Cleveland

Y2K · Post by **Y2K** » Fri Dec 09, 2011 7:28 am

Welcome to my state, what was once the best place in America has become a shithole from border to border.

Sad really.

smackaholic · Post by **smackaholic** » Fri Dec 09, 2011 11:06 am

plus, you are days away from half dome. but, at least you're not Ct.

sin

moron squared

MgoBlue-LightSpecial · Fri Dec 09, 2011 3:22 pm

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Screw_Michigan · Post by **Screw_Michigan** » Fri Dec 09, 2011 3:45 pm

At least metro Detroit is a pleasant place to live. You can't say as much about metropolitan Cleveland.

MgoBlue-LightSpecial · Fri Dec 09, 2011 4:00 pm

Screw_Michigan wrote:At least metro Detroit is a pleasant place to live. You can't say as much about metropolitan Cleveland.

True, and as shitty as Detroit is, if I was forced to spend a "weekend of fun" in either city, I would pick Detroit. And if you couldn't handle it after 24 hours you could always hop the bridge to Windsor and hang out at Leopard's and slam Exports while the strippers pluck loonies out of your mouth with their vaginas.

Screw_Michigan · Post by **Screw_Michigan** » Fri Dec 09, 2011 4:27 pm

MgoBlue-LightSpecial wrote:And if you couldn't handle it after 24 hours you could always hop the bridge the Windsor and hang out at Leopard's and slam Exports while the strippers pluck loonies out of your mouth with their vaginas.

I think that's known as...

It's really too bad Ontario fucked up the whole sports betting thing. It would have been a lot of fun to slam Canadian brews while cleaning up on NFL games.

Kansas City Kid · Post by **Kansas City Kid** » Fri Dec 09, 2011 4:53 pm

Screw_Michigan wrote:At least metro Detroit is a pleasant place to live.

Screw_Michigan · Post by **Screw_Michigan** » Fri Dec 09, 2011 5:09 pm

KC tard trying to look down upon metro Detroit will never not be funny.

Kansas City Kid · Post by **Kansas City Kid** » Fri Dec 09, 2011 5:21 pm

Everyone looks down on metro Detroit. It is the butthole of the universe.

MgoBlue-LightSpecial · Fri Dec 09, 2011 5:30 pm

Kansas City Kid wrote:
Screw_Michigan wrote:At least metro Detroit is a pleasant place to live.

You are thinking of the CITY of Detroit, moron. Metro Detroit has some very affluent areas. Oakland County in particular. You are clueless.

Screw_Michigan · Post by **Screw_Michigan** » Fri Dec 09, 2011 6:02 pm

Metro Detroit's affluent areas aren't located anywhere near the city. All those inner ring suburbs, while livable, are no longer affluent, except for perhaps the Grosse Point area.

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Fri Dec 09, 2011 6:19 pm

88 wrote:Detroit's shit hole is bigger and stinkier than any other in America that I am aware of, with Camden, NJ coming in a close second (perhaps tied with Cleveland).

Don't rule out East Bay (Oakland, Richmond, etc) -- if you look at crime statistics and other quantifiable measures of shitholeness, it's Detroit/Camden/NO with nicer weather.

As far as big cities go, I really can't bitch too much about mine. While it's a socialist utopia, you've got to search pretty hard for the "don't walk around at night" neighborhoods, it's pretty as all fuck, and the weather is usually pretty darn nice for 8-9 months out of the year.

But still, I've been going all over hell and gone for work lately, all been in the U&L, and everything going right now is in Oregon (various parts, and it's a big friggin state), and I often wonder if I wouldn't prefer getting out of the Metro. Doubt I'll ever leave Oregon, but maybe it's possible I'll leave Portland someday.

The best thing about Portland, is that it's so close to Oregon.

Moving Sale · Post by **Moving Sale** » Fri Dec 09, 2011 6:27 pm

Dinsdale wrote:the weather is usually pretty darn nice for 8-9 months out of the year.

"Annual Sunshine - The suns shines about 48% of the time. Out of a possible 267,955 minutes, Portland averaged 128,618 minutes of sunshine between 1951 and 1995."

