most under rated band ever

Bizzarofelice · Post by **Bizzarofelice** » Fri Apr 20, 2012 12:42 am

bradhusker wrote:My overall taste in music is exemplery, I can pick out just one pearl from my collection, and we can do years of study on it alone.

Meatloaf "BAT OUT OF HELL" 1977.

I really hate that album.

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Fri Apr 20, 2012 1:47 am

bradhusker wrote:
BSmack wrote:
bradhusker wrote:Say what you will, BUT, back in 1977, this album took people away from the real horrors of the summer of sam.
Unless you lived in NYC, there was no "Summer of Sam."
I guess you havent beeen on this board for the last 12 years, Im New York City born and raised you neanderthal.

That certainly explains your inability to get along with people.

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Fri Apr 20, 2012 2:09 am

Bizzarofelice wrote:
bradhusker wrote: Meatloaf "BAT OUT OF HELL" 1977.

I really hate that album.

Fuck yourself. Easily one of the best albums ever made.

Todd Rundgren at his minipulative best, using everyone in his path for his own whims. Stole that fucker right out from under Mr. Loaf.

bradhusker · Post by **bradhusker** » Fri Apr 20, 2012 11:50 am

Unless you lived in NYC, there was no "Summer of Sam."[/quote]

I guess you havent beeen on this board for the last 12 years, Im New York City born and raised you neanderthal.[/quote]

That certainly explains your inability to get along with people.[/quote]

I might come across as cold, uncaring and aloof, but in reality, Im a very loving, caring and affectionate individual. Once you break thru that hard shell, im really a "salt of the earth" kinda guy.

bradhusker · Post by **bradhusker** » Fri Apr 20, 2012 12:11 pm

Bizzarofelice wrote:
bradhusker wrote:My overall taste in music is exemplery, I can pick out just one pearl from my collection, and we can do years of study on it alone.

Meatloaf "BAT OUT OF HELL" 1977.

I really hate that album.

From my un-biased view, "BAT OUT OF HELL" is a "MASTERWORK". It is a rock n roll tour de force.
It has all the elements you need for a CLASSIC. Stinging, piercing high ass vocals, Bombastic BALLSY cocksure attitude, DEMONIC themes with the DEVIL himself into the details. Sexy Italian babes dripping with sex!! Layers of ROCK GUITARS with electrifying riffs!!! Every song tells the story of young nubile teenage lust. The entire album grabs you by the throat and balls, and never lets go for a second!!
The lyrics by Jim Steinmann are all at once poetic and IN YOUR FACE. Meatloaf HIMSELF is a 300 pound ball of sweat drugs and rock n roll. His SOUL is on FULL display here and its Jaw Dropping!!
This is a rock opera with demonic elements, make no mistake here, This is a testosterone-filled tale of teenaged angst and rage, hormones out of control, OVER THE TOP!!!!

MEAT was at the top of his game here. NEVER again would he be able to hit such highs with screaming clarity, This was his zenith, his BEST, his machismo, his balls on full display for all the world to see. Its a perfect record in every way shape and form.

Goober McTuber · Post by **Goober McTuber** » Fri Apr 20, 2012 1:51 pm

Dinsdale wrote:
Bizzarofelice wrote:
bradhusker wrote: Meatloaf "BAT OUT OF HELL" 1977.

I really hate that album.

Fuck yourself. Easily one of the best albums ever made.

Todd Rundgren at his minipulative best, using everyone in his path for his own whims. Stole that fucker right out from under Mr. Loaf.

Stole? Nonsense, it was bought and paid for. The album wouldn’t have gotten made without Todd Rundgren. Here's an interesting interview with Jim Steinman (Bat Out of Hell songwriter):

http://www.carpe-jugulum.com/steinman/batinterview.html

VH1: Did he (Todd Rundgren) think your idea for the motorcycle sound on "Bat Out Of Hell" was a bad idea?

Steinman: We had that whole song down and it was brilliant. I think Todd felt it was all over. But I was like, "Where's the motorcycle?" He says, "Oh, you want a motorcycle. A thousand background vocals, a million guitar solos, a ten-minute song...and you want a motorcycle." "Yeah, I want a motorcycle. Do you have motorcycle sound effects?" He says, "No. I'll do it with my guitar." He went over to his guitar rack and said, "Let's see, motorcycle...here we go." He goes, "I forgot to ask you. Is it a Yamaha, a Kawasaki, or a Harley Davidson?" I said, "Harley-Davidson." "I thought so. Why did I even ask?" He goes and adjusts three buttons on his guitar rack and did the motorcycle with his guitar. You hear it rev up, you hear the motor, you hear the fire coming out of it, and you hear it do a wheelie. I thought he was going to stop for gas.

