U.S.AND iRAN REACH HISTORIC NUCLEAR DEAL

The State · Post by **The State** » Tue Jul 14, 2015 10:46 am

bwhahahahhahahahaha !!!

Looks like we're going to have to depend on the "Bad Boys" again...

smackaholic · Post by **smackaholic** » Tue Jul 14, 2015 11:05 am

Peace in our time.

yay!!!

Rooster · Post by **Rooster** » Tue Jul 14, 2015 11:11 am

Historically bad that is. Even when placed side-by-side with Neville Chamberlain Obama comes out looking worse. Now the mullahs will have their Obamanukes and our children will pay the cost in fifteen years, if not earlier.

Rooster · Post by **Rooster** » Tue Jul 14, 2015 11:18 am

Last Friday when Kerry said, "that there was less than a 50/50 chance of the deal going through," I thought to myself, "Oh shit. They shook hands on a deal. I wonder just how bad this is going to be?" You knew there was no way Obama and Kerry were going to walk away from the table since both want to cement a lasting legacy-- whatever that means. Obama's singular talent lies in snatching defeat from the jaws of victory as seen in Iraq, Afghanistan, Cuba, and now Iran. He is the very personification of the anti-King Midas. Everything he touches turns into shit.

The State · Post by **The State** » Tue Jul 14, 2015 11:19 am

Rooster wrote:Historically bad that is. Even when placed side-by-side with Neville Chamberlain Obama comes out looking worse. Now the mullahs will have their Obamanukes and our children will pay the cost in fifteen years, if not earlier.

Huh ???

Do you have a fucking brain cell that works ?

Wolfman · Post by **Wolfman** » Tue Jul 14, 2015 11:57 am

The deal should have been "we'll pay you and you disarm", but it looks like "we'll pay you and go ahead and nuke up." That's a deal? BTW-did you know that John Kerry served in Viet Nam?

The State · Post by **The State** » Tue Jul 14, 2015 12:08 pm

Wolfman wrote:The deal should have been "we'll pay you and you disarm", but it looks like "we'll pay you and go ahead and nuke up." That's a deal? BTW-did you know that John Kerry served in Viet Nam?

Ok, you lost me there... grandpa.

What the hell does that have to do with Israel wiping iRAN off the face of the map if they even think of sending a nuke in Israel's direction ?

Screw_Michigan · Post by **Screw_Michigan** » Tue Jul 14, 2015 12:14 pm

The State wrote:
Rooster wrote:Historically bad that is. Even when placed side-by-side with Neville Chamberlain Obama comes out looking worse. Now the mullahs will have their Obamanukes and our children will pay the cost in fifteen years, if not earlier.

Huh ???

Do you have a fucking brain cell that works ?

No

Screw_Michigan · Post by **Screw_Michigan** » Tue Jul 14, 2015 12:15 pm

Milton, if you're going to post photos of the Israeli military, can you at least post the hot chicks that serve? Thanks.

The State · Post by **The State** » Tue Jul 14, 2015 12:20 pm

Screw_Michigan wrote:Milton, if you're going to post photos of the Israeli military, can you at least post the hot chicks that serve? Thanks.

Sperm slurper... do I look like a pimp ?

smackaholic · Post by **smackaholic** » Tue Jul 14, 2015 12:23 pm

The State wrote:
Wolfman wrote:The deal should have been "we'll pay you and you disarm", but it looks like "we'll pay you and go ahead and nuke up." That's a deal? BTW-did you know that John Kerry served in Viet Nam?

Ok, you lost me there... grandpa.

What the hell does that have to do with Israel wiping iRAN off the face of the map if they even think of sending a nuke in Israel's direction ?

If you had access to a TV, you may have seen the monkey's speech this morning where he mentioned Lt. errrrrr I mean Secretary John Kerry. And he once again reminded us of his war hero status.

The State · Post by **The State** » Tue Jul 14, 2015 12:26 pm

smackaholic wrote:
The State wrote:
Wolfman wrote:The deal should have been "we'll pay you and you disarm", but it looks like "we'll pay you and go ahead and nuke up." That's a deal? BTW-did you know that John Kerry served in Viet Nam?

Ok, you lost me there... grandpa.

What the hell does that have to do with Israel wiping iRAN off the face of the map if they even think of sending a nuke in Israel's direction ?
If you had access to a TV, you may have seen the monkey's speech this morning where he mentioned Lt. errrrrr I mean Secretary John Kerry. And he once again reminded us of his war hero status.

