interesting

[poptart]

MANY MULTIPLE graphics experts have put reputations on the line declaring the form to be a very poor forgery, Felix.

This is FACT.

Do your own research.

FOX NEWS would do almost anything to call obama's legitimacy into question?

LMAO!

You seriously don't have a clue.

FAUX NEWS has gone out of it's way to avoid this issue.

some idiot birther requesting a new copy of a document that's already been produced is not a "legitimate reason"....

Once again totally clueless.

The Sec of State is verifying that candidates who go on his ballot have credentials to BE on the ballot.

It's perfectly reasonable to ask for Hawaii to simply verify that they have his BC.

And no, the document has NEVER been produced, you ridiculous pinhead.



The selective service card forgery has NOT been shown to be legit, don't lie.

It's a blatant fake, guy.

Seriously, look into these matters just a little bit before you continue to post things which will later rise up to make you look dumber than you already do.

[poptart]

And a Sheriff's investigation is not something a Dept. of Health ought to snub their nose at and ignore, is it?

It is, if he's not "investigating" a crime committed in Maricopa County, Arizona.

He's not?

You sure?

Were the people of Maricopa County not part of the U.S. citizenry who were defrauded when Barry stood in front of the nation and declared that the document he presented was legit?

Have the people of Maricopa County not been hosed by having an illegal president the last 3+ years?


You very dumb.

[poptart]

Of course she's lying

Obviously.

Barry has lied, fabricated, vigorously hid tracks, sealed records, etc., but it was a matter of time until something caught up with him which would be very difficult to worm around - if not ruin him completely.

He is a very pitiful man.

[Shlomart Ben Yisrael]

That went uncorrected through numerous printings over the course of sixteen years? I don't think so.

so you say she's lying....

Of course she's lying, you thick twat. They printed the material exactly as given from Barry. That's why it remained unchanged through numerous revisions until he decided to run for President. What author doesn't review the information in his bio for 16 years?

And, like it or not, these fraudulent, constantly shifting details surrounding his personal narrative are an "ISSUE." Oh, by the way, he wasn't a "financial journalist and editor for Business International Corporation" either. He was a cubicle drone checking copy and stuffing binders.

I thought you jumped off the Birther bandwagon?

You're back on?

[Felix]

MANY MULTIPLE graphics experts have put reputations on the line declaring the form to be a very poor forgery, Felix.

This is FACT.

Do your own research.

sorry, outrageous claims require extraordinary proof....list the experts and lets see how their credentials stack up.....

You seriously don't have a clue.

FAUX NEWS has gone out of it's way to avoid this issue.

yeah because clearly their in the tank for obama....jeez bud, I thought I asked you to do some thinking for yourself...instead you post links to worldnetdaily articles....yeah, I can see exactly how much reasoned thinking you've put into this....give me just one story from a legitimate news source....

The Sec of State is verifying that candidates who go on his ballot have credentials to BE on the ballot.

It's perfectly reasonable to ask for Hawaii to simply verify that they have his BC.

And no, the document has NEVER been produced, you ridiculous pinhead.

both the director of the state health department, and the registrar of vital statistic have verified the health department holds the original birth certificate....what is it that you or the AZ sec of state want?

as I pointed out to you (and you seemed to ignore) by HAWAIIAN STATUTE THEY CAN'T RELEASE RECORDS WITHOUT A LAWFUL REASON....in other words, they are going to need either a hawaiian judge, or a federal judge to grant the AZ SOS access to the records...sorry, I know that's not the answer you're looking for but that's the only answer you're going to get....and if he tries to prevent obama's name from going on the AZ ballot, he'll be hit with an injunction in less time than it takes you to tie your shoes...

I've got $20 says obama is on the AZ ballot and the state of hawaii will continue to tell the SOS to pound sand....you want to bet on it?

The selective service card forgery has NOT been shown to be legit, don't lie.

