Socialism In My Neighbourhood

Shlomart Ben Yisrael · Wed Aug 20, 2014 8:34 pm

Herbert DeSouza. Good Socialist. Anti-poverty activist.

Pic taken in my 'hood on the anniversary of his death.

mvscal · Post by **mvscal** » Wed Aug 20, 2014 8:40 pm

Nobody cares, Sudden Socialist.

Left Seater · Post by **Left Seater** » Wed Aug 20, 2014 8:50 pm

I'm calling BS.

Canadians would never admit there is graffiti in Canada.

Shlomart Ben Yisrael · Wed Aug 20, 2014 9:01 pm

Sudden Sam wrote:
mvscal wrote:Nobody cares, Sudden Socialist.
Wha...?

I know. It's hard to say who should take more offense...

Wolfman · Post by **Wolfman** » Thu Aug 21, 2014 12:15 am

Pretty neat graffiti. Not a typical tag job. Not that I have any experience.

smackaholic · Post by **smackaholic** » Thu Aug 21, 2014 12:30 am

I am actually a big fan of voluntary socialism on the neighborhood level. But, it quickly goes to shit when it gets any bigger.

Wolfman · Post by **Wolfman** » Thu Aug 21, 2014 1:16 am

Amazing "find" 88. I saw that when we were traveling north of Toronto off Yonge Street.

smackaholic · Post by **smackaholic** » Thu Aug 21, 2014 10:47 am

I saw it in a stall at TF Green Airport in Providence, yesterday.

Fukk, that guy gets around.

Shlomart Ben Yisrael · Sun Oct 26, 2014 12:48 pm

Carson · Post by **Carson** » Sun Oct 26, 2014 5:00 pm

Pussies.

Jay in Phoenix · Post by **Jay in Phoenix** » Mon Oct 27, 2014 6:57 pm

Prime Minister Harper: "While I appreciate the effort Marty, our Socialist movement does not include bribes in shekels."

Schlomart: "Oy gevalt! Es shtumeh di tsinger ven du host in kesheneh klinger.

"You smell like gefilte fish."

"Im hatipshut hayta etz, ata hayita chorshat kakal!"

Shlomart Ben Yisrael · Mon Mar 30, 2015 8:24 pm

Socialist Action are a bunch of dirty Trotskyites, but we'll settle that matter after the coming class war.

Shlomart Ben Yisrael · Mon Mar 30, 2015 8:29 pm

http://socialistaction.ca/

The chicks are hot, though...

muthah-fukken right

Roger_the_Shrubber · Post by **Roger_the_Shrubber** » Mon Mar 30, 2015 9:00 pm

Shlomart Ben Yisrael wrote:

Socialist Action are a bunch of dirty Trotskyites, but we'll settle that matter after the coming class war.

I"ll take the 'class' that has the most guns and give the points.

Shlomart Ben Yisrael · Mon Mar 30, 2015 9:03 pm

Nobody cares what you think, loser.

Shlomart Ben Yisrael · Wed Jul 15, 2015 6:18 pm

A good time was had by ~~all~~...~~some~~...me.

Shlomart Ben Yisrael · Mon Sep 14, 2015 7:59 pm

Wolfman · Post by **Wolfman** » Mon Sep 14, 2015 8:38 pm

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Mon Sep 14, 2015 8:59 pm

It is called Democratic Socialism. And we would hardly be the first country to embrace the concept.

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Mon Sep 14, 2015 9:04 pm

Where Wolfie learned about socialism.

Wolfman · Post by **Wolfman** » Mon Sep 14, 2015 10:55 pm

Democratic Socialism? Could there ever be a more exemplary oxymoron? Orwell's Animal Farm says it all.

Jay in Phoenix · Post by **Jay in Phoenix** » Mon Sep 14, 2015 11:09 pm

Wolfman kind of hit a solid point here, as the "Animal Farm" analogy is pretty right on.

Great book by Orwell and a lesson through analogy, that seems to have been forgotten, or ignored, over the years.

Especially in this country and this administration and the drones who buy into what they're selling.

mvscal · Post by **mvscal** » Mon Sep 14, 2015 11:27 pm

BSmack wrote:It is called Democratic Socialism. And we would hardly be the first country to embrace the concept.

Sure. It's working just swell in Venezuela. We should be more like them. Good plan. Oh, wait that's exactly what we're doing one wetback at a time.

Wolfman · Post by **Wolfman** » Mon Sep 14, 2015 11:52 pm

Maybe Bri and others could live in a place where something as basic as a roll of Charmin is scarce. I choose free enterprise. It even gives me choices.

Jay in Phoenix · Post by **Jay in Phoenix** » Tue Sep 15, 2015 12:05 am

Wolfman wrote:Maybe Bri and others could live in a place where something as basic as a roll of Charmin is scarce. I choose free enterprise. It even gives me choices.

It is odd that you used that example Wolfie. A very long long time ago I made a short film where a thief was going through several trials to steal an incredibly valuable object, only to have the reveal be a single roll of toilet tissue. Your premise is not so far off, given the topic.

Bread, milk, paper...how we take these basic staples for granted.

Price eggs lately?

Stay tuned.

Shlomart Ben Yisrael · Tue Sep 15, 2015 12:06 am

Wolfman wrote:I choose free enterprise. It even gives me choices.

The freedom to die in a ditch.

Jay in Phoenix · Post by **Jay in Phoenix** » Tue Sep 15, 2015 12:13 am

Shlomart Ben Yisrael wrote:
Wolfman wrote:I choose free enterprise. It even gives me choices.
The freedom to die in a ditch.

Have you even read Orwell Marty?