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Fri Apr 20, 2012 3:08 pm

Sudden Sam wrote:Ellen Foley is the only reason I could possibly see to own 'Bat Out of Hell'. And that ain't nearly enough reason.

Maybe I'm missing something, but i can't listen to any of that album.

I have some fond memories of slow dancing to Two Out Of Three Ain't bad at a Jr. High dance back in the day. But that's about it. It's not as horrible as people make it out to be, but the wankers that insist on playing it to death have ruined it for the rest of us.

bradhusker · Post by **bradhusker** » Fri Apr 20, 2012 7:35 pm

Goober, stay outta this, what could a dumb hick from wisconsin POSSIBLY know about music?

BAT OUT OF HELL is a bombastic "tour de force" of unadulterrated pure adrennaline filled rock n' roll.
PURE testosterone cock and balls IN YOUR FACE, bad to the bone BAD ASS ROCK N" ROLL!!!

ANYONE who doesnt understand it, fails to get it? Chances are? YOUR A FAG! AND, that means you like Elton John and mary J blige, cause you are a dick slurping cum guzzling fruit.

BAT OUT OF HELL is for REAL ROCKERS!!! Anyone who still doesnt get it? Go to the gay forums.

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Fri Apr 20, 2012 7:49 pm

bradhusker wrote:I might come across as cold, uncaring and aloof, but in reality, Im a very loving, caring and affectionate individual. Once you break thru that hard shell, im really a "salt of the earth" kinda guy.

More like salt in an open wound for those of us reading.

Shlomart Ben Yisrael · Fri Apr 20, 2012 8:04 pm

bradhusker wrote:Anyone who still doesnt get it? Go to the gay forums.

"Gay forum? This place has a gay forum? Just out of curiosity's sake where would this gay forum be?"

Sincerely..................

Okay...I've decided NOT to complete this post. After some consideration, I've decided that certain matters must be left undisturbed. Fences have been mended. FENCES HAVE BEEN MENDED, PEOPLE!

bradhusker · Post by **bradhusker** » Fri Apr 20, 2012 8:13 pm

Martyred wrote:
bradhusker wrote:Anyone who still doesnt get it? Go to the gay forums.

"Gay forum? This place has a gay forum? Just out of curiosity's sake where would this gay forum be?"

Sincerely..................

Okay...I've decided NOT to complete this post. After some consideration, I've decided that certain matters must be left undisturbed. Fences have been mended. FENCES HAVE BEEN MENDED, PEOPLE!

If im not mistaken, that particular forum should be sandwiched between goobers ass cheeks. OBVIOUSLY ive never been anywhere near there, nor would I ever consider going in the future. You'll have to venture over there on your own accord.

MiketheangrydrunkenCUfan · Sat Apr 21, 2012 8:08 am

Neil Diamond > Meat Loaf

bradhusker · Post by **bradhusker** » Sat Apr 21, 2012 2:19 pm

MiketheangrydrunkenCUfan wrote:Neil Diamond > Meat Loaf

ok, ive got that beat.

Jesus Christ Superstar > Les Miserables
Mitt Romney > Barack Obama
Straight > Gay
Nebraska > Colorado
G Zimmermann > T Martin
Me > you

Goober McTuber · Post by **Goober McTuber** » Mon Apr 23, 2012 1:04 pm

MiketheangrydrunkenCUfan wrote:Neil Diamond

From the wikipedia entry on The Last Waltz:

Neil Diamond was next, introducing his "Dry Your Eyes" by saying, "I'm only gonna do one song, but I'm gonna do it good." Robertson had also produced Diamond's album Beautiful Noise the same year and co-wrote "Dry Your Eyes," which during the concert he hailed as a "great song." In his autobiography, Levon Helm was critical of the inclusion of Diamond, not discerning any musical connection to The Band. Reportedly, when Diamond came off stage he remarked to Dylan, "Follow that," to which Dylan responded, "What do I have to do, go on stage and fall asleep?"

MgoBlue-LightSpecial · Mon Apr 23, 2012 4:08 pm

MiketheangrydrunkenCUfan wrote:Neil Diamond > Meat Loaf

A blank CD > Meat Loaf

MiketheangrydrunkenCUfan · Mon Apr 23, 2012 5:21 pm

MgoBlue-LightSpecial wrote:
MiketheangrydrunkenCUfan wrote:Neil Diamond > Meat Loaf
A blank CD > Neil Diamond > Meat Loaf

Fixed.

bradhusker · Post by **bradhusker** » Tue Apr 24, 2012 7:29 am

MgoBlue-LightSpecial wrote:
MiketheangrydrunkenCUfan wrote:Neil Diamond > Meat Loaf
A blank CD > Meat Loaf

Considering the fact that "Bat out of Hell" is widely considered a "masterwork" in the annals of Rock history, it is very telling that you MgoBlue would prefer a blank CD. VERY TELLING indeed.