It's a blatant fake, guy.

man where does obama get the time to run the country....dealing with all these forgeries and coercing state and federal employees to hide all of this stuff would be a full time job in and of itself....

if Crazy Joe wants obama's selective service records, he's going to have to find a federal judge to sign off on that....of course, if he were to take it to a federal judge, he'd be laughed out of court....instead, he tries to get less cognitively reasoned people in a tizzy about it....

but I will commend him on one thing....his ability to get the wingnut brigade in full tinfoil mode....

[poptart]

outrageous claims require extraordinary proof

The outrageous claim is that the piece of paper Barry handed out last April is legit.

You just happen to be a very gullible fool.

As I said, do your own homework.

Barry fought tooth and nail for 4 years to avoid showing his credentials.
He finally produced a paper, and within hours, news outlets were claiming, "Done deal. Case closed."

Myself, I L'dMAO at that spectacle.

You're really not going to want to examine this thing he... finally decided to produce? lolz

Well, people have looked - and it's a blatant forgery.

what is it that you or the AZ sec of state want?

He asked them for a simple verification - and they denied.


A sheriff, at the request of people within his jurisidiction, investigated the document that was shown to everyone (including people in his jurisdiction) and passed off as valid.

The sheriff's investigation has concluded that there is probable cause that the document is a forgery.

It is the determination of the Maricopa County Sheriff's Office that a FELONY has been committed.

The way for THE LAW to get to a conclusion on the matter is for Obama's microfilm to be viewed.


All along, Barry has counted on America being populated by squishy brain-dead fucks like you.

[Felix]

still waiting on that list of "graphics experts"....

[Shlomart Ben Yisrael]

At least the "Obama = Socialism" junk was good for a few laughs (mostly me laughing at Americans)...




The birth certificate stuff? Not so much.

It's more sad than anything. It's like that awkward feeling when a friend or family member introduces you to their Down Syndrome baby.
On paper, it sounds like a load of chuckles...

[poptart]

The birth certificate stuff? Not so much.

It's more sad than anything.

Sad indeed.

Many more tears will be shed before this is over.





Doug Vogt
Mara Zebest
Paul Irey
James Colby
Ivan Zatkovich
Karl Denninger

There's a start, Foolix.

[Shlomart Ben Yisrael]

Many more tears will be shed before this is over.

Yours, I suspect.


It's Sunday. Don't you have a giant wooden cross to drag down to the Pentecostal Bookstore today?

[poptart]

It's Sunday night.

Church was fabulous, Marty.

Aren't you going today?

[Shlomart Ben Yisrael]

After Friday prayers, I went for a shawarma. A little soggy...but the pita was fresh at least.

[bradhusker]

Many more tears will be shed before this is over.

Yours, I suspect.


It's Sunday. Don't you have a giant wooden cross to drag down to the Pentecostal Bookstore today?

You need to OWN hte Mel Gibson classic, "The Passion", on dvd. The two-disc deluxe edition, is the one to get.

Mel Gibson ONLY makes great movies, he's one of the greatest directors in the history of cinema.

[poptart]

That's basically mystery meat, isn't it, Marty?

Or at least that's what they called it in the cafeteria ---> back in my school boy daze.

[R-Jack]

It's like that awkward feeling when a friend or family member introduces you to their Down Syndrome baby.
On paper, it sounds like a load of chuckles...

[poptart]

Jsc is here... oh joy.

I'm very well aware of those links.


The very first line from the very first link you posted is FALSE, Jsc.

I'm interested in FACTS, not bullshit.


Nice try.

[bradhusker]

Jsc is here... oh joy.

I'm very well aware of those links.


The very first line from the very first link you posted is FALSE, Jsc.

I'm interested in FACTS, not bullshit.


Nice try.

Jsc, Im curious as to why you do this. Post links to "facts", then when pop goes to the link, it turns out to be FALSE.

Why waste our time with that horseshit?
If you portray a link of yours as FACT, make sure it is STONE COLD FACT. Otherwise, pop or I will go to your links, and after a few times? We wont bother.

Think about it? If its proven false, why do you list it as FACT?

