Okay, Mizzou, here's the deal

[Truman]

...I suspect you are right about future OOC scheduling in the Big 12 (minus 2). now everybody plays OU, Texas, ATM, OSU, MU etc. every year. for former Northers, no more one or the other with OU and Texas. it's both.

i like losing the divisions and will love the return to home-homes in hoops w/KU and MU.

Can't wait, KC. You can run in this League, but you can't hide.

Shit the bed at Lloyd Noble? All is not lost. Always a shot at redemption when the Sooners come trotting into Columbia.

Football-wise, my only complaint is that I hate the thought of our conference finishing up by Thanksgiving weekend. God forbid if the NCAA were to relax the rule book and allow the schools to schedule a 13th game without having to go to Hawaii or Ireland to play it....

[Dinsdale]

Football-wise, my only complaint is that I hate the thought of our conference finishing up by Thanksgiving weekend. God forbid if the NCAA were to relax the rule book and allow the schools to schedule a 13th game without having to go to Hawaii or Ireland to play it....

The PAC countered that by taking bye-weeks, which gets (most) of the rivalries on Rivalry weekend.

The Civil War was 12/4, which was the same as most of the CCGs.

[Truman]

The Xii's kickin' a second bye around some too, Dins, and that's probably the route we'll go. Still, one bye per season is bad enough.

[Dinsdale]

The Xii's kickin' a second bye around some too, Dins, and that's probably the route we'll go. Still, one bye per season is bad enough.

Yes and no.

One extra week of CFB to watch is a plus.

Beats going the SEC route, and scheduling Weathervane Community College right before your big rivalry game -- just calling a spade a spade, and a bye a bye.

[Dinsdale]

In the PAC, in order to play an OOC game after conference play starts, you either have to get a waiver, or be playing Notre Dame (sometimes it requires two teams to work around ND, e.g. Oregon and UDub to start the season a couple of years ago).


Scheduling a cupcake during conference play is like adding an extra bye -- but no surprise to see the SEC doing something inherently cheesy and trying to get an unfair advantage.

[King Crimson]

since the various "rivalry weekends" are creations of the networks in the last decade anyway, would not be surprised to see whatever obstacles might stand in the way of a 2nd bye be "incentivized" into disappearing.

[Dinsdale]

since the various "rivalry weekends" are creations of the networks in the last decade anyway

I'll speak of the PAC:

They usually work it out where everyone plays their rival the same weekend.

Seems like it would be more beneficial to the networks to spread them out.

[King Crimson]

since the various "rivalry weekends" are creations of the networks in the last decade anyway

I'll speak of the PAC:

They usually work it out where everyone plays their rival the same weekend.

Seems like it would be more beneficial to the networks to spread them out.

huh. i may be speaking of the Big XII and universalizing. OU's "rivalry" weekend has traditionally been in the 2nd week of October for 100 years and then the last game of the year with NU in the Big 8....it was only with the Big XII perhaps that the conference and TV peeps started putting together things like OU-OSU on a specific date, or CU-NU replacing OU-NU day after Thanksgiving. Historically, there's been no special dispensation about the date OU and OSU play. used to fall all over the schedule with no apparent logic, certainly not TV logic....same with KU and KSU, KU-MU (I think)....only recently has all that been organized as a media event at the end of the season.

to me, "rivalry weekend" was a secondary hype term to create an "event" on a weekend that otherwise might not have a marquee game. for instance, OU and OSU instead of OU-NU or OU-UT...or to compensate for UT-ATM and CU-NU playing non-saturday games T-Giving week. maybe the Pac has a more traditional weekend where rivals square off. in the Big 8/XII it's mostly invented.

[Dinsdale]

Point taken, KC.

Being a PAC/Duck homer I guess I don't always notice these things -- Oregon and OS have finished the season against each other for over 100 years (maybe one or two exceptions).

I also understand the RRS used to be OOC, which makes the scheduling a little different.

[Truman]

Spot on, KC. With the exception of a handfull of occasions, Mizzou-Kansas has always been a late November tilt traditionally played the Saturday before Thanksgiving.

If memory serves, it seemed like that the Big 8 always reserved the weekend after Thanksgiving exclusively for its marquee Big Game: Oklahoma-Nebraska.

[Bizzarofelice]

seriously, dins. stop your whining.

Mizzou would be better served playing Arkansas. Now that would be a rivalry.

Would the same team winning 20 straight really make for much of a "rivalry"?

If you were implying that Arkansas would win 20 straight, the last time the two teams faced one another was 2008 cotton bowl during the vaunted darren mcfadden/ felix jones era at arkansas. Mizzou won 38-7.

Mizzou Arkansas won't establish a rivalry because all fans from St. Louis, KC and northern Missouri would not attend. the people in southern missouri and arkansas are like redneck tusken raiders. they sit on the side of the highway with rifles waiting for someone driving an import to drive by. anyone who stops to get gas becomes a meth slave.

[Dinsdale]

the people in southern missouri and arkansas are like redneck tusken raiders. they sit on the side of the highway with rifles waiting for someone driving an import to drive by. anyone who stops to get gas becomes a meth slave.

