Obama's Gun Talk

smackaholic · Post by **smackaholic** » Tue Jan 22, 2013 8:19 pm

A small lilly white peaceful country opens it borders to refuse from all over the world and their violent crime rate skyrockets?

No fukking way!!!!!

Have fun celebrating diversity canuckleheads.

Mikey · Post by **Mikey** » Thu Jan 24, 2013 10:35 pm

You really need a semi-automatic rifle to kill lots of hogs at once?

Pretty damn pathetic.

Sin,
Hawkeye

mvscal · Post by **mvscal** » Thu Jan 24, 2013 10:56 pm

KC Scott wrote:Turns out there is a very specific hunting need the AR-15 fills:

Hunting Feral Hogs -

The .223 is a great round for varmint plinking. Coyotes, feral hogs, armadillos you name it.

Felix · Post by **Felix** » Thu Jan 24, 2013 11:53 pm

KC Scott wrote:Turns out there is a very specific hunting need the AR-15 fills:

yeah, because there is such a plethora of wild boar hunters, and armadillo killers running around is Aurora Colorado and Newtown Conneticut.....

fuck dude, have you ever seen an armadillo? you could probably kill them with a well placed shot from a pellet gun

Cuda · Post by **Cuda** » Fri Jan 25, 2013 3:22 am

mvscal wrote:
KC Scott wrote:Turns out there is a very specific hunting need the AR-15 fills:

Hunting Feral Hogs -
The .223 is a great round for varmint plinking. Coyotes, feral hogs, armadillos you name it.

pretty good for shooting cans...

mexi-Cans & Afri-Cans...

mvscal · Post by **mvscal** » Fri Jan 25, 2013 6:33 am

Felix wrote:fuck dude, have you ever seen an armadillo? you could probably kill them with a well placed shot from a pellet gun

Not a chance. .22LR works, though.

You haven't seen an armadillo or a gun that wasn't tickling your tonsils. You are totally full of shit on every level. Shovel it somewhere else, faggot.

Felix · Post by **Felix** » Fri Jan 25, 2013 7:42 am

mvscal wrote:
You haven't seen an armadillo

I've spent lots of time in Texas, so I've seen armadillos....pretty innocuous animals whose sole indiscretion against humans is that the like to dig burrows and run out in front of cars....so by all means, you should gun them down on site....tough kill as the generally amble at about 2 or 3 miles an hour....but by all means, if that satisfies your urge to hunt big game, knock yourself out

but I can see you're still pretty upset.....dude, I know there are a lot of wild hogs running loose in san diego, and if you want to go shoot them with a .233 let er rip......be sure and pack lots of ammo, because you never know when those feral, highly destructive california pigs are going to group up for a pack charge and go fucking wild on you....same with the notorious kansas city wild hogs.....those are some dangerous animals

mvscal · Post by **mvscal** » Fri Jan 25, 2013 8:48 am

Felix wrote:I've spent lots of time in Texas, so I've seen armadillos....pretty innocuous animals whose sole indiscretion against humans is that the like to dig burrows

That's right, you cum drunk faggot. What the fuck do you think happens when a horse or other livestock steps in one of those "innocuous" burrows? Like to grow some vegetables maybe? Not with armadillos around.

You have proven yourself to be a completely clueless dipshit. Fuck off, idiot.

Diego in Seattle · Post by **Diego in Seattle** » Fri Jan 25, 2013 12:46 pm

Felix wrote:
mvscal wrote:
You haven't seen an armadillo
I've spent lots of time in Texas, so I've seen armadillos....pretty innocuous animals whose sole indiscretion against humans is that the like to dig burrows and run out in front of cars....so by all means, you should gun them down on site....tough kill as the generally amble at about 2 or 3 miles an hour....but by all means, if that satisfies your urge to hunt big game, knock yourself out

but I can see you're still pretty upset.....dude, I know there are a lot of wild hogs running loose in san diego, and if you want to go shoot them with a .233 let er rip......be sure and pack lots of ammo, because you never know when those feral, highly destructive california pigs are going to group up for a pack charge and go fucking wild on you....same with the notorious kansas city wild hogs.....those are some dangerous animals

You expect different from a guy who's standard weapon in the army was a potato peeler?

