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don't know how James Franklin will be for Mizzou this year. if he hadn't injured his shoulder in the spring, he'd knock every SEC defender into the second round of the draft. there would be shame across the south from people who couldn't hang with James. but hs injury got me worried. that and the fucking injury every single OLineman has right now.
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Something else to keep in mind is that Jordan Jefferson wowed lots of people at last year's camps.

Sam, just about every QB at the D1 level can make the throws and look decent in shorts and a t-shirt. It's when the whistle blows, the defense comes at them and quick decisions need to be made that they have to shine.
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OK, one more time for the SEC Folk...

Why is straight-up, pure speculation that some guys might play well this coming season only applicable to SEC QBs? Doesn't that same logic apply to... let's say... EVERY OTHER CONFERENCE?

Take your time, and think about your answer before you submit it, Sam (and I'll give you a hint -- there is no "good answer," except "I'm sorry, I was acting the SECBSH Idiot").
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Sudden Sam wrote:No conference has 6-8 QBs as solid as the SEC this year.
You know as much about QBs in other conferences as southerners do about diet & exercise.
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"6-8 solid QBs" means that 2 pretty good ones return, one mediocre one returns, and some people think 5 of them might play well, even though they never have before?

But when some people think that conferences not named SEC might have some unknowns play well also, that's invalid, and they're not "deep" like the SEC, based on the exact same speculation, even though at least 4 other BCS conferences bring back much bettr QBs.

Am I mssing something here... like the SECBSHs' ability to put on the moron-colored glasses?
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Sudden Sam wrote:Jordan Jefferson wowed himself at the Manning Camp.
It was hardly just himself. Lots of people coming out of that one camp (I think it was even the Peyton/Eli camp) were singing his praises, warning of the monster year he was going to have.
Tyler Bray (a Cali kid) has all the potential in the world. Tyler Wilson is a stud. Mettenberger is GOD apparently. McCarron is going downfield this year with his repaired arm. Kiehl Frazier at Auburn is the second coming of Cam Newton...so I'm told by all the Aubs around here.
Nothing but potential. Every D1 QB has potential. Potential alone doesn't make them quality QBs.
No conference has 6-8 QBs as solid as the SEC this year.
Three or four do. The SEC's QBs haven't shown anything yet. If you're going to call them "quality" and "solid" just for their potential, then you have to do that for everyone else too.
The PAC has some excellent QBs. So does the ACC. But not the depth of quality QBing that you'll see this year in the SEC.
What we're going to see in the SEC this year is more of the same: primitive smashmouth football. The passing numbers SEC QBs put up will again be dwarfed by those put up by QBs in other major conferences, particularly the Big XII and Pac 12.

Is it the schemes? Is it the lack of quality QBs in the SEC? Chicken or egg? Regardless, we aren't going to see any unusual spike in the quality of play from SEC QBs. If anything, what with there being so many rookies taking over the position, we're going to see a marked drop-off in production.
This ain't SECBSHism!
Yes, it is. You're gushing over the quality of your QBs based on nothing but their perceived potential, even going so far as to say your conference has the best overall talent at the position, and you're not applying that same silly thinking to any other conference.

That's pure SECBSH-ism.
Why is any comment about something good about the SEC immediately dismissed as SECBSHing? :grin:
Because we're not idiots. It usually is precisely what it appears to be.
We actually have some good QBs for a change, goddammit!
That remains to be seen. Show it on the field. Put up some real numbers, then talk.
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What you're going to enjoy are a whole bunch of defensive struggles with inept offensive play featuring stone-aged passing attacks, the same as most every year. You're going to enjoy watching really big and fast defensive front sevens terrorizing those primitive offenses, the same as every year. You're going to get giddy at the mere sight of your QB completing two eleven-yard seam routes to the TE...the same as every year.

You're then going to gush over how much better they look this year and how much betterer they're going to be next year, exactly as you do every year.
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No conference has 6-8 QBs as solid as the SEC this year.

This ain't SECBSHism!


I'd think this is some sorta joke... but knowing it's coming from an SECBSH I know he's dead serious.


Do you even own a television set that carries games from other conferences ???
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I'm gonna defend Sam on this one...in the sweltering so cal heat, the levity he's providing is welcome.