So it's just like Corvallis, with less topography?

[Truman]

No.

I’m of the opinion that not only is Bace a home-state haytah, he’s never been south Kirkwood.

There IS a kernel of truth when Bace suggests that every trailer home south of Joplin (which really is EVERY home) just isn’t quite complete without the Stars n’ Bars flying proudly from a pole strategically planted next to an up-on-blocks ’79 Camaro.

HOWEVER…

NorthArk is a whole ‘nother story.

Ninety miles of successive golf courses stretch from Bella Vista to Fayetteville, broken up only by the occasional run of knee-breaking Ozark mountains, float stream, or Wal-Mart SuperCenter.

If I’ve ever read you correctly, Dins, THIS is your kinda country… Um, albeit with bluehairs, hillbilly accents and humidity. No doubt you’d miss the Pacific Coast Redwoods and steelheads, but I have to think the rainbows, stripers, hickorys, hills, and world class golf would soon find you very much at home.

[Mace]

Several years ago, a group of us would make an annual trek to Springfield for a 3-4 day golf outing in late March or early April. We generally played an 18 hole course called, I think, Deer Run....possibly in Willard, and one time played another course out in the sticks. Don't remember the name of the course, just the Bermuda fairways that were still dormant. We also made a trip to Cherokee Village in Northern Arkansas one year. Great golf courses and totally different environment than we found in Springfield.....although Springfield allowed me to make my first visit to a Bass Pro Shop.

[Dinsdale]

Dins, THIS is your kinda country…

Probably not, but I'd love to make that an informed decision, rather than speculative.

No doubt you’d miss the Pacific Coast Redwoods

No redwoods this far north, gotta be inland, and south of the Willamette Valley. Got fir and cedars (pretty much the same as the redwoods) up the yingyang.

steelheads

Plural is "steelhead," which are anadromous (ocean-going, fresh water breeding)...

rainbows

Which are not native to Arkansas, or anywhere else east of the Rockies - BTW.

stripers

They get them on the Rogue, but they aren't native. Big suckers, too. Never fished them (to my embarrasment, I've never fished the Rogue, like Ernest HEmmingway, Zane Grey, Jack London, et al used to do so frequently).

hickorys

Never seen one, to the best of my knowledge. I'd be tempted to start hacking on the fuckers (you can take the Dinsdale out of Oregon, but you can't take the Oregon out of Dins -- we really dig cutting down trees, sometimes for sport) to feed the cooking fire.

hills

Tried to slip that one past me, did ya?


Seen a couple of hills before. Like, out the window right now and stuff.

and world class golf

You know the #1 ranked public golf course is on the Oregon Coast, right? (Sup Q)

And 3 of the top 10.


But they don't have it monopolized, either.

would soon find you very much at home.

I'm sure.

[Truman]

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hills

Tried to slip that one past me, did ya?

Seen a couple of hills before. Like, out the window right now and stuff.

Seein' 'em's one thing.



Hoofin' 'em's another.

Yes, these are what pass as "hills" in these parts.

No, the trout aren't necessarily native, but they fight like hell and I'd imagine you'd be hard-pressed to taste the difference after waving a mess of 'em a time-or-two over a cookfire. And that hickory you'd be looking to knock down would be sure to improve the efforts of your smoker ten-fold.

Not sayin' Arkansas would improve your circumstance... Just sayin' I could see you adapting to it if need be. But I could see where becoming an SECBSH might be a much bigger stretch. Soo Pig!

And speakin' of adaptation...

Saw a burg west of Portland on google maps labled Kansas City, Oregon. Care to enlighten us, Dins, or should we attribute the occasional IKYABWAI slip by you or Derron as a local phenomena?

[Dinsdale]

Saw a burg west of Portland on google maps labled Kansas City, Oregon. Care to enlighten us, Dins, or should we attribute the occasional IKYABWAI slip by you or Derron as a local phenomena?

Hehehehe... Derron doesn't live all that terribly far from there.


To be frank, I've never heard of Kansas City, OR before.

But no, it's worse -- it's in the county I've lived damn-near my entire life in.

But no, it's worse -- I've driven by it literally hundreds of times. Didn't realize they called some little redneck neighborhood in the sticks KCNW.

Make no mistake, it's not a city, not a town, not incorporated, no stores or businesses, and a population of maybe 50.

But still, I didn't know they called it that.

[MiketheangrydrunkenCUfan]

So are any of you Iowa or Mizzou peeps making the trip for this game? I'll be at the game, so shoot me a PM if you want to exchange phone numbers and try to meet up for a beer or something.

[Mace]

Thanks for the invite, but I'm not making the trip. For your sake, I hope JON isn't traveling either. :) Maybe there will be some Tiger fans take you up on your offer. Hope you see a good game and a Hawkeye victory.

[TheJON]

Hope you see a good game and a Hawkeye victory.

I will be satisfied with just the latter.

I wish I could go! I hate when I have to miss bowl games. If I miss a classic game, I will ground my kid his entire high school career because he is the reason I have to miss the game!!