A thread made in Toddowen heaven.

[Van]

Considering his nearly psychotic obsession with posting old movie clips in response to every topic under the sun, this one just begs for his input...


Vertigo Tops Citizen Kane in Greatest Film of All Time Poll

http://movies.yahoo.com/news/vertigo-to ... 39158.html

LONDON – Orson Welles' Citizen Kane no longer enjoys the moniker of greatest film of all time, a plaudit it has held for 50 years.

The movie has occupied top billing in the British Film Institute published magazine Sight & Sound's once-a-decade international critics’ film poll since 1962.

But that crown, according to Sight & Sound's 2012 survey of 846 movie experts who participate, has now passed to Alfred Hitchcock’s Vertigo.

Made in 1958, the psychological suspense drama first entered the Sight & Sound poll in 1982 in seventh place -- two years after its director died. Largely ignored by the critics for most of his career, its rise in the poll is testament to how Hitchcock’s reputation has steadily increased over time.

Starring Kim Novak and James Stewart, Vertigo trumped Citizen Kane by 34 votes this time around; it was five votes shy of Kane 10 years ago.

And 1941's Kane, second in the survey, also missed out on the top spot in a separate poll of 358 film directors from all over the world, including Martin Scorsese, Quentin Tarantino, Francis Ford Coppola, Woody Allen and Mike Leigh, whose survey chose Yasujiro Ozu’s Tokyo Story (1953) as its greatest.

The critics poll, first conducted in 1952, marks the magazine's seventh and its most ambitious to date.

The 10-yearly survey aims to rule out fluctuations in taste and asks participants to interpret "greatest" in any way they chose.

That could mean whether the film was most important to film history, represented the aesthetic pinnacle of achievement or perhaps had a personal impact on their own view of cinema.

This year’s poll sample of 846 film critics, academics, distributors, writers and programmers from all corners of the globe was the biggest ever. They voted for 2,045 movie titles overall.

That compares with the 144 that were asked 10 years ago.

The pollsters said the huge increase in numbers "reflects the impact of the Internet and proliferation and increased influence of film commentators using this new medium."

Another fallout from this year's top 10 is Sergei Eisenstein's Battleship Potemkin, a 1925 film that has appeared in the top 10 for all of the poll's 60 years in various slots.

Three silent films make 2012's top 10 -- Dziga Vertov’s documentary Man With a Movie Camera (1929) is a new addition, while 1927's Sunrise, directed by F.W. Murnau, moves up to fifth and The Passion of Joan of Arc re-enters – ousting Eisenstein's picture.

Organizers said the changes might be explained by the availability of the films on DVD and the resurgence in popularity in recent years for different kinds of live accompaniment to the films, from The Alloy Orchestra and Michael Nyman to prog rock.

Ozu’s Tokyo Story is in third spot and Jean Renoir’s La Règle du jeu (1939) occupies fourth.

Vertov’s film is the first documentary to make the top 10 since 1952.

Carl Theodor Dreyer’s The Passion of Joan of Arc (1927) is ninth, while the most recent film in the top 10 is Stanley Kubrick’s 2001: A Space Odyssey (1968) in sixth place. John Ford's The Searchers (1956) hits the seventh spot while Federico Fellini's 8 1/2 (1963) lies 10th.


The Critics’ Top 10 Greatest Films of All Time

Vertigo (Hitchcock, 1958)

Citizen Kane (Welles, 1941)

Tokyo Story (Ozu, 1953)

La Règle du jeu (Renoir, 1939)

Sunrise: A Song for Two Humans (Murnau, 1927)

2001: A Space Odyssey (Kubrick, 1968)

The Searchers (Ford, 1956)

Man With a Movie Camera (Dziga Vertov, 1929)

The Passion of Joan of Arc (Dreyer, 1927)

8 ½ (Fellini, 1963)


The Directors’ Top 10 Greatest Films of All Time

Tokyo Story (Ozu, 1953)

2001: A Space Odyssey (Kubrick, 1968)

Citizen Kane (Welles, 1941)

8 ½ (Fellini, 1963)

Taxi Driver (Scorsese, 1980)

Apocalypse Now (Coppola, 1979)

The Godfather (Coppola, 1972)

Vertigo (Hitchcock, 1958)

Mirror (Tarkovsky, 1974)

Bicycle Thieves (De Sica, 1948)


Okay, Todd, let's hear it. There's no way you don't have strong opinions on some of this shit, and here's your chance to hit us with your own Top 10.

Any of the rest of you rabble who wish to cast aspersions upon these lists, have at it. Surely Nick will have something to say, and Mikey seems to be a bit of a movie buff as well.

And hey, maybe pop can gnash his teeth over the exclusion of The Autumn Wind Is A Raider....

[mvscal]

I haven't seen Citizen Kane but Vertigo is definitely up there on the all time greatest list.

