LSU and Alabama Offenses

[WolverineSteve]

Are you trying to say that the over hyped game of the century was not a complete and utter abortion ? Because you'd be wrong.

[Killian]

I'm just sayin', that if a #1 vs. #2 game was played in the Big 10 and the final score was 9-6, people would be bitching that the game set offenses back 20 years.

[M2]

Alabama and LSU wouldn't score a point on Cal... if Maynard wasn't playing QB...

[Mikey]

Two offenses averaging over 39 PPG thru 8 games were denutted by two of the second and third best defenses to ever play college football.

Amazing how the three best defenses in BTPCF history are all taking the field during the same season.

[Killian]

If it was played in the Big Ten, a 9-6 score would more likely be the result of two inept offenses, rather than due to two defenses crammed full of kids headed to the NFL.

Of course. Because the Big10 is slow, and doesn't put players into the NFL.

[M2]

Alabama and LSU wouldn't score a point on Cal... if Maynard wasn't playing QB...

We'll never know, will we? I doubt LSU or Alabama will be playing in the Poinsetta Bowl or whatever POS bowl Cal makes.

That's right...

Cal doesn't play 4 correctional schools at HOME... and 8 games at HOME.


Hell, a Pop Warner school could be bowl eligible with that schedule in the SEC.

[Goober McTuber]

4 correctional schools? Leavenwoth U? San Quentin State?

[Goober McTuber]

If it was played in the Big Ten, a 9-6 score would more likely be the result of two inept offenses, rather than due to two defenses crammed full of kids headed to the NFL.

Of course. Because the Big10 is slow, and doesn't put players into the NFL.

Not what I'm saying. The big Ten produces shitloads of good NFL players. But defenses haven't been what they used to be in that conference.

See: Alabama - 49, MSU - 7

One game. From last year. Pretty weak, Sam, even by your standards. MSU currently ranks ahead of LSU in total defense.

[M2]

We won't get into a comparison of the SEC and the PAC58.

Good idea... since Cal puts more players in the NFL than Alabama.

Not to mention... the BEST players...

1. Aaron Rodgers

2. DeSean Jackson

3. Tony Gonzales

4. Nnamdi Asomugha

5. etc.,

[Van]

MSU currently ranks ahead of LSU in total defense.

Which is all the proof anyone should ever need in order to know that such rankings are asburd. Is there a person in their right mind who thinks for one minute that MSU's defense is remotely as powerful as LSU's?

Pretty sure even Mgo would agree that that one's a farce.

[M2]

MSU currently ranks ahead of LSU in total defense.

Which is all the proof anyone should ever need in order to know that such rankings are asburd. Is there a person in their right mind who thinks for one minute that MSU's defense is remotely as powerful as LSU's?

Pretty sure even Mgo would agree that that one's a farce.

Shit for brains... Harvard would be in the top 5 in defense if they got to play SE Mississippi State 4 times a year at HOME... then play 8 homes games you fucking dipshit !!!

[Goober McTuber]

MSU currently ranks ahead of LSU in total defense.

Which is all the proof anyone should ever need in order to know that such rankings are asburd. Is there a person in their right mind who thinks for one minute that MSU's defense is remotely as powerful as LSU's?

Pretty sure even Mgo would agree that that one's a farce.

Shit for brains... Harvard would be in the top 5 in defense if they got to play SE Mississippi State 4 times a year at HOME... then play 8 homes games you fucking dipshit !!!

Hey, speaking of shit for brains...LSU has 7 home games this year, not 8. Two of their three OOC games were against ranked teams. So far, they have played and beaten 6 ranked teams, 3 of those on the road. You not too bright.

[M2]

Shit for brains... Harvard would be in the top 5 in defense if they got to play SE Mississippi State 4 times a year at HOME... then play 8 homes games you fucking dipshit !!!

SEC schools don't play Presbyterian.

No, they play teams like Clemson... which beat Wofford by 7 points.

Of course, that same Wofford team beat Presbyterian by 7 points in the last seconds.

[M2]

LSU has 7 home games this year, not 8.

Psst.. shit for brains...


Cal doesn't have a single home game this year.


How about Dem apples... retard.

[M2]

Desperation and envy are apparently permanent facets of the life of a Cal fan.

I know you southerner's ain't too bright... but, you must have missed this...

We won't get into a comparison of the SEC and the PAC58.

Good idea... since Cal puts more players in the NFL than Alabama.

Not to mention... the BEST players...

1. Aaron Rodgers

2. DeSean Jackson

3. Tony Gonzales

4. Nnamdi Asomugha

5. etc.,

[Goober McTuber]

LSU has 7 home games this year, not 8.

Cal doesn't have a single home game this year.

And that is relevant to your numerous misstatements...how?

[Goober McTuber]

TUSCALOOSA, Ala. -- If that was The Game of the Century, then I want my 100 years back.

