Is it true some seven or eight candidates turned down the Tennessee gig? Same with Arky.
I also heard a rumor that Jim Haslem (a Vol alum) was willing to give John Gruden a piece of ownership with the Clevelend Browns if he took the Tennessee gig. Kind of a weird twist. An owner of an NFL team is offering a small piece of the Browns to an ex-NFL coach who happened to win the Super Bowl to coach his college alum? Uhh...what?
I heard Gruden was interested but wanted total control and Dave Hart wasn't going for that. I think Dave Hart is an idiot.
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i was kinda hoping Gundy would take this job. just to see the Pokes' spin. same uhgly ass color of orange. i've always grudgingly liked the balance of Gundy's offenses....with him, Fedora, even Holgerson.
also give Colorado some hope. CU is in a bad bad place but losing a coach you offered to Tennessee is not as bad as a straight up jilting for no reason, the money play for more cheese at Cincy, or worse...taking the Purdue job.
also give Colorado some hope. CU is in a bad bad place but losing a coach you offered to Tennessee is not as bad as a straight up jilting for no reason, the money play for more cheese at Cincy, or worse...taking the Purdue job.
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I think we're starting to see more of a "the grass isn't always greener" mentality take effect. Yeah the money is nice but these guys aren't exactly struggling to make a living, and when you know there's a 90% chance these schools are going to pack your bags in three years or less because you didn't go 12-0 with the other guy's shitty recruits, and wind up back at square one coaching San Jose State...is it really worth it?Go Coogs' wrote:Is it true some seven or eight candidates turned down the Tennessee gig? Same with Arky.
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On a sidenote, I keep hearing "Chip Kelly is gone to the NFL after this season."
I doubt it. I read somewhere (public record and whatsuch) that Chip, after bonuses and perks and all, made about $3.5 mil last season (made him like #5 among NCAA coaches, or thereabous). NFL doesn't pay much more than that, especially to rookies (might even be less).
In the NFL, a couple of bad seasons, and you're gone. On the other hand, Chip can probably stay in Eugene (nicer place to live than 90+% of NFL cities) for the rest of his life, probably getting pay raises along the way.
And beyond the money, there's the X's and O's. While the Redskins are experimenting with a variation of the Chip Offense, in its current form, it has no chance in the NFL. While zone-blocking is showing some promise, the pure Kelly dealio of leaving a DE (usually) unblocked is a reallyreallyreally bad idea in the NFL. While turning a gorilla loose in your backfield is all good with a 20 year old QB, doing the same with a 32 year old QB on his 8th knee surgery, maybe not so much.
There isn't a DE in the NFL that isn't faster than Peyton Manning or Tom Brady. And you don't have 14 new QBs waiting in the wings in the NFL. And the variant the Skins are using won't work after BobbyG takes a few shots to his legs over the years. A team MUST have a really fast QB to zone block.
Not that Chip isn't an offensive genius who can adapt (his New Hampshire offense was all passing out of the zone blocks), but for people to think the Kelly offense has any shot in the NFL... not a chance.
To the immediate topic at hand -- it ssems like an SEC school with a freaking crystal football in its case should pretty much have the pick of the litter. Odd situation there.
I doubt it. I read somewhere (public record and whatsuch) that Chip, after bonuses and perks and all, made about $3.5 mil last season (made him like #5 among NCAA coaches, or thereabous). NFL doesn't pay much more than that, especially to rookies (might even be less).
In the NFL, a couple of bad seasons, and you're gone. On the other hand, Chip can probably stay in Eugene (nicer place to live than 90+% of NFL cities) for the rest of his life, probably getting pay raises along the way.
And beyond the money, there's the X's and O's. While the Redskins are experimenting with a variation of the Chip Offense, in its current form, it has no chance in the NFL. While zone-blocking is showing some promise, the pure Kelly dealio of leaving a DE (usually) unblocked is a reallyreallyreally bad idea in the NFL. While turning a gorilla loose in your backfield is all good with a 20 year old QB, doing the same with a 32 year old QB on his 8th knee surgery, maybe not so much.
There isn't a DE in the NFL that isn't faster than Peyton Manning or Tom Brady. And you don't have 14 new QBs waiting in the wings in the NFL. And the variant the Skins are using won't work after BobbyG takes a few shots to his legs over the years. A team MUST have a really fast QB to zone block.
Not that Chip isn't an offensive genius who can adapt (his New Hampshire offense was all passing out of the zone blocks), but for people to think the Kelly offense has any shot in the NFL... not a chance.
To the immediate topic at hand -- it ssems like an SEC school with a freaking crystal football in its case should pretty much have the pick of the litter. Odd situation there.
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MgoBlue-LightSpecial wrote:I think we're starting to see more of a "the grass isn't always greener" mentality take effect. Yeah the money is nice but these guys aren't exactly struggling to make a living, and when you know there's a 90% chance these schools are going to pack your bags in three years or less because you didn't go 12-0 with the other guy's shitty recruits, and wind up back at square one coaching San Jose State...is it really worth it?
Disagree.
Take one of those jobs and sign a 3-5 year contract and you're set for life and your kids life if you invest well.
Beats sitting in a cubicle and being a desk jockey for 40 years like most of you degenerates.
I like Butch Jones here.
I think this is a very good hire. Not great, but very good. He has the resume, he has the acumen, and he has a certain toughness about him.

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Better than freezing your wet ass off at the renn faire, peddling wind chimes and behind-the-tent blowjobs for a living.M2 wrote:Beats sitting in a cubicle and being a desk jockey for 40 years like most of you degenerates.
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I don't know, Carson, M2 seems to enjoy the life he's chosen. To each his own, I guess.Carson wrote: Better than freezing your wet ass off at the renn faire, peddling wind chimes and behind-the-tent blowjobs for a living.
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Well, the proof is in the pudding when these schools are wearing their pencils down to the eraser scratching candidates off their list.M2 wrote:Disagree.
Take one of those jobs and sign a 3-5 year contract and you're set for life and your kids life if you invest well.
Guys at mid-level BCS programs are still making 7 figure salaries plus bonuses, plus have a bit more job security. If they can't sock money away for their future they've got nothing to blame but their own stupidity.