In my opinion though, the 70s were the greatest decade for film making. Just stop and think and think about all the great films that came out of the 70s.

[Van]

I'm the opposite of you in that I've seen Citizen Kane but not Vertigo, and yeah, I couldn't agree more about the '70s being the best decade for movies. Music, too.

At least the Directors' list somewhat reflects the excellence of the '70s, and Taxi Driver and 2001: A Space Odyssey just missed being added to that decade.

[Wolfman]

open the pod bay doors HAL

[Van]

Our entire culture is based on Top 10 lists. Hell, our country was founded on lists.

Make your list, damn it!

[R-Jack]

...........and Bio-Dome gets snubbed again.

[Van]

What about Roadhouse and Showgirls? I mean, c'mon!

[M2]

Throw Sam Peckinpah and "The Wild Bunch"... on the list for me.








Peckinpah is one of the greatest directors of all-time.

[mvscal]

Peckinpah is one of the greatest directors of all-time.

No, he isn't. He isn't even close. Wild Bunch and Straw Dogs are good and the rest of the shit he directed is very hit and miss and none of it ever came close to Wild Bunch.

[War Wagon]

I don't presume to be a movie critic or to have even seen a lot of films but in making a list, a few come to mind.

Gone With The Wind
The Thin Red Line
Easy Rider
The Shawshank Redemption
The Professional
Platoon

just off the top.

[Van]

How on earth do you see Showgirls as being gay?

Awful, sure, but gay? It's softcore porn featuring scene after scene of Elizabeth Berkley/Gina Hershon T&A all movie long.

Now, okay, at least in Roadhouse I can see where you might find the scenes between Patrick Swayze and Smackie Chan to be a little gay, but overall that movie is again just more stupid than gay.

[MgoBlue-LightSpecial]

The Shawshank Redemption

:gag:

most overrated pile of crap in the history of cinema.

[Van]

It's a nice little feel-good movie. It's the Walmart of modern cinema, so of course Wags places it right at the top.

[Mace]

The Outlaw Josie Wales
The Shootist
True Grit
Bull Durham
Field of Dreams
Major League
For Love of the Game
Remember the Titans
Saving Private Ryan
The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance

[Van]

Five sports movies and five violent movies, including two that literally include variations of the word 'shoot' in the title.

Awesome.

[Mace]

Five sports movies and five violent movies, including two that literally include variations of the word 'shoot' in the title.

Awesome.

True, and they're all good movies.

[Wolfman]

There have been many really good movies made over the years. Some great story telling, great acting, action, and cinematography. My list in no particular order are movies that I saw in their first run that made a lasting impression on me. Enough that I still enjoy seeing them from time to time. Limiting the list to 10 makes me leave out quite a few. But these are ones that meet all my criteria. Noticeably missing from any of them are a lot of profanity, gratuitous violence, and gratuitous sex.
Manchurian Candidate (the real one with Sinatra)
Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid
2001: A Space Oddysey (actually my favorite all time movie)
American Graffiti (could have been about Syracuse circa 1957)
Bridge On the River Kwai
The Searchers
Dr. Strangelove
Rocky
Jaws
The Sting

Tell me they still make movies that good these days.

[Bizzarofelice]

John Wayne pretty much sucks. Same character in everything. He is decent in The Searchers because his motivation has a little twist halfway through.







that being said I love 90% of his movies

[mvscal]

Outlaw JOSEY Wales, nitwits.

[Van]

Outlaw JOISEY Wales, you buncha freakin' mooks.

FTFY.

[MgoBlue-LightSpecial]

Howard The Duck
Johnny Be Good
Airborne
Encino Man
Little Monsters
Air Bud
Air Bud: Golden Receiver
Air Bud: World Pup
Air Bud: Seventh Inning Fetch
Air Bud: Spikes Back

[War Wagon]

Last of the Mohicans

absolutely a great movie.

[Dr_Phibes]

'The Long Riders' in sub-categories, best gunfight ever filmed. Slow motion mayhem.

I always thought the Citizen Kane battle was with Casablanca, with women preferring the latter.

[Van]

I haven't seen Casablanca near the top of any of these lists, at least not over the past decade or so anyway.

[mvscal]

'The Long Riders' in sub-categories, best gunfight ever filmed. Slow motion mayhem.

Highly underrated western. The brother casting deal could have been gimmicky but it worked brilliantly, imo. Definitely in my top five westerns.

[Goober McTuber]

The geriatric yogoist had an embarassing moment of incontinence as he struggled to thrust his angular pelvis skyward only to have a cascade of brown seepage leaking from his ill fitting Depends.

I'm tired.

Good Freaking God.

Ben Hur.

[R-Jack]

Now, okay, at least in Roadhouse I can see where you might find the scenes between Patrick Swayze and Smackie Chan to be a little gay, but overall that movie is again just more stupid than gay.