Top-ranked LSU's 9-6 overtime win against No. 2 Alabama Saturday evening wasn't the game of the century, decade or season. I'm not even sure it was the game of the day.

So let's get this out of the way right now: These two teams deserve a BCS championship rematch like Kim Kardashian deserves to keep her wedding gifts.

I'm not saying LSU's victory suffered from drama deprivation. It didn't. It was the leading cause of gnawed-off fingernails at an electric Bryant-Denny Stadium. The edge of my press box seat was worn down by the time Drew Alleman's 25-yard game-winning field goal somersaulted through the uprights.

But was it a football classic? Close, very close, but no.

Classics don't have four interceptions, four missed field goals, 13 penalties, one fumble, one botched punt return and zero touchdowns. A punter shouldn't be the best player on the field in a classic.

Bottom line: Only a classic is worthy of a Jan. 9 rematch in New Orleans. And this wasn't one of them.

"I think the world wants a rematch, honestly," said LSU defensive end Sam Montgomery. "It would be lovely to play such a great, competitive team out there again. I think everybody wants a rematch: the media, the people, the fans."

Not me. Not when Oklahoma State, which played, hands down, the most entertaining game of the day against Kansas State, is still undefeated.

Not when Stanford, even with its recent run of injuries, hasn't lost a game.

Not when Boise State, which continues to roll along, remains unbeaten.

Not when 9-0 Houston -- OK, maybe not Houston. Yet.

Alabama had its chance. Actually, it had lots of chances to beat LSU in front of 101,821 hyper-geeked fans … at home … against a team that completed a grand total of nine passes.

Instead, the Crimson Tide did a belly flop when it mattered most. Five different times they grinded their way to the LSU 35-yard line, or closer, and five times they jogged back to the Bama sideline with zilch points.

"We still can go to the national championship," said Bama wide receiver Marquis Maze. "We're still a
national championship team. I feel like we're still the best team in the country. Anything can happen."

And Maze wasn't done. When I asked him if he thought Bama was the better of the two teams, he didn't hesitate.

"Yes, I think we're the best team in the country," he said. "I think if we played them again we wouldn't lose."

Unless Oklahoma State, Stanford and probably Boise State lose between now and the beginning of bowl season, it doesn't matter if Bama would win a rematch. Because there won't be a rematch.

You can make a case, a semi-decent one, that the Crimson Tide shouldn't be dismissed from the BCS championship equation. After all, they lost by only three points in overtime to the No. 1 team in the country.

"I think we definitely have a chance of seeing those guys again if we finish strong," said Bama wide receiver Darius Hanks, who added that the Crimson Tide were "definitely" superior to LSU.

And this from Bama linebacker Nico Johnson: "Oh, no, it's never over."

He's sort of right. TCU could beat Boise on the blue carpet Saturday. Oregon could do the same against the Cardinal at Stanford Stadium. Oklahoma could defeat Oklahoma State come Bedlam on Saturday in December. Things happen.

But it's going to take a lot of BCS gymnastics for Bama to jump back into the championship mix. I don't think it has enough room on the mat to nail the landing.

Hanks and Maze wouldn't admit it, but LSU's magnificent defense had a lot to do with making the Crimson Tide look ordinary. The Tigers do that.

But you can't miss four field goals, as Bama did Saturday evening, and expect anyone to want LSU-Bama -- The Sequel. You can't make costly penalties. You can't throw two interceptions (including one in the fourth quarter, when the Tide were already in field-goal range).

"To me, we didn't take advantage of the opportunities we had," said Alabama coach Nick Saban.

And then he recited the grocery list of missed chances. He knew.

If Saban is thinking about another crack at LSU, he wouldn't say so publicly.

"Whoever the folks are who make those decisions will make those decisions based on a full body of work of every team in the country and choose which teams are the best," he said. "I really can't speculate on a hypothetical situation. And it's really not our focus right now anyway."

Not now. But as he watches the film of this one, Saban is going to realize his team could have and probably should have beaten LSU. Bama's defense intercepted a pair of Jarrett Lee passes. It neutered the Tigers' passing attack. It held LSU to three field goals.

But it lost. And however you want to spell it, a capital L is going to be next to Bama's name.
"We can't let this loss affect us," said Hanks. "It hurts. At the same time, we've got to come out there on Monday and act like this loss never happened."

If only it were that easy. Bama's players might have short memories, but the BCS computers and voters remember everything. And they'll remember this as the night when the Crimson Tide lost their argument for a rematch.

[MgoBlue-LightSpecial]

I enjoyed the game. It was Big Ten football on steroids. I would say it was 70% suffocating defense and 30% poor offense. Neither team came into the game with a poor offense, but they also didn't step up and make plays, and take advantage of the few opportunities they did have. The opposing defenses got into their heads. One of the reasons I predicted a 14-10 type game was because I didn't feel either team had a qb capable of moving them down the field vs the other's defense. McCarron, Lee and Jefferson are good, not great quarterbacks.

