USC-Stanford

MgoBlue-LightSpecial · Sun Oct 30, 2011 2:57 pm

3 OTs? Shit, I picked the wrong time to turn the tv off. Glad Stanford won, though. I want to see them play the LSU/Bama winner in the MNC.

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Sun Oct 30, 2011 4:44 pm

Frankly, I wasn't that impressed with Stanford, now they had to play a "real" opponent.

Mediocrity was all over the field, on both sides.

If USC would have got a better game out of Barkley, Stanford is crying in their beer today.

USC's defense has improved dramatically over this season.

Fun game to watch, though.

Van · Post by **Van** » Sun Oct 30, 2011 4:55 pm

Barkley wasn't the problem. Woods was. While the refs cost USC a definite four points on that missed P.I. against Woods in the endzone, Woods' drops/blown routes cost USC a minimum of another seven points. He was just strangely out of it all night.

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Sun Oct 30, 2011 5:05 pm

As an aside, since it doesn't merit a thread, and this is PAC-talk...

Jake Locker's cousin, Casey Locker, is an absolute beast at safety for Wazzu.

Wazzu didn't look that bad until their starting QB Tuel went down. His backup, Lobbestael, is in the Maynard-category, except he's a 5th year senior.

Painting their recievers to look like the broad side of a barn wouldn't help.

MgoBlue-LightSpecial · Sun Oct 30, 2011 5:07 pm

Dinsdale wrote:Frankly, I wasn't that impressed with Stanford, now they had to play a "real" opponent.

Yeah, I'm still in shock that Stanford didn't play as well on the road under the lights vs a quality opponent as they do at home vs San Jose State.

Crazy times!!

Mikey · Post by **Mikey** » Sun Oct 30, 2011 5:39 pm

Stanford is vulnerable to speed on both sides of the ball, especially when they're on defense. They scored almost effortlessly on their first drive, but then pretty much stalled for the rest of the first half. This had me a little worried, but not so much because they've done this before. In those cases, though, they always came out smoking in the third quarter. When SC scored those two quick third quarter TDs I got really worried.

SC's defense impressed especially with their pass rush, which caused real problems, and their coverage which helped enable the rush to get to Luck. Stanford doesn't have much speed on the outside and they depend a lot on hitting quick short passes based on well run routes. SC was able to jump these a lot. Don't know what's happened to Owusu this year. He seems to have lost about 1/2 step from last season where he was standout at both returns and receiving.

Sure some bad calls hurt SC, but these cut both ways. I can remember at least one or two blatant holds that weren't called and also some late hits. You have to take those and just move on. Stanford was sloppier than I've seen them recently. Must have been a record number of offsides, delay of game, OB kickoffs, fucked up punts, etc.

I wasn't that impressed with Woods. Sure he's fast and runs well ATC but it seems that the reason he has so many catches and yards is that they throw it to him on about 67% of their offensive plays.

One thing I really like about Stanford is the lack bullshit. They play a businesslike game. I get really tired of the woofing, dancing, taunting and the other ghetto shit that comes out of so many teams. Kiffin really needs to instill some class in his players.

Another thing...I think that the "throw a flag" motion that's become so ubiquitous these days should be cause for a flag against the assholes that do it. Justified or not, you're not gonna get a ref to throw a flag by doing that and it just shows them up. You're playing the game, bitch, not calling it. Get up, go back to the huddle and STFU.

I'm a little more worried about Oregon now than before this game. But I don't think their defense can hold a candle to SC's. Should be a real shootout.

Van · Post by **Van** » Sun Oct 30, 2011 6:09 pm

Based off of last night I wouldn't be very impressed with Woods either. He looked horrible. That was definitely an anomaly for him, as he's usually much more sure-handed and focused. His route-running yesterday was simply bizarre. Yeah, I know he missed most of practice this week, but he still should've known his routes. It wasn't that his timing was merely off; no, he kept cutting the wrong way.

It finally got to the point that Barkley had to chew him out, and Barkley usually doesn't get in his teammates' faces like that. It was just weird. Woods looked like he was in a fog all night.

socal · Post by **socal** » Mon Oct 31, 2011 4:57 am

Van wrote:looked like he was in a fog all night.

Word on the street was that he had to pee all night long.

Mikey · Post by **Mikey** » Mon Oct 31, 2011 5:05 am

socal wrote:
Van wrote:looked like he was in a fog all night.
Word on the street was that he had to pee all night long.

I was wondering why he kept holding his crotch and running in place on the sidelines.

