Tardd Haley

[Truman]

Per one of the local blow-torches, multiple "un-named sources" about Arrowhead confirmed today that Haley's head was squarely on the proverbial chopping block had the Griefs not mounted their miraculous comeback against the hapless Dolts this past Sunday.

Not exactly a ringing vote of confidence from Scott Canoli. Would imagine that it's tough to coach with Career Over troll lurking over your shoulder....

With a roadie at the 'duhs out of the bye week, and a Halloween match-up at home against the Blots that promises to be more trick-than-treat, it will be fascinating to see if Tardd is still stalking the sidelines come November 6th against the Fish. More on this as posted links break....

[War Wagon]

Tarrd Haley?

Guess it's clear where you stand.

Myself, I thought he had lost the team after week 2. Clearly, that didn't happen when it easily could have. The players bust their ass for him.

I'm not sold on the guy but not near writing him off yet as I was with Herm soon into his tenure. Anybody that could get what he's getting out of Bowe must be doing something right and lets not forget he lost several key players on the way to 0-3.

[Screw_Michigan]

had the Griefs not mounted their miraculous comeback against the hapless Dolts this past Sunday

Wait...I thought SD was the Dolts? What division are you in again, exactly?

[War Wagon]

SD = Blots

[Screw_Michigan]

So you can only have one slang for your division opponents? :?

[poptart]

If Haley was going to be shitcanned, doing so before the BI week might have made sense.
You obviously give yourself an extra week to get things settled as the interim guy takes over.

I don't know what will happen with him in KC, but I'm personally glad he'll be coming to The O at least one more time.

Fuck that guy UP.

:twisted:

[Screw_Michigan]

Last Dolt home game.

Someone was saying?

[War Wagon]

I don't know what will happen with him in KC, but I'm personally glad he'll be coming to The O at least one more time.

I'll bet you are, dogknapper.

Meanwhile, the Kansas City motherfucking CHIEFS, off the bye week, are coming to the town you're 5,000 miles away from to do what they always do... slap dicks upside 'duh jowls.

[Truman]

Tarrd Haley?

Guess it's clear where you stand.

Know what they say about assumptions, Wags...

Naw, just throwin' pops a bone. It is funny smack.

Besides looking like OWS burn-out after an all-night bender, I've got no beef with the guy. Think he's doing the best he can with what he has to work. Many accounts suggest that his players like him, and play hard for him. They're just not very good.

Last season's 10-7 was largely smoke and mirrors, and we all saw what happened every time the Chiefs lined up against a physical team. Spicoli addressed that weakness in training camp this summer by counting Clark Hunt's cap profits while allowing the Chief's most-physical D-linemen ('sup ucan't) to sign with Tennessee and Carolina.

My bitch is more with Mr. Patriots Way - and that act is beginning to wear thin. Other than Berry, Spicoli has yet to draft a player that has made any kind of impact to this team, and his FE pickups have been less than impressive. If there's any firin' to be done this season, I think Scrooge Hunt needs to look at the top. 'Sayin'.

[Truman]

So you can only have one slang for your division opponents? :?

Try to keep up, Screwey.

Unofficial SCIII AFC Smack List, circa 1999:

AFC West
KC: Griefs, Chefs
Oak: ‘duhs, Primer and Grease, Thugs, Drive-bys
Den: Mules, Donks, Donkeys, Horseheads, Mister Eds
SD: Blots

AFC South
Ind: Dolts, Clots
Hou: Texasses, Kotexans
Ten: Tits, Tuxedos, Tight Ones
Jax: Jag-offs

AFC North
Cle: Clowns, Brown-stains
Cin: Ben-Gals, Ben-Wa’s, Bungles
Bal: Crows
Pit: Stillers, Squealers

AFC East
NE: Paste, Past
NY: Jest
Buf: Jills
Mia: Fish, Fins

[War Wagon]

Naw, just throwin' pops a bone.

'tart didn't even have the gumption to propose his traditional bet with Chiefsfan this year, guess he was tired of having his nose rubbed in it. That, and international postage is a bitch when you're saving up for armageddon.

[poptart]

Meanwhile, the Kansas City motherfucking CHIEFS, off the bye week, are coming to the town you're 5,000 miles away from to do what they always do... slap dicks upside 'duh jowls.

Always?

As in last year?

Oakland basically overpowered you twice.

KC looks like a lesser team in '11 and Oakland looks like a better team in '11.

I really don't like your chances all that much.

[poptart]

Naw, just throwin' pops a bone.

'tart didn't even have the gumption to propose his traditional bet with Chiefsfan this year, guess he was tired of having his nose rubbed in it. That, and international postage is a bitch when you're saving up for armageddon.

Scott and I have a bet again this year.

You could have hit me up - like he did, if you wanted action again.

I really didn't care enough about another bet to propose the wager.

[mvscal]

My bitch is more with Mr. Patriots Way - and that act is beginning to wear thin. Other than Berry, Spicoli has yet to draft a player that has made any kind of impact to this team, and his FE pickups have been less than impressive. If there's any firin' to be done this season, I think Scrooge Hunt needs to look at the top. 'Sayin'.

