Remembering toddowen

Shlomart Ben Yisrael · Sun Dec 02, 2012 1:55 am

This is what you want, right todd? This is why you've been hovering about, lurking...waiting for someone to start a:
"Hey, remember toddowen? This place certainly is diminished without his presence"

type thread...

Well...

...here you go, faggot. Here's the appreciation thread you so desperately craved you'd one day get.
Revel in it, you oedipal chicken-choker. Go ahead and collect all the toys you threw out of your crib when you had your cry-baby-fest and stormed off in a (wholly unnoticed) huff.

You owe me one.

mvscal · Post by **mvscal** » Sun Dec 02, 2012 1:56 am

Left Seater · Post by **Left Seater** » Sun Dec 02, 2012 1:57 am

Who is this Toddowen you reference? Is that a former poster?

MgoBlue-LightSpecial · Sun Dec 02, 2012 2:21 am

Left Seater wrote:Who is this Toddowen you reference? Is that a former poster?

An angry, drunken, lonely 3rd-shift machinist who openly lusts over his mother, children and tortures animals for fun. Couldn't get a woman without a roll of duct tape and a bottle of chloroform, though I don't think he's got the interest anyway. Lives on the east coast but takes random vacations to California where he "conveniently" ends up just blocks away from the largest outdoor gay party in the United States, then rushes to the board to say how disgusted he is over it all by posting pictures of young, shirtless dudes grinding on each other.

But other than that he's a solid dude.

Ken · Post by **Ken** » Sun Dec 02, 2012 2:26 am

Martyred wrote:This is what you want, right todd? This is why you've been hovering about, lurking...waiting for someone to start a:
"Hey, remember toddowen? This place certainly is diminished without his presence"

type thread...

Well...

...here you go, faggot. Here's the appreciation thread you so desperately craved you'd one day get.
Revel in it, you oedipal chicken-choker. Go ahead and collect all the toys you threw out of your crib when you had your cry-baby-fest and stormed off in a (wholly unnoticed) huff.

You owe me one.

Rack it...

Shlomart Ben Yisrael · Sun Dec 02, 2012 2:29 am

MgoBlue-LightSpecial wrote:
Left Seater wrote:Who is this Toddowen you reference? Is that a former poster?
An angry, drunken, lonely 3rd-shift machinist who openly lusts over his mother, children and tortures animals for fun. Couldn't get a woman without a roll of duct tape and a bottle of chloroform, though I don't think he's got the interest anyway. Lives on the east coast but takes random vacations to California where he "conveniently" ends up just blocks away from the largest outdoor gay party in the United States, then rushes to the board to say how disgusted he is over it all by posting pictures of young, shirtless dudes grinding on each other.

But other than that he's a solid dude.

You forgot about the time he finally broke character after all those years when, after one of his particularly vitriolic anti-cop rants, Luther threatened to shove his service firearm down his throat and play Russian Roulette. todd soiled himself and Luther took an "extended" vacation from the board.

Mace · Post by **Mace** » Sun Dec 02, 2012 2:56 am

That whole machinist thing may have been bullshit. Is it possible that toddowen was a linebacker for the Chiefs?

Diego in Seattle · Post by **Diego in Seattle** » Sun Dec 02, 2012 3:23 am

MgoBlue-LightSpecial wrote:
Left Seater wrote:Who is this Toddowen you reference? Is that a former poster?
An angry, drunken, lonely 3rd-shift machinist

Toddowen was AP?

War Wagon · Post by **War Wagon** » Sun Dec 02, 2012 3:52 am

Mace wrote:That whole machinist thing may have been bullshit.

nah, he knew way too much about it... types of mills, lathes, techniques etc.

Is it possible that toddowen was a linebacker for the Chiefs?

pure class.

Mace · Post by **Mace** » Sun Dec 02, 2012 3:56 am

War Wagon wrote:
Mace wrote:That whole machinist thing may have been bullshit.
nah, he knew way too much about it... types of mills, lathes, techniques etc.

Is it possible that toddowen was a linebacker for the Chiefs?
pure class.

Defending a gutless, murdering piece of shit just because he played for your team?

War Wagon · Post by **War Wagon** » Sun Dec 02, 2012 4:04 am

Mace

You don't know anything about the circumstances of why this happened, none of us do, yet that you won't keep you from running your big mouth or C & P pasting entire quotes for the sake of looking like the idiot you've lately shown yourself to be.

Mace · Post by **Mace** » Sun Dec 02, 2012 4:10 am

War Wagon wrote:Mace

You don't know anything about the circumstances of why this happened, none of us do, yet that you won't keep you from running your big mouth or C & P pasting entire quotes for the sake of looking like the idiot you've lately shown yourself to be.

I know that he had domestic dispute with his girlfriend and shot her multiple times in front of a witness....and then drove to Arrowhead and shot himself. Yeah, he's a real fuckin' American hero that just happened to play on the worst fuckin' football team in the NFL. Now go fuck yourself and try reading the news reports once in awhile.

