Is America worth trying to save?

[mvscal]

Screw, yes, we know you'd shoot your load before even getting near the pussy. That's why you're known for jizzmopping.

Ehhh...I don't think Screwy is really known for mopping his own jizz per se.

[War Wagon]

Filibuster (one word) is synonymous with stall. You do know what a filibuster is and does, right Van?

umm, Screw?

Pretty sure he was smacking yours truly with that pointed barb...

shit, you've got me speaking for Van. Go fuck yourself.

[War Wagon]

Ehhh...I don't think Screwy is really known for mopping his own jizz per se.

artistic license and besides, no one ever defined whose jizz he was mopping.

[Van]

Filibuster (one word) is synonymous with stall. You do know what a filibuster is and does, right Van?

Uhhh, yeah, Screwball, I do, which is why I conspicuously highlighted 'another' (denoting the passing of time) in my little quip.

Jesus, dude. Really?

[Van]

Filibuster (one word) is synonymous with stall. You do know what a filibuster is and does, right Van?

umm, Screw?

Pretty sure he was smacking yours truly with that pointed barb...

shit, you've got me speaking for Van. Go fuck yourself.

Yes, I was, but not really. That was a generic quip about a hot chick who doesn't put out, who stalls, thus relegating the guy to spilling his seed over and over.

It wasn't specifically aimed at you. It could've been anyone.

[mvscal]

Ehhh...I don't think Screwy is really known for mopping his own jizz per se.

artistic license and besides, no one ever defined whose jizz he was mopping.

He certainly wouldn't need a mop for his own jizz now would he?

[Van]

Van, don't you have some strange to be chasing after?

Wait, before you do... I seem to recall a post from lovebuzz asking "doesn't everybody like Van"?

oddly enough, that post seems to have been deleted, can't imagine why. Pity, I was going to reply to it.

You mean pitifully you were going to reply to it, just as you did here.

i don't crave Van's attention, you perv.
he gives it willingly. i dig Van. we all dig Van.
don't we ?
what else you got, Pops ?

It's still there, right where it was yesterday. It's in the Chick-Fil-A thread, you fucking dunce.

Point being, you scare off chicks with your creepazoid, stalker personna, not that this is any revelation to you either.

Point being, you remain as AP-level clueless as always. It seems the only time you ever get anything right about me is when I tell it to you myself, which, as we both know, usually proves to be a huge blunder.

[H4ever]

The truth is, that when this shitbox finally goes bankrupt, the haves will be just fine.

I guess. If you call bankrupt "just fine." You don't think the have-nots are going to be the ones going bankrupt, do you? They're already there.

I suppose 'the haves' could try eating their stock certificates and T bills but I don't think it would ever come to that. They will be gang raped, tortured, murdered and eaten (in no particular order) in their penthouse suites by hordes of feral nigggers and other urban trash long before they would ever starve.

^^^ gets it.

" Those who fail to learn from history....." But, in the typical elitist's mind things are gonna be just fine and nobody would dare cross the hedges and sound-dampening walls along the roads. Nope, they wouldn't dare trample the manicured lawns around the ivory towers where the vacuous and naive reside .

The actual "truth is".... the elitist fucks would be among the first to become worm food but not before being torn limb from limb.....tortured alive.... reaping all the anger of those laughed at and with two shits given about previously. I hope their battered and bruised, decapitated domes enjoy the pig-pole rides out of exclusive-ville while their corpses smolder in the background.

I'm sure the police officers no longer getting paid will wanna save them. Especially since the ilk has taken offense to all that sick leave their union contracts afforded them. And all those deece benefits at the rich tax-payers expense ya know? I hope they pin their badges to the elitist's butcher-raped, deceased wives' foreheads.

Fuck the plutocracy.

*edit* I hope it sounds much nicer now

[H4ever]

You might want to get those anger issues addressed before you hurt someone. Seriously.

Personally, I'm not worried at all. I don't live in a penthouse and I don't own any stock certificates. I live in an ordinary neighborhood and appear just about as ordinary as everyone in it. And if anyone decides to invade my keep, they will experience a lead poisoning that they will not likely forget.

