Man Who Shot UBL

[buckeye_in_sc]

anyone watch part 1? Part 2 tonight...on Fox News...this is the guy (allegedly who was the Shooter in the Esquire article)...

interesting in a couple of ways:

What he talked about last night was nothing earth shattering - most reports already had a lot of that detail
Tonight I wonder if he'll get into other details.

Thing that I am reconciling...his story v Bissonette's story (Author of No Easy Day)...so many differences on the actual shooting, who was where, etc.

Discuss...

or not

[Wolfman]

It was the guy on the right, right?

[smackaholic]

How come dude is talking?

I thought they were never to go public. Does he have an ax to grind?

I suspect he's doing it for a pay day. Good for him. He earned it.

[BSmack]

It was the guy on the right, right?

Print the legend.

[BarFlie]

Putting himself in the spotlight like that makes me think he has some survivor guilt issues and hopes some islamic nutjob would blow him away. Dude was a sniper and probably had plenty of kills already and should have kept his mouth shut. He's playing it like he won the lotto. The clock is ticking and he's in a hurry.

[Atomic Punk]

None of the SEALs I know would ever talk about operations unless it is to close and trusted friends well after things went down. Even then, they wouldn't give details. There are a few with big mouths like Team 6 founder Dick Marcinco that want to brag and get a pay day.

That being said, what is the ethnic population near or around Butte, Montana? He's a home town hero and I'm guessing those that wear pointy white hoods and/or the paranoid Derron types have his and his family's backs. Maybe it is his call out to bring on the domestic terrorists for target shooting to appease his inner sniper instincts.

[poptart]

paranoid Derron types

[smackaholic]

another possibility is he figures he's already been made and putting himself out in the spotlight will result in the government being forced to provide him the security he deserves.

[BSmack]

paranoid Derron types

I had to read part of Kaczynski's manifesto in an Ethics in Technology class I took. As an interesting piece of prose it bombed.

[Shlomart Ben Yisrael]

The DoD wants to push a story they've carefully scripted.

Stevie SEAL ain't sayin' shit on his own volition unless he's looking to guard penguin shit in Antarctica for the next 20 years, or be found dead with two bullets to the back of the head and a suicide not tucked in his pocket.

Don't be duped, folks.

[Shlomart Ben Yisrael]

Okay, I take it back.
You dopes will believe anything.

[mvscal]

The DoD wants to push a story they've carefully scripted.

Stevie SEAL ain't sayin' shit on his own volition unless he's looking to guard penguin shit in Antarctica for the next 20 years,

He's not in the Navy anymore, dumbass. He didn't put 20 years in so he doesn't get a pension. I'd say he needs the scratch.

[Shlomart Ben Yisrael]

The DoD wants to push a story they've carefully scripted.

Stevie SEAL ain't sayin' shit on his own volition unless he's looking to guard penguin shit in Antarctica for the next 20 years,

He's not in the Navy anymore, dumbass. He didn't put 20 years in so he doesn't get a pension. I'd say he needs the scratch.

Sorry for pulling back the curtain on your fairy tale.

[smackaholic]

marty, Stick to comedy.

You are about as good at military analysis as AP is at career navigation.

As mvs said, he got out short of finishing a career. His career options include going back into that shithole as a mercinary or talking about what he already did. He prolly figures he's pushed his luck far enough on the former and the latter pays way better.

scrote,

EAD. He damn sure does deserve it. The others you mention deserve it too.

My personal opinion is that spec forces dudes who do any of that shit should be allowed to retire immediately afterwards at 30 year O-6 pension benefits. Those fukkers went through hell in training and put their asses on the line. They "wrote a blank check with their lives", a bunch of hyperbole often assigned to fukkers like myself who served in very safe positions, but in their case, it wasn't hyperbole.

[Derron]

None of the SEALs I know would ever talk about operations unless it is to close and trusted friends well after things went down. Even then, they wouldn't give details. There are a few with big mouths like Team 6 founder Dick Marcinco that want to brag and get a pay day.

That being said, what is the ethnic population near or around Butte, Montana? He's a home town hero and I'm guessing those that wear pointy white hoods and/or the paranoid Derron types have his and his family's backs. Maybe it is his call out to bring on the domestic terrorists for target shooting to appease his inner sniper instincts.

Fucking a right we got his back in our woods. Got anybody's back who did what these guys did. That being said, I know more than 1 person who was involved in some black ops and offensive work like this, and while I have had real general conversations with them about one time each, and they say what they feel like they to a trusted person, most of them have no desire to run their fucking pie holes about what they did and where they did it, in such a public fashion. If you fucked somebody's shit up, keeping that close is pretty key to long term survival.

And as far as dudes need for scratch, if these guys cannot muster out and roll themselves into an immediate 100K job in about 3 days, then they really fucked up somewhere.

You and poptard make some interesting analogies. None of them make a bit of fucking sense though.

