name of "Coker". Isn't it ironic?
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Here's the press release. Could have been worse news....of course there could be more to come too.

HAMPTON TO TRANSFER…ROBINSON TO MISS BOWL GAME

IOWA CITY, IA – Sophomore running back Jewel Hampton has decided to leave the University of Iowa. And, sophomore running back Adam Robinson will not be part of the Hawkeye team that makes the trip to Arizona for the Insight Bowl. The announcement was made today by Head Football Coach Kirk Ferentz.

“Jewel Hampton has decided to leave the team and plans to transfer to another school to complete his degree and finish his career. We wish him the best of success in the future,” said Ferentz.

“While Adam has been cleared medically, he will not be participating in the upcoming Insight Bowl game as a result of failing to comply with team expectations and policies. Adam will have the option to rejoin the team when classes resume in January.”

Hampton, a 5-9, 210-pounder from Indianapolis, IN, has been plagued by injury problems during his three years at Iowa. He has rushed for 577 yards and scored eight touchdowns as a Hawkeye. He was injured in the Arizona game earlier this season and was lost for the season following surgery.

Robinson, a 5-9, 205-pound back from Des Moines, IA, led the team in rushing with 941 yards and 10 touchdowns on the ground.
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The new rumor is that Ferentz is going to step down.

I don't buy it, but then again........looks like all the other rumors swirling around Iowa City the past week have ended up true.

Why would Ferentz step away from millions of dollars over a few potheads? Just doesn't make sense to me, and that's why I don't believe this rumor to be true.
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TheJON wrote:The new rumor is that Ferentz is going to step down.

I don't buy it, but then again........looks like all the other rumors swirling around Iowa City the past week have ended up true.

Why would Ferentz step away from millions of dollars over a few potheads? Just doesn't make sense to me, and that's why I don't believe this rumor to be true.
Hadn't heard that one yet but I'm sure he feels betrayed by some of his players and is undoubtedly embarrassed that this mess happened on his watch. I doubt that he would leave over this, but who knows?

I heard that Robinson left practice the other day and hasn't returned, and that he also got into a fight with Clayborn.
Your comments about team chemistry are probably spot on. Iowa has a divided house...those who want to play football and those who want the nose candy.
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I heard that Robinson left practice the other day and hasn't returned, and that he also got into a fight with Clayborn.
That wouldn't surprise me. Clayborn seemed like he was betrayed by his teammates this year. Comments he made in his postgame interviews led me to believe he felt let down because he came back to compete for a national title when he could have taken millions of dollars from the NFL after last year.

No way is Ferentz stepping down. I can understand feeling betrayed by his players, but he's got a $3.25 million contract GUARANTEED through 2020. That's about $30 million he would be leaving on the table if he just walked away. Not a chance.

Chad Greenway said that he expects a shakeup in the coaching staff after the season. I heard that on the radio the other day from some Vikings reporter. He was on Matt and Miller and said that's what Chad told him, but he didn't push him to see what coaches he was talking about.
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TheJON wrote:
I heard that Robinson left practice the other day and hasn't returned, and that he also got into a fight with Clayborn.
That wouldn't surprise me. Clayborn seemed like he was betrayed by his teammates this year. Comments he made in his postgame interviews led me to believe he felt let down because he came back to compete for a national title when he could have taken millions of dollars from the NFL after last year.

No way is Ferentz stepping down. I can understand feeling betrayed by his players, but he's got a $3.25 million contract GUARANTEED through 2020. That's about $30 million he would be leaving on the table if he just walked away. Not a chance.

Chad Greenway said that he expects a shakeup in the coaching staff after the season. I heard that on the radio the other day from some Vikings reporter. He was on Matt and Miller and said that's what Chad told him, but he didn't push him to see what coaches he was talking about.
A lot of Iowa fans will be disappointed if it's not O'Keefe, but I suspect that, due to his medical problems, Norm Parker will be stepping down.
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If Norm comes back next year, that guy is one tough son of a bitch!

It's almost too bad McCarney took the North Texas job, because if Norm does retire, he would have been a great fit for defensive coordinator. Mark Stoops would be an even better hire, if we can lure him back home away from FSU. We could use his recruiting ties.

If it is O'Keefe, I would like to bring back Chuck Long because of his recruiting ties.

Who knows.......maybe nothing will come of this. Maybe Greenway meant that some coaches on the staff will shift positions- something like Phil Parker taking over as defensive coordinator permanently while Norm takes on less responsibility.