I will put the stats at season's end of the RS Freshman Hundley against any of the SEC...finally rid of most of the Skippy stench, this kid was a nice 5* and the 3rd ranked nationally from his class...which combined with his speed and the hurry up offense, will make some in the U&L wonder how he got away....
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You know, I could be wrong, but that really didn't seem much like a defense of Sam.

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Back to McCarron. It's not that he "sucks," it's that nobody really knows anything about him. Could he be some all-world stud? Maybe, but we don't know because he's never really had his mettle tested. He has the luxury of playing behind the best offensive line in college football, and his primary job is to receive the snap and place the ball into the RB's ribcage without fumbling, and occasionally complete a short pass to a wide open receiver out of play-action. Do that, and you can play QB at Alabama (Sup Greg McElroy?). In addition to that, he's got the luxury of a dominant defense that's rarely going to put him in tense situations. Let's see him run a two minute drill and go 80 yards for the go-ahead TD late in the 4th quarter, then I'll tell you what I think of AJ McCarron. But, he likely won't be faced with any such adversity this year, and maybe that's unfair to him, but it's also a pretty damn nice position to be in.
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Wait. Aren't Greg McElroy and AJ McCarron the same person?
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We don't know that your guys are "super studs." You're still merely in the hoping stage. You haven't seen many of them throw a single pass during a game that counts.

Meanwhile, yes, we'll definitely be calling guys like Barkley and Landry the superior QBs because they've proven it time and again while handling much greater workloads including far more sophisticated passing attacks. There is zero doubt that those guys are better, the fact of which will be confirmed not only by their towering production but also by the clearly stated opinions of NFL GMs within the first dozen or so selections of the draft.
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Sudden Sam wrote:Listen, I'm the first to admit the SEC hasn't been a QB-producing juggernaut for some time. But who has 6-8 guys the quality of the SEC this year?

Hmmmmmmm?
The Pac 12, the B1G, and the Big XII.
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This.

Spent some time out on the InterWebs yesterday looking to see if there was any validity Sam's contention. The consenus appears to be that, while better than in recent years, the quarterback play in the SEC will still finish a distant fourth to the three conferences you listed, Van.

Still trying to figure out how quarterback play, good or otherwise, even relates to the SEC. Hell, I'm not convinced these people even play offense in this league...

I was amused to read, however, the surprise of many who post on SEC homer-boards of James Franklin's production. Of course, none of his 36 tuddies last season came at the expense of an SEC defense... :meds:
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[quote="Sudden Sam"]
Okay. These arguments can't possibly be resolved, can they? Even at season's end, it'll be "there's no defense n the Big 12 or PAC 58, so anyone could put up big #s at QB" and "the SEC defenses are so fast and strong that no QB can put up good stats."
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Not enough inter-conference games...
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Sam wrote:Okay. These arguments can't possibly be resolved, can they? Even at season's end, it'll be "there's no defense n the Big 12 or PAC 58, so anyone could put up big #s at QB" and "the SEC defenses are so fast and strong SEC offenses are so primitive that no QB can put up good stats."
FTFY.

How nice of you, though, that even in your supposed attempt to be fair and reasonable you still framed it in such a way as to denigrate the Pac 12 and Big XII while praising the SEC. Your SECBSH-ism so firmly ingrained that apparently you're not even capable of giving a decent backhanded compliment to other conferences.
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Before he blew his knee out, he was a Top Five QB. He was well above average.
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Well, as it turns out, it would appear that the SEC does indeed have the most depth...

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but none of them could beat Usain Bolt in a race...

so the B1G pwns all your asses...



actually I do like Murray and Tyler Wilson...and I think Zach Mettenburger will wind up being a stud...but Bray is coming off an injury...and McCarron will benefit from a HUGE OL and a B1G type of offense (POWER RUN and as stated don't fuck up intermediate passing)...
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Mid-season thoughts?
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Carson wrote:Mid-season thoughts?

the Manziel kid at ATM is having a nice year...admittedly within "system"...but 11 td's and 2 ints. top 4-5 QB rating in the SEC. he's not mentioned in the thread as Tannehill's successor...unproven...but kid is doing a nice job. only the close loss to UF (at Kyle)....as a blemish to the Ag record...though they did struggle at Ole Miss (where UT had their way with the Rebs)....and i was hoping to pick against the Ags at La Tech this week but the rescheduled game didn't make the pickem.