MgoBlue-LightSpecial · Tue Apr 24, 2012 2:33 pm

What it tells is that, unlike your sorry sheltered ass, I don't need a bunch of pencil neck geeks at Rolling Stone to heap praise on someone before I decide I can like them.

bradhusker · Post by **bradhusker** » Tue Apr 24, 2012 8:21 pm

MgoBlue-LightSpecial wrote:What it tells is that, unlike your sorry sheltered ass, I don't need a bunch of pencil neck geeks at Rolling Stone to heap praise on someone before I decide I can like them.

Just so you know Mgo, I was a pimply faced teenager filled with angst and lust 24/7 when that album came out, I'd be walking around with a raging hard-on for hours on end. THEN this bombastic TOUR DE FORCE hits the airwaves!!! AND BAMMM!!! Suddenly this teenaged nobody went from nothing, to a hard core leather jacket, chain smoking greaser, fucking hot chicks left and right, SUDDENLY, on a hot summer night, I BECAME A WOLF WITH RED ROSES!!! Young nubile chicks were offering their soft supple throats to me!!!

SO dont give me shit about rolling stone motherfucker, SHIT, I didnt have to read some critics take, I LIVED IT!!!! I felt the demonic presence of filthy vile creatures emerging from the pits of hell, TO FUCK HOT CHICKS and KICK SOME SERIOUS ASS!!!!

NOW, some 30 plus years later, I can look back, read the great reviews of that album and revel in the fact that I knew the greatness of that rock n roll record before ANY critic put pen to paper.

Sorry you dont feel the same Mgo, Maybe you dont have the testosterone flowing thru you like I do.
WHO KNOWS? ALL I can tell you is, LIKE IT OR NOT, that CLASSIC RECORD PUNCHES YOU IN THE FACE!!! KICKS YOUR NEERDY ASS!!!!

Bizzarofelice · Post by **Bizzarofelice** » Tue Apr 24, 2012 11:30 pm

bradhusker wrote:
MgoBlue-LightSpecial wrote:What it tells is that, unlike your sorry sheltered ass, I don't need a bunch of pencil neck geeks at Rolling Stone to heap praise on someone before I decide I can like them.
Just so you know Mgo, I was a pimply faced teenager filled with angst and lust 24/7 when that album came out, I'd be walking around with a raging hard-on for hours on end. THEN this bombastic TOUR DE FORCE hits the airwaves!!! AND BAMMM!!! Suddenly this teenaged nobody went from nothing, to a hard core leather jacket, chain smoking greaser, fucking hot chicks left and right, SUDDENLY, on a hot summer night, I BECAME A WOLF WITH RED ROSES!!! Young nubile chicks were offering their soft supple throats to me!!!

SO dont give me shit about rolling stone motherfucker, SHIT, I didnt have to read some critics take, I LIVED IT!!!! I felt the demonic presence of filthy vile creatures emerging from the pits of hell, TO FUCK HOT CHICKS and KICK SOME SERIOUS ASS!!!!

NOW, some 30 plus years later, I can look back, read the great reviews of that album and revel in the fact that I knew the greatness of that rock n roll record before ANY critic put pen to paper.

Sorry you dont feel the same Mgo, Maybe you dont have the testosterone flowing thru you like I do.
WHO KNOWS? ALL I can tell you is, LIKE IT OR NOT, that CLASSIC RECORD PUNCHES YOU IN THE FACE!!! KICKS YOUR NEERDY ASS!!!!

whole lotta words. i didn't read a single one.

bradhusker · Post by **bradhusker** » Wed Apr 25, 2012 6:52 am

Bizzarofelice wrote:
bradhusker wrote:
MgoBlue-LightSpecial wrote:What it tells is that, unlike your sorry sheltered ass, I don't need a bunch of pencil neck geeks at Rolling Stone to heap praise on someone before I decide I can like them.
Just so you know Mgo, I was a pimply faced teenager filled with angst and lust 24/7 when that album came out, I'd be walking around with a raging hard-on for hours on end. THEN this bombastic TOUR DE FORCE hits the airwaves!!! AND BAMMM!!! Suddenly this teenaged nobody went from nothing, to a hard core leather jacket, chain smoking greaser, fucking hot chicks left and right, SUDDENLY, on a hot summer night, I BECAME A WOLF WITH RED ROSES!!! Young nubile chicks were offering their soft supple throats to me!!!

