A run for office?

[Screw_Michigan]

I blame West Philly and the shithole of PA for those atrocities. Good lord.

And yes, let's expand a few back-alley abortions to ALL back-alley abortions. Nimrod.

[jiminphilly]

I blame West Philly and the shithole of PA for those atrocities. Good lord.

And yes, let's expand a few back-alley abortions to ALL back-alley abortions. Nimrod.

So you think these types of places are few and far between? Look how long it operated. Look who it catered too. You don't think cities with large minority populations have the same operations going?

[Screw_Michigan]

You still imply that abortion should be banned because there are still back-alley abortions. Why is that? There will ALWAYS be back alley abortions.

[jiminphilly]

You still imply that abortion should be banned because there are still back-alley abortions. Why is that? There will ALWAYS be back alley abortions.

I implied nothing of the sort. I said

if one of the arguments..."

Abortion is hardly a black and white issue as Wags seems to want to make it nor should it be compared to a fucking tree or breakfast item as JSC did. If anything the article I posted is aimed more at the issue of late term abortions.

[trev]

Jsc,

Do you support all abortions no matter the time in preganancy? A woman's choice?

Do you support what the doctor did in the article jiminphilly posted?

[Screw_Michigan]

Do you support what the doctor did in the article jiminphilly posted?

You are a piece of work.

[Tom In VA]

Hasn't Science told us when a person becomes a person yet ?

Science Damnit, this shit is getting old. For Science's sake, if Science can't answer that question I have to question how omniscient this Science is.

:doh:

[Derron]

but in any event who am I to tell him what is moral?

He has broken no laws that I'm aware of, and he has the right to pursue happiness as he sees fit
He's not just thinking about it. He's actually doing it. Yes, rack him.

You don't have the balls to tell him that, you hand wringing pussy. He may have not broken any "criminal" laws (yet), but dude has a strange take on moral lines, kind of like you racking a pervert. He has right to pursue his happiness, and the rest of us have the right to call him a pervert, or whack, or fucked up, you racking him makes you as big an idiot as he is.

Plus the fact it is a poor troll job as well.

[trev]

Jsc, if you support full choice for the woman, then you support what these women had done to their babies at that clinic.

[R-Jack]

To bring this back to the topic,

If I was to run for office, my stance on abortion would be this. It will remain legal. The choice of someone to have this procedure is a personal one and that choice needs to be respected by all. End of story.

But the word "abortion" will be replaced with "fetus killing".

[indyfrisco]

anencephaly and triploidy.

FUCK Google images.

[MgoBlue-LightSpecial]

anencephaly and triploidy

Pray for them.

[indyfrisco]

To bring this back to the topic,

If I was to run for office, my stance on abortion would be this. It will remain legal. The choice of someone to have this procedure is a personal one and that choice needs to be respected by all. End of story.

But the word "abortion" will be replaced with "fetus killing".

Could you add that once you abort, you lose the right to ever bear children again?

"Tying up your tubes, cunt. You don't rate."

[R-Jack]

No.

You can kill as many fetus as you like. You just can't call it an abortion.

Think about it. The phrase "I'll pay her to kill a fetus." just sounds like something that makes you want to put a condom on.

[Shlomart Ben Yisrael]

anencephaly and triploidy

Pray for them.

[War Wagon]

How about trying to justify forcing a woman to carry an unwanted pregnancy to term?

Was she forced to have sex? If not, then she should live with the consequences of her actions. And so should the father.

Have you ever really thought about that?

I've thought about it plenty, ever since Roe v Wade, and believe it or not, I can see both sides of the story.

How exactly would you go about doing that?

By voicing my opinion. By supporting candidates for public office who share my opinion.

and why would you want to?

I don't want to force a woman to carry an unwanted child to term. I want her to not get pregnant in the first place if she's not ready or willing to accept the responsibility.

Where are you coming from? Is it a Bible-based morality, or what?

I was raised Catholic and you don't ever really get over that, but I believe that even were I raised in an atheistic family, I'd still frown on abortion just like I do homosexuality. Because they are unnatural perversions that do nothing to further the survival of the species.

And while I'm mostly a Live and Let Live kinda' guy, I take exception when someone wants to thrust their perversions up in my face and make out like this is completely normal, socially acceptable behavior, with the express intent of convincing others that is the case. It's not, and never will be.

You'll seldom if ever see me start a conversation about abortion, homosexuality, or gay marriage (topics you delight in starting), but you can damn sure bet I'll be in there swinging once they are started.

In short, you keep your skeletons in your closet, I'll keep mine in mine, and we'll get along just fine.

[MgoBlue-LightSpecial]

[War Wagon]

And which is why you want government to exclude certain people from forming a family.

The laws are already on the books, I'm not trying to change them.

You're the lawyer putz trying to legislate from the courtroom bench.

[Dinsdale]

I was raised Catholic and you don't ever really get over that

Werd

[smackaholic]

So, what you are saying chip is, yes, you are fine with killing a viable fetus, so long as you practice good hygiene?

My personal take is that abortion should remain legal for the first trimester. After that, it gets dicey quick. That blob turns into a human with a functioning nervous system pretty quickly. And anyone that supports late term abortion should be stood up against a wall for a really, really late term abortion.

And, no, I am not talking about such horrific cases as jsc cites. I am talking about viable innocent babies who would be protected by murder laws, were they simply on the other side of mom's uterus.