Geno Smith's 24 TD's and 0 INTS is a pretty gaudy number.

David Ash leads Landy Jones in every category i think....

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Sam needs to come eat some crow. The SEC QBs are shit, per the norm.
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Sudden Sam wrote:
SunCoastSooner wrote:Sam needs to come eat some crow. The SEC QBs are shit, per the norm.
Really?

Mettenberger was over-hyped, for sure. He's a disaster and Nick's D will catch as many of his passes as Tiger receivers do.

McCarron is a top QB. As good as any in the country. Wouldn't trade him for anyone. He's accurate, makes no mistakes, and can read a defense as well as anybody. Great leader as well.

Bray is very good. Murray is very good. Wilson is very good. Russell (MSU) is good. The kid at A&M (Manziel) is great..so I hear. Haven't seen him at all. Driskel is really good. Getting better every week, too.

Shaw is meh. Rodgers is okay. Wallace is average or worse. Don't even know Kentucky's QB9Ss). Missouri's QB situation is a mess due to injuries. And Auburn's QBing? Ummmmm...maybe the worst in the country.

It's a shame these "duds" don't get to throw against defenses the likes of Baylor, West Virginia, Texas, etc. Then they could have the gaudy, shiny numbers that impress you folks. I'll take McCarron's passing efficiency #s any day.

7 or 8 very good to excellent QBs ain't too bad for a conference, is it?
Jesus Sam, you take SECBSHism to a whole new level each season . . .

Quarterbacks in the top 10 of QB rating:
SEC - 1
Big 12 - 5
Pac 12 - 1

11-20:
SEC - 2
Big 12 - 2
Pac 12 - 0

21-30:
SEC - 2
Big 12 - 1
Pac 12 - 1

31-40:
SEC - 1
Big 12 - 1
Pac 12 - 1

41-50:
SEC - 1
Big 12 - 1
Pac 12 - 3

Total in the top 50:
SEC - 7 (only half of the starting QBs in the conference)
Big 12 - 10 (as in every starting quarterback in the conference)
Pac 12 - 6 (half of the starting QBs in the conference)

The SEC barely has as many quarterbacks in the top 30 of quarterback rating as the Big 12 has in the top 10 alone!!!

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QBs in the top 10 of QB completion percentage:
SEC - 0
Big 12 - 3
Pac 12 - 0

11-20:
SEC - 2
Big 12 - 1
Pac 12 - 2


21-30:
SEC - 3
Big 12 - 2
Pac 12 - 1

31-40:
SEC - 0
Big 12 - 2
Pac 12 - 2

41-50:
SEC - 1
Big 12 - 2
Pac 12 - 3

Total in the top 50:
SEC - 6 (less than half the starting QBs in the conference)
Big 12 - 10 (every single starting quarterback in the conference)
Pac 12 - 8 (slightly more than half of the starting QBs in the conference)
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I think it is pretty freaking clear what conference is the quarterback conference . . . and it isn't even close. The SEC is comparable to the Pac 12 and that's about it.

SamUnwise, you have so much SEC cock and balls rolling around in your mouth you can't even think rationally. At best description the SEC is an average quarterback conference. The Big 12 is undoubtedly the best quarterback conference in the country and there isn't even a rational argument to be made otherwise.
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Papa Willie wrote:SCS - it's easy to have high QB ratings when you're playing defenses that give up 60 a game. Tell me you knew.
Funny . . . Teams in the Big 12 giving up more than 30 points a game, three. Teams in the SEC giving up more than 30 points a game, 3.

Teams in the Big 12 Giving up less than 21 points a game, five. Teams in the SEC giving up less than 21 points a game, five.

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Sudden Sam wrote:Texas A&M and Missouri are still Big 12 defenses (obviously). Without looking, I'm pretty certain those two teams are amongst the worst defenses in CFB. They are skewing SEC #s severely.
No, they're SEC defenses. The logo on the uniform proves it.

If it helps any, they weren't very good over there either...
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Papa Willie wrote:
SunCoastSooner wrote:
Papa Willie wrote:SCS - it's easy to have high QB ratings when you're playing defenses that give up 60 a game. Tell me you knew.
Funny . . . Teams in the Big 12 giving up more than 30 points a game, three. Teams in the SEC giving up more than 30 points a game, 3.