[Felix]

Doug Vogt-CEO of a company that sells scanners-no noted expertise in forensic document analysis and no noted expertise in any Adobe formats.....

Mara Zebest-it appears her expertise is in imaging, and not scanning, otherwise how can anyone explain that she has no concept of what Adobe Adaptive Optimization is and how it effects scanned documents....she also missed the fact that the PDF was created using Mac OS X Quartz PDFContext, not Adobe....pretty sloppy work....

Paul Irey-apparently a typographer with no evident expertise in PDF, or Adobe

James Colby-a graphic artist but not an expert in Adobe or in scanning technology

Ivan Zatkovich

Ivan Zatkovich has 28 years of experience in computer science, computer networks and software engineering. Mr. Zatkovich is the principal consultant with eCompConsultants, a technology consulting firm specializing in intellectual property consulting for telecommunications, web publishing, eCommerce technologies, financial systems, and banking systems.

http://www.ivanzatkovich.com/
apparently is a professional "expert witness" but no noted expertise in Adobe...

Karl Denninger-CEO of an internet provider in Chicago, but no expertise in document examination, Adobe, scanning technologies, or anything remotely close....but does demonstrate some depth of knowledge when it comes to scuba gear......http://www.denninger.net/

so, any more"experts" that have no demonstrable expertise?

if your really interested in the truth, here's a four part youtube video series where an expert analyzes the "evidence" your wingnutters have been using....

http://www.youtube.com/user/springfieldcompguy

but I know you won't watch it....

[Mikey]

A sheriff, at the request of people within his jurisidiction, investigated the document that was shown to everyone (including people in his jurisdiction) and passed off as valid.

LOL. The AZ Secretary of State has received over 1200 requests to investigate a rumor that Romney is a unicorn. Why hasn't he gotten started?

[Shlomart Ben Yisrael]

...scanners...

R.I.P. ~ Norm

you will always be in our prayers

[R-Jack]

I'm interested in FACTS, not bullshit.

[poptart]

Jpop, it is not sufficient to merely say 'uh uhhh, that's not true.' You need to back up your denial with some evidence.

First line from the first link you posted:

In June, the Obama campaign released a digitally scanned image of his birth certificate to quell speculative charges that he might not be a natural-born citizen.


An image of his birth certificate was NOT released. *FAIL*

A certificate of live birth was posted on the internet.


Those links you posted are chock full of bullshit.

Funny, that mirrors the narrative of the fraud they are supposed to be validating.


From Foolix' posts it is VERY clear to me that he is WAY WAY behind on the issue.

I've been laffing at what he's posted here all along.

He has no clue.

You guys can think what you want.


Hey, there may BE an Obama birth certificate in Hawaii.

I don't rule that out, either.

We just haven't seen his BC, yet.

And no, that thing he produced ain't it.

If you think that thing he showed last April is it, you're a seriously stupid fuck.

[MgoBlue-LightSpecial]

And no, that thing he produced ain't it.

If you think that thing he showed last April is it, you're a seriously stupid fuck.

Let's be real here, if God approached you and pulled a copy of Barry's birth certificate from his ass and handed it to you on a platter made of pearls and puffy clouds while wearing a Raiders cap, you'd still reject it.

[Shlomart Ben Yisrael]

...I know he was old, but he could never die.

Not as long as we cherish his memory, my gravy-stained amigo...cherish his *sniff* memory...

:(

[poptart]

I couldn't resist coming back in to taunt Gaysc810 and Foolix a little bit more.


As already noted, it's only slightly hilarious that Gaysc810 would come in taking shots at me, and then post a link to FACTcheck as his first source of verification
of Barry's credentials - and then be forced to see that straight out of the gate, FACTcheck, in effort to establish FACT, made a blatantly FALSE statement.

The Obama campaign did not release his birth certificate, they posted a pic of a COLB on the internet.
Significant error - in sentence #1, in supposedly relaying FACTS to us.

That is fairly embarrassing.


