New Georgia gun law.

[Rooster]

Dude in that picture is either gonna shoot his foot or his dick off-- or both --what with having his finger on the trigger while pulling his gat from his pocket. And speaking of which, who would choose that particular piece to pack in his front jeans pocket? Better to have a 5 round hammerless snub nosed revolver than an auto that'll catch on the fabric as he draws down footless and dickless on the bad guy.

[Rooster]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but in that article it states this new law would allow felons to invoke the SYG defense, but I am under the impression felons may not own or operate guns unless specifically authorized by the state. If that is correct, standing your ground with a firearm is negated by the illegal use of such a weapon. True or not true?

[Rooster]

"But opponents of the bill were so overwhelmed by the scope of the bill as it swept through the legislature that they described one of their primary goals as ensuring that lawmakers at least “go through the bill in detail.” As MSNBC reports, “a lack of transparency left many residents and organizations puzzled about which measures were included and which were removed from the legislation” as it made its way through committees in both houses."

We have to pass the bill to see what's in it! --Nancy Pelosi on Obamacare

[kcdave]

The crime rate won't go down - you can bet on that.

FTFY

[smackaholic]

Kind of a shame that states have to say that the 2nd amendment is still in effect.

[Felix]

http://www.ecclesia.org/truth/kennesaw.html

Sure as fuck did in Kennesaw...

it did? can you get me the statistics on that?
statistical data is really the only way to verify these alleged reductions in crime, so go ahead and hook me up with the info so I can see it for myself.....

just out of curiousity, how does the city know that everybody is abiding by the law, knock on the door for a firearms check?

passing a gun law that allows people to take guns into a bar?
what could possibly go wrong there?

[Left Seater]

Felix,

Here is some of the info on the crime reduction in Texas 10 years into CC.


Ten years later, and the statistics continue to prove the point.

Since the passage of the Concealed Handgun Law, the FBI Uniform Crime Report shows an 18% drop in handgun murders, down from 838 in 1995 to 688 in 2004. And a 13% drop in handgun murders per 100,000 population, down from 4.5 murders per 100,000 Texans in 1995 to 3.95 per 100,000 in 2004.

In 2000, on the fifth anniversary of the Concealed Handgun Law, the National Center for Policy Analysis issued a report that indicated Texans with concealed carry permits are far less likely to commit a serious crime than the average citizen.

According to the report, the more than 200,000 Texans licensed to carry a concealed firearm are much more law-abiding than the average person.

The report illustrated that Texans who exercise their right to carry firearms are 5.7 times less likely to be arrested for a violent offense. They are 14 times less likely to be arrested for a non-violent offense. And they are 1.4 times less likely to be arrested for murder.

H. Sterling Burnett, a senior policy analyst at the NCPA and the author of the report, concluded:

“Many predicted that minor incidents would escalate into bloody shootouts if Texas passed a concealed-carry law. That prediction was dead wrong,” Burnett said.

With 247,345 concealed handgun licenses active in Texas as of December 2005, the number of law-abiding licensees has had a positive effect on the crime rate.

Texas Department of Public Safety Uniform Crime Report indicates the overall crime rate in Texas has continued to drop over the past 10 years. In 1997, DPS reported 5,478 crimes per 100,000 Texans, based on a population of 19,355,427 Texans. In 2004, with almost 3 million more Texans, the crime rate is 5,032 per 100,000.

The effect of the Concealed Handgun Law has been so positive, it has converted some of its most outspoken initial critics.


John Holmes, former Harris County district attorney:

“As you know, I was very outspoken in my opposition to the passage of the Concealed Handgun Act. I did not feel that such legislation was in the public interest and presented a clear and present danger to law abiding citizens by placing more handguns on our streets,” Holmes wrote. “Boy was I wrong. Our experience in Harris County , and indeed state-wide, has proven my initial fears absolutely groundless.”


Glenn White, president of the Dallas Police Association: “I lobbied against the law in 1993 and 1995 because I thought it would lead to wholesale armed conflict. That hasn't happened,” White told the Dallas Morning News. “All the horror stories I thought would come to pass didn't happen. No bogeyman. I think it's worked out well, and that says good things about the citizens who have permits. I'm a convert.”

[Dinsdale]

LS, while I believe that CC laws have either little effect, or a slight positive effect on violent crime rates, you've fallen for it...

There's 3 types of lies: "Lies," "Damn Lies," and "Statistics."

So, the handgun violence rates in Texas were completely in line with the national trend, including non-concealed states over the same period?

Wow, what a :SHOCKER:

This example of Cause/Effect is a joke.

Haven't heard anything recently, but Oregon (where 1 in 16 adults has a CCP, or thereabouts) last I heard still hadn't had a violent crime committed by a permit holder (that they were charged for, anyway). Had quite a few prevented by them, though.

[Dinsdale]

other metro Atlanta city's with similar populations

RACK!

Sin,
Smackaholic, Go C'o'o'gs', et al