MuchoBulls · Post by **MuchoBulls** » Mon Oct 31, 2011 1:01 pm

I found Erin Andrews ripping Andrew Luck away from his celebrating teammates to be quite comical

R-Jack · Post by **R-Jack** » Mon Oct 31, 2011 6:31 pm

AT& T can produce that but can't produce a cell phone signal when I'm on my downstairs shitter?

SoCalTrjn · Post by **SoCalTrjn** » Mon Oct 31, 2011 6:55 pm

Our seats are in section 7 just above the tunnel, not in that photo.

We didn't go to the game though, I gave our tickets to my wife's friend and her family

Mikey · Post by **Mikey** » Mon Oct 31, 2011 7:10 pm

My seat was in the recliner section, just behind the TV tray.

SoCalTrjn · Post by **SoCalTrjn** » Mon Oct 31, 2011 9:21 pm

hard to get excited to go to games that the refs seem to decide the winner and loser instead of the teams

Goober McTuber · Post by **Goober McTuber** » Tue Nov 01, 2011 11:45 am

SoCalTrjn wrote:hard to get excited to go to games that the refs seem to decide the winner and loser instead of the teams

They don't just hand you that Board Bitch trophy. You have to go out and earn it.

Sirfindafold · Post by **Sirfindafold** » Tue Nov 01, 2011 6:58 pm

Goober McTuber wrote:They don't just hand you that Board Bitch trophy. You have to go out and earn it.

I'm sure they'll make an exception in your case.

Goober McTuber · Post by **Goober McTuber** » Tue Nov 01, 2011 8:41 pm

Sirfindafold wrote:
Goober McTuber wrote:They don't just hand you that Board Bitch trophy. You have to go out and earn it.

I'm sure they'll make an exception in your case.

So in other words, I've done nothing to warrant my receiving said trophy. Idiot.

Atomic Punk · Post by **Atomic Punk** » Tue Nov 01, 2011 8:57 pm

Mikey wrote: One thing I really like about Stanford is the lack bullshit. They play a businesslike game. I get really tired of the woofing, dancing, taunting and the other ghetto shit that comes out of so many teams. Kiffin really needs to instill some class in his players.

Mike, I have no idea why Lane does this other than to take attention away from his young team and to put it onto himself. I would think if he really got out of hand his dad Monty would pull Lane aside and tell him to STFU.

I remember when Petros and Money were interviewing Lane a few weeks ago and Lane said Jeff Tedford wouldn't let him take the headphones off and drop the clipboard when David Carr rolled up 60+ points against Dennis Erickson's #7 Oregon State team (pre BCS Dins). Lane must have learned a lot from the former Fresno State QB and OC Jeff Tedford back in the day under Jim Sweeney.

Sirfindafold · Post by **Sirfindafold** » Tue Nov 01, 2011 9:22 pm

Goober McTuber wrote:
Sirfindafold wrote:
Goober McTuber wrote:They don't just hand you that Board Bitch trophy. You have to go out and earn it.

I'm sure they'll make an exception in your case.

So in other words, I've done nothing to warrant my receiving said trophy. Idiot.

You logged in didn't you?

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Wed Nov 02, 2011 3:14 pm

Atomic Punk wrote:David Carr rolled up 60+ points against Dennis Erickson's #7 Oregon State team (pre BCS Dins).

So, if you're keeping score at home...

BYU won a BCS Championship.

And David Carr played in the pre-BCS era.

Everyone got that?

Atomic Punk · Post by **Atomic Punk** » Wed Nov 02, 2011 4:42 pm

No dipshit, I never said BYU won a "BCS" NC. I said they won on NC. Also Dinsy, I never said when David Carr was QB that There wan't the BCS. Why do you lie?

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Wed Nov 02, 2011 5:08 pm

Atomic Punk wrote:Also Dinsy, I never said when David Carr was QB that There wan't the BCS. Why do you lie?

Atomic Punk wrote:when David Carr rolled up 60+ points against Dennis Erickson's #7 Oregon State team (pre BCS Dins).

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Wed Nov 02, 2011 5:10 pm

Atomic Punk wrote:Why do you lie?

Atomic Punk wrote:when David Carr rolled up 60+ points against Dennis Erickson's #7 Oregon State team

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/scores10 ... 245332.htm

SoCalTrjn · Post by **SoCalTrjn** » Wed Nov 02, 2011 9:09 pm

That call for taunting on Marquis Lee was total bullshit, he didnt show anyone up, didnt point at a Stanford player, he put his arms out to the side and dropped the football, didnt spike it.
Also what happened on the spot of the ball on the holding call on Stanford in OT? It was like 2nd and 6, Stanfords Guard gets a hold call on him and they move the ball 5 yards forward and its 2nd and 1. The rush only advanced the ball about 2 yards, they gained 3 yards and didnt lose a down by holding?
The call on the hit by TJ McDonald that allowed Luck to stay in the Heisman race was utter bullshit but its been par for the course in the Pac. The reason SEC teams play more aggressively on defense is because SEC refs dont call shoulder to shoulder hits as 15 yard personal foul penalties.
Kiffin was hit by Larry Scott for 10 grand for saying the refs were horrible, also par for the course, since Larry Scott has come on to the pac, he has done nothing but try to fuck USC over. Trojans should go independent, see what the fucking TV deal is worth without USC.

