Watching the Debate?

Shlomart Ben Yisrael · Fri Oct 05, 2012 12:11 am

trev wrote:

So it's true then...you are into the plus-size dudes...

:|

trev · Post by **trev** » Fri Oct 05, 2012 12:14 am

I'm into a variety of dudes.

Shlomart Ben Yisrael · Fri Oct 05, 2012 12:24 am

trev wrote:I'm into a variety of dudes.

At the same time?

:(

Mikey · Post by **Mikey** » Fri Oct 05, 2012 12:32 am

Romney is counting on your ignorance and stupidity, and the fact that you haven't actually been listening to anything he said.

Looks like he was pretty successful here.

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Fri Oct 05, 2012 12:38 am

trev wrote:A lot of us help people every day. We just don't want to be forced into government tyranny. I don't want to "buy" Obamacare. I should have the freedom to buy my own healthcare.

I didn't realize they sold Vodka in Fantasyland.

ML@Coyote · Post by **ML@Coyote** » Fri Oct 05, 2012 1:21 am

Obama promised to turn the economy around in four years. Whatever his excuses, he failed to do so. The best thing that can happen for the disadvantaged is for the economy to roar forward. In fact, it is the best thing that can happen for all of us. Obama got himself into this mess by pretending to offer all the answers four years ago. He pretty clearly bit off more than he could chew. Now the shit is flying from both directions. You're a liar! They're all liars! He's a liar! She's a liar! If Obama had succeeded the way he said he could, none of this would be happening. He would be a shoe-in.

War Wagon · Post by **War Wagon** » Fri Oct 05, 2012 1:34 am

Mikey wrote:Romney is counting on your ignorance and stupidity, and the fact that you haven't actually been listening to anything he said.

Looks like he was pretty successful here.

of course, most all of those comments came from lib sources. They decided, after catching their breath and picking their sorry asses up off the canvass, to spin it that Romney lied... yeah, that's what happened.

I watched and listened to at least the first hour, but in reality, the debate was over in the first 20 minutes, a TKO after about 4 rounds.

What we witnessed last night was a superbly prepared challenger take a flustered, embarrassingly unprepared incumbent to the woodshed.

You can spin it otherwise, but that's what happened and anyone with an oz. of integrity would readily admit that.

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Fri Oct 05, 2012 1:38 am

Felix wrote:I'm one of those crazy people that believe that I owe something back to those less fortunate than I.....I donate enormous amounts of time and energy into helping people get off of welfare, the group I belong to buys and fixes up dwelling in order to provide those less fortunate a decent place to live.....we help them to find work which gives people meaning to their lives.

RACK it.

That's just downright conservative of you, Felix. An extremely conservative principle.

You DO know, that on the whole, republicans (which I'm not) donate a significantly higher percentage of their income to charity than dems, right?

But damn, Felix -- all the money you give to charity (RACK every bit of it, don't get me wrong)... wouldn't it be better spent on taxes, so the administration of it could burn up 80% of it, like every federal entitlement does?

You're one confused dude.

Forced charity isn't charity at all. And I doubt there's anyone on this board who doesn't give back to their community in some form or another (except LTS, who most likely doesn't). I do, although not as often as I should of late.

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Fri Oct 05, 2012 1:41 am

War Wagon wrote:
Mikey wrote:Romney is counting on your ignorance and stupidity, and the fact that you haven't actually been listening to anything he said.

Looks like he was pretty successful here.

of course, most all of those comments came from lib sources. They decided, after catching their breath and picking their sorry asses up off the canvass, to spin it that Romney lied... yeah, that's what happened. :meds:

I watched and listened to at least the first hour, but in reality, the debate was over in the first 20 minutes, a TKO after about 4 rounds.

What we witnessed last night was a superbly prepared challenger take a flustered, embarrassingly unprepared incumbent to the woodshed.

You can spin it otherwise, but that's what happened and anyone with an oz. of integrity would readily admit that.

Nice job, Mikey. It takes a real overachiever to make Wags right about something.

Someone had the nerve to cite those sources as a knock on Mittens? The media's battle over the sandbox has become pretty comical.

Mikey · Post by **Mikey** » Fri Oct 05, 2012 2:29 am

Dinsdale wrote:
Nice job, Mikey. It takes a real overachiever to make Wags right about something.

