Gimme some Gangsta Rap

kcdave · Post by **kcdave** » Mon May 16, 2005 3:39 am

Im looking to expand my Gangsta Rap library. NWA/Easy E/Dr.Dre/IceCube, Too Short, is pretty much all that I have/had for the last 15 years.

Who else would you recommend?

Bizzarofelice · Post by **Bizzarofelice** » Mon May 16, 2005 12:17 pm

Ice-T Iceberg. Power is really good, too.

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Mon May 16, 2005 1:09 pm

2 Pac, Digital Underground (where 2 Pac got his start), Ice-T, Biggie Smalls (AKA B.I.G), Cypress Hill, Naughty By Nature, Big Daddy Kane...

That should keep you going for a while with thug rap. If you want some millitant shit that isn't all bitches and hos, take a listen to KRS1, Eric B and Rakim and Public Enemy for starters.

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Mon May 16, 2005 2:17 pm

Take it to the Urban Poetry forum.

This one's for music.

MuchoBulls · Post by **MuchoBulls** » Mon May 16, 2005 2:20 pm

Geto Boys

SunCoastSooner · Post by **SunCoastSooner** » Mon May 16, 2005 3:45 pm

Bizzarofelice · Post by **Bizzarofelice** » Mon May 16, 2005 3:45 pm

MuchoBulls wrote:Geto Boys

werd. Loves me some bushwick.

2 Pac sucks.
Digital Underground is genus but don't think its gangsta.

Ice-T is genius

Biggie Smalls (AKA B.I.G) ain't gangsta

Cypress Hill ain't gangsta

Naughty By Nature ain't gangsta

Big Daddy Kane predates gangsta

KRS1 sucks

Eric B and Rakim fucking rock.

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Mon May 16, 2005 3:47 pm

Bizzarofelice wrote: Eric B and Rakim fucking rock.

If they're "rappers," how exactly do they "rock?"

About the usual intelligence that's associated with Urban Poetry.

Bizzarofelice · Post by **Bizzarofelice** » Mon May 16, 2005 3:57 pm

Dinsdale wrote:
Bizzarofelice wrote: Eric B and Rakim fucking rock.
If they're "rappers," how exactly do they "rock?"

About the usual intelligence that's associated with Urban Poetry.

Loves me some Predictablesdale Pirahna.

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Mon May 16, 2005 4:14 pm

Bizzarofelice wrote:
MuchoBulls wrote:Geto Boys
werd. Loves me some bushwick.

2 Pac sucks. Digital Underground is genus but don't think its gangsta. Ice-T is genius, Biggie Smalls (AKA B.I.G) ain't gangsta, Cypress Hill ain't gangsta, Naughty By Nature ain't gangsta, Big Daddy Kane predates gangsta, KRS1 sucks, Eric B and Rakim fucking rock.

I'll give you that Big Daddy, Digital Underground and Naughty By Nature ain't your typical "gangsta" fare. I threw them in for flavor and becasue they had a profound influence on the sounds of the time.

But how the fuck is Cypress Hill not gangsta? Sure, they didn't go the mysogenistic route, but they had all the beats, guns, homophobia and blunt smoking you could ask for. Not to mention the haytin on the cops thing down cold.

Same goes for BIG. It wasn't his fault his producer had the flow of a spastic chimp on mollassas. Besides, the motherfucker got killed in a drive by. How much more gangsta can you get? ;)

Don't get me started on 2 Pac. I guess you either love him or hate him. I personaly think no thug rapper in history ever could ryhme as hard as 2 Pac while still allowing his true vulnerability to come through.

