What we learned - Week One

kcdave · Post by **kcdave** » Sun Sep 09, 2012 11:46 pm

I have lost count, but this will make like the fourth or fifth year that I will not be making Chiefs games appointment television.
Thanks for freeing up some time for me, Chiefs.

Th · Post by Th » Mon Sep 10, 2012 12:12 am

Looks like the Patriots remembered some important things this offseason: defense is equally important to winning in this league as offense. Also, to counter a pass-rush, you HAVE to run the football. Patriots scored rushing, passing and on defense. More important: the Pats ran the ball as a 'feature' not just as an afterthought. They showed some flashes of pass-rush, sacked Locker twice forcing a turnover and scored on it, then held Johnson to only FOUR yards rushing for the game. Physical, multidimensional offense, much improved (so far) on defense. A DAMN good start.

mvscal · Post by **mvscal** » Mon Sep 10, 2012 12:28 am

Jsc810 wrote:Saints will be ok.

If by 'OK' you mean crash into a tree at high speed, explode into flames and die screaming, then, yes, the Saints will be OK.

War Wagon · Post by **War Wagon** » Mon Sep 10, 2012 12:37 am

what I learned today is that home field advantage was virtually non-existant and that the replacement refs let illegal blocks and other infractions go unpunished all over the place.

Shoalzie · Post by **Shoalzie** » Mon Sep 10, 2012 1:16 am

If the Lions are going to be playing with a beat-up secondary, the defensive line is going to have to produce more pressure than today.

Stafford got a little too cute with a couple of those picks. He's going to have a lot of guys to throw to again this year...he just has to make better decisions. The running game still isn't very good but they still nearly outgained the Rams 2:1 overall. This game shouldn't have been this close but the turnovers were an equalizer.

Next week on the road in San Francisco on SNF...I'm not encouraged by what I saw today to think they can beat the Niners after what they did today at Lambeau.

Go Coogs' · Post by **Go Coogs'** » Mon Sep 10, 2012 1:45 am

Houston's offensive line needs to play better. Their run blocking was shit today. Miami's front seven is a strength, but the o-line didn't do Foster and Tate any favors. A couple/few dropped passes didn't help the offense either and the run defense looked a little suspect. If the Texans want to be a contender, then they need to clean some things up. They'll lose to the premier teams if they play like they did today.

Ken · Post by **Ken** » Mon Sep 10, 2012 2:07 am

Jsc810 wrote:Saints will be ok.

Wow, didn't see that take coming.

MgoBlue-LightSpecial · Mon Sep 10, 2012 3:24 am

Peyton Manning is still pretty fucking good.

ChargerMike · Post by **ChargerMike** » Mon Sep 10, 2012 3:46 am

Chiefs suck
Jamaal Charles has lost a step
Denver will train link the AFC West
My rookie QB RGIII put up 37 in his debut
My Kicker rammed a 63 yarder off the crossbar and through
I kept my 150+ pt. streak alive :bode:

Felix · Post by **Felix** » Mon Sep 10, 2012 3:48 am

MgoBlue-LightSpecial wrote:Peyton Manning is still pretty fucking good.

yep, made a pretty good defense look mediocre....tough to believe he's been off work for two years (although I noticed a lot of his throws weren't exactly textbook spirals)....and who knew he could run?

the denver defense is a lot better than last year....tracy porter was a huge get for them.....pick your poison, porter or bailey

ChargerMike wrote: I kept my 150+ pt. streak alive

dude, you were playing me....of course your going to score 150....I inevitably play the guy who scores the most points on any given week....fuck I could have had alex smith and petersen both in in addition to the guys I played and still not beaten you

ChargerMike · Post by **ChargerMike** » Mon Sep 10, 2012 5:41 am

KC Scott wrote:
ChargerMike wrote:Chiefs suck
Jamaal Charles has lost a step
Obviously why you picked them in the confidence pool

...I thought they had a decent D...my bad

mvscal · Post by **mvscal** » Mon Sep 10, 2012 5:55 am

Felix wrote:yep, made a pretty good defense look mediocre....

Not really. That was an old, slow and beat up squad on the field.

Mikey · Post by **Mikey** » Mon Sep 10, 2012 9:17 am

A little over a year after being dumped by the Eagles, Akers still has a leg.

Shoalzie · Post by **Shoalzie** » Mon Sep 10, 2012 10:26 am

MgoBlue-LightSpecial wrote:Peyton Manning is still pretty fucking good.

Amazing what a difference having a real QB will make in Denver...that's a legit team now with that defense and a functional signal caller under center. You don't need to dumb down the playbook and come up with gadget plays for him...he is the friggin' playbook.

poptart · Post by **poptart** » Mon Sep 10, 2012 12:43 pm

63 yd FG to tie the NFL record?

Tie?