Felix · Post by **Felix** » Fri Jan 25, 2013 3:35 pm

mvscal wrote: That's right, you cum drunk faggot. What the fuck do you think happens when a horse or other livestock steps in one of those "innocuous" burrows? Like to grow some vegetables maybe? Not with armadillos around.

know a lot about horses do you? obviously not because if you did you'd know just how fucking stupid that assertion is......this is horse and cattle country and we have lots and lots of burrowing animals that could potentially cause problems for horses, cattle, etc...prairie dogs, marmots, ground hogs, rabbits lots and lots of rabbits and when I say rabbits, I'm not talking about cotton tails, I'm talking about Jackrabbits the size of fucking dogs, hares, moles, gophers, wood chucks, rock chucks, whistle pigs, badgers, voles, a wide variety of rats and mice that create dens big enough for horses or cattle to step in....do you know how many accidents we have involving horses and cattle stepping into animal burrows? of course you don't because you're a fucking idiot

clueless dipshit

yes, you are a clueless dipshit....it's become painfully obvious that you're grasping at straws

M2 · Post by M2 » Fri Jan 25, 2013 3:56 pm

KC Scott wrote: here's a few pictures of the 1.5 Billion in damage MSU talks about

I laughed

Felix · Post by **Felix** » Fri Jan 25, 2013 4:26 pm

KC Scott wrote:getting back to what you ignored - Here's the Miss State site on destruction caused by ferral hogs

and apparently you missed the fact I was referencing Aurora Colorado, Newtown Connecticut, Littleton Colorado, etc.....and yes, I've seen (for about 5 minutes) the series Hog Wild, wherein people shoot wild hogs causing damages to their property.....

but tell me, how often do those people need 30 round magazines?
if they can't get them in 4 shots, having additional ammo isn't going to do them a bit of good because they will have been ramrodded by those feral hogs by the time they try and squeeze off the 4th shot....

but lets assume they do need 30 round magazines, what the fuck does that have to do with crazy mother fuckers walking into a theater and opening up on a bunch of unsuspecting movie patrons?

and while were asking questions, why is it that every time somebody brings up the idea of eliminating high capacity magazines, gun rights activists go into the whole "this is an assault on our second amendment rights"?

I don't know of anyone that is advocating that Americans turn in every gun they own....now if you're privy to some information I'm unaware of, by all means post it here.....

Derron · Post by **Derron** » Fri Jan 25, 2013 5:07 pm

Here is today's Freedom and 2nd Amendment thoughts...Liberals and hang wringing pussys need not reply.

The 2nd Amendment DOES NOT grant the people the right to keep and bear arms!!!!

The right of self defense is not a "Constitutional right." The Constitution affirms that the right is a God given right, a natural right. The right precedes the Constitution and all governments. No government gave the people this right and no government can take it away. It is the birthright of every human being. It is an inalienable right that cannot be surrendered, transferred or taken away. The right of self defense is beyond the reach of government.

The purpose of the 2nd Amendment is not to grant the people rights, but to restrict the government from infringing upon their rights. Any government that infringes on the right of self defense becomes illegitimate and should be resisted. If our government infringes on our right of self-defense, then it will be doing violence to God, to the Constitution and to the people. It will be our duty to resist.

Two little words. With these two words, two concepts were verbalized that have lived for nearly two and a half Millennia. They signify and characterize both theheart of the Warrior, and the indomitable spirit of mankind. From the ancient Greek, they are the reply of the Spartan General-King Leonidas to Xerxes, the Persian Emperor who came with 600,000 of the fiercest fighting troops in the world to conquer and invade little Greece, then the center and birthplace of civilization as we know it. When Xerxes offered to spare the lives of Leonidas, his 300 personal bodyguards and a handful of Thebans and others who volunteered to defend their country, if they would lay down their arms, Leonidas shouted these two words back.