Like I said...

By the way... do you "parrots" ever have a thought of your own ???

smackaholic · Post by **smackaholic** » Tue Jul 14, 2015 12:28 pm

So.....you did see it, but your just a fukking moron?

The State · Post by **The State** » Tue Jul 14, 2015 12:38 pm

smackaholic wrote:So.....you did see it, but your just a fukking moron?

What the fuck are you babbling about ???

I don't watch "TV" for my information.

Only a dipshit would make a decision based on a commercial enterprise(CNN, FOX NEWS, etc.) for news.

Are you a fucking retard ???

Rooster · Post by **Rooster** » Tue Jul 14, 2015 7:46 pm

I don't think that Israel can be the go-to guy for taking down Iran's nuclear (future) capabilities. Why? Because the way the five world powers is brokering this agreement it means that Israel would isolate itself even further from the rest of the world by unilaterally taking on Iran. Europe is chomping at the bit to sell goods to Iran, Russia and China are fidgeting to get busy selling weapons to Iran, and Obama doesn't care about anything beyond his "legacy." Everybody has a stake in getting a piece of the pie and taking out Iran in whole or in part would simply justify the now unjustifiable claim that Israel is a rogue state and the aggressor against the Palestinians. This administration has effectively isolated Israel and left them with no good options.

This is not to say that if and when their back is against the wall that they won't take action unilaterally, but while everybody else is cheering for this fiasco of a deal, Israel is in check.

And State? Stop using all caps when typing the subject line. It makes you look like you think the mullahs are an Apple device.

Dr_Phibes · Post by **Dr_Phibes** » Tue Jul 14, 2015 11:50 pm

Never occured to me to think of Jews as the second coming of the samurai. As warrior races go, they're sort of confined to funny looking people who work cash registers and perhaps the film industry. If I were Iranian I'd be laughing it up at the tough guy routine.

Wolfman · Post by **Wolfman** » Wed Jul 15, 2015 12:09 am

As warrior races go, they're sort of confined to funny looking people who work cash registers and perhaps the film industry.
I believe there are at least a handful of historical events that should make you rethink what you have posted.

Shlomart Ben Yisrael · Wed Jul 15, 2015 12:27 am

My people will lay down a wholesale ass-whoopin'...and trust me, there will be NO "buy-one-get-one-free" deal for the Iranians.

Go back to sleep America, Israel is on watch. Nighty-night. Don't let the bedbugs bite.

Dr_Phibes · Post by **Dr_Phibes** » Wed Jul 15, 2015 1:14 am

Wolfman wrote: I believe there are at least a handful of historical events that should make you rethink what you have posted.

Right, I've done that. Still come up with nothing :? Their vicious lawsuits against the Germans notwithstanding.

Mikey · Post by **Mikey** » Wed Jul 15, 2015 4:06 am

Jsc810 wrote:$2/gal for gas.

Good job, Mr. President, and thank you.

If that happens, Republicans will refuse to buy it. Or they may force their local Arco station to accept a higher price.

mvscal · Post by **mvscal** » Wed Jul 15, 2015 1:09 pm

Jsc810 wrote:$2/gal for gas.

Good job, Mr. President, and thank you.

100% bullshit.

smackaholic · Post by **smackaholic** » Wed Jul 15, 2015 2:26 pm

Whomever wrote that article is an economic simpleton.

They admit that all along, Iran has been selling its oil to China and quite a few others. So, their ability to sell to the US means nothing. Their oil is already on the market.

As for price, what you see now is likely to be around awhile. OPEC ran it up to the point where our harder to get reserves became financially viable. OPEC really doesn't care for such competition and backed it down to 3 bucks/gallon, which put all those fukkers in North Dakota in the unemployment line. You will see it inch back up slowly as those fukkers figure out just what they can get away with before the US producers try to come back on line. Of course the US suppliers are a little gun shy now as they realize that those goatfukkers in the ME can open the spigot again, if needed.

Don't hold your breath for 2 dollah earl, corky.

Mikey · Post by **Mikey** » Wed Jul 15, 2015 2:39 pm

smackaholic wrote:Whomever wrote that article is an economic simpleton.

They admit that all along, Iran has been selling its oil to China and quite a few others. So, their ability to sell to the US means nothing. Their oil is already on the market.