Someone had the nerve to cite those sources as a knock on Mittens? The media's battle over the sandbox has become pretty comical.

Wags is a fucking idiot. He just admitted that he didn't even watch the debate. OK, he had it on for the first hour but it was "over in the first 20 minutes." Wags prolly watched the first 10 minutes, got bored, spent 10 minutes pulling up some kiddie lesbo pron on his "laptop", and then yanked his shank for the next 40 minutes. Then he turned the TV off and fell asleep.

The ultimate example of what I was talking about. Ignorant, stupid, hasn't been listening all along, and still isn't. Saw that Romney seemed to have finally grown a pair, even if they were drug induced, and knew within 20 minutes who had "won" the debate. There's one really informed voter.

And you've seen fit to publicly attach your lips to his ballsack. Well OK. RACK you for thinking outside the box. I guess.

Wolfman · Post by **Wolfman** » Fri Oct 05, 2012 2:34 am

Some of you might want to take a chance on this:

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/lifestyle/2 ... e-country/

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Fri Oct 05, 2012 2:35 am

I'm just sayin'... those sources' nonpartisanship went past "questionable" a looooong time ago.

I'd tear into you much more deeply, but I'm too busy laughing at the kiddie-lesbo-porn blast.

War Wagon · Post by **War Wagon** » Fri Oct 05, 2012 2:48 am

Mikey wrote:Wags is a fucking idiot. He just admitted that he didn't even watch the debate. OK, he had it on for the first hour but it was "over in the first 20 minutes."

Look at your first post in this thread, you have the nerve to call me an idiot?

You're a shallow simpleton, content to wallow in ignorance and whatever MSNBC and the Daily Kos feed you. I never understood why Cali was such a lib bastion but with clueless wankers like you living there, it's not so surprising.

It was over in the first 20 minutes, which part of TKO didn't you understand? I watched the next 40 minutes or so because I like piling on dumb fucks like the Mikeys of this world.

MgoBlue-LightSpecial · Fri Oct 05, 2012 3:38 am

So let me see if I've got this straight.

Republicans who watched the debate thought Romney won.

Democrats who watched the debate thought Obama won.

NOBODY SAW IT COMING!!!11!!!

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Fri Oct 05, 2012 3:42 am

MgoBlue-LightSpecial wrote:So let me see if I've got this straight.

Republicans who watched the debate thought Romney won.

Democrats who watched the debate thought Obama won.

NOBODY SAW IT COMING!!!11!!!

If you read the thread, many of the dem pundits thought Idiot #2 Beat the pants off Idiot in Chief.

Mikey · Post by **Mikey** » Fri Oct 05, 2012 3:44 am

War Wagon wrote:
Mikey wrote:Wags is a fucking idiot. He just admitted that he didn't even watch the debate. OK, he had it on for the first hour but it was "over in the first 20 minutes."
Look at your first post in this thread, you have the nerve to call me an idiot?

Oh that's right. You're from KC, aren't you?

Yes, you're an idiot.

MgoBlue-LightSpecial · Fri Oct 05, 2012 3:46 am

Dude, this thread has gone the same way for 10 fucking years. I didn't read it and I still have a better grasp of its results than you do.

LTS TRN 2 · Post by **LTS TRN 2** » Fri Oct 05, 2012 4:35 am

ML@Coyote wrote: The best thing that can happen for the disadvantaged is for the economy to roar forward.

Um..you're aware that you're imitating a sign waver?

Sure he's a robot, but he's our robot!

LTS TRN 2 · Post by **LTS TRN 2** » Fri Oct 05, 2012 5:08 am

No, I also provided the concise quip. What? Why do you even try? Who's paying you?--you know, like the sign waver.. :doh:

Felix · Post by **Felix** » Fri Oct 05, 2012 5:31 am

MgoBlue-LightSpecial wrote:
Republicans who watched the debate thought Romney won.

he came across much better....but he's like a cloud, there appears to be something there, but the closer you get, the more you realize there's no substance.....he's got plans, he just doesn't know what they are yet.....

Democrats who watched the debate thought Obama won.

I didn't think obama did very well at all....he came across as disjointed and seemingly always on the defense....he had his chances to pound romney into the ground, just didn't capitalize on them.....