Many of these poor kids are condemned simply because mom decided a little on the late side that she didn't want to be mom. And these self centered cunts don't want to go through the drama of having the kid and maybe developing feelings that would get in the way of letting it be adopted to a loving family.

[Tom In VA]

sssssshhhhh, nobody tell him

[MgoBlue-LightSpecial]

I'm not certain that is his exact plan, but in any event who am I to tell him what is moral? He has broken no laws that I'm aware of, and he has the right to pursue happiness as he sees fit (at least I think Canada has that provision).

Right. So instead of sneaking around on your family like some shady sleezebag, why not tell your wife what's up, get a divorce, and then get after it? Screw these questions of morality. This is basic human decency we're talking here.

[War Wagon]

Screw these questions of morality. This is basic human decency we're talking here.

The terms aren't mutually exclusive, dickbag.

[MgoBlue-LightSpecial]

Are you trying to make some kind of point?

[War Wagon]

Isn't the point obvious?

morality and basic human decency go hand in hand, doncha' think? At least they do in my book. Maybe you have a different set of rules.

[MgoBlue-LightSpecial]

Morality is kind of tricky, imo. In some cases in can be dissected and argued, but then it seems to me in other cases, there's just basic, innate right and wrong. Basic, minimum level of human decency. I was surprised Jsc didn't observe it in this situation.

[trev]

Smackaholic has some great points. That's about it.

No, wait.

Abortion is way too easy. It's the easy way out. And plenty of women get them
for convenience. There has to be some level of human decency. Thanks Mgo.

[Dan Vogel]

I know. He's that sick fuck named Fixer from tards.net with a wife and kids that travels across Canada stalking some unfortunate Chinese curler. Have you ever seen his threads? If she (the curler) knew he was doing this, she'd have him arrested. If his wife knew he was doing this, she'd divorce his mentally ill ass.

See for yourself:

http://www.thetrolls.net/phpbb/viewtopi ... =2&t=10723

What kind of a message board is that supposed to be? I don't have time to look except that that topic. If it is like this one forget it. I'm about to give up on this one anyway. But I don't get a very good impression looking at that topic. Seems like it's a strange guy stalking a girl and then other members laughing at him or egging him on. Is it real of some kind of a prank somebody is playing? It's really not something to be joking about or parading around. Look around the news at the bad results people get into. Just leave the guy alone is your best bet if it's real. Either that or turn the topic in to have it investigated. I don't know it's not up to me.

[Terry in Crapchester]

How exactly would you go about doing that?

By voicing my opinion. By supporting candidates for public office who share my opinion.

and why would you want to?

I don't want to force a woman to carry an unwanted child to term. I want her to not get pregnant in the first place if she's not ready or willing to accept the responsibility.

Only problem with that is that the candidates for public office you tend to support also tend to oppose funding for sex education, leading to more unwanted pregnancies in the first place.

[Terry in Crapchester]

To bring this back to the topic,

If I was to run for office, my stance on abortion would be this. It will remain legal. The choice of someone to have this procedure is a personal one and that choice needs to be respected by all. End of story.

But the word "abortion" will be replaced with "fetus killing".

Could you add that once you abort, you lose the right to ever bear children again?

"Tying up your tubes, cunt. You don't rate."

What about a situation where the pregnancy endangers the life of the mother? For example, an ectopic pregnancy.

[Screw_Michigan]

Basic, minimum level of human decency. I was surprised Jsc didn't observe it in this situation.

What have I missed?

I'm pro-choice, and want the doctor prosecuted and the clinic shut down.

He's referring to your fucked up endorsement of Fixer's sick, mentally ill behavior.

[Truman]

My personal take is that abortion should remain legal for the first trimester. After that, it gets dicey quick. That blob turns into a human with a functioning nervous system pretty quickly. And anyone that supports late term abortion should be stood up against a wall for a really, really late term abortion.

That "blob" you speak of is just as human at eight weeks as it is at 28. Why the arbitrary line in the sand, 'holic? Couldn't a woman's circumstance be just as dire at Week 16? What if she loses the means to care for her child at Week 22? If it is OK to kill a human being in the first 13 weeks of its development, then it should be OK to kill a human being over the course of its remaining 26 weeks of development as well.[/Devil's Advocate]

[Truman]

Speaking of the Devil, one of my favorites:



Rack Dins and all Stephen Lynch resets!

[Dinsdale]

Huuuuge Lynch fan.


And maybe we should just put the abortion issue on the back burner, until such a time that we, as a group, get the whole global warming thing figured out.

[Truman]

:?

Thought we did.

Figure out the "whole global warming thing", that is... Clearly, Foolix is the last to know that his god is dead.

As for the Abortion Issue...

You place a Heavy Burden upon this Board, Mr. Dinsdale.

It's either legally OK to murder unborn humans, or it isn't. Time that we as a Society legislate the fucker - either way - and move on. That is... Until the next batch of brain scientists take elective office...

[smackaholic]

To bring this back to the topic,

If I was to run for office, my stance on abortion would be this. It will remain legal. The choice of someone to have this procedure is a personal one and that choice needs to be respected by all. End of story.

But the word "abortion" will be replaced with "fetus killing".

Could you add that once you abort, you lose the right to ever bear children again?

"Tying up your tubes, cunt. You don't rate."

What about a situation where the pregnancy endangers the life of the mother? For example, an ectopic pregnancy.

been there, done that. the wife had an ectopic and there is no choice, you abort it or the mother and baby both die.

gotta come up with a better argument than that one, terry.

[Bizzarofelice]

I don't have rich friends. so no.