[Derron]

paranoid Derron types

Sure. Comparing a prepared patriot to a bat shit crazy murderer makes perfect sense. Fuck you.

[mvscal]

And as far as dudes need for scratch, if these guys cannot muster out and roll themselves into an immediate 100K job in about 3 days, then they really fucked up somewhere.

And how many of those six figure jobs don't involve violent death? You can only roll the dice so many times before you crap out. Maybe he doesn't dig the prospect of being abandoned on the roof of a "diplomatic annex" in some arab infested shithole.

[Atomic Punk]

You and poptard make some interesting analogies. None of them make a bit of fucking sense though.

To you? Of course they didn't. No surprise there.

[Screw_Michigan]

Haven't two different guys come out and claimed to kill Bin Laden? One of them has been debunked, allegedly.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2 ... s-say.html

On Tuesday, Fox News will air a highly-anticipated documentary about a former Navy SEAL named Robert O’Neill, who claims to be the man who fired the shot that killed Osama bin Laden. Several of O’Neill’s former brothers-in-arms are coming forward to say his story is way, way off.

In interviews with The Daily Beast, former special operations officials, as well as other sources who are familiar with the events of the 2011 raid on bin Laden’s compound in Abbottabad, Pakistan, accused O’Neill of misstating key facts and wrongly taking sole credit for killing the world’s then-most wanted man.

At issue is who fired the shot—or shots—that hit bin Laden in the head, splitting open his skull and almost certainly ending his life. O’Neill insists that he was the shooter. But others—including a fellow SEAL who was standing within feet of O’Neill when the final encounter with bin Laden went down—say another, still-unidentified man likely fired the round that caused a lethal head wound.

[Bucmonkey]

And as far as dudes need for scratch, if these guys cannot muster out and roll themselves into an immediate 100K job in about 3 days, then they really fucked up somewhere.

And how many of those six figure jobs don't involve violent death? You can only roll the dice so many times before you crap out. Maybe he doesn't dig the prospect of being abandoned on the roof of a "diplomatic annex" in some arab infested shithole.

^^
Next door neighbor is ex-special forces, one of the first in Afghanistan after 9/11, was present when Saddam was captured (saw the pics from that night so save the bullshit). After he left the service he went into the private sector providing various security services for oil companies. As MV said he has told me many crazy ass stories of close calls. 2 months ago was one close call too many and he pulled the plug to retire.

[Goober McTuber]

paranoid Derron types

Sure. Comparing a prepared patriot to a bat shit crazy murderer makes perfect sense. Fuck you.

How is Ted Kaczynski a patriot?

[Shlomart Ben Yisrael]

How is Ted Kaczynski a patriot?

~zing~

[LTS TRN 2]

And how come no one is pointing out that Bin Ladin was in fact never charged with anything connected to 9/11? Never an indictment or formal charge at all. And why? Well, because as FBI director Mueller admitted, there was no evidence at all. The so-called "confession tape" was a total fake--and has not been cited by anyone since a very brief initial roll-out back in '02. And so no question of due process or, you know, presenting evidence. No, just murder him and dump him in the ocean, case closed. Except for the multi-million dollar book deals and asinine movies that would make George Orwell blush. Sure, we got him!!

[Dr_Phibes]

Or the fact that Bin Laden's family testified as a whole to Pakistani authorities that he was marched outside and executed. And shortly after the 'raid', everyone in the neighbourhood said the streets around the household were swarming with Pakistani military who told them all to go back inside their homes when the shooting was gone.

It's all a big pile of horseshit.

[LTS TRN 2]

No, Phibes, the Bin Laden family was not in the loop and did not lodge any such protest. You are just being a silly little bitch. And while you're right in calling the whole "we got him!" celebration horseshit, you shouldn't be a silly ass and say that Bigfoot did it, or whatever distracting nonsense you're poodling about.

[Dr_Phibes]

No, Phibes, the Bin Laden family was not in the loop and did not lodge any such protest.

They were actually in the house, corralled and dragged out into the yard with Bin Laden. They gave this account to the Pakistani authorities and it was published in Pakistani media.

No doubt you were there flying the helicopter when all this went on

The best time to get your impression of a situation is as it's happening or shortly thereafter, the news coming out on wires is raw, uncensored, no-one's had time to create a narrative or spin it. The international and Pakistani press in the first 24 hours after the raid was telling.

[LTS TRN 2]

Oh, I see, when you refer to "the whole bin Laden family" you mean his hide-out harem? Not the venerable Saudi fuckstain contingent flown out as the New Pearl Harbor unfolded? My bad, you're right.

[Carson]

UBL was killed to get Obama reelected.

Period.

EOS

[LTS TRN 2]

But it's not the end of the story if Bin laden was totally framed. Right, Carson? Because this means a much larger story is being passed off every day, waxing in false heroism, demanding false justice, billowing military spending beyond all measure. It's just the beginning.

wait for it....


Wakey wake

(and fuck you)