Dempsey
Elam
Janikowski
Akers

The NFL micromanages everything - and so are you telling me that they are not able to look at the tapes and identify which one of those four kicks was the longest?

Like... Elam's was the longest at 63.8 yds, and it beats out Dempsey's, which was next at 63.5 yds, or whatever.

Tell me which one was the longest, NFL fuckwits.

jiminphilly · Post by **jiminphilly** » Mon Sep 10, 2012 2:10 pm

Forget injury concerns, Vick might not last past week 5 if he plays as bad as he did against Cleveland.

MgoBlue-LightSpecial · Mon Sep 10, 2012 2:22 pm

mvscal wrote:
Felix wrote:yep, made a pretty good defense look mediocre....
Not really. That was an old, slow and beat up squad on the field.

Weren't the Steelers, statistically, the #1 defense in the NFL last year?

Screw_Michigan · Post by **Screw_Michigan** » Mon Sep 10, 2012 3:04 pm

jiminphilly wrote:Forget injury concerns, Vick might not last past week 5 if he plays as bad as he did against Cleveland.

The Eagles threw 60 times yesterday. Good bye, fat man!

Mikey · Post by **Mikey** » Mon Sep 10, 2012 4:23 pm

poptart wrote:63 yd FG to tie the NFL record?

Tie?

Dempsey
Elam
Janikowski
Akers

The NFL micromanages everything - and so are you telling me that they are not able to look at the tapes and identify which one of those four kicks was the longest?

Like... Elam's was the longest at 63.8 yds, and it beats out Dempsey's, which was next at 63.5 yds, or whatever.

Tell me which one was the longest, NFL fuckwits.

Is there anything in life you DON'T bitch about?

Goober McTuber · Post by **Goober McTuber** » Mon Sep 10, 2012 7:56 pm

Papa Willie wrote:
poptart wrote:63 yd FG to tie the NFL record?

Tie?

Dempsey
Elam
Janikowski
Akers

The NFL micromanages everything - and so are you telling me that they are not able to look at the tapes and identify which one of those four kicks was the longest?

Like... Elam's was the longest at 63.8 yds, and it beats out Dempsey's, which was next at 63.5 yds, or whatever.

Tell me which one was the longest, NFL fuckwits.

Dempsey's was still the most impressive.

/s/
His Half Foot

Bullshit. That club he kicked with was an advantage.

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Mon Sep 10, 2012 8:49 pm

poptart wrote:63 yd FG to tie the NFL record?

Tie?

Dempsey
Elam
Janikowski
Akers

The NFL micromanages everything - and so are you telling me that they are not able to look at the tapes and identify which one of those four kicks was the longest?

Like... Elam's was the longest at 63.8 yds, and it beats out Dempsey's, which was next at 63.5 yds, or whatever.

Tell me which one was the longest, NFL fuckwits.

Being that Sebass is a Raider, we know his kick had the best 40 time.

Mikey · Post by **Mikey** » Mon Sep 10, 2012 11:17 pm

Jim Harbaugh continues to have an uncanny ability to motivate great performances from his players.

Screw_Michigan · Post by **Screw_Michigan** » Mon Sep 10, 2012 11:24 pm

Mikey wrote:Jim Harbaugh continues to have an uncanny ability to motivate great performances from his players.

"Cannot play with them, cannot win with them, cannot coach with them. Can't do it."

mvscal · Post by **mvscal** » Tue Sep 11, 2012 1:34 am

Screw_Michigan wrote:
Mikey wrote:Jim Harbaugh continues to have an uncanny ability to motivate great performances from his players.
"Cannot play with them, cannot win with them, cannot coach with them. Can't do it."

If nothing else, Harbaugh has proven that Singletard was the worst coach in NFL history.

Go Coogs' · Post by **Go Coogs'** » Tue Sep 11, 2012 2:19 am

mvscal wrote:
Screw_Michigan wrote:
Mikey wrote:Jim Harbaugh continues to have an uncanny ability to motivate great performances from his players.
"Cannot play with them, cannot win with them, cannot coach with them. Can't do it."

If nothing else, Harbaugh has proven that Singletard was the worst coach in NFL history.

True, but you can't argue against that speech changing Vernon Davis' career.

Mikey · Post by **Mikey** » Tue Sep 11, 2012 5:01 am

Best way to hamstring your opponent:

Kick their long snapper in the head.

poptart · Post by **poptart** » Tue Sep 11, 2012 2:29 pm

I learned...

- Take out the Raiders' long snapper and the game is yours

- The Oakland paln to scrap an effective offense in favor of something new was a very dumb idea.

Hand it to McFadden.
Pitch it to McFadden.
Pass it to McFadden.
McFadden broken by week 5.

Wow, dynamic!

ChargerMike · Post by **ChargerMike** » Tue Sep 11, 2012 5:29 pm

Hand it to McFadden.
Pitch it to McFadden.
Pass it to McFadden.
McFadden broken by week 5.

