they don't make clothes the way they used to

[Derron]

But I'm with derron -- shit is bait. Use it to catch nice steelies -- either of the ones in derron's pics being great examples, the hen on the bottom being a extra-nice one. Let me guess -- late-winter broodstocker from the Wilson? That's gotta be a 15-16# beast.

Ding..ding...while the rest of the world is staying at home because of the snow, you can find nice fish waiting for you.

[Dinsdale]

If you want to catch fish, come for a visit.

Let me think about that...

travel 2000 miles to go fish for what we consider "trash fish" around here, or hop in the car for 30-90 minutes (because I live in a crappy salmon/steelhead part of town, people in the southeastern burbs walk out their door... sup Luther) and go after some of the most prized gamefish in the world...


I'll think about that one.


The Willamette has poor visibility due to recent storms (unusually high number of them for this time of year), but generally this webcam would disply a bunch of boats going after monster chinook this time of year. Sometimes sturgeon as well, but they've really put the kibosh on sturg fishing the last couple of years, due to dwindling numbers (piss-poor lobby-driven fishery management).

[Dinsdale]

What fish do we target that you consider trash fish?

Just about everything you've ever posted a pic of.

[Smackie Chan]

OK I'll bite.

Crawfish as bait is working like a charm up in this bitch.

[Derron]

Just about everything you've ever posted a pic of.

Lemonfish, snapper, and redfish are trash fish?

When you can get salmon, steelhead, sturgeon, rainbow trout, ling cod, and sea bass in quantity, with minimal effort and cost, yes that crab bait you refer to is trash fish. Fuckin snapper has worms in it..here..might keep it if I need to rebait my crab pots.

Don't even try and run fishing smack on the U & L...

[Derron]

Never..never run fishing smack on the U&L. So you see...your lemon fish or what ever the fuck you call it is trash fish...

[Screw_Michigan]

My time is too valuable to waste fishing.

[Derron]

My time is too valuable to waste fishing.

Time is how you value it.

I do not buy supermarket "meat". I eat salmon, sea bass last night, elk roast tonight, elk roast stew for 3 days after that, halibut, occasional venison, and the ranch raised and killed beef, and some natural chicken raised and killed by a friend. I do not buy meat. I barter with vegetables for what I do not kill or catch, I barter vegetables for haircuts.

So I do not pay for it, I know exactly where it came from versus the supermarket "meat". And I have a lot of fun catching, hunting and processing it all. So a hobby or pastime that results in high quality food, that reduces my food expenditures. Win - win.

I used to think that my time was more valuable doing things other than " recreational " pursuits, then a life changing illness showed me the error in that logic.

[Goober McTuber]

My time is too valuable to waste fishing.

What a stupid fucking comment. Your dad must have loved spending time with you.

[Derron]

I used to think that my time was more valuable doing things other than " recreational " pursuits, then a life changing illness showed me the error in that logic.

Is developing moobs a life changing illness?

No it just means you are getting to be a fat fuck like jsc..probably from eating all that high fat southern "food".

[War Wagon]

My time is too valuable to waste fishing.

2890 posts says different, jizzmopper. And didn't Kaotis scrub a few more thousand in addition to that?

[Screw_Michigan]

What a stupid fucking comment. Your dad must have loved spending time with you.

You're a fucking idiot, but that's no surprise. Used to go fishing with my Dad all the time...before I started earning a salary. And I enjoyed it, too.

Go swallow a fistful of screws, grandpa.

[Derron]

My time is too valuable to waste fishing.

What a stupid fucking comment. Your dad must have loved spending time with you.

He probably did like spending time with him...if you get the drift....

[Dinsdale]

My time is much too valuable to spend it not fishing.

Maybe I'll get me one of these (which I can do right up the street from here at my home-away-from-home in the hood), although we can't keep them that big (gotta keep the "little ones" like in derron's pic):

[Goober McTuber]

What a stupid fucking comment. Your dad must have loved spending time with you.

Used to go fishing with my Dad all the time...before I started earning a salary. And I enjoyed it, too.

Do you jizzmop 80 hours a week? Can't make time for a little fishing? Oh, that's right. I forgot where you live. It would probably take 8 hours of driving to get far enough away from that hell-hole to do any decent fishing. Fisting is probably close enough for you, anyway. Jam a 10/0 treble hook up your ass, you fucking landlubber.

[mvscal]

travel 2000 miles to go fish for what we consider "trash fish" around here

OK I'll bite. What fish do we target that you consider trash fish?

Catfish

[Dinsdale]

We have snapper here as well, but you only have to travel a few hundred miles in any direction before the rather generic name "snapper" means something entirely different.

In Oregon, "red snapper" is any of several species of Pacific Rockfish (which makes delicious fish'n'chips). Every now and then, me and the fishing buddies spend the night getting liquored up and tossing jigs off the jetty and catching a mess of rockfish... hook a monster lingcod every once in a while, but they're kind of a bitch to land with light gear on the jetty. And if you cast too far past the rocks of the jetty, you can hook a bigazz skate (not sure what kind they are) that you never see, but you swear you just snagged up on a submarine. Better bust you line off while you still have some.