FALSEcheck. hahaha


But as if that isn't enough of a boot in the @ss for Jsc, we could talk about the images that FAKEcheck used in that piece.

Oh look... a COLB with a seal...



How wonderful!

How legitimate!

But... ummm... wait, where is the name on that document? lolz


Oh... here it is, in another image they posted (sorry for the blow-up, but maybe it's necessary)...


Ahh... Barack Hussein Obama II

But wait...
Where is the seal?

It's in the other picture.

Seal?

Bueller??

Why on earth would FUCKEDcheck, in effort to establish FACT, post a dumb pic with a large shadow across it, anyway?

They can't do better than that, if they are a supposed beacon of truth?

Where did the seal go??

Do you see it there?

I don't.


I could go on and on, shredding your dumb @ss, Gaysc, and if anyone deserves it, it's you.

Are you an imebecile?

Are you a lawyer?

What is your trip?


And Foolix, if you do anything other than work on the back of a garbage truck, I pity your clients.


If you want to come in with guns blazing and step to me on this issue, get your information up to speed first, because otherwise, I promise you,
you will continue to be dickslapped silly.

Wait... let me think of something that you two squirrels won't enjoy.

[poptart]

Bwaaaa hahaha


You entered the thread - calling me a dumbfuck, and posted a few links to back your case that this Obama BC stuff was over long ago.

Well, the first sentence of the first link you posted tells us a blatant falsehood.

But even much worse than that, FAKEcheck went on to show us supposed proof positive that Barry's COLB is in fact legit.

But small problem...

It shows us two images of the supposed same document - one with a seal and one without a seal.

BWAAAA...


Explain?

Yes, explain what you posted.

YOU presented it as evidence, not ME.

What kind of attorney enters evidence which blatantly kicks his own @ss?


I laff at Linda Lingle, too, but I really want you to explain the two images FAKEcheck put up on their site.


Go...

[Shlomart Ben Yisrael]

(L, Jsc R, 'tart)

[poptart]

No seal.





Seal.




You entered this for discussion.


Give me your take or we're done here.

[Shlomart Ben Yisrael]

Give me your take or we're done here.

My take is that you are out of your fucking mind.

The second picture is a close-up. The first picture isn't in a resolution high enough to show a small, faint emboss.


You are mental. That's clear.

[Shlomart Ben Yisrael]

I can't for the life of me understand why Republicans don't worship Barry...

:?

- He favours the rich

- Is ruthless in attacking whistle-blowers and deconstructing civil liberties

- Is by far, the greatest friend Israel has ever had in the White House

- Piles up Muslim corpses daily with drones strikes

[Felix]

Where did the seal go??

Do you see it there?

I don't.

This is something I’d expect to read from someone that suffers from schizophrenia.....like Crazy Joe Arpaio

so this is how I imagine the phone call from Crazy Joe and department of Health Services went down….
Hawaiian State Health Services: How may I direct your call?
Crazy Joe: Yeah, I need to talk to who’s ever in charge of birth certificates
HSHS: That would be vital records, let me transfer you (a short lull with some shitty hawaiian muzak playing)
Vital Records: Vital records, how may I help you
CJ: Yeah, this is Sheriff Joe Arpaio of Maricopa County Arizona and I need access to the roll of microfiche of a certain birth certificate
VR: is this a law enforcement matter?
CJ: yes, I’m investigating a fraud.
VR: if this is a law enforcement matter I’d suggest that the jurisdictional attorney contact the State of Hawaii Attorney Generals’ office.
CJ: But didn’t you hear me, I’m Sherriff Joe Arpaio.
VR: Sherriff, we cannot provide access to any vital records without the permission of our state Attorney General’s Office.
CJ: don’t you realize who I am…I’m JOE ARPAIO from Maricopa County Arizona.
VR: Sherriff, this would be a matter for our Attorney Generals’ office.
CJ: but don’t you see, BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA is not legally the president and if I can get access to the files, I can prove it.
VR: Yes sir I understand but under Hawaiian law we are not authorized to allow access to any records without the approval of the Attorney General.
CJ: But I’m Sherriff JOE ARPAIO
VR: Yes, you’ve told me that four times, but you will still need to secure permission from the Attorney General’s office. Would you like their number?
CJ: No