War Wagon · Post by **War Wagon** » Sun Dec 02, 2012 4:13 am

You know what happened, you don't know why it happened.

Of course, that won't slow your rush to judgement.

Mace · Post by **Mace** » Sun Dec 02, 2012 4:18 am

War Wagon wrote:You know what happened, you don't know why it happened.

Of course, that won't slow your rush to judgement.

He shot and killed his girlfriend and then himself. The why doesn't really matter and won't change what happened. The loser left a small child with no parents.

War Wagon · Post by **War Wagon** » Sun Dec 02, 2012 4:39 am

The why does matter.

Mace · Post by **Mace** » Sun Dec 02, 2012 4:43 am

War Wagon wrote:The why does matter.

Not to him and his girlfriend....not now.

War Wagon · Post by **War Wagon** » Sun Dec 02, 2012 4:50 am

as a former probation officer, you should be a student of human nature. Instead, you focus your attention elsewhere while the why goes unanswered.

These types of responses are popular and prevalent among the unwashed masses... coming from you, it puzzles me.

Mace · Post by **Mace** » Sun Dec 02, 2012 5:26 am

War Wagon wrote:as a former probation officer, you should be a student of human nature. Instead, you focus your attention elsewhere while the why goes unanswered.

These types of responses are popular and prevalent among the unwashed masses... coming from you, it puzzles me.

The why will make for interesting reading in your newspaper but it won't matter to the two that are dead. I was a probation/parole officer, Wags, not a social worker.

missjo · Post by **missjo** » Sun Dec 02, 2012 11:46 am

I miss Luther, he was a sweetie

ucantdoitdoggieSTyle2 · Sun Dec 02, 2012 12:27 pm

War Wagon wrote:You don't know anything about the circumstances of why this happened.

There's no lower form of human being who says... "My life sucks and I can't take it anymore. Oh yeah, I am going to off YOU as well because if I can't have you NO ONE can." Additionally, he left a fucking daughter behind with no fucking parent to raise her. Do you really care about the why, you fucking housefrau? The what is the only thing that matters here. I am not going to shed any tears for Belcher. In fact, FUCK HIM and anyone who has an ounce of sympathy for him. However, I feel really bad for the parents/family/friends of the girl whose life he so cowardly took.

Diego in Seattle · Post by **Diego in Seattle** » Sun Dec 02, 2012 5:19 pm

ucantdoitdoggieSTyle2 wrote:
War Wagon wrote:You don't know anything about the circumstances of why this happened.
There's no lower form of human being who says... "My life sucks and I can't take it anymore. Oh yeah, I am going to off YOU as well because if I can't have you NO ONE can." Additionally, he left a fucking daughter behind with no fucking parent to raise her. Do you really care about the why, you fucking housefrau? The what is the only thing that matters here. I am not going to shed any tears for Belcher. In fact, FUCK HIM and anyone who has an ounce of sympathy for him. However, I feel really bad for the parents/family/friends of the girl whose life he so cowardly took.

Rack it.

MgoBlue-LightSpecial · Sun Dec 02, 2012 5:39 pm

Wags, would you care to name just a single "why" that could possibly justify taking the life of your child's mother?

Van · Post by **Van** » Sun Dec 02, 2012 7:08 pm

But what if she burned his collection of Foghat eight-tracks...or bought a Mitsubishi Montero?

Mace · Post by **Mace** » Sun Dec 02, 2012 7:20 pm

Van wrote:But what if she burned his collection of Foghat eight-tracks...or bought a Mistubishi Montero?

Every man has his limits.

War Wagon · Post by **War Wagon** » Sun Dec 02, 2012 11:01 pm

MgoBlue-LightSpecial wrote:Wags, would you care to name just a single "why" that could possibly justify taking the life of your child's mother?

There is no possible justification for what he did, none. And no room for forgiveness. I don't think I've tried to suggest that there was.

But I have little to no patience for people who blurt out instant judgement when they don't know the slightest thing about why something like this could have happened.

The Seer · Post by **The Seer** » Sun Dec 02, 2012 11:51 pm

The Todd was one of the first to proudly proclaim his intention to off himself on this board - or could it have been an earlier incarnation.....still, alas, like most, he "probably" never will follow through.

Mace · Post by **Mace** » Mon Dec 03, 2012 12:09 am

War Wagon wrote: But I have little to no patience for people who blurt out instant judgement when they don't know the slightest thing about why something like this could have happened.

Like the idiot who passed judgment on the mother of his 3 month old daughter? That kind of "instant judgment"?

The only person who could definitively answer your stupid "why" question is fucking dead. I'm sure the police will interrogate him but I doubt he'll talk. The only other person who likely had any insight as to what the moron was thinking is his dead girlfriend. She ain't talkin' either. The shit you're wanting to know will be in the tabloids...it's called wild speculation.

mvscal · Post by **mvscal** » Mon Dec 03, 2012 12:41 am

War Wagon wrote:...when they don't know the slightest thing about why something like this could have happened.