As for price, what you see now is likely to be around awhile. OPEC ran it up to the point where our harder to get reserves became financially viable. OPEC really doesn't care for such competition and backed it down to 3 bucks/gallon, which put all those fukkers in North Dakota in the unemployment line. You will see it inch back up slowly as those fukkers figure out just what they can get away with before the US producers try to come back on line. Of course the US suppliers are a little gun shy now as they realize that those goatfukkers in the ME can open the spigot again, if needed.

Don't hold your breath for 2 dollah earl, corky.

2 dollar oil?

OPEC sets the price of gasoline?

Jeezuzaichkreist you may get 347% on civics but you'd better study up on:

1. economics
2. the difference between oil and gasoline

BTW...in most of the "South" gas is already below $2.50 and was below $2 as recently as January.

smackaholic · Post by **smackaholic** » Wed Jul 15, 2015 2:40 pm

OK. 2 dollah GAS then.

smackaholic · Post by **smackaholic** » Wed Jul 15, 2015 2:41 pm

are you implying that the price of gas is not pretty damn proportional to the price of oil?

Left Seater · Post by **Left Seater** » Wed Jul 15, 2015 2:45 pm

Agreed that the author JCS linked us up to is short bus worthy.

Two points that he kinda glossed over could drive prices down later, the increased production possibility once Iran gets access to tech. And the alleged surplus sitting and waiting to be sold.

Both could move the price down slightly, but not so far that we see sub $2 gas.

Goober McTuber · Post by **Goober McTuber** » Wed Jul 15, 2015 2:46 pm

Mikey wrote:
smackaholic wrote:Whomever wrote that article is an economic simpleton.

They admit that all along, Iran has been selling its oil to China and quite a few others. So, their ability to sell to the US means nothing. Their oil is already on the market.

As for price, what you see now is likely to be around awhile. OPEC ran it up to the point where our harder to get reserves became financially viable. OPEC really doesn't care for such competition and backed it down to 3 bucks/gallon, which put all those fukkers in North Dakota in the unemployment line. You will see it inch back up slowly as those fukkers figure out just what they can get away with before the US producers try to come back on line. Of course the US suppliers are a little gun shy now as they realize that those goatfukkers in the ME can open the spigot again, if needed.

Don't hold your breath for 2 dollah earl, corky.
2 dollar oil?

OPEC sets the price of gasoline?

Jeezuzaichkreist you may get 347% on civics but you'd better study up on:

1. economics
2. the difference between oil and gasoline

BTW...in most of the "South" gas is already below $2.50 and was below $2 as recently as January.

You really expect cogent commentary from suckaholic on any subject other than lawn care?

Mikey · Post by **Mikey** » Wed Jul 15, 2015 2:50 pm

smackaholic wrote:are you implying that the price of gas is not pretty damn proportional to the price of oil?

Correlated to a certain degree in the "long run", yes. Proportional, no.

Gas is a lot more dependent on local supply and demand, refining and storage capacity, and seasonality.

Mikey · Post by **Mikey** » Thu Jul 16, 2015 7:13 pm

I wonder what Saint Ronald, patron of all that is good and conservative, would have done in this situation.

Oh, that's right, he probably would have loaded a ship with a bunch of missiles and sent them straight to Iran. Nothing like really stabilizing the Middle East.

No doubt the current crop of pantie-wetting Republicans would be hailing him as the Great Peacemaker.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran%E2%8 ... tra_affair

mvscal · Post by **mvscal** » Thu Jul 16, 2015 10:10 pm

Mikey wrote:Oh, that's right, he probably would have loaded a ship with a bunch of missiles and sent them straight to Iran. Nothing like really stabilizing the Middle East.

It did. We played both sides against each other in the Iran-Iraq War ensuring a stalemate. That looks like a win for us to me.

This current deal is fucktardery of nearly incomprehensible magnitude. We just agreed to lift a $100 billion in economic sanctions and the arms embargo in exchange for...? Some promises not to do something for a few years? Then what? Another deal? Another round of sanctions that nobody will be willing to support after 15 years of gravytraining?

This is the great, awesome diplomatic masterstroke you want to hang your hat on?

Mikey · Post by **Mikey** » Thu Jul 16, 2015 10:57 pm

mvscal wrote:
Mikey wrote:Oh, that's right, he probably would have loaded a ship with a bunch of missiles and sent them straight to Iran. Nothing like really stabilizing the Middle East.
It did. We played both sides against each other in the Iran-Iraq War ensuring a stalemate. That looks like a win for us to me.