Dinsdale wrote:

That's just downright conservative of you, Felix. An extremely conservative principle.

Forced charity isn't charity at all. And I doubt there's anyone on this board who doesn't give back to their community in some form or another (except LTS, who most likely doesn't). I do, although not as often as I should of late.

it's neither conservative nor liberal....it's just the right thing to do
I'm fortunate in that I've been given opportunities not afforded to others.....my father, who was a staunch conservative provided me the principles that drive me....my mother, who was extremely liberal taught me that giving time and efforts to help those less fortunate is the greatest gift of all.....

everything I am, I owe to my parents......

Terry in Crapchester · Fri Oct 05, 2012 3:40 pm

Unemployment down to 7.8% per Department of Labor numbers released today. For those keeping score bu home, that's a 4-year low. Romney says he wants to see people back to work, but something tells me he doesn'u like those numbers. Not to mention that unemployment would actually be 1% lower if public sector hires had kept pace with the previous administration.

Terry in Crapchester · Fri Oct 05, 2012 3:51 pm

Unemployment down to 7.8% per Department of Labor numbers released today. For those keeping score at home, that's a 4-year low. Romney says he wants to see people back to work, but something tells me he doesn'u like those numbers. Not to mention that unemployment would actually be 1% lower if public sector hires had kept pace with the previous administration.

MgoBlue-LightSpecial · Fri Oct 05, 2012 5:12 pm

^^$100 says Tubby is on some kind of government assistance and/or workers comp.

MgoBlue-LightSpecial · Fri Oct 05, 2012 5:14 pm

The fact you replied in 16 seconds and didn't refute it means I rest my case.

mvscal · Post by **mvscal** » Fri Oct 05, 2012 5:36 pm

Felix wrote:I'm one of those crazy people that believe that I owe something back to those less fortunate than I...

So is Mitt Romney. He donates a larger percentage of his (much larger) income than Bath House Barry does.

Deal with it, faggot.

mvscal · Post by **mvscal** » Fri Oct 05, 2012 5:51 pm

MgoBlue-LightSpecial wrote:So let me see if I've got this straight.

Republicans who watched the debate thought Romney won.

Democrats who watched the debate thought Obama won.

WRONG.

@lgore wouldn't be making lame excuses about the altitude if he thought Barry won. Chris 'Tingle' wouldn't have had a hysterical meltdown in the aftermath of the debate if he thought Barry won. Rachel Madcow wouldn't have been speechless in stunned disbelief if she thought her turd colored hero won. Ed Schultz wouldn't be claiming that Barry was too confused and overwhelmed by all of Romney's "lies" that he didn't know where to begin his attack. Sociology professors being interviewed on MSNBC wouldn't be claiming that Barry felt that he couldn't risk a vigorous defense of his (laughable) record without being branded "an angry black man" if he thought Oskidmark won the debate. CNN's own poll showed a 67% - 25% Romney advantage.

This was one of the most complete wipeouts in the history of American Presidential debates and 67 million people saw it. You might want to sit this one out because you clearly don't know what the fuck you're talking about.

Mikey · Post by **Mikey** » Fri Oct 05, 2012 6:47 pm

mvscal wrote:
Felix wrote:I'm one of those crazy people that believe that I owe something back to those less fortunate than I...
So is Mitt Romney. He donates a larger percentage of his (much larger) income than Bath House Barry does.

Deal with it, faggot.

Mainly to his church or to a charity that he runs. I'd like to see where that money actually ends up, prolly most of it in the LDS interplanetary futures fund.

mvscal · Post by **mvscal** » Fri Oct 05, 2012 6:55 pm

Mikey wrote:Mainly to his church or to a charity that he runs.

So? Are you suggesting that his church or these "charities that he runs" don't help the less fortunate or are you just talking out your ass?

LTS TRN 2 · Post by **LTS TRN 2** » Fri Oct 05, 2012 6:57 pm

Damn straight, Mikey. The Mormon cult is a lot scarier than most folks want to acknowledge. As for the debate, Mittens was just making vague and hollw attacks while offering nothing whatever in terms of clear ideas. His so-called "business experience' is nothing more than rapacious slash and burn profiteering, creating no actual products or jobs at all. He's so fucking disgusting it's beyond belief.

mvscal · Post by **mvscal** » Fri Oct 05, 2012 6:59 pm

LTS TRN 2 wrote:His so-called "business experience' is nothing more than rapacious slash and burn profiteering, creating no actual products or jobs at all.