Teams in the Big 12 Giving up less than 21 points a game, five. Teams in the SEC giving up less than 21 points a game, five.

Feel free to remove your foot from your own ass anytime you like.

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Why didn't you just go Top 10? Oh wait - never mind.


Wouldn't passing defense be a decent indicator?
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Big 12 - 3 in the top 50. SEC - 8 in the top 50.

Never mind - I'm sure you're going to respond with your typical B12BSH shit about "you're so SECBSH". We're pretty used to it.
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I'm shocked you have such great defensive statistics based on having five teams ranked below 50th in SOS currently and six teams ranked below the lowest SOS for a Big 12 school (Oklahoma State 28th). The SEC isn't even done playing Sun Belt teams this year either . . . that takes some serious scheduling talent.
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Papa Willie wrote:
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I'm shocked you have such great defensive statistics based on having five teams ranked below 50th in SOS currently and six teams ranked below the lowest SOS for a Big 12 school (Oklahoma State 28th). The SEC isn't even done playing Sun Belt teams this year either . . . that takes some serious scheduling talent.
You couldn't suck the Big12's cock anymore if you had to. And you guys aren't supposed to do that. Remember?

This thread is total proof of that, too.
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Papa Willie wrote:Current starting QB's in the NFL (from the big conferences):

SEC - 7
ACC - 6
Big 12 - 6
Pac 12 - 5
Big 10 - 3
They didn't teach you to count in grade school did they?

Fitzpatrick - Ivy (1)
Tannehill - Big 12 (1) unless aTm switched conferences long before this season.
Brady - B10 (1)
Sanchez - Pac (1)
Flacco - FCS (1)
Dalton - MWC (1) See how that works?
Weeden - (Big 12 (2)
Roethlisberger - MAC (1)
Schaub - ACC (1)
Luck - PAC (2)
Gabbert - Big 12 (3) Oh you wanted credit for another transplant after the fact huh?
Hasselbeck - Big East (1)
Manning - SEC (1)
Quinn - Indy (1)
Palmer - Pac (3)
Rivers - ACC (2)
Romo - FCS (2)
Manning - SEC (2)
Vick - Big East (2)
Griffin III - Big 12 (4)
Cutler - SEC (2)
Stafford - SEC (3)
Rodgers - PAC (4)
Ponder - ACC (3)
Ryan - Big East (3)
Newton - SEC (4)
Brees - B10 (2)
Freeman - Big 12 (5)
Kolb -CUSA (1)
Smith - MWC (2)
Wilson - B10 (3)
Bradford - Big 12 (6)


Final Talley:
Big 12 -6
PAC - 4
SEC - 4
B10 - 3
Big East - 3
ACC - 3
Big East - 2
MWC - 2
FCS - 2
Indy - 1
CUSA - 1
Ivy - 1

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Mace wrote:
Papa Willie wrote:
SunCoastSooner wrote:
I'm shocked you have such great defensive statistics based on having five teams ranked below 50th in SOS currently and six teams ranked below the lowest SOS for a Big 12 school (Oklahoma State 28th). The SEC isn't even done playing Sun Belt teams this year either . . . that takes some serious scheduling talent.
You couldn't suck the Big12's cock anymore if you had to. And you guys aren't supposed to do that. Remember?

This thread is total proof of that, too.
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You can get in line behind your ass buddy. I'll free to let you up for air when you beat Oklahoma . . . or even a Big 12 team for that matter.
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Sudden Sam wrote:Ask Gary Pinkel which conference is easier to compete in.

Injuries or not, he's seen enough by now to have a handle on it.
Get over yourself, Homer: Listening to Pinkel on the radio as I have every Monday night in-season over the past 10 years, I can PROMISE you I have never once heard the man utter anything that remotely suggested that conference play was easy.

You missed my point, Sammy... If Missouri played in the XII this year, their defensive stats would drag down conference numbers just as readily as they currently do in the SEC. Mizzou would suck in either league this season.
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SunCoastSooner wrote:
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Injuries happen.