Molon Labe! (mo-lone lah-veh)

They mean, “Come and get them!” They live on today as the most notable quote in military history. And so began the classic example of courage and valor in its dismissal of overwhelming superiority of numbers, wherein the heart and spirit of brave men overcame insuperable odds. Today, there lies a plaque dedicated to these heroes all at the site. It reads: “Go tell the Spartans, travelers passing by, that here, obedient to their laws we lie.”

We have adopted this defiant utterance as a battle cry in our war against oppression because it says so clearly and simply towards those who would take our arms.

It signifies our determination to not strike the first blow, but also to not stand mute and allow our loved ones, and all that we believe in and stand for, to be trampled by men who would deprive us of our God-given – or natural, if you will – rights to suit their own ends.

mvscal · Post by **mvscal** » Fri Jan 25, 2013 9:09 pm

Felix wrote:
know a lot about horses do you? obviously not because if you did you'd know just how fucking stupid that assertion is......

It's not an assertion, you stupid sperm splattered faggot. It's a fucking fact. And, since I've actually worked on a ranch back in the day, I can say without any fear of contradiction that I know more than you and your entire jizz gargling family about horses and caring for them. We lost a horse to an armadillo burrow which is why we got the dogs out and exterminated every armadillo on the property with the dreaded Ruger Mini 14 and 20 round mags.

If you really know what you claim to know then you're a fucking liar. Of course I know for a fact that you don't know shit. For whatever reason you think that claiming "to have been around guns your whole life" will give you some sort of credibility as you shit all over the 2nd amendment. It doesn't.

You are a fucking fraud and a very bad liar.

Go Coogs' · Post by **Go Coogs'** » Fri Jan 25, 2013 9:29 pm

Feral hogs are a big problem in east Texas. In order to get rid of them in mass amounts, the AR route is the only way to go. We have mass hunting convoys (with safety in mind) that is supported by the state in order to get rid of these hogs. They are a fucking menace.

Shlomart Ben Yisrael · Fri Jan 25, 2013 10:14 pm

Go Coogs' wrote:Feral hogs are a big problem in east Texas.

:rumple:

mvscal · Post by **mvscal** » Fri Jan 25, 2013 10:23 pm

Rumplefrau isn't feral.

Go Coogs' · Post by **Go Coogs'** » Fri Jan 25, 2013 10:51 pm

mvscal wrote:Rumplefrau isn't feral.

^^^ this.

Felix · Post by **Felix** » Sat Jan 26, 2013 11:11 pm

mvscal wrote:It's not an assertion, you stupid sperm splattered faggot. It's a fucking fact. And, since I've actually worked on a ranch back in the day, I can say without any fear of contradiction that I know more than you and your entire jizz gargling family about horses and caring for them.

really, you "worked on a ranch"? sorry douchebag, but picking up horseshit and mopping up piss doesn't qualify you as a horse expert......the three primary reasons why a horse would break their leg is if they're young and inexperienced, if they panic, or if some moron is riding in an area with questionable footing.....seriously, just shut the fuck up idiot....

Of course I know for a fact that you don't know shit. For whatever reason you think that claiming "to have been around guns your whole life" will give you some sort of credibility as you shit all over the 2nd amendment.

I can see you're still pretty upset....so, maybe you can point out where I've "shit all over the 2nd amendment" numbnuts.....

the only thing I've ever advocated is that the carrying capacity of gun magazines should be limited....how does this constitute shitting all over the second amendment?

hyperbole is not your strong suit

mvscal · Post by **mvscal** » Sat Jan 26, 2013 11:35 pm

Felix wrote:...the three primary reasons why a horse would break their leg is if they're young and inexperienced, if they panic, or if some moron is riding in an area with questionable footing.

An area with questionable footing, huh? You mean like a pasture riddled with armadillo burrows? That kind of questionable footing?

Idiot.

Derron · Post by **Derron** » Sun Jan 27, 2013 12:13 am

Felix wrote: ..the three primary reasons why a horse would break their leg is if they're young and inexperienced, if they panic, or if some moron is riding in an area with questionable footing.

There is one reason this would happen, and that is if the horse owner allowed the animal to be in an area where that kind of footing existed. Period. Owner is responsible for the area that the animal is in and the condition there of. Pigs, armadillos, fucks up my pasture, they are going to be eliminated.

mvscal · Post by **mvscal** » Sun Jan 27, 2013 2:29 am

Derron wrote:Owner is responsible for the area that the animal is in and the condition there of. Pigs, armadillos, fucks up my pasture, they are going to be eliminated.

Yep. Funny how libs are all about wiping out "invasive species" except whenever those species invade human habitat. Then farmers and ranchers are just supposed to deal with reintroduced predators and hordes of destructive vermin.

Felix · Post by **Felix** » Sun Jan 27, 2013 2:41 pm

mvscal wrote:
An area with questionable footing, huh? You mean like a pasture riddled with armadillo burrows? That kind of questionable footing?

Idiot.

no, questionable footing like mountainous terrain covered with rocks and steep slopes.....jeezus bud, do you think horses are blind or something? it's not like they just amble along and all of a sudden fall into a hole.....they do possess the ability to see what's in front of them....

horses fall for a variety of reasons, but without a doubt the biggest culprit is hooves that haven't been tended to properly.....

look, if somebody wants to shoot armadillos that are tearing up their pastures, I don't have any problem with that.....same with feral hogs.....I've got not problem with a property owner ridding themselves of nuisance animals, but don't say it's because horses are going to trip over their burrows, that just makes you look stupid....an experienced "ranch hand" should know this....

Derron wrote:

There is one reason this would happen, and that is if the horse owner allowed the animal to be in an area where that kind of footing existed. Period. Owner is responsible for the area that the animal is in and the condition there of. Pigs, armadillos, fucks up my pasture, they are going to be eliminated.

no doubt, armadillos and feral pigs are a huge problem in oregon....

mvscal · Post by **mvscal** » Sun Jan 27, 2013 10:56 pm

Felix wrote:
mvscal wrote:
An area with questionable footing, huh? You mean like a pasture riddled with armadillo burrows? That kind of questionable footing?

Idiot.
no, questionable footing like mountainous terrain covered with rocks and steep slopes.....jeezus bud, do you think horses are blind or something? it's not like they just amble along and all of a sudden fall into a hole.....they do possess the ability to see what's in front of them....

They also possess the ability to misjudge their footing and sometimes they just flat out don't pay any attention especially young horses running around.

I don't know why you're bothering to post. You look like more of a fucking idiot every time you mash submit. It's abundantly clear you nothing about guns or livestock. Maybe you can add something else to the list of things you know fuck all about.

Cuda · Post by **Cuda** » Sun Jan 27, 2013 11:24 pm

Or maybe feeldix could start with ONE- just one thing he isn't entirely full of shit about and build on that. Of course there's a higher probabliity that he'll jump over the moon

Derron · Post by **Derron** » Mon Jan 28, 2013 12:33 am

Felix wrote:

no doubt, armadillos and feral pigs are a huge problem in oregon....

Completely missed the fucking point as per usual.

My point is here pindick, no matter where the location, Oregon, Texas, Oklahoma, Illinois, it is the responsibility of the livestock owner to make sure their animal is not exposed to unsafe conditions in the pasture, in any type of confinement, or working in the field. Pasture management is so hard these days....

We do have some feral pigs in Oregon, but a pig on the loose and feral in this area, is hanging in the locker before much damage is done.

Derron · Post by **Derron** » Mon Jan 28, 2013 12:38 am

Felix wrote:
horses fall for a variety of reasons, but without a doubt the biggest culprit is hooves that haven't been tended to properly.....

Not really. I have seen horse's fall in a pasture due to running and trying to turn too hard, and those were well shod animals. Far more horses when mounted by a rider,fall because the idiots riding them force them into unsafe footing conditions, than because of some fucking armadillo burrow or some fucked up shit like that.

Felix · Post by **Felix** » Mon Jan 28, 2013 12:16 pm

mvscal wrote: They also possess the ability to misjudge their footing and sometimes they just flat out don't pay any attention especially young horses running around.

I'm still waiting for you to post the reference wherein I allegedly shit all over the 2nd amendment....but in the mean time

wire fencing poses more of a risk to a working horse than wild animal burrows....I've seen horses get tangled up in old fencing lots of times, but never seen one trip over a wild animal burrow
you must think that horses are really stupid animals

here in Idaho, ranchers lease hundreds of thousands of acres of BLM land for horses, cattle, etc. how exactly are they supposed to insure the safety of those thousands of acres of land? should they currycomb every acre to make sure there are no wild animal burrows?

you must have been quite a ranch hand....what was your job, filling in wild animal burrows in the pasture lands??

Derron wrote: Not really. I have seen horse's fall in a pasture due to running and trying to turn too hard, and those were well shod animals. Far more horses when mounted by a rider,fall because the idiots riding them force them into unsafe footing conditions, than because of some fucking armadillo burrow or some fucked up shit like that.

jesus christ you fucking moron, if a horse is shod, there hooves are pretty well taken care of....nobody shoes a horse without first addressing their hooves.....are you really this stupid, or is this just an act?

smackaholic · Post by **smackaholic** » Mon Jan 28, 2013 2:18 pm

Felix wrote:really, you "worked on a ranch"? sorry douchebag, but picking up horseshit and mopping up piss doesn't qualify you as a horse expert......the three primary reasons why a horse would break their leg is if they're young and inexperienced, if they panic, or if some moron is riding in an area with questionable footing.....seriously, just shut the fuck up idiot....

"area of questionable footing" such as an armadillo burrow?

I doubt even chuck norris could kick your ass as well as you just have. congrats, john wayne.

Felix · Post by **Felix** » Mon Jan 28, 2013 4:38 pm

smackaholic wrote: "area of questionable footing" such as an armadillo burrow?

do you know anything about horses?
horses don't gallop to get food, they amble so the likelyhood of them stepping into an armadillo hole within a penned area is virtually non existent.....they don't inadvertently step in holes because they possess uncanny proprioception wherein they're fully cognizant of where their feet are at all times.....if you're riding a horse in an area of questionable footing and they begin to stumble, odds are it's the rider who's going to get hurt, not the horse

smackaholic · Post by **smackaholic** » Mon Jan 28, 2013 5:38 pm

Felix wrote:
smackaholic wrote: "area of questionable footing" such as an armadillo burrow?
do you know anything about horses?
horses don't gallop to get food, they amble so the likelyhood of them stepping into an armadillo hole within a penned area is virtually non existent.....they don't inadvertently step in holes because they possess uncanny proprioception wherein they're fully cognizant of where their feet are at all times.....if you're riding a horse in an area of questionable footing and they begin to stumble, odds are it's the rider who's going to get hurt, not the horse

I know damn little about horses beyond the fact that they have a rather delicate suspension system and stepping into holes is a bad thing for them and if one breaks a leg, it's pretty much time to throw them on the grill. Whether they step in these holes because of a stupid driver or any other reason, you yourself admit that "areas of questionable footing" are a concern. And one method of dealing with the area of questionable footing, is to eliminate its source.

mvscal · Post by **mvscal** » Mon Jan 28, 2013 7:20 pm

Felix wrote:do you know anything about horses?

horses don't gallop to get food, they amble so the likelyhood of them stepping into an armadillo hole within a penned area is virtually non existent.....they don't inadvertently step in holes because they possess uncanny proprioception wherein they're fully cognizant of where their feet are at all times.....

They gallop for fun, you shit licking maggot. Young horses, especially colts, are like bored teenagers. They are careless, reckless and play very hard. Where the fuck do you think the expressions 'horsing around' and 'horseplay' come from? They hurt themselves doing stupid things all the time. Generally nothing so drastic as a broken leg but it does happen. There is a reason why any rancher with two brain cells wipes out burrowing animals on their property.

I'm not sure why you think sucking a horsecock has given you any special insight into their behavior. You know nothing and it shows.

Derron · Post by **Derron** » Mon Jan 28, 2013 7:40 pm

Felix wrote:
wire fencing poses more of a risk to a working horse than wild animal burrows....I've seen horses get tangled up in old fencing lots of times, but never seen one trip over a wild animal burrow

but without a doubt the biggest culprit is hooves that haven't been tended to properly.....

Nice OCD rant there...make your fucking mind up which it is there Roy Rogers.

jesus christ you fucking moron, if a horse is shod, there hooves are pretty well taken care of....nobody shoes a horse without first addressing their hooves.....are you really this stupid, or is this just an act?

So then why does a well shod horse fall then ? How many different directions can you chase something around ?

I have owned or been around horses since I was 6 years old. Your logic is completely off in space. Continue flailing around thought, because it is amusing.

smackaholic · Post by **smackaholic** » Mon Jan 28, 2013 8:21 pm

So, a horse won't step in a gopher hole, but it will run right into a barbwire fence?

WTF, do they have some sort of ground radar I don't know about?

Felix · Post by **Felix** » Mon Jan 28, 2013 10:17 pm

I'm not sure why you fucking idiots that know nothing about horses want to argue some inane point.....did you miss the post wherein I stated I had no problem with a rancher disposing of nuisance animals.....

ranchers don't shoot armadillos and feral pigs because they dig holes, they shoot them because they tear up grazing ground......feral pigs pose a big hazard to any animals that might potentially come into contact with them, not because they root around in the ground, but because they are fucking dangerous animals that can inflict serious injuries.....armadillos are disease infested pests that pose health hazards to any animals that come into contact with them....they carry certain types of microbes that can cause leprosy, they can carry rabies, they definitely carry tapeworms and salmonella....but cattle and horses are more likely to die of a snake bite than from stepping in an armadillo hole.....

smackaholic wrote:So, a horse won't step in a gopher hole, but it will run right into a barbwire fence?

WTF, do they have some sort of ground radar I don't know about?

they get tangled up in old fencing lying on the ground.....that shit is all over the place around here....
no, horses don't go running into standing barb wire fencing......

one of my best buds raises horses and I've gone on countless rides with him.....I've ridden over plains, hills, mountains, water, sand dunes, etc. and never once has one of the horses I've ridden ever stepped into an unseen hole.....I got thrown off once when the horse was trying to traverse a rather large log that was lying in the way, but the horse never hit the ground....he turned to catch his balance and I took the fall....

Van · Post by **Van** » Tue Jan 29, 2013 12:32 am

Felix Plant wrote:I've ridden over plains, hills, mountains, water, sand dunes, etc.

Shlomart Ben Yisrael · Tue Jan 29, 2013 12:37 am

Honourable Mention:

War Wagon · Post by **War Wagon** » Tue Jan 29, 2013 12:49 am

I don't give a shit about gun control or a lack thereof, but I like the direction this thread has taken.

Shlomart Ben Yisrael · Tue Jan 29, 2013 12:54 am

rack it

Van · Post by **Van** » Tue Jan 29, 2013 12:57 am

Felix receives his AR-15 sword and hops in a boat before taking a ride through treacherous armadillo-infested shores...

Then it's on to some badass derring-do with that same surefooted horse as together they fend off feral pigs in the Highland moors, whereupon he finally comes upon trev and plants his noble seed with nothing more than a knowing smirk...

Felix fucking rocks.