[smackaholic]

favorite store bought stuff is prolly mako or mahi mahi. love salmon on the grill as well, especially when they are running specials on it. no other edible fish comes close in price.

best that i've caught myself? yellow perch fried up in a pan in a little butter and lemon. other small panfish are very good as well.

[Dinsdale]

yellow perch

I can just about walk to a hole filled with yellow perch (OK, that'd be a long walk, less than a ten minute drive from either of my homes), and there's no bag limit on them, and I could haul in dozens in a couple of hours.

That said... you couldn't pay me to eat one.

[Dinsdale]

BTW -- the best tasting fish of them all is exclusive to the U&L -- sea-run cutthroat, aka harvest trout, aka Bluebacks (although that's a weird one -- the definition of a blueback isn't even consistent in Oregon -- on the other side of the Cascades, a blueback is a sockeye salmon).

They don't get nearly as big as the other anadromous fish (salmon or steelhead), but the shit is like salmon-flavored butter-goo. A 4-pounder is huge, 1.5# being pretty decent.

Definitely my favorite (and we even get to keep a couple again, after about 15 years of C&R-only fishing).

[Dinsdale]

walleye

Non-native here, but some redneck yahoo planted them in the Columbia 30 years ago (along with a buhzillion other non-natives), but they seem to like the Columbia betterthan their native haunts, and the world record came out of there -- think it's up to 19-20#, somewhere in there.


And as if there was ever a debate on who has fishing BODE, bear in mind that in Oregon they pay you to fish...

http://www.dfw.state.or.us/fish/oscrp/C ... minnow.asp

[Derron]

I went fishing at (I think it was called) Devil's Lake next to Lincoln City back about 12 years ago, but we didn't catch shit that day. It was like July, and that water was still fuck-assed cold. I don't see how y'all fuckers swim in shit like that!

That pond is like bath water. You want cold water try a high Cascade lake in mid August. Make your balls shrivel up to your throat. And the lack of fishing might have something to do with the 200 or so antiquated septic systems that drain into that lake. That lake is strictly for the weekend beach house rich mother fuckin owners from Portland to come ride their jet skis and let their teen age kids fornicate on the grass "beaches".

Devils "Lake" has never been on the fishing radar in Oregon, and likely never will be, to at least fishermen who are in the know. Never put a line in that water and don't ever intend to. Plenty of other coastal "lakes" to bass fish at, if you are into bass.

[Dinsdale]

I went fishing at (I think it was called) Devil's Lake next to Lincoln City back about 12 years ago, but we didn't catch shit that day.

Devil's Lake -- it's actually in Lincoln City. It's the source of the World's Shortest River, aptly named the D River.

Many years ago, me and a buddy were meeting people in Lincoln City, but we were there a few hours early, and had time to kill... and booze, which is always a winning combo. After slugging down a fifth in a few minutes (with beer chaser, of course), we decided it would be an absolutely brilliant idea to go rent one of those kiddy-paddleboats to do some fishing. I think we caught some yellow perch... and a stronger buzz... and a strong onshore wind, which resulted in that little POS boat (I recommend against paddleboats for trolling - BTW) being blown to the opposite bank from the boat rental place. It's surprising how quickly two grown fit men can become completely exhausted trying to peddle a toy boat into a 25MPH wind.

But we sure slayed the coho the next day. Ocean trip -- took longer to get the boat out of Depoe Bay (world's smallest shipping harbor... lots of those superlatives on that stretch of coast) than it did to get the whole boat limited out.


Actually, that was Phase 2 of a monumental week of fishing, which is still frequently talked about almost 20 years later... memorable quotes, memorable fish, and multiple memorable rental boat failures... including one right as we made the also-brilliant decision that our 14' aluminum with a 10-horse would make a fine vessel to try and surf the break at the jetty jaws on Nehalem Bay... and we might have pulled it off, had the motor not shit. Good times.

[Dinsdale]

Plenty of other coastal "lakes" to bass fish at, if you are into bass.

Me and a friend (same fishing buddy as previous story) started out on the North Coast, did a bunch of drugs, and somehow ended up at Tenmile Lakes.

Caught some bucketheads, but it was remarkable for the biggest freaking bluegill I've ever seen, 3 times over. Don't know if there's some weird mutation going on there, but we were catching bluegill the size of dinner plates as fast as we could bait hooks.

A year or two after that, same buddy took his wife, stepkids, and boat there -- wouldn't have believed the BS coming out of his mouth if he hadn't brought the 9.5 freaking pound largemouth home. He caught 4 such monsters in one morning (I laughed when he told me how -- taking his ultralight with a little worm on it, catching a small bluegill, shoving a 1/0 through it (alive), and hanging it under a huge bobber and casting it on the edge of the reeds. Last I checked, fishing with live fish is still illegal in Oregon).

Tenmile kicks out some monsters -- I think they get fat eating all the baby salmon. But just about any big puddle on the Coast, especially South Coast has redneck-planted largemouth.

[smackaholic]

yellow perch

I can just about walk to a hole filled with yellow perch (OK, that'd be a long walk, less than a ten minute drive from either of my homes), and there's no bag limit on them, and I could haul in dozens in a couple of hours.