A bald face lie.

mvscal · Post by **mvscal** » Fri Oct 05, 2012 7:31 pm

Keep telling yourself that, dumbfuck.

LTS TRN 2 · Post by **LTS TRN 2** » Fri Oct 05, 2012 8:11 pm

mvscal wrote:
LTS TRN 2 wrote:His so-called "business experience' is nothing more than rapacious slash and burn profiteering, creating no actual products or jobs at all.
A bald face lie.

As usual, nothing whatever to back up your statement.

In fact Bain Capital was simply a leveraged buyout machine, exactly like the Gordon Gekko model from the movie Wall St. Like Gekko, Romney likes to say he "helped" companies he acquired.

Here's how Romney would go about "liberating" a company: A private equity firm like Bain typically seeks out floundering businesses with good cash flows. It then puts down a relatively small amount of its own money and runs to a big bank like Goldman Sachs or Citigroup for the rest of the financing. (Most leveraged buyouts are financed with 60 to 90 percent borrowed cash.) The takeover firm then uses that borrowed money to buy a controlling stake in the target company, either with or without its consent. When an LBO is done without the consent of the target, it's called a hostile takeover; such thrilling acts of corporate piracy were made legend in the Eighties, most notably the 1988 attack by notorious corporate raiders Kohlberg Kravis Roberts against RJR Nabisco, a deal memorialized in the book Barbarians at the Gate.

Romney and Bain avoided the hostile approach, preferring to secure the cooperation of their takeover targets by buying off a company's management with lucrative bonuses. Once management is on board, the rest is just math. So if the target company is worth $500 million, Bain might put down $20 million of its own cash, then borrow $350 million from an investment bank to take over a controlling stake.

But here's the catch. When Bain borrows all of that money from the bank, it's the target company that ends up on the hook for all of the debt.

So, Mall Cop, once again your as is officially handed to you.

mvscal · Post by **mvscal** » Fri Oct 05, 2012 8:48 pm

LTS TRN 2 wrote:In fact Bain Capital was simply a leveraged buyout machine,

Another bald face lie.

The firm was founded in 1984 by partners from the consulting firm Bain & Company. Since inception it has invested in or acquired hundreds of companies including AMC Entertainment, Aspen Education Group, Brookstone, Burger King, Burlington Coat Factory, Clear Channel Communications, Domino's Pizza, DoubleClick, Dunkin' Donuts, D&M Holdings, Guitar Center, Hospital Corporation of America (HCA), Sealy, The Sports Authority, Staples, Toys "R" Us, Warner Music Group and The Weather Channel.

Run along now, dipshit.

LTS TRN 2 · Post by **LTS TRN 2** » Fri Oct 05, 2012 9:34 pm

mvscal wrote:
LTS TRN 2 wrote:In fact Bain Capital was simply a leveraged buyout machine,
Another bald face lie.

The firm was founded in 1984 by partners from the consulting firm Bain & Company. Since inception it has invested in or acquired hundreds of companies including AMC Entertainment, Aspen Education Group, Brookstone, Burger King, Burlington Coat Factory, Clear Channel Communications, Domino's Pizza, DoubleClick, Dunkin' Donuts, D&M Holdings, Guitar Center, Hospital Corporation of America (HCA), Sealy, The Sports Authority, Staples, Toys "R" Us, Warner Music Group and The Weather Channel.
Run along now, dipshit.

What, is that some straight from some brochure? What a joke. Look, here's a clear example of exactly how the "job creation" of Mittens operated at Bain..

A typical Bain transaction involved an Indiana-based company called American Pad and Paper. Bain bought Ampad in 1992 for just $5 million, financing the rest of the deal with borrowed cash. Within three years, Ampad was paying $60 million in annual debt payments, plus an additional $7 million in management fees. A year later, Bain led Ampad to go public, cashed out about $50 million in stock for itself and its investors, charged the firm $2 million for arranging the IPO and pocketed another $5 million in "management" fees. Ampad wound up going bankrupt, and hundreds of workers lost their jobs, but Bain and Romney weren't crying: They'd made more than $100 million on a $5 million investment.