The very rich will leave this sordid clambake long before your marauding hordes can menace them. The suburbanites will coalesce against the invaders and put up a good fight. But cast your lot with whichever group you think will take care of your personal interests the best.

Who says I will be among the marauding, lawless hordes? I'm not a militia-type, but I do have training and have several friends and family members who have enough land and resources to form a makeshift compound. Pooling resources and talents to try and ride it out.

I'm not angry, I'm a realist and people are so fucking naive. This country is ill in so many ways and it starts at the bottom. Failing to address what's wrong in favor of greed and continued corruption is the biggest contributor to what's wrong. Blame it on the degenerates all you want, but that's just an easy cop-out. You judge the health of any community (even national ones) by it's worst members. That's about as common knowledge as shit like "never fight a land war in Asia" But it seems no one has the balls to address anything that must change if we are to survive. Nope....let's just parrot party-lines and rationalize the criminal behavior of politicians controlled by the plutocracy.

[Van]

And let's wish butcher rapes on the wives of our fellow board members. Amid your obvious lack of anger, you seem to have already forgotten that little tidbit.

[H4ever]

And let's wish butcher rapes on the wives of our fellow board members. Amid your obvious lack of anger, you seem to have already forgotten that little tidbit.

Poor choice of words. I got it. "your" meaning the naive elitists' wives. Ya wants me to edit that for ya?

[Van]

Even if you change the object of your stated affections it's still not going to come off as any less wildly psychotic, but sure, go ahead and depersonalize it just that tiny skosh.

I do have training and have several friends and family members who have enough land and resources to form a makeshift compound.

...the elitist fucks would be among the first to become worm food but not before being torn limb from limb.....tortured alive.... reaping all the anger of those laughed at and with two shits given about previously. I hope their battered and bruised, decapitated domes enjoy the pig-pole rides out of exclusive-ville while their corpses smolder in the background.

Fuck the plutocracy.

Woohoo!

[Goober McTuber]

shit, you've got me speaking for Van.

That would be about on a par with having Roseanne fill in as a stunt-double in a sex scene for Scarlett Johansson.

[H4ever]

Even if you change the object of your stated affections it's still not going to come off as any less wildly psychotic, but sure, go ahead and depersonalize it just that tiny skosh.

I do have training and have several friends and family members who have enough land and resources to form a makeshift compound.

...the elitist fucks would be among the first to become worm food but not before being torn limb from limb.....tortured alive.... reaping all the anger of those laughed at and with two shits given about previously. I hope their battered and bruised, decapitated domes enjoy the pig-pole rides out of exclusive-ville while their corpses smolder in the background.

Fuck the plutocracy.

Woohoo!

Why aren't you concerned about the feral, rapist, murderous n*ggers mvscal mentioned in his musings about what "might" happen in the future? You're scared of him aren't you? Tell the truth sweetheart...I've seen it on your quivering lips for about the last 10 years in here. Perhaps you're still competing for board cred to this very day? Now that's funny!

[H4ever]

'sides, Vannie.....wouldn't a compound be formed as a "defense" against the marauders ? But yea...go ahead and spin it a little. This isn't your first rodeo in that capacity.

[Van]

I'm not concerned with them because they aren't posting here and revealing themselves to be bloodthirsty mongoloids who openly wish to kill, maim, dismember, burn, rape, go bowling, etc.

Hell, you don't even discriminate among your hoped-for victims. You can't wait to make lampshades out of both the feral marauders and their wealthy prey, even including their spouses. Why, you're just a veritable "Yahtzee!" of violent dementia!

And yeah, considering how you seem to be viscerally aching for a chance to be "forced to retreat" to your fortified compound so you can set up shop mowing down the rabid hordes, I hardly see you viewing it as an unfortunate yet necessary mechanism of self-defense. Rather, it seems more akin to your idea of winning the Super Bowl and earning a trip to Disneyland.

[Atomic Punk]

Vangina, let me ask you a simple question. Before you get butt-hurt as you have a haughty opinion of yourself, why do you think anything you say matters?

[Left Seater]

You are an idiot

Yes, thanks for pointing out I should have said production.

