Can a homosexual be a Christian?

[poptart]

Cliff Notes Answer: Of course


For purpose of my writing here, I define homosexual as -----> a person who is engaging in homosexual activity.


Maybe nobody can be a Christian.
Are you on this list?

1 Corinthians 6:9-10
Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.

But it goes on...

v.11 - And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.


When a person confesses his sinful state, puts his faith in the blood sacrifice of Jesus Christ, he is born again and is a Christian.
He is no longer viewed by God as any of the above (v.9,10).
He is clean in God's sight - and he is saved.
FOREVER.
ETERNALLY SECURE.
PERIOD.
Even the person who goes on to engage in homosexual activity.

1 Peter 1:23
Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.

Matthew 28:20 (Jesus speaking to the believers)
I am with you always, even unto the end of the world.


Should a Christian (or anyone?) go on and engage in homosexual activity?
Of course not.
It is not right, it is not healthy, and it is sinful.
Many things are sinful, not right, and should not be done.
It doesn't mean you lose your salvation.
Some things are tough nuts to crack -- "imprinted" sexual activity, being one.
These things don't tend to go away immediately.

Homosexuality is not something God established or intended for people.
Genesis 2:22-24

It was only after the fall of Genesis 3 that all manner of corruption overtook us.
People have no choice but to be corrupt, as they are offspring of -----> corruption.
Same sex action is among the corruption.
Homosexuality happens to be a symptom of a person who has turned his heart far away from God.
Romans 1:18-32.

[Shlomart Ben Yisrael]

Genesis

[Jay in Phoenix]

poptart, not that I GARA about what Goober does on the beach but there is nothing in this quote, "1 Corinthians 6:9-10
Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God."

..that has anything to do with poofs. It does say effeminate, but that doesn't translate to fag.

I know, it's just one quote among many, but if you read that statement verbatim, you could say it pretty much covers everyone who sins, no matter what their personal proclivity. You might want to expound and expand on the more positive aspects of Biblical verse and stop micro-managing the minutiae.

I doubt that God cares one whit about this stuff. Better to be a good person, a good soul and be kind to others and be charitable and loving. Also repentant. That's the right path. This other stuff is white noise.

[poptart]

I'm not sure I understand your post, Jay.


I posted that if you read 1 Corinthians 6:9-10, it looks like nobody can inherit the Kingdom of God. Nobody is righteous.

Maybe nobody can be a Christian.
Are you on this list?

But I said that if you go on and read v.11, it shows that people can inherit God's Kingdom if they are washed by the blood of Jesus Christ.



effeminate, abusers of themselves with mankind -- are homosexuals.

Strong's Concordance
arsenokoites: a male engaging in same-gender sexual activity
Original Word: ἀρσενοκοίτης, ου, ὁ
Part of Speech: Noun, Masculine
Transliteration: arsenokoites
Phonetic Spelling: (ar-sen-ok-oy'-tace)
Short Definition: a male engaging in same-gender sexual activity
Definition: a male engaging in same-gender sexual activity; a sodomite, pederast.

http://biblehub.com/greek/733.htm

[poptart]

Meanwhile, pop, I urge you to read your Bible more, and pay close attention to the two great commandments that Jesus explained upon being questioned by the lawyer.

I don't know why you imagine I disagree with the Words of Jesus there.


Matthew 22:36-40
Master, which is the great commandment in the law?
Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
This is the first and great commandment.
And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.


In every place homosexuality is spoken of in the Bible, it is shown in a poor (extremely poor) light.
It is shown repeatedly that God has great disdain for it and calls it an abomination.
And He established marriage for us -- Genesis 2:22-24.

Homosexual "marriage" is the creation of a perverted man's mind.
Looking at God's Word, anyone can see that two men "marrying" would only be something they would do if they are ignorant of, or completely in rejection of, God's Word.


If two sodomites would go so far as to claim that their marriage is ordained by God, it is very safe to say that they are ignoring His Word - and it would be quite a tough sell to make the claim that they are loving God with all their heart, soul and mind.

[Goober McTuber]

Looks like Gay in Phoenix is still pissed about being outed.

[Jay in Phoenix]

Looks like Gobbles McTubesteak has still got me buzzing about his old, unstable dome.

Stop obsessing freak.

[Goober McTuber]

Looks like Gobbles McTubesteak has still got me buzzing about his old, unstable dome.