Hmm. Let's have a look.

2009

Round 1 Pick 3 (3) Tyson Jackson DE 6′4″ 295 LSU
Round 2 Pick 2 (34) Traded to NE for Cassel/Vrabel
Round 3 Pick 3 (67) Alex Magee T 6′3″ 298 Purdue
Round 4 Pick 2 (102) Donald Washington CB 6′0″ 197 Ohio State
Round 5 Pick 3 (139) Colin Brown OL 6′7″ 335 Missouri
Round 6 Pick 2 (175) Quinten Lawrence WR/KR 6′0″ 184 McNeese State
Round 7 Pick 3 (212) Javarris Williams RB 5′10″ 223 Tennessee State
Round 7 Pick 28 (237) Jake O’Connell TE 6′4″ 255 Miami (OHIO)
Round 7 Pick 47 (256) Ryan Succop K 6′2″ 218 South Carolina

2010

Round One (5)- S Eric Berry Tennessee
Round Two (36)- RB Dexter McCluster
Round Two (50)- CB Javier Arenas Alabama
Round Three (68)- G Jon Asamoah Illinois
Round Three (93)- TE Tony Moeaki
Round Five (136)- S Kendrick Lewis Mississippi
Round Five (142)- LB Cameron Sheffield Troy

2011

1/26 Jonathan Baldwin WR 6-4 230 Pitt
2/55 Rodney Hudson C/G 6-2 300 Florida State
3/70 Justin Houston OLB 6-3 258 Georgia
3/86 Allen Bailey DL 6-3 288 Miami
4/118 Jalil Brown CB 6-1 204 Colorado
5/135 Ricky Stanzi QB 6-4 228 Iowa
5/140 Gabe Miller OLB 6-3 257 Oregon State
6/199 Jerrell Powe NT 6-2 331 Miss.
7/223 Shane Bannon FB 6-2 265 Yale

[Truman]

^^^^^^^^^^
Ah. Results courtesy of the mvscal search engine.*

*It ignores your question, calls you a dumbass and tells you to fuck off before redirecting you to google...

[mvscal]

Actually, I had to go before I finished so I just threw that out there for future reference/discussion.

I see some decent players in that those drafts. 2009 was a trainwreck, though. Jackson has been a bust and the only other two players from that draft still on the team are Succop and Washington (who also blows goats). OTH, 2010 was an excellent draft by any measure. Two high quality starters with Berry and Moeaki and five of the seven saw considerable playing time and all them are still with the team. I think it's too early to grade the 2011 class specially considering the lack of a full camp.

Pioli has had one great draft, one shit draft and one that remains to be seen but he has added more quality players than just Berry so, yes, you are a dumbass and should fuck off.

[Truman]

I said impact, asshat, not "quality." The terms are not necessarily one-and-the-same.

Eric Berry is an impact player.

Ryan Succup, Mr. Irrelevent '09, is a nice kicker, and a steal in the 7th Round - but an impact player? Really?

Dex and Javy have improved the return game from Haley's first year, but do teams actually game-plan for those two beyond admonishing their special teams to "make sure you lay a hat on those little fuckers"?

Asomoah and Hudson will most likely both start in the league for 10 years, but right now they're busy learning the game and backing up veterans. "Impact" means Joe Thomas or Jake Long - Not riding the pine behind the likes of Casey Weigman and Ryan Lilja.

Tony Moeaki showed promise after a "quality" rookie year - and the Chiefs were expecting great things from him this year - but guess who got hurt again in training camp? Not quite the "impact" on offense the Chiefs were looking for. Same collar he wore at Iowa, btw, and why he dropped to the 3rd round in the first place.

And yes, the jury IS still out on 2011, though Justin Houston is showing glimpses that he could be a beast - that is, if he can lay off the chronic. So I'll stand by my take, and kindly suggest that you eat-shit-and-die in an OWS dung-heap. TIA.

[mvscal]

So ten year NFL starters and quality role players count for nothing? If your GM doesn't deliver at least one all-pro player every year he should be fired?

Yes, you're a fucking moron.

[Truman]

So ten year NFL starters and quality role players count for nothing?

No, Loser, that would be your college education. Clearly, you're struggling with discerning the difference between impact and quality:

im·pact (mpkt)
n.
4. The power of making a strong, immediate impression: a speech that lacked impact.

Strike two, Casey. You might wanna try swinging the bat through the strike zone next time instead of stupidly using it to beat yourself about the head. Just tryin' to be helpful. Fuckin' tard.

[mvscal]

Way to duck the questions, pussy.

[MgoBlue-LightSpecial]

Had "Tardd Haley" won the game 80-3, he still should've been fired. That pussy is an absolute embarrassment, not just to the NFL, but to men in general.

[Truman]

Way to duck the questions, pussy.

Way to move the goal posts, cunt. Find me an impact player drafted by Pioli other than Berry, or kill yourself right now.

RIP, Loser.