[Screw_Michigan]

And let's wish butcher rapes on the wives of our fellow board members. Amid your obvious lack of anger, you seem to have already forgotten that little tidbit.

He gets it from his wife, remember?

[Mikey]

You are an idiot

Yes, thanks for pointing out I should have said production.

Where are you getting your information?

For electricity, generation is production.
For oil production California ranks behind only Texas and Alaska, and not all that far behind Alaska.

The general ignorance about California, outside of California, never ceases to amaze me.

We're not so big on natural gas, ranking #11 but I wouldn't say that it's non existant.

[R-Jack]

You are an idiot

Yes, thanks for pointing out I should have said production.

And you would remain an idiot if you did.

[Smackie Chan]

We're not so big on natural gas, ranking #11 but I wouldn't say that it's non existant.

I wouldn't either, but if I were, I'd say it's nonexistent.

[Left Seater]

For electricity, generation is production.

We're not so big on natural gas, ranking #11 but I wouldn't say that it's non existant.

Yes, for electricity, generation is production, but you still import over 30% of your demand. Plus your generation breaks down along these lines:

14.44% nuclear

18.21% coal

45.74% natural gas

11% large hydro

10.61% other renewables

Of that breakdown, the generation available in CA is mostly natural gas, nuclear and other renewables. The nuclear and renewables would still be available, but in a complete failure of the US the natural gas is not guaranteed. At that point CA is in a huge generation/production hole.

And yes you will be able to refine that oil production for gasoline for your cars, but that will put you even further in trouble on the power side.

[Van]

We import over 30% of our demand?

God, we really are fucked.

[smackaholic]

For electricity, generation is production.

We're not so big on natural gas, ranking #11 but I wouldn't say that it's non existant.

Yes, for electricity, generation is production, but you still import over 30% of your demand. Plus your generation breaks down along these lines:

14.44% nuclear

18.21% coal

45.74% natural gas

11% large hydro

10.61% other renewables

Of that breakdown, the generation available in CA is mostly natural gas, nuclear and other renewables. The nuclear and renewables would still be available, but in a complete failure of the US the natural gas is not guaranteed. At that point CA is in a huge generation/production hole.

And yes you will be able to refine that oil production for gasoline for your cars, but that will put you even further in trouble on the power side.

Lefty,

I think you just need to stay down, in this fight. Cali has an assload of resources. If the western states turned off the water spigot to them, sure, their ag. production would take a hit, but, that means rather than feeding the entire fukking country, along with a few other countries, they'd just feed themselves and still have a few metric shit tons of surplus to trade for whatever they needed. Another thing to consider is that, being full of meddlesome hippies ('sup mikey) they don't fully utilize their resources. In an emergency, I suspect the rest of the folks there, would tar and feather the hippies and get to utilizin'. On my drive from Yosemite back to the coast, I wondered to myself why they didn't slap a few dozen more hydro dams on the merced as it drops a mile or so along that canyon. They could probably run the whole fukkin' state's grid off it.

[Mikey]

We're not so big on natural gas, ranking #11 but I wouldn't say that it's non existant.

I wouldn't either, but if I were, I'd say it's nonexistent.

I think I'll just retire. Right now.

[Mikey]

We import over 30% of our demand?

God, we really are fucked.

True. If we could just stop importing our demand then a lot of our supply issues would vanish.

[Mikey]

For electricity, generation is production.

We're not so big on natural gas, ranking #11 but I wouldn't say that it's non existant.

Yes, for electricity, generation is production, but you still import over 30% of your demand. Plus your generation breaks down along these lines:

14.44% nuclear

18.21% coal

45.74% natural gas

11% large hydro

10.61% other renewables

Of that breakdown, the generation available in CA is mostly natural gas, nuclear and other renewables. The nuclear and renewables would still be available, but in a complete failure of the US the natural gas is not guaranteed. At that point CA is in a huge generation/production hole.

And yes you will be able to refine that oil production for gasoline for your cars, but that will put you even further in trouble on the power side.

Don't really care. I'll just go out and forage for some batteries, unhook my PV panels from the non-functioning grid and implement most of the measures in Derron's Post-Apolcalypse Handbook for Fortress Protection. I might have to run my pool pump a little less but otherwise we should be just fine.