[Goober McTuber]

Interesting piece, but I can find 20 columns that suggest a rematch would pair the best two teams in the country.

I'm sorry, but it's gonna happen. Y'all might as well get ready for Round 2. Stanford is going to lose to either Oregon or ND. Okie State will lose to OU. And that, my friends, is that.

The two best teams will play in New Orleans.

Bama's had their shot. I think Stanford stays unbeaten. That's the game I want to see.

[M2]

Stanford is going to lose to either Oregon or ND.

Ummm... no they won't...


They'll lose to who they always lose too...





By the way, that's the best female swimmer in the WORLD...




Cal has beaten the 'furd 8 times in the last 10 games... and it wont stop this year.

[M2]

I'll be a Cal fan that week.

I think I just made a new best friend...


By the way, the last team to beat Stanfraud at home... was, you quest it...



The Big Game...

[Mikey]

I'm sorry, but it's gonna happen. Y'all might as well get ready for Round 2. Stanford is going to lose to either Oregon or ND. Okie State will lose to OU. And that, my friends, is that.

The two best teams will play in New Orleans.

Of course, Bama sure as hell better beat Miss State and Auburn.

Don't forget Georgia Southern. I'm pretty sure their offense is rated higher than Alabama's.

[Truman]

Interesting piece, but I can find 20 columns that suggest a rematch would pair the best two teams in the country.

I'm sorry, but it's gonna happen. Y'all might as well get ready for Round 2. Stanford is going to lose to either Oregon or ND. Okie State will lose to OU. And that, my friends, is that.

The two best teams will play in New Orleans.

Of course, Bama sure as hell better beat Miss State and Auburn.

Oh hell no.

You people set offense back 70 years. I appreciate good defense as much as the next fella, but can anybody in that league actually throw a ball? Much less kick it? Some of the worst quarterback play I've seen in years. Y'all might want to raid Texas for an arm-or-three, now that A&M has provided you the bridgehead. Providence, please spare us a repeat of that a-bore-tion.

[War Wagon]

If you weren't enjoing that, you shoulda flipped over to watch the Okie State-KSU circus.

I most certainly did, and it was 10 times the more entertaining game.

You're like the doting father of a mongoloid child.

And there's nothing wrong with that, except when you start showing pictures off at work for the 10th time.

[Truman]

^^^^^^^^^^
This. I kept flipping back just to see if either side had crossed the 50 yet....

[Truman]

Shit, Truman, we just had a Texas QB (McElroy) and everyone in here belittled him. All he did was win a MNC for us.

Well, SOMEBODY had to hand the ball to Mark Ingram... BTW, the good quarterback from Southlake Carroll spent his Saturdays playing in Columbia and is now backing up Drew Brees in New Orleans.

Wonder what kind of thrower McElroy would've been had he not backed out of his commitment to Taco Tech?

[Van]

I enjoyed the game. It was Big Ten football on steroids. I would say it was 70% suffocating defense and 30% poor offense. Neither team came into the game with a poor offense, but they also didn't step up and make plays, and take advantage of the few opportunities they did have. The opposing defenses got into their heads. One of the reasons I predicted a 14-10 type game was because I didn't feel either team had a qb capable of moving them down the field vs the other's defense. McCarron, Lee and Jefferson are good, not great quarterbacks.

+1

As far as Stanford goes, I fear that injuries will prevent them from going undefeated. Even with all hands on deck Oregon might have beaten them anyway, but now they are far from being ready to finish the season at anything approaching full strength.

If they somehow get past Oregon, though, yep, barring an injury to Luck they'll run the table. They will not lose to Cal or ND if a shot at the national title game is at stake.

Besides, Cal's defense still has to give up 32 to Stanford in order to hit the 105 I set for the three-game Over/Under total in the Oregon/USC/Stanford trifecta. Does anyone see Cal holding this year's Stanford squad to 31 or less while also scoring 32 or more? I mean, other than the M2 troll's latest handler.

Anyone?

[Van]

If Arkansas beats LSU (which certainly can happen), then I believe that Alabama wins the tie breaker and would go to the SEC championship game.

This.

I think 88 must have forgotten that an Arkansas victory in Baton Rouge would create a three-way tie in the West, with each team having gone 1-1 against the other two.

Jsc, by what method does the SEC break a three-way Divisional tie? Do they go with the team ranked highest in the BCS at season's end—in which case Alabama definitely stands a chance of coming out on top—or do they go with some other method such as awarding the CCG berth to the team that had least recently been there?

[Van]

My fanatical LSU buddy tells me that the SEC uses the BCS ranking system to break three-way Divisional ties, but I was hoping you'd know for certain. Oh well. I'll try to look it up.

[buckeye_in_sc]

Why are people clamoring for a rematch of that epic baseball game but in 2006 no one wanted to see OSU v Michigan again?