(!) MSU vs Bama (!)

Goober McTuber · Post by **Goober McTuber** » Sun Jan 02, 2011 4:39 am

Dinsdale wrote:
Goober McTuber wrote:So tell me, which teams that TCU plays do run the spread and which don't?

I said I watch the MWC, never said I watch it religiously. A few good teams every year, and a whole buncha crap.

Utah is primarily a spread team. Outside of them, I'm hard pressed to think of another spread team. Mostly seems like more pro-style stuff from what I've seen.

From what I see in a brief google search, Wyoming, Utah State and Air Force all utilize spread offenses. Wisky played UNLV this year and I know they played a spread last year but I can't remember what I saw this year other than a victory that was much closer than it should have been. Sounds to me like like another Dinsdale ~~shot from the hip~~ misfire. Thanks for playing.

smackaholic · Post by **smackaholic** » Sun Jan 02, 2011 5:46 pm

IndyFrisco wrote:

Give it a bowl cut and that is a lady that works at my company. Scary.

Give it a crew cut and it's a dude i worked with when i was in the navy.

Give it a shoulder length cut and part it on the side and it's a poor sap i work with currently.

smackaholic · Post by **smackaholic** » Sun Jan 02, 2011 5:50 pm

War Wagon wrote:Christ, puts some (i)tags(i) on this thread already.

I was ogling Sams' bitches for a bit and then remembered I was at work. :doh:

this thread needs tags for sure, but I was thinkin' (G) tags.

Goober McTuber · Post by **Goober McTuber** » Tue Jan 04, 2011 2:55 pm

Sudden Sam wrote:http://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/2011/a ... gan-state/

Comments from MSU fans during the game.

Seriously, if you didn't turn away from the game due to boredom (which I can't even begin to imagine!) you have to wonder how the hell this bunch lost three games. Injuries on the O-line, the young secondary, and Julio's injuries contributed, but I have to say coaching is involved. Too much talent there to lose ANY games.

Nice to see Alabama fan return to planet earth this year. Auburn fan is next.

Goober McTuber · Post by **Goober McTuber** » Tue Jan 04, 2011 3:09 pm

Sudden Sam wrote:
Goober McTuber wrote: Nice to see Alabama fan return to planet earth this year. Auburn fan is next.
Did you watch the entire MSU-Bama game, Goobs?

Do I impress you as some kind of masochist? No. And I’m not sure what that has to do with my point, anyway.

MgoBlue-LightSpecial · Tue Jan 04, 2011 3:15 pm

Sudden Sam wrote:

Ouch.

What really pisses me off is MSU got beatdown to a team that can't even fukkin tee up a football.

MgoBlue-LightSpecial · Tue Jan 04, 2011 3:40 pm

I quit sometime around the 4th quarter to watch the UF/PSU game, but switched back during commercials to see the backup qb (Maxwell) take some snaps. And then he got hurt.

MgoBlue-LightSpecial · Tue Jan 04, 2011 3:42 pm

Sudden Sam wrote:What are people up your way saying about the game? I mean...are they in shock? Pissed? What's being said?

A lot of people saw a whoopin comin, just didn't think it would be that bad. People are onto basketball now.

WolverineSteve · Post by **WolverineSteve** » Tue Jan 04, 2011 4:55 pm

Bama had enough practice teeing it up, you'd think they'd get better at it.

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Tue Jan 04, 2011 5:44 pm

Sudden Sam wrote:Too much talent there to lose ANY games.

Don't get too excited about beating a really slow team that racked up W's against a bunch of really slow teams.

So far, this bowl season has shown that the B11 is stuck in the past -- a buncha big corn-fed-STUDS trying to slam it up the middle. And every now and then, it works against a faster team (sup 2010 Rose Bowl), but not on a consistant basis. The rest of the country is slowly figuring out how to neutralize the B11 big-time-power game with the speed game. The shift has been slow, but is becoming more pronounced every year.

The game is changing -- the old-school B11 powers aren't.

MgoBlue-LightSpecial · Tue Jan 04, 2011 5:58 pm

Dinsdale wrote:The shift has been slow, but is becoming more pronounced every year.

Right. It was a whole 1 year ago when the B10 went 2-0 in BCS bowls, and had a solid showing all the way around. [toolio]Even looked good in their losses, fwiw[/toolio].

Conference play in bowl games will continue to be cyclical on a yearly basis. It isn't about scheme so much as preparation and execution. Anything can happen in these individual match ups.

Mace · Post by **Mace** » Tue Jan 04, 2011 11:09 pm

Dinsdale wrote:
Sudden Sam wrote:Too much talent there to lose ANY games.

Don't get too excited about beating a really slow team that racked up W's against a bunch of really slow teams.