Hypocritically, Romney, who has compared the devilish federal debt to a "nightmare" home mortgage that is "adjustable, no-money down and assigned to our children," took over Ampad with essentially no money down, saddled the firm with a nightmare debt and assigned the crushing interest payments not to Bain but to the children of Ampad's workers, who would be left holding the note long after Romney fled the scene. The mortgage analogy is so obvious, in fact, that even Romney himself has made it. He once described Bain's debt-fueled strategy as "using the equivalent of a mortgage to leverage up our investment."

And you're reduced to snarling "niggger" smears at Barry? You are one weird little fuck indeed.

Mikey · Post by **Mikey** » Fri Oct 05, 2012 9:46 pm

Jsc810 wrote:
KC Scott wrote:they're playing with the numbers

Tony Fratto,former spokesman for George W. Bush,tweeted that Bureau of Labor Statistics "is not manipulating data...Stop with the dumb conspiracy theories. Good grief."

Some lib hacked this tweeter account.

MgoBlue-LightSpecial · Fri Oct 05, 2012 11:09 pm

mvscal wrote:WRONG.

@lgore wouldn't be making lame excuses about the altitude if he thought Barry won. Chris 'Tingle' wouldn't have had a hysterical meltdown in the aftermath of the debate if he thought Barry won. Rachel Madcow wouldn't have been speechless in stunned disbelief if she thought her turd colored hero won. Ed Schultz wouldn't be claiming that Barry was too confused and overwhelmed by all of Romney's "lies" that he didn't know where to begin his attack. Sociology professors being interviewed on MSNBC wouldn't be claiming that Barry felt that he couldn't risk a vigorous defense of his (laughable) record without being branded "an angry black man" if he thought Oskidmark won the debate. CNN's own poll showed a 67% - 25% Romney advantage.

This was one of the most complete wipeouts in the history of American Presidential debates and 67 million people saw it. You might want to sit this one out because you clearly don't know what the fuck you're talking about.

Umm, smart guy? I was referring to the posters here. Dinsdale, only lucid about two hours a day, realized that.

Anyway, the CNN poll is telling, no doubt. The rest of your take is meaningless bluster.

Mikey · Post by **Mikey** » Fri Oct 05, 2012 11:12 pm

Sure was gratifying to see Mitt "Pit Bull" Romney come out and put that uppity mvscal in his place.

About damn time somebody did that.

ML@Coyote · Post by **ML@Coyote** » Fri Oct 05, 2012 11:14 pm

Felix wrote:
Dinsdale wrote:

That's just downright conservative of you, Felix. An extremely conservative principle.

Forced charity isn't charity at all. And I doubt there's anyone on this board who doesn't give back to their community in some form or another (except LTS, who most likely doesn't). I do, although not as often as I should of late.
it's neither conservative nor liberal....it's just the right thing to do
I'm fortunate in that I've been given opportunities not afforded to others.....my father, who was a staunch conservative provided me the principles that drive me....my mother, who was extremely liberal taught me that giving time and efforts to help those less fortunate is the greatest gift of all.....

everything I am, I owe to my parents......

My mom was also a die-hard liberal. She too taught me to help those less fortunate. But she, like most liberals I think, believed this was an important role for government to take. I think when government takes over this role, people feel less inclined to give their own time and effort. They figure the taxes they pay go to help the needy, that by paying taxes they are doing their fair share. Your own personal efforts are to be commended. More people should do the same. This kind of altruism is certainly more efficient and rewarding. Unfortunately, our government has told us, "We'll do this for you." "We'll decide who should and shouldn't get help." "We'll decide how much help they should get." For this reason, this is what we're up against. I think DIns is right, that it is a conservative vs liberal issue. I don't think it's a stretch to say conservatives more than liberals believe in what you are doing.

Mikey · Post by **Mikey** » Fri Oct 05, 2012 11:19 pm

ML@Coyote wrote: I don't think it's a stretch to say conservatives more than liberals believe in what you are doing.

Typical self-glossing delusional bullshit.

Shlomart Ben Yisrael · Fri Oct 05, 2012 11:24 pm

ML@Coyote wrote:"We'll decide who should and shouldn't get help."

Apparently, your government decided the banks should get help.

ML@Coyote wrote:I think DIns is right, that it is a conservative vs liberal issue.

No it isn't. Just stop.