[smackaholic]

Ahh, C'mon, mikey, you're an engineer, you could just do it gilligan's island style and hook a bambo bicycle up to that pump. 6 hours a day of that would have you're chunky arse looking like dinsdale in no time.

[Mikey]

would have you're chunky arse looking like dinsdale in no time.

And that would be a good thing?

[mvscal]

You do know what a filibuster is and does,

Yes, they were companies of independent mercenaries who went around trying to take over Central American countries in the mid 19th century.

[mvscal]

We import over 30% of our demand?

God, we really are fucked.

Yes, we import demand by the millions from Mexico.

[Van]

Like I said.

[mvscal]

The nuclear and renewables would still be available, but in a complete failure of the US the natural gas is not guaranteed. At that point CA is in a huge generation/production hole.

Monterey Shale says what?

[smackaholic]

would have you're chunky arse looking like dinsdale in no time.

And that would be a good thing?

Uhhh, yeah. In the post apocalyptic world, being wirey is prolly a benefit. Stay your well marbled self and you'll end up in a barbeque pit of the local messican horde.

[Shlomart Ben Yisrael]

Just give Buffalo to Phibes already... ...Jeeez.

[H4ever]

I'm not concerned with them because they aren't posting here and revealing themselves to be bloodthirsty mongoloids who openly wish to kill, maim, dismember, burn, rape, go bowling, etc.

Hell, you don't even discriminate among your hoped-for victims. You can't wait to make lampshades out of both the feral marauders and their wealthy prey, even including their spouses. Why, you're just a veritable "Yahtzee!" of violent dementia!

And yeah, considering how you seem to be viscerally aching for a chance to be "forced to retreat" to your fortified compound so you can set up shop mowing down the rabid hordes, I hardly see you viewing it as an unfortunate yet necessary mechanism of self-defense. Rather, it seems more akin to your idea of winning the Super Bowl and earning a trip to Disneyland.

I bet you rubbed one out as you replayed this creative scenario over and over in your mind. Didn't ya? You want me to come over and slap you around a little bit Van? Howsabout I rap my thumb with a ball-peen hammer to create some swelling for added pleasure when I jam it up your arse and then ask, "Where is Thumbkin?" I'm cool like that.

[poptart]

Seems pretty obvious that things have gone to hell since the religious right has asserted itself.

About what year was this - and what do you base it on?


On the two biggest issues the 'religious right' fights - abortion and homosexual marriage - we have seen the 'religious right' do nothing but lose ground since the early '70's.

The religious right has also lost ground on - prayer in school, Ten Commandment display rights, homosexual adoption... and others.

How exactly do you figure the group has asserted itself?

LOL


No, the U.S. has declined ---> as moral corruption has increased.


Happy Thursday!
Your take totally sucked.

[Bizzarofelice]

On the two biggest issues the 'religious right' fights - stupidity and the existence of magical fairies

fixed

[Goober McTuber]

I'm not concerned with them because they aren't posting here and revealing themselves to be bloodthirsty mongoloids who openly wish to kill, maim, dismember, burn, rape, go bowling, etc.

Hell, you don't even discriminate among your hoped-for victims. You can't wait to make lampshades out of both the feral marauders and their wealthy prey, even including their spouses. Why, you're just a veritable "Yahtzee!" of violent dementia!

And yeah, considering how you seem to be viscerally aching for a chance to be "forced to retreat" to your fortified compound so you can set up shop mowing down the rabid hordes, I hardly see you viewing it as an unfortunate yet necessary mechanism of self-defense. Rather, it seems more akin to your idea of winning the Super Bowl and earning a trip to Disneyland.

I bet you rubbed one out as you replayed this creative scenario over and over in your mind. Didn't ya? You want me to come over and slap you around a little bit Van? Howsabout I rap my thumb with a ball-peen hammer to create some swelling for added pleasure when I jam it up your arse and then ask, "Where is Thumbkin?" I'm cool like that.

You want to jam your swollen thumb up another's man ass? Because you're "cool like that"? There's some really strange motherfuckers that post here.