Yuck.

I've been to Portland many times, don't kid yourself it's a gloomy shithole.

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Fri Dec 09, 2011 6:31 pm

Haven't seen so much as a cloud in at least a couple of weeks.

The fog has been lifting early in the morning.

It'll start the nonstop deluge soon, and probably last until February, at which point it will gradually turn warm and sunny... on some random schedule.

But go ahead and tell me all about the weather here, Atomic Sale.

Moving Sale · Post by **Moving Sale** » Fri Dec 09, 2011 6:44 pm

Dinsdale wrote:But go ahead and tell me all about the weather here, Atomic Sale.

I was commenting on the climate you syphilis infected dolt.

Moving Sale · Post by **Moving Sale** » Fri Dec 09, 2011 6:46 pm

88 wrote: Only 4 other major US cities have less sunshine than Cleveland (Seattle, Portland, Buffalo and Pittsburgh).

But it's sunny here today so it must be nice all the time.

Sin,
Dimsdale

Derron · Post by **Derron** » Fri Dec 09, 2011 7:19 pm

Moving Bowels wrote:
Dinsdale wrote:But go ahead and tell me all about the weather here, Atomic Sale.
I was commenting on the climate you syphilis infected dolt.

You did have to show up today and harsh everybody's Friday feeling.

You really are the dumbest mother fucker on here. If anybody is syphilis infected it is both your pie hole and your ass hole, since both get plungered on a regular basis.

Now shut your dick sucker and go away.

Derron · Post by **Derron** » Fri Dec 09, 2011 7:23 pm

Yeah..real gloomy today.

Atomic Punk · Post by **Atomic Punk** » Fri Dec 09, 2011 7:57 pm

Atomic Sale? hahaha now that's funny.

88, if you're looking to move West then where? CA is a financial mess but a nice place to live if you're on the coast or in the hills. Oregon? They don't like transplants and Portland is actually decent in the areas I've been. Great food and strippers.

Texas? Well, no state taxes and my friends from there keep wanting me to move there as they say I'm a misplaced Texan. Florida is pretty decent and no state taxes. It just depends where you would live. Where Jsc lives is a beautiful area around Baton Rouge, LA.

Me? Pismo Beach, CA is where I plan on going in the future. Nearby Fresno metro sucks ass and this valley blows. Only good thing is Pat Hill got fired. Hope that helps.

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Fri Dec 09, 2011 8:11 pm

Atomic Punk wrote:Oregon? They don't like transplants and Portland is actually decent in the areas I've been.

Since Portland is about 98% transplants, this is probably inaccurate.

About the same where I've been staying on the coast.

The inland redneck zones (vast majority of the state)... not big transplant fans.

Screw_Michigan · Post by **Screw_Michigan** » Fri Dec 09, 2011 8:16 pm

88 and family should retire to Athens......Ohio.

Atomic Punk · Post by **Atomic Punk** » Fri Dec 09, 2011 8:17 pm

Well Dins, now that I remember... I was with a stripper friend up there and Portland was cool to me. I didn't know that there were that many transplants there other than culinary school students. There are people from Central Cal that moved up to the 'neck areas and said they weren't much appreciated. I've heard that from everyone that left here to move up there and they hate transplants in Oregon.

Terry in Crapchester · Fri Dec 09, 2011 8:22 pm

Atomic Punk wrote:88, if you're looking to move West then where?

. . .

Florida is pretty decent and no state taxes.

Naah, too easy.

Atomic Punk · Post by **Atomic Punk** » Fri Dec 09, 2011 8:29 pm

Terry, you know what is too easy? It's you when you take the seizure helmet off.

Notice I was talking about different desirable places in the country? You took my take out of context. Not surprising coming from a dimwit like yourself.

MgoBlue-LightSpecial · Fri Dec 09, 2011 9:24 pm

Atomic Punk wrote:Notice I was talking about different desirable places in the country? You took my take out of context.

