any GERD victims here?

[BSmack]

Rack Canada

About time someone gave Canadian healthcare some love.

[Trampis]

I dont take any medications ...yet... never have, so i dont have any experience with this stuff.

So basically what you are alleging is price fixing by the American drug industry?

[Dr_Phibes]

economy of scale in medical purchasing = 1812, bitches. Is this where I accuse Scott of stealing from me :?

[smackaholic]

Is GERD the name for that wake up in the middle of the night, can't breath dealio? That really is the suck. First time it happened scared the fukk outta me. Haven't taken anything for it but find that not doing stupid shit like eating lots of acidy things late in the day works pretty well to prevent it.

[ucantdoitdoggieSTyle2]

GED victims? :?

Does this have anything to do with being given shitty customer service by PedoInSeattle at the DMV?

[Terry in Crapchester]

GED victims? :?

You rang?

Sin,

mvscal

[smackaholic]

I suspect part of the upper messican's negotiation goes along the lines of.....

canucks: we'll pay 10 bucks for that drug, eh....

evil greedy US big pharm: no, give up fity.

canucks: go fukk yourself, ehh. we'll just counterfeit it.

big pharm doesn't just pull these drugs outta their asses. it takes many really smart folks decades to develop them. that really smart dude can command a pretty decent salary, even without collective bargaining.

unfortunately, the actual manufacture of these goods is ridiculously cheap, so we have to deal with international counterfeiting the best way possible. selling them at a steep discount is about all we can do. americans that point to these discount sales as proof of being gouged are fukking morons.

[Shlomart Ben Yisrael]

canucks: go fukk yourself, ehh. we'll just counterfeit it.

Canadian drugs aren't counterfeit, you jabbering imbecile. Learn the difference between "generic" and "counterfeit".

They are manufactured by the same multi-nationals that manufacture them in your banana republic.

[smackaholic]

canucks: go fukk yourself, ehh. we'll just counterfeit it.

Canadian drugs aren't counterfeit, you jabbering imbecile. Learn the difference between "generic" and "counterfeit".

They are manufactured by the same multi-nationals that manufacture them in your banana republic.

I didn't say they were, you mouth breathing tard. I said you upper messicans and others use the threat of counterfeiting to get such a deal.

[Shlomart Ben Yisrael]

you upper messicans and others use the threat of counterfeiting to get such a deal.

You are a moron. Period.

Where do you get your information? Radio waves through your fillings?

Threat Level is now at "poptart"

[Screw_Michigan]

Baaaaaaaa

[Goober McTuber]

This is my second go round with this shit, first time was 5 years ago when it was first diagnosed and I thought I was having cardiac arrest.

What sucks is the shit they gave me 5 years ago that worked, Nexium, isn't covered by my insurance. I ended up buying Previcid OTC on the phamacist suggestion - saying it was the same thing (it's not). Finally went back in to the Dr. today - he told me to double up on the prescribed doasge of Prevacid and to go buy the Nexium from one of the certified online Canadian Pharmacies. I asked about how safe it was and he said plenty - since he'd been doing the same thing himself.

And damned if wasn't 75% cheaper than CVS - yea, it was a pain in the ass to fill out the forms, fax the Rx and wait 8-12 days for it to arrive, but $59 for a 3 month supply compared to $200 for one month's worth make it worth the hassle.

Rack Canada

My primary care provider had me start with Prevacid then switched me to Prilosec OTC. The Prilosec works like a charm, even if I miss a day on the weekend. I think it was at little more than $20 for a one month supply over the counter. So my PA wrote me a script for the Prilosec and now I get three month's worth (by mail from the provider's mail-order pharmacy) for a $20 co-pay.

[Derron]

This is my second go round with this shit, first time was 5 years ago when it was first diagnosed and I thought I was having cardiac arrest.

What sucks is the shit they gave me 5 years ago that worked, Nexium, isn't covered by my insurance. I ended up buying Previcid OTC on the phamacist suggestion - saying it was the same thing (it's not). Finally went back in to the Dr. today - he told me to double up on the prescribed doasge of Prevacid and to go buy the Nexium from one of the certified online Canadian Pharmacies. I asked about how safe it was and he said plenty - since he'd been doing the same thing himself.

And damned if wasn't 75% cheaper than CVS - yea, it was a pain in the ass to fill out the forms, fax the Rx and wait 8-12 days for it to arrive, but $59 for a 3 month supply compared to $200 for one month's worth make it worth the hassle.

Rack Canada

Dude...seriously how much of that medical shit do you want to keep jamming in your body?

Check out a naturalpathic nutritional therapist and find out what is wrong with your diet....the problem has to be starting there. Correct what is causing the problem and you can stop taking that medical mix and save the jack...

[Derron]

Threat Level is now at "poptart"

Nice piece of work there Marty...way to out yourself as the true tard that you are, who stopped his day to prepare a chart and post it on the T1B message board. You personify the image of the little guy scheming over his keyboard, stopping your work to stroke your imaginary penis, and then hitting the submit key, submitting your masterpiece screaming, " These dudes are in my head big time, so much I made this chart to humiliate them ..."Bode motherfuckers".

And Marty logs off T1B for the night, satiated by his huge victory, and planning his next foray to T1B, because he has no life other than making charts and posting them on T1B.

Fuckin moron.

[Goober McTuber]

T1B Stupidity Threat Level now at "Derron".

Rack Marty.

[Goober McTuber]

Goobs - good info. It sounds like you're on it forever then?
When mine first happened 5 yrs. ago was on the Nexium a month then it went away - so stopped the meds.
My cardiologist said he's on it daily for 10 yrs now.

I've been on it for several years. Mine seemed often to be triggered by carbs. A nice piece of bread before dinner at a restaurant would have me in agony. I don't care how long I have to take it since it works 100% of the time.

[ucantdoitdoggieSTyle2]

Another Communist Red RACK for Marty.

[Terry in Crapchester]

Throw another rack on the pile for Marty.

[smackaholic]

If you let Canada set an artificially low price for pharmaceuticals and then permit those low cost drugs to be shipped into the United States, there would be no way for the pharmaceutical companies to obtain a return on their investment. This would reduce the incentive to engage in costly research. And it would likely spell the end of new pharmaceuticals.

No.

That speil is the same thing the lobby has been spewing at congress for 30 some years to keep the patent lengths ridiculously long and costs ridiculously high.

Most R&D is done by small labs with either grant money or private investment equity. Once the drug makes it's way through FDA approval - then Big Pharma comes in and buys the product or lab.

*Bwa @ Marty's chart

Educate me. How ridiculously long are the U.S. patent "lengths" (I assume you intended "terms") these days? And I assume you realize that patent terms in the United States are shorter now than they were in 1995, in many cases. And then explain the difference in patent terms between the United States and Canada.

And once you've handled those chores, maybe you can refute this:

http://www.rsc.org/chemistryworld/Issue ... Equity.asp

didn't read the whole thing, but read enough to gather than drug research is akin to playing the lottery. the risks are off the chart, which means that the rewards have to be off the charts as well or no one would risk investing in it.

some might say such risky ventures can only be taken by gubmint, but, how well would that work out? my guess is it would add another few thousand DC lobbyist parasites. no thanks.

and yes, i realize that there is already quite a bit of public funding. doesn't mean there shouldn't be private as well. i suspect the private side spends their research dollars a little more intelligently.