God didn't create the universe

[mvscal]

When you get right down to it, everything in the universe is energy.

Wrong.

Then you disagree with Einstein.

No. You don't know what he's talking about.

The first law of thermodynamics says that energy can neither be created or destroyed.

Nor can it be null. There is no such thing as non-energy and nobody other than ignorant halfwits such as yourself have ever suggested such a thing or chain of events.

Energy comes from other energy.
Nothing comes independently.

Energy cannot come from energy, dumbfuck. What part of the 1st law of thermodynamics are you struggling to comprehend? You just quoted it. Can't you fucking read?

The bottom line is you want us to believe that the universe (energy) was created ... without a Creator.

Let's say that again -- created without a Creator.

So where did you get your Creator? Didn't you just get finished saying that something being created without a creator was a "shadow bunny trick"?

Good job kicking your own ass, melty. Of course nobody expects logically consistent thought processes from Bible-thumping fucktards.

[Dr_Phibes]

Natural Selection is too limited in scope, and science begs for answers to "why" and "how". THAT’s why Evolution is far from settled. Thanks for playing, Doc.

You say that like it's a bad thing. That's what keeps people going and makes mankind great - the unending building of a body of knowledge.
Like the great man with the beard said (Marx): Man only creates problems for himself that he can solve

[mvscal]

Here's a simple yes or no question - Do you think Neanderthals are the ancestor of modern homo sapien?

Actually, they aren't. We likely share a common ancestor, but modern humans are from Africa and neanderthals originated in Europe.

[poptart]

Mvscal, you're either trolling, drunk off your @ss, or just plain stupid.


1st Law of Thermodynamcs
The 1st Law of Thermodyamics simply states that energy can be neither created
nor destroyed (conservation of energy). Thus power generation processes and energy
sources actually involve conversion of energy from one form to another, rather than
creation of energy from nothing.

Energy cannot come from energy, dumbfuck.

lol

- conversion of energy from one form to another (that's energy coming from energy, stooge)
- energy can neither be created


Hawking wants us to believe that energy was created, somehow - without a Creator.

I don't buy it.

If you want to, ok.

So where did you get your Creator? Didn't you just get finished saying that something being created without a creator was a "shadow bunny trick"?

We're not aware of a potential Creator needing to be bound by a law telling us that He needs to be created.
Energy, on the other hand, as we know, can only come from energy which already exists.

It's a basic philosophical point.

[mvscal]

- conversion of energy from one form to another (that's energy coming from energy, stooge)

Uh, no. That is energy going from one form to another. Try to follow the bouncing ball, dumbfuck.

Your statements:

Everything is energy.

Energy cannot be created.

Logical conclusion:

God cannot have created the universe as the universe is made of energy which cannot be created.

We're not aware of a potential Creator needing to be bound by a law telling us that He needs to be created.

That is because you are a Bible thumping waterhead who cannot even begin to think in a logical or rational manner.

[mvscal]

Here's a simple yes or no question - Do you think Neanderthals are the ancestor of modern homo sapien?

Actually, they aren't. We likely share a common ancestor, but modern humans are from Africa and neanderthals originated in Europe.

Should have been written as "An" rather than "the" ancestor

More like an older brother. We aren't descended from them.

[Truman]

Read this: http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/20 ... 141549.htm

..."We can now say that, in all probability, there was gene flow from Neanderthals to modern humans," said the paper's first author, Richard E. (Ed) Green of the University of California, Santa Cruz.

Found your proof:

[Truman]

Funny. And I was about to send the Missouri to deliver the Terms for your Surrendar.

You didn't answer my question, btw...

[poptart]

Your statements:

Everything is energy.

Energy cannot be created.

Logical conclusion:

God cannot have created the universe as the universe is made of energy which cannot be created.

Mvscal, based on the physical laws of the universe, we know that energy only comes from energy which is already in existence.

So the question then is, "How did all of the energy of the universe originate?"

A theory is that an outside source, which is not bound by the physical laws we are aware of, made the energy.

A Creator.

[Goober McTuber]

I dunno. I'll believe whoever was around when all of the shit was going on. Do any of y'all know anybody that old? Goobs is close, but he probably wouldn't remember...

I see you're now posting here at all hours of the day and night. Safe to assume that you're now on disability due to your morbid obesity and the wife has taken the twins and left you. Nice job, loser.

[Goober McTuber]

I dunno. I'll believe whoever was around when all of the shit was going on. Do any of y'all know anybody that old? Goobs is close, but he probably wouldn't remember...

I see you're now posting here at all hours of the day and night. Safe to assume that you're now on disability due to your morbid obesity and the wife has taken the twins and left you. Nice job, loser.

Isn't this how you had it planned, Goober-God?

Actually, I had never planned for you to reproduce.

[Mikey]

So, you admit that you're NOT perfect?

[Goober McTuber]

Not quite. OCDspray is not exactly my finest work.

[Mikey]

Energy, on the other hand, as we know, can only come from energy which already exists.

It's a basic philosophical point.

So you're saying that g0D is limited only by Clausius?

[Truman]

What’s your point?

Even money sez that half the residents of the Dark Continent are walkin’ around with Chimp code in their mitochondrial DNA too, but that doesn’t make them apes (‘sup mvscal)...

[mvscal]

Even money sez that half the residents of the Dark Continent are walkin’ around with Chimp code in their mitochondrial DNA too, but that doesn’t make them apes (‘sup mvscal)...

Humans are apes, idiot.

[Truman]

We're mammals and primates too, asshat. The "ape" distinction diverges at Order Hominidae.

While technically correct, Homo Sapiens is not typically referred to as a "Great Ape" in common parlance. Hominids is the accepted term. Jesus-tits, mvscal ...

[mvscal]

We're mammals and primates too, asshat. The "ape" distinction diverges at Order Hominidae.

Hominidae is a family not an order and it includes gorillas, chimps, orangutans and humans. We are apes and it isn't even arguable. We do not diverge from other apes until we get down to genus.

[Truman]

You done with the horses, mvscal?

"Even money sez that half the residents of the Dark Continent are walkin’ around with Chimp code in their mitochondrial DNA too, but that doesn’t make them Chimps (‘sup mvscal)..."

Feel better?

I see the inference defeated you....