That said... you couldn't pay me to eat one.

Have you had it? Nice white meat, bit of a sweet taste to it. Maybe U&L yellow perch is different from U&R.

[smackaholic]

You know - we've got a few yellow perch in a lake or two around here, but we don't usually fuck with them, as they're too small to fuck with. I've heard they're good, but bony.

I recently started eating some walleye at a place I play at sometimes, and it is really fucking good - enough to where I might actually have to start fishing for them in a few of the North GA lakes...

As with all small panfish, perch are boney and a PITA to eat, but they are good.

[smackaholic]

Caught some bucketheads, but it was remarkable for the biggest freaking bluegill I've ever seen, 3 times over. Don't know if there's some weird mutation going on there, but we were catching bluegill the size of dinner plates as fast as we could bait hooks.

Loved catching bluegills as a kid. A nice big fat one like you mentioned can put up a hell of a fight also. Pretty decent eating too. And, I am fairly certain that the bluegill is the most badass fish pound for pound in the world. A redneck buddy of mine caught a little one bass fishing one day and brought it home and put it in a fish tank. There was some sort of crab/crayfish thing in the tank. The second that thing molted it was on. That bluegill ate every last appendage that thing had. In the spring we pulled some big fat tadpoles off the pool cover and wondered what mr bluegill would think of them. that tadpole had to be half as big as the bluegill, but, it didn't matter. that fukkin' tadpole didn't even have a chance to get wet!!!!i think he quit after the third one which meant he had to have eaten at least his body weight in tadpoles inside of 5 minutes.

[Diego in Seattle]

Dins....going out on the ocean is it Victory @ Sea, or is it reasonably calm on a nice day? It's nice off SD, but every time I've been to the beach up here it's looking pretty nasty for a small boat.

[smackaholic]

Dins....going out on the ocean is it Victory @ Sea, or is it reasonably calm on a nice day? It's nice off SD, but every time I've been to the beach up here it's looking pretty nasty for a small boat.

i think you pretty much answered your own question here....

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=38127

yeah, it gets a little rough north of LA. just ask surfer dude. he would agree, but, he's kinda dead.

[Derron]

multiple memorable rental boat failures... including one right as we made the also-brilliant decision that our 14' aluminum with a 10-horse would make a fine vessel to try and surf the break at the jetty jaws on Nehalem Bay... and we might have pulled it off, had the motor not shit. Good times.

Ahh..the old Brighton moorage rental boats. Rent a boat that may or may not bring you back alive, take it out to the jaws and size up the bar.If it is not white capping, it must be good to go. Fix this image in your mind and then repeat it multiple times over the year. It is a wonder more people are not crab bait. I have seen that multiple times, and even had people in those 14 footers cut me off, ( in a 19 foot Bluewater), flip me off and tell ME to get the fuck out of THEIR WAY.



Oregon ocean bars can be treacherous at any time. However, the bar at Brookings is routinely crossed by 14 foot boats, since it is one of the calmest bars on the coast, UNLESS there is a tidal wave coming in.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRCodvk7vGc

[Dinsdale]

Dins....going out on the ocean is it Victory @ Sea, or is it reasonably calm on a nice day? It's nice off SD, but every time I've been to the beach up here it's looking pretty nasty for a small boat.

It all depends.

The Columbia has sank more boats than any freshwater crossing on the planet (Impressive, considering how much longer other ports have been in use).

They're currently trying to fix up the bar at Garibaldi (Tillamook Bay), since it got hosed in storms a couple of years ago. That was the last bar I crossed (there's a courtroom joke in here somewhere), and it's a very short but nasty crossing. Probably only 200-300 yards of breakers or so, but at the wrong tide/conditions, it's the longest 300 yards you ever saw.

Depoe Bay (between Lincoln City and Newport) is a peice of cake. The coastline dents in a little bit, and there's no jetties, since natural rock formations do the same task. In summer, I've seen guys in driftboats with 10 horse motors taking it on.

But basically, in summertime, there's a lot less break. Winter, you need a fairly serious boat.


Up your way, it's a little different -- the seas are even rougher than here, but the Straits seem to provide pretty easy access, and the Straits are pretty much an ocean unto themselves anyway. I've never been out on a boat there, but I'm one of the handful of people who have driven out to the Dungeness Lighthouse, which might as well be in the middle of the ocean. For people who aren't actually working on the lighthouse (like I was), you can still hike out to the end of the spit -- it's about 6 miles each way. Cool as all get-out, although about the last place you want to be in a tsunami. If you're never been to Sequim, it's freaking weird -- a semi-arid "oasis" next to the wettest place in the Continental 48... very weird. And you'd swear you can hit Victoria with a rock from there (and who among us doesn't want to pelt canada with rocks?).

Check that place out sometime, if you haven't already. Pretty sure you can get a ferry from Seattle over to the peninsula, if you don't want to go all the way to Olympia to get around it. Olypic Peninsula is pretty freaking cool.


But to the original question... it depends on the time of year and individual day. Good day is only "pretty dangerous," a bad day is like a cheesey remake of The Perfect Storm.