Who mentioned whom first in this thread? Idiot.

[Jay in Phoenix]

Yes? And who is the moron posting non-stop bullshit with an out of context sig that is just dripping with sarcasm, yet added like it were a compliment.

Fuck off simpleton.

[Goober McTuber]

Good God, that's what's got your knickers all twisted? In that case, I'll leave it up a little longer.

[Jay in Phoenix]

Not at all Goober, just pointing out the very obvious nature of your idiocy.

But please, carry on with your ranting, babbling and drooling. It is amusing in a pathetic sort of way.

[Goober McTuber]

So out of the blue, you mention my name in this thread, then double down on your stupidity by suggesting that you're "in my dome", and you want to talk about idiocy?

[Jay in Phoenix]

Out of the blue? Are you that fucking dense?

Goober, you've been on my back for weeks now, if not months. And for what? A dumb joke about Goober Pyle?

You've taken shots at me in threads I didn't even appear in, and you have the shriveled up old-man balls to say this is out of the blue?

Check in the mirror once in a while, take a long look at the pathetic cretin starting back at you and then flail away with your baseless accusations.

In the meantime limp, old warrior, here's a hit with you in mind.

[Goober McTuber]

On your back? In your sickly perverted dreams, sinner.

[Jay in Phoenix]

So now you're degenerating into not even making sense.

I think we're done now.

Thanks for playing.

[Goober McTuber]

You really are that stupid.

[Jay in Phoenix]

No Goober, you really didn't make any sense. Go ahead and re-read your knuckle scrapings and try to see where the line, "On your back? In your sickly perverted dreams, sinner." had any relation to anything else said in our exchange?

I mean, in other than you own faggot dreams and fantasies, how did that mean anything?

Stupid is as stupid does Forrest Goob, and you're certainly attaining new lows.

Congrats.

[Goober McTuber]

No Goober, you really didn't make any sense. Go ahead and re-read your knuckle scrapings and try to see where the line, "On your back? In your sickly perverted dreams, sinner." had any relation to anything else said in our exchange?

I mean, in other than you own faggot dreams and fantasies

Kansas City, Kansas City, here I come....

[War Wagon]

KC is certainly in your dome.

Move over Dins, make room on the couch.

[Goober McTuber]

Out of the blue? Are you that fucking dense?

Goober, you've been on my back for weeks now, if not months. And for what? A dumb joke about Goober Pyle?

You've taken shots at me in threads I didn't even appear in, and you have the shriveled up old-man balls to say this is out of the blue?

BTW, please feel free to link me up to all of these threads where you've been blind-sided, Nancy.

[Goober McTuber]

KC is certainly in your dome.

KC has become an internet meme, you fucking moron.

Props for your not insignificant contribution to the cause.

[Jay in Phoenix]

BTW, please feel free to link me up to all of these threads where you've been blind-sided, Nancy.

search.php?author_id=278&sr=posts

There you go Gobbles. Don't choke on it.

[Goober McTuber]

BTW, please feel free to link me up to all of these threads where you've been blind-sided, Nancy.

search.php?author_id=278&sr=posts

There you go Gobbles. Don't choke on it.

In other words, you've got nothing but a persecution complex.

[Jay in Phoenix]

No dum-dum, I was just giving you a taste of your own medicine. How many times have you pulled that "link the user posts" gag?

Goober, unless you post reeling drunk and have completely blotted your short and long term memory into pudding, you know damn good and well you've done the blind-siding crap.

Be a man and own up to your own trolling shenanigans. By the way, Honksville called, they don't want any part of you back.

[Goober McTuber]

So you still got nothing. No surprise there. Fell free to add another mindless retort now, you dirty little last word whore.

[Jay in Phoenix]

Ok that was actually pretty funny Goober. Nice. :grin:

I've got plenty here for you, but let's face it, this is pretty played out.

Take you waxed ball(s) and crown, you've earned it.

[Goober McTuber]

Feel free to add another mindless retort now, you dirty little last word whore.

Ok that was actually pretty funny Goober. Nice. :grin:

I've got plenty here for you, but let's face it, this is pretty played out.

Take you waxed ball(s) and crown, you've earned it.

[MgoBlue-LightSpecial]

So God sends all of the hot lipstick lesbians straight to Hell? Dude must be a homo.