R-Jack · Post by **R-Jack** » Thu Nov 03, 2011 4:26 am

SoCalTrjn wrote:That call for taunting on Marquis Lee was total bullshit, he didnt show anyone up, didnt point at a Stanford player, he put his arms out to the side and dropped the football, didnt spike it.

Pretty much agreed. Don't know how you can taunt an opponent when you are pandering to the crowd at a home game.

Everything else was your typical crybaby faggot bullshit.

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Thu Nov 03, 2011 3:36 pm

The radio honks pointed out something somewhat alarming the other day.

Since Scott tried to crackdown on the horrid PAC officiating (his heart was in the right place, I guess), it's had the opposite æffect...

It's a two-way tie for most penalty yards incurred in D1... between Colorado and Arizona State. Occupying the 6 and 7 spots are Oregon State and Kal. UDub is #12, Oregon #16.

USC is the least -penalized (by yards) team in the PAC, and they're still in the 50th percentile of penalized teams.

Wasn't that way until conference play started. By the time the conference schedule is done, I'm guessing the PAC will hold the #1 through #12 positions in penalty yards.

The PAC refs have been the undisputed Kings of Ineptitude for quite some time, but is dumping the laundry hamper out every game really an improvement?

The taunting and defensive holding calls are so inconsistant, it's laughable.

Over the last couplefew seasons, I have taken note of something an SECBSH I used to watch games with pointed out -- you can go a long time without seeing a defensive holding call in the SEC. As he pointed out, "Man's game, bitch... fight through it." Definitely like this aspect of SEC referees.

Atomic Punk · Post by **Atomic Punk** » Thu Nov 03, 2011 4:06 pm

Although Dins is the biggest and most undisputed asshole on this board, his take is spot on.

Mikey · Post by **Mikey** » Thu Nov 03, 2011 4:54 pm

Atomic Punk wrote:Although Dins is the biggest and most undisputed asshole on this board, his take is spot on.

Dins may be an asshole but, from what I hear, he's not all that big. Not Toddowen big anyway.

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Thu Nov 03, 2011 5:00 pm

Mikey wrote: Dins may be an asshole but, from what I hear, he's not all that big. Not Toddowen big anyway.

I'm not fat.

I'm not a particularly small man, either.

Since you seem concerned.

Goober McTuber · Post by **Goober McTuber** » Thu Nov 03, 2011 5:30 pm

Dinsdale wrote:
Mikey wrote: Dins may be an asshole but, from what I hear, he's not all that big. Not Toddowen big anyway.
I'm not fat.

I'm not a particularly small man, either.

Since you seem concerned.

Mikey = KC Scott's filter

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Thu Nov 03, 2011 5:36 pm

Although I'm fairly slender, to the point I doubt KCScott will be inviting me to Lift and Steam anytime soon. RACK my genetics.

SoCalTrjn · Post by **SoCalTrjn** » Fri Nov 04, 2011 5:26 am

Scott suspended TJ McDonald for a hit that in the SEC would be a highlight reel play and a barometer of how tough their conference is. That freshman at Alabama, Hasean Clinton Dix, or something had all the honks on CBSCollege Sports taling what a great freshman player he is and then the plays they show are all shots of him hitting wideouts helmet to helmet or at least higher than the numbers. In the Pac 12 a player gets 15 yards and a suspension from the commissioner of the conference, whose only experience in sports is womens tennis.
That call on McDonald is what cost USC the game and has allowed Stanford and Luck to remain in the chase for BCS Bowls and Heisman trophies.
And can the Pac at least explain how Stanford gets called for Offensive holding on 2nd and 7 on a play that netted 1 yard and then it is 2nd and 2 on the next play instead of 2nd and 17? Holding is a 10 yard penalty, you dont move the ball 5 yards in the offenses direction and then give them the down over, especially when the hold was on an interior lineman.
A Trojan fan posted on another board that when Jay Strichers crew calls a USC game the Trojans have a 110% increase in penalties over any of the other Pac 12 officiating crews.
Larry Scott has done nothing but attempt to fuck USC since becoming Pac commissioner, USC may as well go independent if he is going to stay in charge

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