He didn't take anything out of context. You mentioned Florida as a possible destination spot for 88, even though he specifically said he wants to go out West. Don't over complicate things -- you really are this fucking stupid. This is no different than the time 88 said he didn't have time to coach football anymore, and you chimed in with suggestions on how he could make coaching more fun. You are not capable of following a specific discussion because you are in a drunken, clueless stupor 24/7.

Atomic Punk · Post by **Atomic Punk** » Fri Dec 09, 2011 9:35 pm

Hey, look... Mgbl0w shows up. Small penis syndrome? Are you the closet Zyclone? I know he said West but I was giving ideas for other desirable places to live you ankle biting little twat. You're following me in every fucking thread in every forum now. Are you a chick?

MgoBlue-LightSpecial · Fri Dec 09, 2011 9:43 pm

What in the fuck are you babbling about?

Just...never mind.

ucantdoitdoggieSTyle2 · Fri Dec 09, 2011 9:47 pm

Ya know... if 88 keeps heading west, he could eventually end up in FLA.

Sin,
AP

Btw -- only a complete moron would claim to have a stripper as a friend. Strippers are disposable items much the the coke you inhale off of their oversized tits. Anyone who claims to have a stripper as a friend is a complete moron who is just another sucker being used. Strippers are fucktoys with a one-night shelf life. After that, they are to be tossed aside. Nothing more, nothing less. They are not your "friend."

mvscal · Post by **mvscal** » Fri Dec 09, 2011 9:57 pm

88 wrote:I'm going to head west, my friends. Not sure how far. But I'm getting the fuck out of here.

Take it all the way. The central coast region of California is definitely God's Country. My folks live in the Five Cities. It's the perfect mix of rural/semi-urban artisan style living. The scenery is drop dead gorgeous and no shortage of locations for memorable day trips that will leave the missus dripping.

Atomic Punk · Post by **Atomic Punk** » Fri Dec 09, 2011 10:02 pm

ucantdoitdoggieSTyle2 wrote: the the

Johnny Marr from the Smiths was a great addition to the band.

ucunt, you seem defensive about having stripper friends. I'm guessing you couldn't get laid in a morgue. BTW, I stayed with said stripper in Portland the last time I was there. We met in San Diego at a party and she invited me to stay over the next time I went up there. Many are lesbians but she was cool.

You have issues with women don't you? You work out to compensate for your "inadequacies." Yep, it's okay. Let it out and scream away.

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Fri Dec 09, 2011 10:03 pm

mvscal wrote:
88 wrote:I'm going to head west, my friends. Not sure how far. But I'm getting the fuck out of here.
Take it all the way. The central coast region of California is definitely God's Country. My folks live in the Five Cities. It's the perfect mix of rural/semi-urban artisan style living. The scenery is drop dead gorgeous and no shortage of locations for memorable day trips that will leave the missus dripping.

With 88's obvious love of paying high taxes and supporting freeloaders, california is a no-brainer for him.

Not that Oregon and Warshington are much better... guess the Left Coast is out.

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Fri Dec 09, 2011 10:07 pm

Atomic Punk wrote: Johnny Marr from the Smiths was a great addition to the band.

The chick I was just sitting next to, until I drove her out of the room with my farts, has an old friend who played with them... fascinating stuff.

Johnny Marr is now a Portland transplant, and he was a great addition to Modest Mouse.

4 years now... I think that's a Johnny Marr record for holding down a job.

ucantdoitdoggieSTyle2 · Fri Dec 09, 2011 10:08 pm

Atomic Punk wrote:You have issues with women don't you?

I married one. You dress like one.

Who the fuck has issues here? :doh:

MgoBlue-LightSpecial · Fri Dec 09, 2011 10:12 pm

Dinsdale wrote:4 years now... I think that's a Johnny Marr record for holding down a job.

~slowly backs out of thread~

-AP

mvscal · Post by **mvscal** » Fri Dec 09, 2011 10:15 pm

Dinsdale wrote:With 88's obvious love of paying high taxes and supporting freeloaders, california is a no-brainer for him.

There are considerable compensations. You've got wine country, mind blowing costal vistas, some of the best produce on earth, great weather etc. etc.