If Gary Pinkel takes anything away from Mizzou's inaugural season in the SEC, it's this:

You might be able to account for an injury-or-six and finish a banged-up 7th or 8th in a league like the XII, but that dog won't hunt in the SEC. You better have some depth if you wanna play in this league.
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On a vaguely related note, re: SEC QBs...

So, my good buddy and work partner (semi-pro "superstar" RB) had a reunion game against the archrival high school (which would be Glencoe). Lo and behold, Glencoe kept their QB secret, who everybody thought wasn't coming...

But Erik Ainge, successful SEC QB and NFL clipboard jockey showed up...


And got his freaking clock cleaned. As the witnesses said, "Damn, I wouldn't want that guy starting for my high school team. What happened?"


Fucker got picked off by a 52 year old DB for 6 (dude should have kept running with the ball straight to his car, since he broke his ankle on the next play from scrimmage). I guess the best part was the old fucker outrunning Ainge on the runback.

Because SEC QBs just aren't athletic enough to play Out West, unless you pay them $180K.


BTW -- my buddy had 3 tuddies on 6 touches... about 100 rushing and 100 recieving out of the backfield... then coach benched him (making sure everyone got to play, since many traveled in addition to paying money to play)... then the AD offered him a coaching job. He wanted to line up at safety and take a crack at Ainge, too (who apparently is such a dick, he wasn't invited to the after-party... never knew that).
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Wait... QBs in feeble, Old Man dink-and-dunk offenses put up decent ratings?

Damn, who knew?
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Actually, of those guys, I'm off the PAC QB bandwagon... I think I'd take Steady Teddy Bridgewater over any of them.


Dude is quietly having an amazing season, and since he's in the Big Least, no one cares.
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Sudden Sam wrote:
Dinsdale wrote:Actually, of those guys, I'm off the PAC QB bandwagon... I think I'd take Steady Teddy Bridgewater over any of them.

Dude is quietly having an amazing season, and since he's in the Big Least, no one cares.
The little I've seen of him, he's darn good.

Don't mind me -- I'm going thrfough my midseason meaningless bandwagon phase, and exalting my new totally non-gay CFB mancrush.

Hell, the U of L fan I've been hanging with had to stream the freaking game, since out of the 11 channels showing games all day, Louisville wasn't an option. I think there might have een a Syracuse game on at some point, which is odd with 2 crappy BE teams, when Louisville is the class of the BE, with one of the very best players in the country leading the charge. Seems like the networks would be eager to hype another star, but Louisville gets no love.

Speaking of the anemic BE -- they've got 3 decent teams this season (arguably), and Bridgewater returns next season (most likely, although I believe he redshirted, so he could go), and the conference adds BSU and TCU, if'n I'm not mistaken. They won't be quite the laughingstock they have been of late.
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I'll comment -- Murray is quite good.

If you think I'd (or any D1 coach) would take any of that SEC crop besides Murray over a Geno, Klein, Bridgewater, or maybe even Barkely, you're fucking nuts.
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Steady Teddy went 23/28 (82%) against North Carolina, who was supposed to have a good defense this year.

But really, Louisville's schedule makes Oregon and Bama look like they've played the Giants and Patriots.

But if you get a chance, check him out. The couplefew UL games I've seen, they're unbeaten because the feeble freaking recievers on the feeble offense run a route, and the ball magically appears in their hands.

He might possibly get my Heisman vote, if I had one. Just a really good player... from Florida, I believe.
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So my Hillsboro-area homies weren't lying about Erik Ainge's dickishness?

What a douche. Absolutely no place for that in any sport, much less NCAA football. We can go back and forth about McCarron's professional potential, but if shitbags go after his amateur knees, whatever professional potential he has takes a dump.

I'll make fun of McCarron and the Old Man offense he plays til the cows come home, but I'd never wish any harm on him.


Too bad my buddy didn't get the chance to back up his shit at that game -- on the webpage back-and-forth between the schools in the alumni game for months prior (I spend 24/7 with the guy when we work out of town, so I was well up on it), all the Glencoe people kept saying "If Erik Ainge plays, you guys have no chance."

His response was "If Erik Ainge shows up, I'll ask to play safety. Expect a lot of blitzes."


Maybe you or one of your buddies (I know how much you guys love Tenn) should call his show and ask how his HS alumni game went... and ask him if he got outrun by a 52 year old taking it to the house. Might be some good fun.
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