Reflected and disrespected, plus I'm rejected
You're just another rapper, who swears he's makin records
That's what they said - whenever I would walk by
I never tripped though - always kept my head up high
Eventually, I knew that I would find my way
After the darkest night, always comes a brighter day
And some would say, that turned away is all you'll get
I just said, "bet," and never let 'em see me sweat
Cause in the end, I knew that I would have it all
while non-believers, were prayin for my downfall
And some would call, and tell me that they wish me well
but in my heart, I'm knowin that they wish me hell
Yo get a real job, rappin doesn't pay the rent
I hate the studio cause that's where all my money went
Never surrender, it's all about the faith you've got
Don't ever stop, just push it til you hit the top
And if you drop, at least you know you gave your all
Be true to you, and that way you can never fall
But beware, these backstabbers ain't no joke
Just like a rope, they hang on you until you're broke
And when you're broke, they move onto the next dope
And there you are, can't even pay your car, nope
And when you reminisce, thinkin how you got dissed
remember how it felt, and then remember this
Be true to you, believe that there's no one bigger
Cause they can all suck dick - it's strictly for my niggaz

It ain't Dickens, Shelly or Keats. But that's all been said before. Right? ;)

I'm sorry for forgetting the Geto Boys. That was unforgivable.

Peace, we out.

Bizzarofelice · Post by **Bizzarofelice** » Mon May 16, 2005 4:28 pm

I guess I always considered Gangsta rap to be a SoCal thing.

BSmack wrote: It wasn't his fault his producer had the flow of a spastic chimp on mollassas.

beautiful.

Don't get me started on 2 Pac.

I won't. I guess I don't look to rap music to hear a fake thug / person-who-never-got-his-shit-attitude-put-in-check cry about his pampereed life. Some people love his "vulnerability". I found it to be whining. He was more interested in themes most often found at coffee house open mic nights.

No way you're going to tell me 2Pac is a better rapper than Nas.

It ain't Dickens, Shelly or Keats.

Its the shit you find in a high school journal.

Justa Heel · Post by **Justa Heel** » Mon May 16, 2005 4:54 pm

Rack Bace.

Tupac is fucking ghhheeeeeeeeey.

Another MTV-driven corporate monster.

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Mon May 16, 2005 5:01 pm

Bizzarofelice wrote:rap music

Admins -- please ban this idiot.

If I can make the same sound by pushing one fucking button on a Casiotone, and giving some hoodrat $10 worth of drugs, it's not "music." Never has been, never will be.

That being said, Bace is the best mod this board could ever have. I love his discretion with our posts and value his opinion on all matters pertaining to the music forum.

In fact, I bet his record collection would give me erections.

Justa Heel · Post by **Justa Heel** » Mon May 16, 2005 6:24 pm

Dinsdale wrote:
Bizzarofelice wrote:rap music
Admins -- please ban this idiot.

If I can make the same sound by pushing one fucking button on a Casiotone, and giving some hoodrat $10 worth of drugs, it's not "music." Never has been, never will be.

That being said, Bace is the best mod this board could ever have. I love his discretion with our posts and value his opinion on all matters pertaining to the music forum.

In fact, I bet his record collection would give me erections.

Why would you want to ban bace after giving him all those props?

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Mon May 16, 2005 6:34 pm

Justa Heel wrote:Rack Bace. Tupac is fucking ghhheeeeeeeeey. Another MTV-driven corporate monster.

Some of us were listening to Pac way before he signed with Death Row and started getting MTV airplay. If all you ever heard of Tupac was his Dear Momma raps, then I can understand why you hate him.

Bace,

I'm not going to say that Tupac was a "better" rapper than Nas. I'm not one of those who claims Tupac was the "best ever". He was a hell of a rapper who was in the process of selling out just as he got whacked. But he wasn't all that the idiots putting his face on t-shirts and graffiti art make him out to be.

BTW: I'll be the first to say I'm not an authority on [covers dins ears]rap music[/covers dins ears], but I know what I like. I liked Pac before he got run on MTV and I still think he had a flow and a sound better than most rappers.

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Mon May 16, 2005 6:39 pm

Justa Heel wrote:
Dinsdale wrote:
Bizzarofelice wrote:rap music
Admins -- please ban this idiot.

If I can make the same sound by pushing one fucking button on a Casiotone, and giving some hoodrat $10 worth of drugs, it's not "music." Never has been, never will be.

That being said, Bace is the best mod this board could ever have. I love his discretion with our posts and value his opinion on all matters pertaining to the music forum.

In fact, I bet his record collection would give me erections.
Why would you want to ban bace after giving him all those props?

OK. Give him HPOD, then ban him.

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Mon May 16, 2005 8:09 pm

http://s38.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=331Y ... 59XXC8Z1J5

Donovan · Post by **Donovan** » Mon May 16, 2005 8:38 pm

Dinsdale wrote:If I can make the same sound by pushing one fucking button on a Casiotone, and giving some hoodrat $10 worth of drugs, it's not "music." Never has been, never will be.

I'm going to use the shutyomouth defense... If it's so easy, why don't you do it? From the sound of your post you could be the next Lil Jon with hardly any effort. Sounds like a good way to make a few easy million.

Sorry I can't offer anything to this thread. I don't listen to "gangsta" rap. I like my hip hop a little more literate. Bustin' flows about Dewey Decimal and shit.

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Mon May 16, 2005 8:40 pm

Because I exploit retards for sex, not money. That would be wrong.

stuckinia · Post by **stuckinia** » Mon May 16, 2005 10:45 pm

Bizzarofelice · Post by **Bizzarofelice** » Mon May 16, 2005 11:31 pm

Justa Heel wrote:Why would you want to ban bace after giving him all those props?

Because a mod abused his powers to give Bace all those props. I thought the proper use of grammar would tip everyone off.

But me and dinsenthal are cool. We can abuse each other like 8 year olds finding themselves in a dark far-away closet.

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Mon May 16, 2005 11:35 pm

Consider yourself lucky.....VERY lucky, that you don't post in the golf forum.

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Mon May 16, 2005 11:38 pm

Bizzarofelice wrote:I thought the proper use of grammar would tip everyone off.

You needed a comma between "our" and "posts."

You needed an apostrophe followed by two instances of the letter "L" after "I."

Bizzarofelice · Post by **Bizzarofelice** » Mon May 16, 2005 11:39 pm

BSmack wrote:But he wasn't all that the idiots putting his face on t-shirts and graffiti art make him out to be.

Point accepted.

BTW: I'll be the first to say I'm not an authority on [covers dins ears]rap music[/covers dins ears], but I know what I like.

I'm not an authority either. Like you, I'm just expressing my opinions thinking it may bring about discussion. My hip-hop interest comes more from finding old jazz breaks and records in dusty crates. My interest will always be more with the DJ and less with the rapper. That being said, I've been exposed to plenty and formulated an opnion from that.

I liked Pac before he got run on MTV and I still think he had a flow and a sound better than most rappers.

Flow I'll give you. When faced with Biggie's fat tongue taking up most of his mouf, Tupac had flow. Still I'd rather have anyone else's non-teenjournal rhymes to go with that flow.

The Assassin · Post by **The Assassin** » Tue May 17, 2005 1:26 am

Gangstarr

Paris

old Snoop Dogg

Black Moon

EPMD

kcdave · Post by **kcdave** » Tue May 17, 2005 1:36 am

BSmack wrote:2 Pac, Digital Underground (where 2 Pac got his start), Ice-T, Biggie Smalls (AKA B.I.G), Cypress Hill, Naughty By Nature, Big Daddy Kane...

That should keep you going for a while with thug rap. If you want some millitant shit that isn't all bitches and hos, take a listen to KRS1, Eric B and Rakim and Public Enemy for starters.

Im strictly looking for the bitches and ho type raps. I have some KRS1, Eric B and Rakim, Public Enemy along with all of Run DMC, Beasties, and Eminem. I used to have some Ice T, and BDK, and will be replacing those. Also have a few tunes from ICP.