What difference would it make? Would his baby momma be any less dead?

Smackie Chan · Post by **Smackie Chan** » Mon Dec 03, 2012 1:42 am

War Wagon wrote:I have little to no patience for people who blurt out instant judgement when they don't know the slightest thing about why something like this could have happened.

You pass judgment on those who've been divorced without knowing why it happened.

Van · Post by **Van** » Mon Dec 03, 2012 2:19 am

Smackie Chan wrote:
War Wagon wrote:I have little to no patience for people who blurt out instant judgement when they don't know the slightest thing about why something like this could have happened.
You pass judgment on those who've been divorced without knowing why it happened.

R-Jack · Post by **R-Jack** » Mon Dec 03, 2012 3:02 am

That would be getting divorced. She's finally able to come to the table and work out the details.

mvscal · Post by **mvscal** » Mon Dec 03, 2012 3:23 am

Martyred wrote:"Hey, remember toddowen?

War Wagon · Post by **War Wagon** » Mon Dec 03, 2012 3:29 am

Mace wrote: The only person who could definitively answer your stupid "why" question is fucking dead. I'm sure the police will interrogate him but I doubt he'll talk. The only other person who likely had any insight as to what the moron was thinking is his dead girlfriend. She ain't talkin' either. The shit you're wanting to know will be in the tabloids...it's called wild speculation.

You're most likely wrong about that. The mans mother probably knows why, as do many of his and her friends. That side of the story will eventually come out, while you move on to more interesting things in the 24 hour news cycle.

"why" is only a stupid question to a mongoloid who believes that someone driven to commit murder/suicide is a coward, as if you've been there, done that.

Screw_Michigan · Post by **Screw_Michigan** » Mon Dec 03, 2012 3:38 am

War Wagon wrote:You're most likely wrong about that. The mans mother probably knows why, as do many of his and her friends. That side of the story will eventually come out, while you move on to more interesting things in the 24 hour news cycle.

Whitey wrote:"why" is only a stupid question to a mongoloid who believes that someone driven to commit murder/suicide is a coward

That is sig material right there. You might want to re-think that take, champ, though thinking has never been your strong suit.

R-Jack · Post by **R-Jack** » Mon Dec 03, 2012 3:41 am

War Wagon wrote: "why" is only a stupid question to a mongoloid who believes that someone driven to commit murder/suicide is a coward,

So I take it you RACKed Bill Mahr for not calling the 9/11 terrorists cowards.

Mace · Post by **Mace** » Mon Dec 03, 2012 3:43 am

War Wagon wrote:You're most likely wrong about that. The mans mother probably knows why, as do many of his and her friends. That side of the story will eventually come out, while you move on to more interesting things in the 24 hour news cycle.

"why" is only a stupid question to a mongoloid who believes that someone driven to commit suicide is a coward, as if you've been there, done that.

Oh, he's not only a coward, he's a murdering piece of shit, and he most likely took his story to the morgue....unless he left a suicide note detailing how he was going to kill his girlfriend and himself...and the all so important (to you) why, which would also be a confession to premeditated murder. There's no doubt about what he did and there is no "why" that would justify his actions. And the reason your "why" question is so stupid is because it doesn't matter. Now get back to your banjo.

War Wagon · Post by **War Wagon** » Mon Dec 03, 2012 3:43 am

Smackie Chan wrote:
War Wagon wrote:I have little to no patience for people who blurt out instant judgement when they don't know the slightest thing about why something like this could have happened.
You pass judgment on those who've been divorced without knowing why it happened.

divorce is an entirely different set of circumstances than murder/suicide but of course, you already knew that.

Shlomart Ben Yisrael · Mon Dec 03, 2012 3:52 am

Wags' question of "why" is the correct one. The "why" will help everyone understand that the real problem here was mental illness and introducing moral relativist terms like "courage" is pointless at best.

He wasn't a "piece of shit", but what he did was definitely shitty.

Now, your nation can try and understand mental health issues that are becoming epidemic in our time, or you can just over-medicate the fuck out of the entire population.
One will lead you to a better understanding of the human condition...the other leads to peril.

War Wagon · Post by **War Wagon** » Mon Dec 03, 2012 3:55 am

Mace wrote:And the reason your "why" question is so stupid is because it doesn't matter.

We'll have to agree to disagree.

perhaps I'm too close to the situation, but the why does matter to me. perhaps if this had happened somewhere else, I wouldn't care enough to post about it.

don't take that admission as a white flag. you've shown your true colors, that of a sensationalistic dumb fuck more concerned with how people perceive you than you are the actual circumstances of the people affected.

Most people here fit that description, sad to say, and they may all get bent.

mvscal · Post by **mvscal** » Mon Dec 03, 2012 4:01 am

Martyred wrote:He wasn't a "piece of shit",

Sure he was. He blew away his baby momma right in front of her mother and then drove down to Narrowhead and popped his gourd in front of the two idiots who employed him. That's a pretty self-indulgent, 'Oooo, look at me,' cocknozzle if there ever was one.