SO dont give me shit about rolling stone motherfucker, SHIT, I didnt have to read some critics take, I LIVED IT!!!! I felt the demonic presence of filthy vile creatures emerging from the pits of hell, TO FUCK HOT CHICKS and KICK SOME SERIOUS ASS!!!!

NOW, some 30 plus years later, I can look back, read the great reviews of that album and revel in the fact that I knew the greatness of that rock n roll record before ANY critic put pen to paper.

Sorry you dont feel the same Mgo, Maybe you dont have the testosterone flowing thru you like I do.
WHO KNOWS? ALL I can tell you is, LIKE IT OR NOT, that CLASSIC RECORD PUNCHES YOU IN THE FACE!!! KICKS YOUR NEERDY ASS!!!!

whole lotta words. i didn't read a single one.

can you read, I wonder?

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Wed Apr 25, 2012 3:39 pm

I saw Meatloaf play ~~TKE Springfest~~ a keg party at SUNY Oswego. Tickets were 10 dollars for all the beer you could drink all day. I wasn't very impressed with his act. If I want to see ugly skanks rubbing up fat guys who can sing, I can go to karaoke night any night of the week and see that.

bradhusker · Post by **bradhusker** » Wed Apr 25, 2012 7:56 pm

Sudden Sam wrote:Hey! Everyone read the title of this thread and get it back on track.

Meat Loaf is far from under-rated. Maybe the most over-rated pile o' shit in recording history...not under-rated.

Let's get back on track and talk about music...not commercial pap.

SAM, "Bat Out Of Hell" is NOT commercial pap. It is a classic Rock Opera, IF you would like an example of commercial pap, just look at todays' garbage.

If I may be so bold, If I didnt bring up the fact that "Bat" was considered a classic record, you and most others on this board, would have indeed written it off as commercial pap.

HENCE the topic of this thread, "UNDER-RATED". My point exactly. thank you very much.

Shlomart Ben Yisrael · Wed Apr 25, 2012 10:04 pm

meatloaf > tuna casserole > pot roast

Goober McTuber · Post by **Goober McTuber** » Thu Apr 26, 2012 12:53 am

Martyred wrote:meatloaf > tuna casserole > pot roast

Another shit-for-taste Canuck. Have another bucket of poutine, you credulous tard.

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Thu Apr 26, 2012 12:55 am

If it makes you guys feel any better, my adoration of Bat Out Of Hell has been tempered a bit by the fact Brad likes it.

War Wagon · Post by **War Wagon** » Thu Apr 26, 2012 3:03 am

Sudden Sam wrote:Let's get back on track and talk about music...

If you insist.

This band is really good and this guy can really sing.

The sparkle in your eyes
Keeps me alive

Bizzarofelice · Post by **Bizzarofelice** » Thu Apr 26, 2012 3:05 am

got so pissed when I heard that song on a super bowl commercial.

saw the cult touring behind their sonic temple album. everything shook. my liver was vibrating. loud.

Goober McTuber · Post by **Goober McTuber** » Thu Apr 26, 2012 3:12 am

Dinsdale wrote:If it makes you guys feel any better, my adoration of Bat Out Of Hell has been tempered a bit by the fact Brad likes it.

Brad who?

Screw_Michigan · Post by **Screw_Michigan** » Thu Apr 26, 2012 10:44 am

BSmack wrote:I saw Meatloaf play ~~TKE Springfest~~ a keg party at SUNY Oswego. Tickets were 10 dollars for all the beer you could drink all day.

In your college days that was like $30 now, right?

PS...she sells sanctuary is a terrible song.

War Wagon · Post by **War Wagon** » Fri Apr 27, 2012 1:10 am

Screw_Michigan wrote: she sells sanctuary is a terrible song.

What?

I guess this means we can scratch Fire Woman off your list of favorites as well.

MiketheangrydrunkenCUfan · Fri Apr 27, 2012 5:12 am

Sudden Sam wrote:Hey! Everyone read the title of this thread and get it back on track.

Fair enough. Here's a criminally underrated Japanese band that is playing here in early June. All their songs are about serial killers. Pretty stoked to see them in a small club.

bradhusker · Post by **bradhusker** » Fri Apr 27, 2012 12:27 pm

Goober McTuber wrote:
Dinsdale wrote:If it makes you guys feel any better, my adoration of Bat Out Of Hell has been tempered a bit by the fact Brad likes it.
Brad who?