This current deal is fucktardery of nearly incomprehensible magnitude. We just agreed to lift a $100 billion in economic sanctions and the arms embargo in exchange for...? Some promises not to do something for a few years? Then what? Another deal? Another round of sanctions that nobody will be willing to support after 15 years of gravytraining?

This is the great, awesome diplomatic masterstroke you want to hang your hat on?

Bullshit.

"My purpose was... to send a signal that the United States was prepared to replace the animosity between [the U.S. and Iran] with a new relationship... At the same time we undertook this initiative, we made clear that Iran must oppose all forms of international terrorism as a condition of progress in our relationship. The most significant step which Iran could take, we indicated, would be to use its influence in Lebanon to secure the release of all hostages held there."

smackaholic · Post by **smackaholic** » Thu Jul 16, 2015 11:49 pm

So, the ~~check~~ hostages are in the mail then?

Major Garrett already called that imbecile out on the hostage thing. If he and Lurch had even 3 brain cells between them, he would have demanded the 4 they are holding directly and made them pony up a good number of them from Lebanon.

Do you honestly think that the 4 in Iran are worth 100 billion dollars to the Iranians?

Pull barry's cahk out of your mouth long enough to get a few deep breaths and get some oxygen flow to your brain and think about it for a moment.

We got Jack fukking shit. They get the sactions lifted. And they get about a month to shuffle shit around when we ask to make a house call.

And when that month is done and they tell us to fukk the fukk off, then what? We attack?

smackaholic · Post by **smackaholic** » Thu Jul 16, 2015 11:56 pm

And I really get a kick out of his comparison of this to agreements with the russkies over the years.

There is one teeny tiny difference.

The fukking russkies ALREADY HAD THE BOMB!!!!!!!

Does this fukking asshat have even the slightest idea about negotiating? Of course he doesn't. He's never done it once in his life.

Some fukking resume.

1961-2004- Absolutely nothing....oh, yeah, that's right, he was prez of a college club. His resume during that job? ??????????
2004-2008- do nothing junior senator
2008-present - emperor of the US.

We really do suck shit through a straw. Having the chinese take over is sounding better by the day.

Wolfman · Post by **Wolfman** » Fri Jul 17, 2015 12:03 am

Historic for those poor bastards in prison over there. Guess if they were Army deserters, they'd be home by now.

Mikey · Post by **Mikey** » Fri Jul 17, 2015 1:05 am

Like I said, Saint Ronnie could send a boatload of weapons to known terrorists and it's a "good idea" to you slackbrained fuckwits. If Obama did anything even close to that stupid you'd be calling for impeachment.

Wolfman · Post by **Wolfman** » Fri Jul 17, 2015 3:02 am

That was then---this is now. Are you down with what is happening ? Stop living in the past and wake up.

Mikey · Post by **Mikey** » Fri Jul 17, 2015 3:51 am

Wolfman wrote: Stop living in the past and wake up.

The irony is strong with this one.

Dr_Phibes · Post by **Dr_Phibes** » Fri Jul 17, 2015 4:50 am

mvscal wrote:
This current deal is fucktardery of nearly incomprehensible magnitude. We just agreed to lift a $100 billion in economic sanctions and the arms embargo in exchange for...? Some promises not to do something for a few years? Then what? Another deal? Another round of sanctions that nobody will be willing to support after 15 years of gravytraining?

This is the great, awesome diplomatic masterstroke you want to hang your hat on?

Considering Iran as a foe, only came out of neo-conservative paranoia over a decade ago renders it moot. There was never any threat to begin with, it's an abstraction

Or an 'existential threat'?

mvscal · Post by **mvscal** » Fri Jul 17, 2015 1:40 pm

Dr_Phibes wrote: Considering Iran as a foe, only came out of neo-conservative paranoia over a decade ago renders it moot.

Considerably more than a decade but thanks for checking in. You can toddle off now for a nap and don't forget your binky.

mvscal · Post by **mvscal** » Fri Jul 17, 2015 1:43 pm

Mikey wrote:Like I said, Saint Ronnie could send a boatload of weapons to known terrorists and it's a "good idea" to you slackbrained fuckwits.

Those weapons were TOW missiles which were used against Iraqi tanks and we did actually get some people back as well as accomplishing our regional policy objective of ensuring that neither Iraq nor Iran got the upper hand in their conflict.

If Obama did anything even close to that stupid you'd be calling for impeachment.

Obama's stupidity is going to result in Iran obtaining nuclear missiles and we got absolutely nothing in exchange for that.

Keep sucking his dick, though, you fucking idiot.