Out all the gangsta shit, Easy E has to be my favorite. Dude put out some funny stuff. War - rapping about getting pussy to the theme from Green Acres!

MiketheangrydrunkenCUfan · Tue May 17, 2005 9:37 am

kcdave wrote:
BSmack wrote:2 Pac, Digital Underground (where 2 Pac got his start), Ice-T, Biggie Smalls (AKA B.I.G), Cypress Hill, Naughty By Nature, Big Daddy Kane...

That should keep you going for a while with thug rap. If you want some millitant shit that isn't all bitches and hos, take a listen to KRS1, Eric B and Rakim and Public Enemy for starters.
Im strictly looking for the bitches and ho type raps. I have some KRS1, Eric B and Rakim, Public Enemy along with all of Run DMC, Beasties, and Eminem. I used to have some Ice T, and BDK, and will be replacing those. Also have a few tunes from ICP.

Out all the gangsta shit, Easy E has to be my favorite. Dude put out some funny stuff. War - rapping about getting pussy to the theme from Green Acres!

Well, for starters, pick up some of the other Ruthless Records stuff from the same era like Above The Law and The DOC. Compton's Most Wanted and DJ Quik were also pretty nice back in the late 80s/early 90s. Also, Penthouse Players Clique was pretty tight. Hope that helps...

Justa Heel · Post by **Justa Heel** » Tue May 17, 2005 3:14 pm

How bout some Tim Dog?

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Tue May 17, 2005 7:16 pm

Bizzarofelice wrote:I'm not an authority either. Like you, I'm just expressing my opinions thinking it may bring about discussion. My hip-hop interest comes more from finding old jazz breaks and records in dusty crates. My interest will always be more with the DJ and less with the rapper. That being said, I've been exposed to plenty and formulated an opnion from that.

Flow I'll give you. When faced with Biggie's fat tongue taking up most of his mouf, Tupac had flow. Still I'd rather have anyone else's non-teenjournal rhymes to go with that flow.

And I'm a singer who knows just how hard it is to write lyrics that flow with the music. I will also admit that Tupac was one of the first rappers I listened to back in the late early 90s when I first started becomming aware of hip hop. So maybe I'm just a sentimental old dog.

Invictus · Post by **Invictus** » Tue May 17, 2005 7:23 pm

SunCoastSooner wrote:UGK

Rack that. Someone from Houston played me "Pregnant Pussy" when I was a frosh in college. A very disturbing yet catchy song.

If you want some real gangsta shit, peep:
Kid Frost
Ice Cube first three albums only
Too Short
Willie D "Controversy"

Like Back Row, Middle, I also considered "Gangsta Rap" to be a predominately West Coast thing so I don't know if Mobb Deep would be in this category.

Rack Dins. His propensity to post like an old fogey is proportional to how much his hairline recedes each month.

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Tue May 17, 2005 7:27 pm

Invictus wrote:Rack Dins. His propensity to post like an old fogey is proportional to how much his hairline recedes each month.

You may have hit on it. I'm as old as he is. It must be because I have more hair on my head than on my back that I can appreciate the finer points of rap music. :wink:

Cuda · Post by **Cuda** » Tue May 17, 2005 7:34 pm

BSmack wrote: finer points of rap music.

BWAAAAAAAHAHAHA

Oxymoron much?

The Assassin · Post by **The Assassin** » Tue May 17, 2005 11:13 pm

Justa Heel wrote:How bout some Tim Dog?

Fuck Compton!!

Invictus · Post by **Invictus** » Tue May 17, 2005 11:30 pm

^Rack that. Let me go play that song and take a spin in my way back machine.

I miss the Middle School.

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Wed May 18, 2005 1:01 pm

Cuda wrote:
BSmack wrote: finer points of rap music.
BWAAAAAAAHAHAHA

Oxymoron much?

Don't you have a Lynerd Skynerd tour to be planning for?