So far, this bowl season has shown that the B11 is stuck in the past -- a buncha big corn-fed-STUDS trying to slam it up the middle. And every now and then, it works against a faster team (sup 2010 Rose Bowl), but not on a consistant basis. The rest of the country is slowly figuring out how to neutralize the B11 big-time-power game with the speed game. The shift has been slow, but is becoming more pronounced every year.

The game is changing -- the old-school B11 powers aren't.

That's as ridiculous as your claim a few years ago that Boise State was "undersized". Think whatever you want but the NFL, for some unknown reason, keeps drafting those slow players from the Big 10 and they become stars. Maybe they just get faster when they put on an NFL uniform. :roll: The Big 10 has as much speed as any conference in the country. Don't believe me, buy a fucking stopwatch because your eyeball test only proves you need glasses.

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Wed Jan 05, 2011 6:43 am

Mace wrote:The Big 10 has as much speed as any conference in the country. Don't believe me... check out which conferences have two-way football/track&field stars

Mace · Post by **Mace** » Wed Jan 05, 2011 10:44 pm

Dinsdale wrote:
Mace wrote:The Big 10 has as much speed as any conference in the country. Don't believe me... check out which conferences have two-way football/track&field stars

Oregon has linemen and LBs who are 100 meter champions? I had no idea. :roll:

TheJON · Post by **TheJON** » Thu Jan 06, 2011 6:31 am

Football is all about running fast. There is nothing more to it. You don't need to know how to tackle or break tackles. Just run really fast and no one will catch you. You guys just keep parroting ESPN and the fat slobs in the media.

Plain and simple........the SEC is the best conference in the country and they have been for a decade. The Big-10 faces pretty much all the top SEC teams every year. Are our teams better than theirs? No. Not because they're faster, but because they're faster and equally powerful.

The Big-10 went 3-5 with a BCS win against the most difficult bowl schedule in the country. Is that great? No. But it's not pathetic either. New Years day was a bad day but the matchups just were not in the Big-10's favor.

Let's take a look at the New Years Day bowls......

Texas Tech beat a Northwestern team without Dan Persa (their entire team basically) by a touchdown. Is this a horrible loss given Persa not playing???

Mississippi State pounded Michigan. Yeah, and so did quite a few Big-10 teams so whoopty-doo.

Michigan State got hammered by an Alabama team that is as good as any team in the country when they're at their best (which they were). This was a bad loss, but MSU was obviously not as good as their record as evidenced by 2 30+ point losses.

Penn State was driving deep into Florida territory for the game winning score when an inexperienced Matt McGloin made a big mistake. This game coulda gone either way. 2 pretty evenly mediocre teams and this game just happened to go Florida's way in the end.

Wisconsin missed a game-tying 2 point conversion with 2 minutes to play in the Rose Bowl against an unbeaten TCU team. This wasn't a bad loss at all.

Then you look at a 7-5 Iowa team beating a 10-2 Missouri squad. Illinois beat Baylor. And Ohio State won a BCS bowl against an SEC team.

Yeah, not good overall, obviously. But not as bad as people are making it out to be. You know what conference was really pathetic? The Big-12. No decent wins at all to go along with 2 of their 10 win teams losing to teams with 7-5 and 6-6 records.

People will keep ripping on how untalented and slow the Big-10 is and the Big-10 will just continue sending future all-pro players at every position to the NFL. I guess the NFL is a slow game, right?

Goober McTuber · Post by **Goober McTuber** » Thu Jan 06, 2011 2:51 pm

Mace wrote:
Dinsdale wrote:
Mace wrote:The Big 10 has as much speed as any conference in the country. Don't believe me... check out which conferences have two-way football/track&field stars
Oregon has linemen and LBs who are 100 meter champions? I had no idea. :roll:

They could be shot put and discus champions. Track and field.

Terry in Crapchester · Thu Jan 06, 2011 3:03 pm

Dinsdale wrote:old-school B11 powers

Note the oxymoron above.

Maybe, because of my age, I have a different definition of "old school" from some of the posters here. But you're almost as old as I am, Dins. And by the time Penn State officially came onboard, I was already in my late 20's.

Any reference to the "old school" version of this conference has to be to an unironic Big Ten. Imho, anyway.

That being said, I suppose there is some justification to the larger context of your post, in light of the fact that old school Penn State played a similar style of football to old school Big Ten. But old school Penn State was not a member of the Big Ten.

Mikey · Post by **Mikey** » Thu Jan 06, 2011 11:30 pm

Terry in Crapchester wrote:
Any reference to the "old school" version of this conference has to be to an unironic Big Ten. Imho, anyway.

You mean the conference that sent their champ every year to play the PAC8 champ in the Rose Bowl?

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