[R-Jack]

Tru,

You seem to have a fairly lofty definition of an impact player. Would you care to elaborate on how many players have come out of the last three drafts that would fit your "impact" criteria and how many of those Pioli passed on or had a chance to grab.

[poptart]

Spicoli has yet to draft a player that has made any kind of impact to this team

I think some word games are being played here.

Many players can surely "make an impact" without being one of the rare IMPACT PLAYERS.

To this point, Pioli hasn't lived up to lofty expectations.

[Truman]

Tru,

You seem to have a fairly lofty definition of an impact player. Would you care to elaborate on how many players have come out of the last three drafts that would fit your "impact" criteria and how many of those Pioli passed on or had a chance to grab.

Oh, I dunno, Jack: Try anybody south of #3 in '09? Maybe mvscal will post a list for you. Regardless, Jackson has been an unmitigated disaster. You cannot whiff on a pick that high unless you're Oakland, who clearly has zero expectations of winning anything ever.

'10 was a quality draft for the Chiefs. But outside Berry, it wasn't an impact draft. Other teams had impact drafts.

Jury's still out on '11. Regardless, that isn't the point of this thread. Spicoli isn't exactly signing the likes of Asomugha free agent-wise either. Chiefs woes are not to be laid solely at Haley's feet.

[War Wagon]

did somebody say unmitigated disaster?

You 're a mitigated disaster, Tru.

[Truman]

did somebody say unmitigated disaster?

You 're a mitigated disaster, Tru.

mit·i·gate
   [mit-i-geyt] Show IPA verb, -gat·ed, -gat·ing.

verb (used with object)
1. to lessen in force or intensity, as wrath, grief, harshness, or pain; moderate.

Really? Feelin' froggy these days are we, Wags?

[poptart]

Spicoli isn't exactly signing the likes of Asomugha free agent-wise either

Is that supposed to be a criticism?

Asomugha is a real good player, but Philly overpaid for him (as Oakland did for a couple years).

You don't need a VERY pricey corner who is a bit overrated, you need more quality beef up front on both sides of the ball - and you need another playmaker or two on offense.
QB upgrade, too, at some point.


Btw, the "Oakland has zero expectations of winning anything ever" take is the KYOA moment of the day in here.

KC's last playoff win was... when?

[Truman]

Btw, the "Oakland has zero expectations of winning anything ever" take is the KYOA moment of the day in here.

No it doesn't.

Speaking of the gift that keeps on giving...

You people drafted JaMarcus Russell.

The entire NFL holds draft-smack on you for near-eternity for that gem. Fuck off, Dog-Eater.

[War Wagon]

Really? Feelin' froggy these days are we, Wags?

I was born froggy. Why bother logging in if not?

Sorry, I work with this Rockhurst grad who likes to do that.

[Truman]

Do what? Bounce the antithesis of words? Woe be to your Rock State grad were he ever to encounter the fury that is Truman. Mitigate? Might as well color me as some kind of brain-dead Raider Fan.

Raiders are gonna win it all, y'all! - Last words of a condemned, death-row dirt-bag before the State of Texas fried his murdering ass....

[Screw_Michigan]

Nice cripple fight up in this bitch. Rack KC or the AFC West...I guess.

[poptart]

Russell is one of THE biggest bust picks ever, no doubt.

But you know what?

I'd stack supposedly senile Al's drafts of '09-'11 up against supposed genius Pioli's and laff my ass off at the ass beating you've taken.

2009: DH Bey, M. Mitchell, M. Shaughnessy, L. Murphy - starters.
B. Meyers - playing time

2010: R. McClain, L. Houston, J. Veldheer, J. Ford, T. Goethel - starters

2011: S. Wisniewski, D. Moore - starters
DV Dyke, C. Chekwa, T. Jones, J. Barksdale - playing time

Some of these guy are now really good players - and they'll get better.

[Truman]

Have you even read this thread pops?

Ret me put this into words even you can forrow:

I wourd be the rast person in the worrd to defend Piori's prayer serections in the Reague's draft . Other than Russerr, rink me to where I raughed at any of Oakrands serections rate-ry.

Out of 24 players drafted over the last three years, only three start. - and one of them is named Tyson Jackson. The other is a kicker. Moeaki would have made the fourth this year. That works out to be a about a whopping 17% of your picks, folks. This is unacceptable. Every other difference-maker on this team (Tamba, DJ, Jamal, Flowers, Bowe, Carr, and Albert) were all drafted by Peterskin.

Which bottom-line's my point: The wheels coming off this thing isn't Tardd's fault. If Clark Hunt is looking to tag a fall-guy and scape-goat for this season's woes, then he might want to take a hard look at the suit in the office next door.

[Paul]

Couldn't disagree MORE, Tru. Pioli has a blueprint for how he is going to continue to build this football team, and he is going to stick with it. I DO agree that he wasn't nearly aggressive enough in free agency before the season began, but perhaps he will be during the next offseason. In the meantime the Chiefs are on a 2-game winning streak and will make it THREE in a row in Oaktown next week. :twisted: