I Don't Like Mondays

Smackie Chan · Post by **Smackie Chan** » Mon Sep 16, 2013 6:28 pm

But I usually go into the office anyway. For some reason, I decided to stay home this morning & work from here. Turned out to be a fortuitous decision.

I work in Bldg 197 at the Washington Navy Yard.

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Mon Sep 16, 2013 6:55 pm

Glad you stayed home.

Joe in PB · Post by **Joe in PB** » Mon Sep 16, 2013 7:09 pm

Chalk up another sequestration layoff ramification......

Should have aired out the Capital instead.

Screw_Michigan · Post by **Screw_Michigan** » Mon Sep 16, 2013 7:26 pm

88 wrote:The news agencies, as per usualm, are putting out conflicting reports in an effort to be first to report anything.

What are they supposed to do, confer with each other before reporting?

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Mon Sep 16, 2013 7:45 pm

Screw_Michigan wrote:What are they supposed to do, confer with each other before reporting?

Glad to hear the terrorists didn't blow up your mop room.

Cuda · Post by **Cuda** » Mon Sep 16, 2013 8:22 pm

Smackie Chan wrote:But I usually go into the office anyway. For some reason, I decided to stay home this morning & work from here. Turned out to be a fortuitous decision.

I work in Bldg 197 at the Washington Navy Yard.

http://www.latimes.com/nation/nationnow ... 7381.story

WASHINGTON — District of Columbia police say they are no longer looking for other gunmen in the mass shooting at the Washington Navy Yard on Monday morning, indicating that the 11 victims of the attack were all killed by a single shooter.

Federal officials have identified the shooter as Aaron Alexis, a 34-year-old government civilian contractor from Fort Worth, Texas, who was new to the Washington, D.C., area, according to a law enforcement official who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss the investigation. He may have used the identification badge of another person to gain access to the base.

Federal officials say Alexis was arrested in Fort Worth on Sept. 5, 2010, on suspicion of discharging a weapon. The Tarrant County district attorney did not prosecute.

Earlier in the day, Metropolitan Police Department Chief Cathy Lanier had said that investigators were seeking a white male in military-style clothing who had reportedly been seen with a handgun in the vicinity of the shooting on the base. But mid-afternoon, the Police Department sent out a message by Twitter saying that that man had "been identified and is not a suspect or person of interest.”

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The other suspect Lanier said witnesses had described, a black male in military-style clothes carrying a rifle, is believed to have been Alexis, who was killed by law enforcement officers in a firefight about 10:15 a.m., roughly two hours after the shooting began.

Officials have not released information on a possible motive for the shooting, but D.C. Mayor Vincent Gray said that they do “not have any evidence to think” that it was related to terrorism. Gray called the shooting a “horrific tragedy.”

“As far as we know, this is an isolated incident,” Gray added, saying that no other military installations appeared to have been involved.

Around 3:30, officials began to allow people on the base, who had been on lockdown, to leave.

President Obama, speaking at the White House, praised the victims as “patriots” who “know the dangers of serving abroad” but faced “unimaginable violence they wouldn’t have expected at home.” He promised that federal and local law enforcement officials would work together to investigate the shooting.

The number of casualties remained uncertain. Lanier confirmed "multiple victims inside who are deceased." Other officials said that at least four victims had been killed and at least eight were wounded in the shooting.

PHOTOS: At the scene of Navy Yard shooting

Dr. Janis Orlowski, chief operating officer at MedStar Washington Hospital Center, reported three shooting victims at the hospital but added that they expected to admit more victims.

"From the reports of the victims, it had to be a semiautomatic," she said. "They’re talking about gun shots that they heard in rapid succession."

One woman admitted to the hospital had a gunshot wound to the head and her hand, Orlowski said. Another woman had a wound to her shoulder, Orlowski said, and a male D.C. police officer had multiple gunshot wounds to his legs.

The three are in critical condition, she said, but described their chances for survival as good.

The incident began at roughly 8:15 a.m. at the headquarters of the Naval Sea Systems Command at the sprawling naval base on Washington’s Anacostia River waterfront. Several witnesses told reporters that the shooting broke out on the fourth floor of the building and that the gunman shot down into the building’s open atrium.

"I think it was all on the fourth floor," Patricia Ward, one of the witnesses, told reporters.

Ward, a logistics management specialist, was in building 197 when the shooting started. She said she was in the lobby using the ATM machine when she heard three shots. She said she started "panicking." She said she didn’t know what was going on. Then she heard four more shots. A security guard with a gun drawn told them to run, she said. "I just ran. I thought of my family and I just ran." Someone had pulled the fire alarm.

Ward said that to get into the building, a person has to scan an ID card. She said that may be how the shooters got weapons in.

Roughly two hours later, witnesses at the base reported hearing more shots fired. A senior law enforcement official said a gunman, who had been barricaded in a room in the headquarters building, had been shot and killed. The shooter had engaged police in a running firefight, a senior law enforcement official said.

A federal law enforcement official monitoring the situation said the conflicting reports of more than one gunman are coming from a situation where a “second building” is being checked for reports of shots fired. The official said most of the shooting occurred at the Sea Systems Command building, and that tactical SWAT squads were now canvassing the second building.

“We won’t know what we have until we clear that other building,” said the source, who asked not to be identified because of the fluid situation.

Officials have ramped up security in all federal buildings in the Washington area. As a precaution, U.S. Capitol Police have added personnel and increased security measures in the Capitol Building.

As helicopters hovered above the base, first lowering stretchers to airlift victims to local hospitals and later circling the base in an apparent search effort, air traffic was briefly grounded at the nearby Reagan National Airport. Several area schools were put on lockdown.

A D.C. police officer and a base security officer were among the reported victims.

About 3,000 people, both civilian and military, work at the Naval Sea Systems Command Headquarters.

Navy Capt. Danny Hernandez said he was in an adjoining Navy Yard building when the shooting started.

“Everybody rushed in” to the building where he was, and security guards locked down the facility. “It was pretty orderly,” he said.

Hernandez said in a cellphone conversation that the lockdown was still in effect.

[For the Record, 8:33 a.m. PDT Sept. 16: An earlier version of this post incorrectly identified Navy Capt. Danny Hernandez as Navy Capt. Danny Rodriguez.]

[For the Record, 10:14 a.m. PDT Sept. 16: An earlier version of this post quoted Patricia Ward as saying metal detectors were in place at building 197. There are not.]

Goober McTuber · Post by **Goober McTuber** » Mon Sep 16, 2013 8:34 pm

Just shocking that you would have to explain journalistic principles to Screwball.

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Mon Sep 16, 2013 8:36 pm

88 wrote:No, moron. They should only report what they know to be true through verification. In other words, you don't broadcast rumor and unconfirmed reports. Such reporting is not "news"; it is rumor. And rumor destroys the credibility of organizations who the public needs to trust as being in the business of reporting news.

Being first in news reporting allows one to attract a bigger audience and hence cash a bigger paycheck. Being right should be more important.

That's Jimmy Stewart quaint. How's things in Bedford Falls?

ChargerMike · Post by **ChargerMike** » Mon Sep 16, 2013 8:43 pm

Smackie Chan wrote:But I usually go into the office anyway. For some reason, I decided to stay home this morning & work from here. Turned out to be a fortuitous decision.

I work in Bldg 197 at the Washington Navy Yard.

good call Smack.

War Wagon · Post by **War Wagon** » Mon Sep 16, 2013 10:57 pm

Smackie Chan wrote:I decided to stay home this morning & work from here.

Must be nice to have that option. How often can and do you get by with that?

btw, I'll expect some Boomtown Rats come Friday night.

mvscal · Post by **mvscal** » Mon Sep 16, 2013 10:58 pm

KC Scott wrote:If you were armed and properly trained you may have been able to help prevent that tragedy

The Navy Yard is a gun free zone. Perhaps, if signs were more prominently posted, this tragedy could have been avoided.

Derron · Post by **Derron** » Mon Sep 16, 2013 11:00 pm

BSmack wrote:
Screw_Michigan wrote:What are they supposed to do, confer with each other before reporting?
Glad to hear the terrorists didn't blow up your mop room.

I am not. If they did blow up his mop room, he would have headed to the shower rod and saved us all some tedious reading.

Shlomart Ben Yisrael · Mon Sep 16, 2013 11:15 pm

Smackie, in hindsight, you should have smoked a fat bowl this past weekend.

No way they'll waste time piss-testing until the dust settles...

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Mon Sep 16, 2013 11:36 pm

88 wrote:
BSmack wrote:That's Jimmy Stewart quaint. How's things in Bedford Falls?
Wouldn't know. But maybe you can see why people are less inclined to obtain their "news" from traditional "news" sources and more inclined to put on their bullshit waders and filter everything they hear from all sources including traditional "news" sources.

People should have been doing that 200 years ago. We had a fucking newspaper chain that got us into a war with fucking Spain. So what if it was a design flaw that sunk the Maine? Design flaws don't sell, fucking WAR sells. And what about WWI? So what if the Lusitania was actually carrying munitions? Cursing the damned Hun was a guaranteed seller. And what about the papers and TV networks that deliberately reported everything that Tail-Gunner Joe said as if was the gospel truth? No matter that thousands of lives and careers were needlessly flushed, nothing like a good old red scare to drum up business.

Don't ever tell me the media in this country has ever been interested in truth. Media has ALWAYS been about selling copy first and reporting facts second.

Moving Sale · Post by **Moving Sale** » Tue Sep 17, 2013 12:02 am

Smackie Chan wrote: I work in Bldg 197 at the Washington Navy Yard.

So it's safe to say you are too stupid to get a real job?

War Wagon · Post by **War Wagon** » Tue Sep 17, 2013 1:12 am

Moving Sale wrote:
Smackie Chan wrote: I work in Bldg 197 at the Washington Navy Yard.
So it's safe to say you are too stupid to get a real job?

This, coming from the shit stained ambulance chaser who can't even listen to the tunes in chat/radio because you're internet service sucks worse than WebTV.

Why do you insist on 'tarding up every thread you stumble across?

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Tue Sep 17, 2013 1:50 am

War Wagon wrote:This, coming from the shit stained ambulance chaser who can't even listen to the tunes in chat/radio because you're internet service sucks worse than WebTV.

Why do you insist on 'tarding up every thread you stumble across?

His service is OK, it's the iPhone 4s he's using.

War Wagon · Post by **War Wagon** » Tue Sep 17, 2013 2:16 am

whatever, it's the height of irony that the bitter midget has the gumption to call the guy spinning the tunes that he can't even listen to "too stupid to get a real job". That was sorta' the point.

I could go on, but the rabid mongoloid doesn't even the deserve the courtesy of a good thrashing. I mean, a good dog who pisses on the carpet gets whacked with a rolled up newspaper. A worthless dog gets a bullet. Tvo, aside from being ignored, exhausted T1Bs' magazine long ago. Why he doesn't just crawl off and die in shame under a bridge is a mystery.

trev · Post by **trev** » Tue Sep 17, 2013 3:13 am

The dead are all older civilians. I assume Smackie knew some of them?

poptart · Post by **poptart** » Tue Sep 17, 2013 6:43 am

How was he able to get the weapon in?

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Tue Sep 17, 2013 11:40 am

88 wrote:iSwifter app makes the iPhone and iPad play the radio.

He's even aware of that app. But he won't install it until he gets his iPhone 5.

mvscal · Post by **mvscal** » Tue Sep 17, 2013 12:04 pm

BSmack wrote:
88 wrote:
BSmack wrote:And what about WWI? So what if the Lusitania was actually carrying munitions? Cursing the damned Hun was a guaranteed seller. And what about the papers and TV networks that deliberately reported everything that Tail-Gunner Joe said as if was the gospel truth? No matter that thousands of lives and careers were needlessly flushed, nothing like a good old red scare to drum up business.

Don't ever tell me the media in this country has ever been interested in truth. Media has ALWAYS been about selling copy first and reporting facts second.

The sinking of the Lusitania had jack fucking shit to do with us getting into WWI, you fucking moron. You probably even know this so why are lying about it? Whose water are carrying and why?

Oh, for the record, McCarthy's concerns were well grounded in fact. He might have gotten some of the names wrong but this country was crawling with Soviet agents in all walks of life. The Venona papers made that abundantly clear.

Smackie Chan · Post by **Smackie Chan** » Tue Sep 17, 2013 12:45 pm

War Wagon wrote:
I wrote:I decided to stay home this morning & work from here.
Must be nice to have that option. How often can and do you get by with that?

Some people telecommute a day each week. I do it maybe a handful of days a year.

Shlomo wrote:Smackie, in hindsight, you should have smoked a fat bowl this past weekend.

No way they'll waste time piss-testing until the dust settles...

I'm not in a testable position.

Moving Sale wrote:
I wrote:I work in Bldg 197 at the Washington Navy Yard.
So it's safe to say you are too stupid to get a real job?

Bldg 197 is where the Office of Legal Counsel resides, so yeah, you'd be in no danger saying that.

trev wrote:The dead are all older civilians. I assume Smackie knew some of them?

I've seen the names of seven of the victims; don't know any of them so far. And they're not all "older"! :brad:

poptart wrote:How was he able to get the weapon in?

Anyone with an employee badge could easily get one or three or five in. We don't have to go through metal detectors or get searched to get to our desks. We have to walk past some Barney Fifes, but that's no challenge. I suspect that's gonna change here soon.

MgoBlue-LightSpecial · Tue Sep 17, 2013 2:10 pm

Glad you're okay, but next time, I call dibs on your digital record player.

Imus · Post by **Imus** » Tue Sep 17, 2013 2:32 pm

mvscal wrote: Valachi papers.

Mikey · Post by **Mikey** » Tue Sep 17, 2013 3:18 pm

Screw_Michigan wrote:
88 wrote:The news agencies, as per usualm, are putting out conflicting reports in an effort to be first to report anything.
What are they supposed to do, confer with each other before reporting?

Maybe, just maybe, they should make sure they're reporting facts and not rumors.

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Tue Sep 17, 2013 5:16 pm

mvscal wrote:The sinking of the Lusitania had jack fucking shit to do with us getting into WWI, you fucking moron. You probably even know this so why are lying about it? Whose water are carrying and why?

You're conflating my claim about the Spanish American War and the sinking of the Lusitania. The Lusitania was 2 years before Wilson asked for a declaration of war.

Oh, for the record, McCarthy's concerns were well grounded in fact. He might have gotten some of the names wrong but this country was crawling with Soviet agents in all walks of life. The Venona papers made that abundantly clear.

McCarthy had no access to the Venona papers whatsoever. He was an alcoholic rant machine with a one track mind. The fact that he might have occasionally been right with an accusation doesn't mean it was grounded in fact.

Shlomart Ben Yisrael · Tue Sep 17, 2013 6:21 pm

Imus wrote:
mvscal wrote: Valachi papers.

rack

Cuda · Post by **Cuda** » Tue Sep 17, 2013 6:36 pm

BMonica wrote:
McCarthy had no access to the Venona papers whatsoever. He was an alcoholic rant machine with a one track mind. The fact that he might have occasionally been right with an accusation doesn't mean it was grounded in fact.

Name one that he was wrong about

mvscal · Post by **mvscal** » Tue Sep 17, 2013 10:46 pm

BSmack wrote:You're conflating my claim about the Spanish American War and the sinking of the Lusitania. The Lusitania was 2 years before Wilson asked for a declaration of war.

Yes, it was. You did seem to imply that it did, though. As far as "cursing the Hun" is concerned, of course the action was reviled in the press and rightly so. Had the Germans ordered the ship to heave to and prepare to be boarded, steered the ship to a neutral port and impounded the cargo, nobody would have had shit to say about it. In fact, it would have been quite the PR coup for Germany but they didn't. They torpedoed the ship without warning and killed 1,200 civilians including 130 Americans.

That's an action that deserves more than a little opprobrium from the press, wouldn't you say?

McCarthy had no access to the Venona papers whatsoever. He was an alcoholic rant machine with a one track mind. The fact that he might have occasionally been right with an accusation doesn't mean it was grounded in fact.

Of course he was grounded in fact. The country was lousy with Soviet spies. It's not a "witch hunt" if the witches are real.

smackaholic · Post by **smackaholic** » Wed Sep 18, 2013 12:38 am

Been watching the news about what a documented bat shit crazy fukk this a-hole was. Also, his military record is, shall we say, less than stellar. And still, he lands a decent IT gig for a contractor?

I would bet a few bucks that if dude is white or Asian, no fukking way he lands such a gig with his history. But being a nog, contractors bend over backwards to hire him to show how non-racist they are.

Nice.

War Wagon · Post by **War Wagon** » Wed Sep 18, 2013 1:24 am

smackaholic wrote:...being a nog, contractors bend over backwards to hire him to show how non-racist they are.

more likely, they bend over backwards hiring a qualified somebody with a security clearance.

direct your indignation (and ignorance) elsewhere, dipshit.

mvscal · Post by **mvscal** » Wed Sep 18, 2013 1:31 am

War Wagon wrote:
smackaholic wrote:...being a nog, contractors bend over backwards to hire him to show how non-racist they are.
more likely, they bend over backwards hiring a qualified somebody with a security clearance.

direct your indignation (and ignorance) elsewhere, dipshit.

Don't pretend that they don't have quotas to fill, dumbfuck. I know lots of construction firms spin off "minorty owned" start ups so they can get certified as MOBs and bid on contracts as such. In many instances, it's the only way they can bid on those jobs.

It's a complete joke.

Screw_Michigan · Post by **Screw_Michigan** » Wed Sep 18, 2013 1:42 am

Gotta love the government security clearance process.

Smoke a little dope, or perhaps, used to back in the day? Fuck you! How DARE you even ask for permission.

Multiple gun felonies in your past? Rubber stamped, that's your 2nd amendment rights coming through.

The Whistle Is Screaming · Wed Sep 18, 2013 2:07 am

Glad to hear your record player is not up for dibs, Smackie.

smackaholic · Post by **smackaholic** » Wed Sep 18, 2013 7:11 pm

War Wagon wrote:
smackaholic wrote:...being a nog, contractors bend over backwards to hire him to show how non-racist they are.
more likely, they bend over backwards hiring a qualified somebody with a security clearance.

direct your indignation (and ignorance) elsewhere, dipshit.

Looks like that stroke stomped out the 3 brain cells you still had firing wags.

This fukker had a shit record and still got hired. Lets hear your attempt at an explanation.

War Wagon · Post by **War Wagon** » Wed Sep 18, 2013 11:21 pm

it's not about him being hired by a privately owned contractor, doofus, it's about how he obtained and kept a government security clearance with access to a military installation.

light coming on yet or do I need to type 'gubmint bidness' before your synapses fire?

jiminphilly · Post by **jiminphilly** » Thu Sep 19, 2013 1:57 pm

the “Piers Morgan Live” host did broadcast a blunder of his own by insisting during a debate with gun rights advocates on Monday that Aaron Alexis — the man who killed 12 people during a shooting spree in Washington, D.C. — legally purchased an AR-15 rifle from a gun store in Virginia.

“I’m telling you a fact, Ben. He bought it in Virginia. Legally,” Morgan told conservative radio host Ben Ferguson. “This is the problem with America’s gun laws. It’s not legal where he did the act, it’s legal around the corner. There’s no federal ban on AR-15s, so that’s why they keep being used.”

The FBI agent in charge of the investigation said on Tuesday that Alexis bought a shotgun to carry out the attack, not an AR-15 that Morgan insisted as “fact.”

His ratings suck so at least he won't be around for too much longer.

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Thu Sep 19, 2013 2:21 pm

The whole adversarial paradigm that is cable news needs to be flushed like the stale turd it is.

Screw_Michigan · Post by **Screw_Michigan** » Thu Sep 19, 2013 4:11 pm

Morgan is a piece of shit who was hacking into dead kids phones when he worked in England. Just more proof CNN hiring agents need to be dragged into the street and shot.