Whatever they do, I just hope everything comes out soon.
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I don't know if Mark Stoops is looking for another DC job, and would guess that he's looking for a HC job sometime soon. A chance to return to Iowa might be an attraction for him, but I don't know. Haven't talked to him since he left Iowa, so I don't know what he's thinking.
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Mace wrote:I don't know if Mark Stoops is looking for another DC job, and would guess that he's looking for a HC job sometime soon. A chance to return to Iowa might be an attraction for him, but I don't know. Haven't talked to him since he left Iowa, so I don't know what he's thinking.
He's very similar to Mike- his personality. ESPN Classic was showing the 1998 K-State/Purdue Alamo Bowl the other day and I saw Mike in the booth acting like a complete fool just like he does on the sidelines at Arizona. The difference was he was in the booth, and I thought he was going to out the window! That's an interesting family!
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Press conference set for 10 am tomorrow. That is really weird. Why the need to hold a press conference after you already announced A-Rob is suspended and Hampton is gone? And why is Barta going to be there with Ferentz? If all this is about is to address the rumors or the A-Rob/Hampton/DJK ordeals, I'm fairly certain Kirk can handle that himself. What the heck does Barta have to do with this? I know he's the AD, but these are football related questions and I can't imagine anyone having anything to ask him.

Something has to be up. A transfer, another guy suspended for a meaningless bowl game, and a senior receiver booted off the team for his final game........not really sure why Barta needs to sit with Kirk at the press conference to address that.....unless something else is going on that we don't know about.
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Mace wrote:Here's the press release. Could have been worse news....of course there could be more to come too.

HAMPTON TO TRANSFER…ROBINSON TO MISS BOWL GAME

IOWA CITY, IA – Sophomore running back Jewel Hampton has decided to leave the University of Iowa. And, sophomore running back Adam Robinson will not be part of the Hawkeye team that makes the trip to Arizona for the Insight Bowl. The announcement was made today by Head Football Coach Kirk Ferentz.

“Jewel Hampton has decided to leave the team and plans to transfer to another school to complete his degree and finish his career. We wish him the best of success in the future,” said Ferentz.

“While Adam has been cleared medically, he will not be participating in the upcoming Insight Bowl game as a result of failing to comply with team expectations and policies. Adam will have the option to rejoin the team when classes resume in January.”

Hampton, a 5-9, 210-pounder from Indianapolis, IN, has been plagued by injury problems during his three years at Iowa. He has rushed for 577 yards and scored eight touchdowns as a Hawkeye. He was injured in the Arizona game earlier this season and was lost for the season following surgery.

Robinson, a 5-9, 205-pound back from Des Moines, IA, led the team in rushing with 941 yards and 10 touchdowns on the ground.
Their #1 running back recruit from Kenosha, Wisconsin is decomitting in order to replace John Clay.
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Goober McTuber wrote:
Their #1 running back recruit from Kenosha, Wisconsin is decomitting in order to replace John Clay.
Yep, that happened a week or two ago.
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Mace wrote:
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Their #1 running back recruit from Kenosha, Wisconsin is decomitting in order to replace John Clay.
Yep, that happened a week or two ago.
Yes, but it's still joyous news.
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Son of a bitch......

I get a phone call about 10 minutes prior to 10:00 and it's an important one and missed the presser.

I can barely read the shit that's being said on Hawkeyereport, but from what I gathered, the entire presser was a complete waste of time and nobody learned anything other than when someone with the anonymous screen name of something like "HawkDeezNutz69" starts a rumor, we should probably just ignore it.

Sounds like Kirk just addressed what he said in the press release yesterday and then quickly shot down any failed drug testing rumors.

Of course, I see Clown fans are going crazy with this claiming that Kirk is doing yet another cover-up (of course, just like his other alleged cover-ups, they have no facts). That is one jealous bunch of fans. Their penis envy of Iowa is quite disturbing.
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If there's anything to be learned from this ordeal, it's that you can't believe the bullshit that you read on a message board. Duh.

Barta and Ferentz went through the drug testing procedures and, although not saying that any other players tested positive, said that any dirty tests will be handled on a case by case basis and in accordance with the school's good conduct policy. It sounded like Robinson is suspended for academic reasons, not drug use.

The presser wasn't a waste of time, imo, as Ferentz needed to get out in front of this and get all of the rumors quashed. He did that. Sounds like Iowa will be heading to the bowl game with everyone but Hampton, Robinson, and DJK.