Brad who? It seems that Goob the dickless one, has a self-inflated image of himself. GOOBFAG, if I left this board tomorrow, the mods would search high and low for a substitute to my candor, frankness, and timely wit. Consequently, if you were to leave this board tomorrow, due to HIV, no one would barely bat an eyelash. HOW DO YOU ACCOUNT FOR THIS??

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Fri Apr 27, 2012 9:10 pm

Screw_Michigan wrote:
BSmack wrote:I saw Meatloaf play ~~TKE Springfest~~ a keg party at SUNY Oswego. Tickets were 10 dollars for all the beer you could drink all day.
In your college days that was like $30 now, right?

More like 20-25 bucks. But it was worth it despite Meatloaf and his band of rejects.

Dr_Phibes · Post by **Dr_Phibes** » Sat Apr 28, 2012 3:34 am

Wags = Love And Rockets

Bizzarofelice · Post by **Bizzarofelice** » Tue May 01, 2012 2:48 am

in high school i loved the pixies.

didn't see them as they toured behind bossanova because love and rockets was the headliner and I really didn't like love and rockets.

Dr_Phibes · Post by **Dr_Phibes** » Tue May 01, 2012 4:35 am

I'm trying to think of anyone who likes them and I can't. They punched way above their weight with Yin and Yang, it's the goth? alternative? equivalent of Time by the Chambers Brothers.

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Tue May 01, 2012 5:36 pm

Goober McTuber wrote:
Dinsdale wrote:If it makes you guys feel any better, my adoration of Bat Out Of Hell has been tempered a bit by the fact Brad likes it.
Brad who?

Bradsooners.

Only L&R tune I ever gave much thought to:

Van · Post by **Van** » Fri May 04, 2012 5:24 am

MiketheangrydrunkenCUfan wrote:Van,
Have you even heard Built to Spill?

Yes, I have. After hearing B Smack and Smackie play them on their radio shows and after hearing a few of the guys in Chat raving about them, I took part of a day a few weeks ago to sit down and listen to as many clips of them as I could find.

Suffice it to say, anyone who would mention them in the same breath as Zeppelin or Pink Floyd on any level is not only completely lacking in any sort of historical perspective, they're also musically clueless.

:grin:

Seriously, the only way someone coud mention them alongside Zeppelin or Flyd would simply be as part of a list of their favorite bands. That's it. Otherwise, they don't merit another mention, in any regard.

Anyone who likes Zeppelin and/or Floyd (and hasn't convinced themselves that great music stopped being made 30+ years ago) might actually find a lot to like in BtS.

Such as? Would it be the horrible, nonmusical vocals? The awful guitar solos? The thin, lifeless tone?

What? Tell me something about them that is remarkable, much less on a level with a Zeppelin or Floyd.

I don't think BSmack was placing them on the same iconic pedestal as LZ or PF, but you could certainly trace their roots/influences back to those bands.

Hardly. Their stated influences are a million miles away from bands like Zep and Floyd. They're all indie rock bands that don't possess a scintilla of the musical talent or ambition of Zep/Floyd.

It's far less ludicrous than comparing BtS to tripe like the Go-Gos and Neil Diamond.

They're just as far removed from Zep as they are from Neil Diamond.

Rule of thumb: whenever you accidentally find yourself in agreement with brad, it's time to reevaluate your position...

Not this time. Broken clock, and all that. He's merely arguing that water is wet. Hard to fault him for that, at least where the Zep/Floyd vs BtS comparisons are concerned.

And in regards to B Smack's speculation that I require music to be note-perfect and dead-nuts precise before I'll like it, well, that's absurd. First and foremost I'm into blues, a genre that doesn't exactly demand precise, be-bop levels of consistent perfection. Page was hardly Mister Note Perfect, and for the most part I always loved his playing.

What I do require, though, is passion. Listening to BtS, I hear snarky, sneering affectation, not real musical passion. I hear music that comes from the cynical brain, from the front of a doodled-on PeeChee folder, not from an enflamed heart.

I don't subscribe to the indie music fan's whine that technically advanced music lacks passion, which is their usual lament. It's not simple math, which is their oft-stated claim. Nonsense. In order to create such things, a lifetime of passion went into it. In order to execute those same things, blood and sweat are poured into every note. Those things don't just happen.

Goober McTuber · Post by **Goober McTuber** » Fri May 04, 2012 1:17 pm

Van wrote:Seriously, the only way someone coud mention them alongside Zeppelin or Floyd would simply be as a group of guys qualified to do their soundchecks.

FTFY.