Five minutes later, Crazy Joe releases a press statement stating that because the Department of Health wouldn’t grant him access to the records they must be hiding something.

believing the director of human services and the manager of vital records would risk jail time in verifying/certifying obama's birth certificate is perfectly reasonable....if your a paranoid schizophrenic...

did it ever occur to Crazy Joe that if the President can orchestrate and perpetuate a fraud as complex as this, copying and replacing a roll of microfiche would be childs’ play…..

[Mikey]

Plus, how can they be sure that it was really Joe Arpaio?

[bradhusker]

I can't for the life of me understand why Republicans don't worship Barry...

:?

- He favours the rich

- Is ruthless in attacking whistle-blowers and deconstructing civil liberties

- Is by far, the greatest friend Israel has ever had in the White House

- Piles up Muslim corpses daily with drones strikes

marty wrote, "greatest friend Israel ever had", WITH FRIENDS LIKE THAT WHO NEEDS ENEMIES?

go back to pre 67' borders? BUWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

favours the rich? WHY? When his primary voting block is named DeShawn, LeKreechia, Derron, etc.
Voters who between them dont have two pennies to rub together.

[mvscal]

My take is that even the President's (rational) opponents now admit that he was born in Hawaii. That you continue to bleat on about something that has been proved beyond a reasonable doubt

Barry the Brown Clown himself is the fool who started rumor, so you can shut the fuck up. He thinks pretending to be something he isn't is "cool." In fact, he's been playing 'make believe' his entire life.

Everything about him is fake including his composite birthplaces.

[mvscal]

go back to pre 67' borders? BUWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

That was Chimpy's position.

favours the rich? WHY?

Because they have bought him lock, stock and barrel. He has taken more money from the financial sector than every other candidate combined.

[bradhusker]

go back to pre 67' borders? BUWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

That was Chimpy's position.

favours the rich? WHY?

Because they have bought him lock, stock and barrel. He has taken more money from the financial sector than every other candidate combined.

YES, that may be, BUT, the primary voting block for this guy is the poor gold tooth crowd who want to get rich or die tryin'.

[Shlomart Ben Yisrael]

go back to pre 67' borders? BUWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

That was Chimpy's position.

It was Chimpy's position until the very last day (and every president that preceded him).

It was Obama's position too...for about a week...and then he collapsed like a frightened little bitch.

[mvscal]

Please, show me where Obama has said that he was born anywhere other than Hawaii. Link?

You have your link in the first post of the thread. Klowney the Kenyan had been pimping himself as a genyoooine Afrocan since 1991 at least. Who do you think provided the bio blurb to his publicist? You know...the one that remained unchanged for 16 years until he decided to run for president? Very serendipitous timing on the correction, wouldn't you say? I mean after all that time somebody finally catches the "mistake."

Honestly, there is no telling where this 100% fake product was really manufactured. It wouldn't surprise me in the least if he wasn't produced in Kenya or Hawaii. Everything about him is a lie.

Maybe he was born on a Cherokee Indian reservation. Why, he might even be related to Elizabeth Warren!

while one of my great-great grandfathers, Christopher Columbus Clark, had been a decorated Union soldier, his wife’s mother was rumored to have been a second cousin of Jefferson Davis…that although another distant ancestor had indeed been a full-blooded Cherokee, such lineage was a source of shame to Toot’s mother [Leona McCurry Payne] who blanched whenever someone mentioned the subject and hoped to carry the secret to her grave.

You can really see the resemblance between Harvard Law's first "woman of color" and the Review's first "African" editor.

[mvscal]

a frightened little bitch.

Oh thtop, you big thilly!

[Shlomart Ben Yisrael]

SWEET MERCIFUL JEHOSHAPHAT! Is she hiding the kids under that thing?!?!

Terry, your thoughts?