..book it

Joe in PB · Post by **Joe in PB** » Tue Sep 11, 2012 6:03 pm

I learned...

- Put the ball in Carson Palmers hands and the game is yours.

- Jason Cambell was the Raiduh's best QB since Rich Gannon.

- Hue Jackson isn't a GM, but is a LOT better coach than anybody else for the primer & soot since Grunden.

- DHB is who we thought he was, a stiff.

- Terrelle Pryor will be starting before the season is over.

- Oakland's season is officially for draft position only, a top ten draft pick is assured........

mvscal · Post by **mvscal** » Tue Sep 11, 2012 9:35 pm

poptart wrote:I learned...

- Take out the Raiders' long snapper and the game is yours

Or anybody's for that matter. The Bolts had that problem a couple years ago during the Great Special Teams Meltdown of 2010. They even lost their back up long snapper.

The Oakland paln to scrap an effective offense in favor of something new was a very dumb idea.

Hand it to McFadden.
Pitch it to McFadden.
Pass it to McFadden.
McFadden broken by week 5.

Wow, dynamic!

Who else do they have other than a bunch of slappies who can run real fast in a straight line and can't catch a cold? Palmer certainly isn't any better than average at best.

It's going to take the Duhs a couple years at least to dig themselves out of the hole alvis dug for them.

Go Coogs' · Post by **Go Coogs'** » Tue Sep 11, 2012 9:50 pm

I actually agree with pop on this one. Using McFadden they way they did in game 1 is only going to get D-Mac to week 5 and then he'll be dead. Mike Goodson and Tawain Jones should've been in the rotation and Heyward-Bey probably had some open looks downfield, but Palmer was reluctant to pull the trigger. I'll give the Chargers some credit for their defense. They played well.

poptart · Post by **poptart** » Wed Sep 12, 2012 2:16 am

mvscal wrote:Who else do they have other than a bunch of slappies who can run real fast in a straight line and can't catch a cold? Palmer certainly isn't any better than average at best.

It's going to take the Duhs a couple years at least to dig themselves out of the hole alvis dug for them.

The new regime came in and tried to fix what wasn't broke - the offense.

Verrah dumb.

New Head Coach, O-Coordinator, new offense - which is not, imo, a good fit for Palmer's skills.

They let their TE and last year's top ball carrier (M. Bush) leave.

Hue Jackson had his faults as Raider head coach, but what he did have was a legitimately bright offensive mind.
Despite playing without 2 starting receivers, it wouldn't have been... McFADDEN ALL NIGHT LONG.

I was not impressed and not encouraged by what I saw last night.

McFadden will break and the defense will eventually break, too.

mvscal · Post by **mvscal** » Wed Sep 12, 2012 4:09 am

You need to adjust your expectations. The Duhs aren't a good team...at all. With the exception of some critically stupid penalties, the defense played fairly well. You can build around that and well above average special teams support from Seabass and Lechler.

The offense is loaded with stiffs, busts and gimps. It will take a couple years to fix that. I think the new management has the team pointed in the right direction.

poptart · Post by **poptart** » Wed Sep 12, 2012 4:26 am

mvscal wrote:You need to adjust your expectations.

My expectation was 5-11 or 6-10.

Had the new regime not performed surgery on an offense which really didn't need it, I might have higher expectations.

But I think Oakland is a bottom feeder in 2012.

mvscal wrote:I think the new management has the team pointed in the right direction.

We'll see.

The new owner.

mvscal · Post by **mvscal** » Wed Sep 12, 2012 5:12 am

Geez. Yeah...he's uh...quite a mutant.

Yer a Fuckin Jerkoff · Wed Sep 12, 2012 1:31 pm

DeMarcus Ware has 101.5 career sacks now in less than 100 career games if you need him. It's becoming ho hum as he got Eli twice Wednesday night. DeMarco Murray is looking like the league rushing champ, we just haven't seen him in a full season but you look at him physically and you can tell that he can carry 30 times a game if he had to and gets stronger as the game goes along. Dallas' upgrade in the secondary is already paying off, and Romo is making unknown receivers look like world-beaters once again.

Mikey · Post by **Mikey** » Wed Sep 12, 2012 2:55 pm

mvscal wrote:Geez. Yeah...he's uh...quite a mutant.

Looks like he's trying to cover up a camel toe there.

Shoalzie · Post by **Shoalzie** » Wed Sep 12, 2012 5:10 pm

He looks like Gruden with a bowl haircut, stuffed full of Cheetohs and you cut off oxygen to his brain...

ucantdoitdoggieSTyle2 · Wed Sep 12, 2012 5:27 pm

poptart wrote:

Is that Bucky Larson?

MgoBlue-LightSpecial · Wed Sep 12, 2012 10:52 pm

What in the fuck is that?