Shlomart Ben Yisrael · Tue Sep 15, 2015 12:16 am

Jay in Phoenix wrote:
Shlomart Ben Yisrael wrote:
Wolfman wrote:I choose free enterprise. It even gives me choices.
The freedom to die in a ditch.
Have you even read Orwell Marty?

Have you?

Do you even know what Animal Farm is about?

Do you know anything about Orwell's backstory? His politics? His affiliations?

Shlomart Ben Yisrael · Tue Sep 15, 2015 12:23 am

Your bourgeois ruling class wishes that you don't investigate your own country's long and rich history of socialism.

It was pretty much "field tested" in America over a hundred years ago.

mvscal · Post by **mvscal** » Tue Sep 15, 2015 12:25 am

Jay in Phoenix wrote:
Wolfman wrote:Maybe Bri and others could live in a place where something as basic as a roll of Charmin is scarce. I choose free enterprise. It even gives me choices.
It is odd that you used that example Wolfie.

"You don't necessarily need a choice of 23 underarm spray deodorants or of 18 different pairs of sneakers when children are hungry in this country. I don't think the media appreciates the kind of stress that ordinary Americans are working on."

--Bernie Sanders

I, for one, am certainly relieved that Bernie Sanders is here to tell me what I do not need. I can hardly wait to find out which other things I might not need.

Shlomart Ben Yisrael · Tue Sep 15, 2015 12:35 am

mvscal wrote:I can hardly wait to find out which other things I might not need.

I don't know about Bernie, but personally, I would make blindfolds "optional".

Jay in Phoenix · Post by **Jay in Phoenix** » Tue Sep 15, 2015 12:41 am

Shlomart Ben Yisrael wrote:
Jay in Phoenix wrote:
Have you even read Orwell Marty?
Have you?

Do you even know what Animal Farm is about?

Do you know anything about Orwell's backstory? His politics? His affiliations?

Yes, of course I have read Orwell. I could care less about his history or backstory, I am only referring to his book and the message within. Are you telling me you embrace the socialistic warnings that the story is about?

I know the message of the book, I am just wondering if YOU do?

No offense dude, but theoretical history is on the horizon.

Do you want to have more than just milk in bags?

Shlomart Ben Yisrael · Tue Sep 15, 2015 12:56 am

Orwell (a committed Trotskyite) was warning about authoritarianism, but I'll grant it that Stalinism was in his sites primarily.

If you equate organised labour and free education with Stalinism, you have a screw loose.

Dr_Phibes · Post by **Dr_Phibes** » Tue Sep 15, 2015 1:06 am

Jay in Phoenix wrote: Yes, of course I have read Orwell. I could care less about his history or backstory, I am only referring to his book and the message within. Are you telling me you embrace the socialistic warnings that the story is about?

I know the message of the book, I am just wondering if YOU do?

It's important to know Orwell's background to know that he wasn't a socialist. He might have thought he was for a short period of time, but he soon discovered that he didn't have the bottle for it and didn't understand it. There are socialist warnings in the book from an early, failed militant hippy, not from a socialist.

mvscal · Post by **mvscal** » Tue Sep 15, 2015 1:16 am

Dr_Phibes wrote:It's important to know Orwell's background to know that he wasn't a socialist. He might have thought he was for a short period of time, but he soon discovered that he didn't have the bottle for it and didn't understand it. There are socialist warnings in the book from an early, failed militant hippy, not from a socialist.

Ah yes, of course, the "No True Scotsman" fallacy. We certainly haven't seen that feeble gambit employed before in the defense of "real" socialism. Oh, wait...

Run along, junior.

Shlomart Ben Yisrael · Tue Sep 15, 2015 1:18 am

Dr_Phibes wrote: It's important to know Orwell's background to know that he wasn't a socialist. He might have thought he was for a short period of time, but he soon discovered that he didn't have the bottle for it and didn't understand it. There are socialist warnings in the book from an early, failed militant hippy, not from a socialist.

Oh, come on...

He was a comrade...but you're painting him as a Pussy Riot, gonzo activist...

Dr_Phibes · Post by **Dr_Phibes** » Tue Sep 15, 2015 1:24 am

No fallacy. Middle-class wannabe Rambo played soldier, got shot in the neck and discovered the real thing wasn't much fun. Ratted out his friends and went on to attack real, existing socialism for the rest of his days using allegory. He was not a socialist and said nothing concrete to refute. I'm simply doing what he did.

mvscal · Post by **mvscal** » Tue Sep 15, 2015 1:21 pm

And what, exactly, have you done in service to "the real thing" other than squirt off in your Che Guevara jammies?

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Tue Sep 15, 2015 2:11 pm

Jay in Phoenix wrote:Wolfman kind of hit a solid point here, as the "Animal Farm" analogy is pretty right on.

Great book by Orwell and a lesson through analogy, that seems to have been forgotten, or ignored, over the years.

Especially in this country and this administration and the drones who buy into what they're selling.

I'm not shocked that Wolfie doesn't get Animal Farm. I am surprised you missed the point. Animal Farm is no more a critique of the Democratic Socialism than it is a an expose of 1980's WWF Superstars. Now had you said Stalinism, you would have been spot on.

Left Seater · Post by **Left Seater** » Tue Sep 15, 2015 4:15 pm

Shlomart Ben Yisrael wrote:
If you equate organised labour and free education with Stalinism, you have a screw loose.

How is that organized labor working out for the longshoremen in Portland? We demand X, Y and Z. Since we aren't getting it we will slow down or not work. Wait, uhhh...what do you mean no more ships are coming to Portland...ummm...we are ready to work now. We have bills and mortgages and need food. Wait, you are really serious that we no longer have jobs. Ohh crap.