The central coast is most definitely an area to consider for a reasonably well heeled lawyer.

Van · Post by **Van** » Fri Dec 09, 2011 10:39 pm

mvscal wrote:
88 wrote:I'm going to head west, my friends. Not sure how far. But I'm getting the fuck out of here.
Take it all the way. The central coast region of California is definitely God's Country. My folks live in the Five Cities. It's the perfect mix of rural/semi-urban artisan style living. The scenery is drop dead gorgeous and no shortage of locations for memorable day trips that will leave the missus dripping.

+ 1000

Many of you people have no idea exactly how spot-on this advice is.

In a very different vein—although it may not be much of an issue to a wealthy guy who's spent many years in snowy climes—practically anywhere on the Nevada side of Lake Tahoe would be one helluva choice. Saves some of those niggling $$ issues that come with living on the California side.

Dr_Phibes · Post by **Dr_Phibes** » Fri Dec 09, 2011 10:55 pm

88 wrote: But Cleveland sucks. The basketball team sucks. The baseball team sucks. The foobtall team sucks on levels that cannot be imagined. We do not have professional hockey (and why should we? they would suck too).

Cleveland is rotting like road kill on the side of the road. Manufacturing left years ago. The downtown office buildings are empty. There are a few decent restaurants. But you've got to be hungry and brave to hang out there beyond 10 p.m.

Sound weird, but I love Buffalo for all those reasons, I'm down there like a shot for any excuse. That was a proud city, give me any place on the Great Lakes, you can't beat the atmosphere as there's nobility in suffering.

mvscal · Post by **mvscal** » Fri Dec 09, 2011 11:12 pm

Van wrote:
mvscal wrote:
88 wrote:I'm going to head west, my friends. Not sure how far. But I'm getting the fuck out of here.
Take it all the way. The central coast region of California is definitely God's Country. My folks live in the Five Cities. It's the perfect mix of rural/semi-urban artisan style living. The scenery is drop dead gorgeous and no shortage of locations for memorable day trips that will leave the missus dripping.
+ 1000

Many of you people have no idea exactly how spot-on this advice is.

[wringinghands] Oh, but you have to support freeloaders!! [/wringinghands]

Plus, if I'm not mistaken, 88 enjoys golfing. Here's another shot of Morro Bay w/golf course.

Of course, Pismo Beach isn't bad either...

smackaholic · Post by **smackaholic** » Fri Dec 09, 2011 11:18 pm

KC Scott wrote:88 - I think you have another 1-2 year window with real estate bottoming if you're serious about getting out of Cleveland. Some areas like Arizona, Nevada & Florida (sup' AP) are going to be depressed beyond that time frame.

I've been to every state except Alaska and Maine - My choices when we finally move would be Colorado, SE Tennessee or San Diego

Colorado would be my first choice, but the wife doesn't want to deal with winters, even though we both love to Ski. I think the cost of living is too high in San Diego, though it wins out as most the beautiful area - which leaves The Smokey Mountains as the most probable choice. It's gorgeous country - and great for hunting/fishing. Knoxville is a great city - very clean - the exact opposite of Memphis shithole. It's the capital and UT is also there. For those interested there's also no state income tax in TN

I will rack every bit of this post other than that bit about knoxville being the capital. I lived in Nashville for 3 years, which was the capital, during the nineties, anyway.

BTW, do consider Nashville. Not quite as pretty as Knoxville, but, a great place anyhoo. Would still be there if the damn OL didn't drag me back to Ct. Also, if live music is your thing, Nashville is the best place on the planet to find it. Can't swing a dead cat without hitting at least a half dozen world class musicians.

Places on my list of nice places to live are the SW, particularly NM or AZ, although, I would rather it be northern AZ. Phoenix is just too damn hot. UT or CO would be nice as well.

MgoBlue-LightSpecial · Fri Dec 09, 2011 11:20 pm

Atomic Punk wrote:ucunt, you seem defensive about having stripper friends.

He is, nevertheless, 100% correct. I cannot fathom a single reason any man would have for befriending a stripper outside of loneliness or desperation.