This whole thing was blown completely out of proportion by a bunch of internet morons who were jumping to conclusions and implicating players of drug use who apparently are clean, or at least being disciplined in-house without suspension...as it should be. Idiots clamoring for more information so that they can make their own judgments on the discipline have no right to drug testing information or academic standing due to confidentiality laws, unless the player is arrested. At that time, it becomes public record.
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The sad thing is the people reporting most of the rumors were actually Hawkeye fans. I saw so many people over on Hawkeyereport with thousands of lifetime posts that were saying they have "sources" that validate a certain rumor. Making shit up about your own team? Come on, that's unbelievable.
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TheJON wrote:The sad thing is the people reporting most of the rumors were actually Hawkeye fans. I saw so many people over on Hawkeyereport with thousands of lifetime posts that were saying they have "sources" that validate a certain rumor. Making shit up about your own team? Come on, that's unbelievable.
That's exactly what happened. DJK gets arrested and then the rumors start snowballing. I'm not saying that there weren't a few other players who tested positive for drugs but there should be no way that anyone should know unless there are leaks in the athletic department. If that's the case, they should find the leak and fire that person before the school gets sued for violating confidentiality. The rumors were getting ridiculous. Hell, you were even saying that you heard Ferentz was going to resign. I wonder what reliable source THAT came from?
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Actually, I had no sources for anything. Everything I posted in here was all rumors I read from various places on the internet.

I think a lot of the rumors were started by ISU fans. In fact, I'd almost guarantee it. You should read Cyclonefanatic. My goodness they are jealous of Iowa. They are claiming this is another Ferentz cover-up. Those idiots will never stop. It isn't Iowa's fault they will never be good in football. So why must they always take their anger out on us?
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TheJON wrote:Actually, I had no sources for anything. Everything I posted in here was all rumors I read from various places on the internet.

I think a lot of the rumors were started by ISU fans. In fact, I'd almost guarantee it. You should read Cyclonefanatic. My goodness they are jealous of Iowa. They are claiming this is another Ferentz cover-up. Those idiots will never stop. It isn't Iowa's fault they will never be good in football. So why must they always take their anger out on us?

Why are you on Cyclonefanatic? Must be penis envy?

By the way, did you guys hear Perrault and Rob Howe going at it on KXNO? Great listening. I recommend it. Perrault got owned.
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I like Cyclone Fanatic, actually. Never posted there, but that's actually one of the best message boards to read. I knew Chris Williams was going to go far in this business back when he was a finalist for Deace's little competition about 6-7 years ago. He's very talented.

Yeah, heard the Perrault deal. Funny shit.

Perrault: "That's it, I'm done. Cut him off"
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Perrault later: "We didn't cut him off"

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TheJON wrote:Actually, I had no sources for anything. Everything I posted in here was all rumors I read from various places on the internet.
That is exactly my point.
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Hahahahaha!

Perrault posted on Hawkeyenation that Howe text him "slurs" after the incident.

He text him "Fuck you pussy"!

I guess I don't really know a lot about Howe other than the times I've heard him on Jon Miller's old boring ass show on KXNO, but he's a good dude for putting Perrault in his place.

Perrault just tries to stir up the pot. He does it with Iowa and ISU. He is the owner of the Creighton Rivals.com site. He spent all of last year talking shit about McDermott, and then once he leaves ISU for Creighton it was a great hire. I have never heard Howe get confrontational with anyone about anything.

The whole argument started over Perrault saying that he doesn't believe Howe when he said that Stanzi and DJK don't hang out. I will take Howe's word because he is actually connected to the Iowa program. Perrault has no connections to anything but Creighton.

http://a1135.g.akamai.net/f/1135/18227/ ... %205pm.mp3

Listen from about the 3:00 mark until about 12:15. This is good fucking radio! Even if you don't give a shit about Iowa, it's pretty entertaining!
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Yeah, Matt Perrault is a shock jock who throws out rumor mill shit as fact just so he can get a reaction. Sound familiar, JON?
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I rarely do that, actually. This is different. It is a pseudo-private message board viewed by nobody but the posters of the board and maybe some of our wives/friends.

I never heard the John Walters/Matt Perrault pissing match from a few months back but I wonder how anyone could get into a yelling match with Walters. He's about the nicest guy you could ever meet. Sounds like Howe is too. Way to go Mr Perrault, you've effectively gotten into public verbal sparring matches with the 2 nicest people in Iowa!
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