Trump.....Toast!

Wolfman · Post by **Wolfman** » Tue Jul 21, 2015 10:30 pm

No one quotes Ronald Reagan when he was senile. He didn't have much to say in those sad days while he was slowly dying. We do quote him when he was probably the best POTUS we'll ever know.

Diego in Seattle · Post by **Diego in Seattle** » Tue Jul 21, 2015 11:28 pm

Wolfman wrote:No one quotes Ronald Reagan when he was senile. He didn't have much to say in those sad days while he was slowly dying. We do quote him when he was probably the best POTUS we'll ever know.

July 28, 1988

http://www.inquisitr.com/1972726/ronald ... concludes/

poptart · Post by **poptart** » Tue Jul 21, 2015 11:34 pm

Reporter asks Trump which foot had the bone spur.

He looked caught off guard and sputtered, "I don't know. It's in the records. You'll look it up."

LMAO!

I like young men who don't have fake bone spurs.

smackaholic · Post by **smackaholic** » Tue Jul 21, 2015 11:50 pm

I've had a bone spur on my right heel the last few weeks. Wish the fukk it was fake. Motrin does a decent job on it, but, the first few minutes out of bed in the morning are teh suck.

Mic was right. It is a drag, getting old.

Wolfman · Post by **Wolfman** » Wed Jul 22, 2015 12:16 am

Hey Diego, thanks for posting that Reagan quote. Wasn't it great?
Re: Bernie Sanders
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/4 ... -socialism

Diego in Seattle · Post by **Diego in Seattle** » Wed Jul 22, 2015 12:48 am

Wolfman wrote:Hey Diego, thanks for posting that Reagan quote. Wasn't it great?
Re: Bernie Sanders
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/4 ... -socialism

Apparently your brain is just as addled as Reagan's was.

Reagan was suffering from alzheimers while he was still in office...including when he made that quote (if he actually was the one to originally say it).

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Wed Jul 22, 2015 1:56 am

When Bernie Sanders starts demanding Lebensraum you can call him a national socialist. When he proposes the elimination of an ethnic group, you can call him a Nazi. Nice to see the National Review is as credible as the average T1B dittohead.

War Wagon · Post by **War Wagon** » Wed Jul 22, 2015 2:32 am

Diego in Seattle wrote:
Reagan was suffering from alzheimers while he was still in office...including when he made that quote (if he actually was the one to originally say it).

So, pap smear, was it his quote or not?

I don't really care, just here to remind that you strengthen the argument for late term abortion.

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Wed Jul 22, 2015 3:40 am

KC Scott wrote:Why do you think everyone deserves health care and a free college education at the expense of the taxpayer?

As a matter of national security we owe it to ourselves to have healthy and well educated people. Should the services be free? Maybe not. But they should not cost so much that working people cannot afford them without going into debt.

Left Seater · Post by **Left Seater** » Wed Jul 22, 2015 12:27 pm

BSmack wrote:
KC Scott wrote:Why do you think everyone deserves health care and a free college education at the expense of the taxpayer?
As a matter of national security we owe it to ourselves to have healthy and well educated people. Should the services be free? Maybe not. But they should not cost so much that working people cannot afford them without going into debt.

First of all how do you define working? Libs love to bastardize that word.

Second, a college education can be obtained affordably already. People can spend the first two years at a community college, then finish at a local school where they can live at home.

Third, we have plenty of jobs in our economy that do not require a college education. In fact we should go the other direction. In HS we should have a college prep track and a vocational track. Kids that want nothing to do with college should be taught a trade such as welding or electrical or plumbing etc so that they are better placed to enter the workforce and earn a higher wage.

Goober McTuber · Post by **Goober McTuber** » Wed Jul 22, 2015 12:52 pm

Wolfman wrote:No one quotes Ronald Reagan when he was senile. He didn't have much to say in those sad days while he was slowly dying. We do quote him when he was probably the best POTUS we'll ever know.

mvscal · Post by **mvscal** » Wed Jul 22, 2015 1:12 pm

BSmack wrote: As a matter of national security we owe it to ourselves to have healthy and well educated people.

What a crock of shit. You are totally fucked up.

YOU owe it to YOURSELF to be healthy and well educated. I could give a fuck if you are or aren't. Your relative health and educational achievement mean jack shit to me.

Oh yes, and then there is the whole Constitution does not authorize the Federal government to raise money for those purposes thing. I guess that isn't much of an impediment these days when the Constitution is nothing more than asswipe for five shitstains in black robes.

Goober McTuber · Post by **Goober McTuber** » Wed Jul 22, 2015 5:31 pm

Papa Willie wrote:
Goober McTuber wrote:
Wolfman wrote:No one quotes Ronald Reagan when he was senile. He didn't have much to say in those sad days while he was slowly dying. We do quote him when he was probably the best POTUS we'll ever know.

Seriously - who was better?

You do understand that Wolfie and I were alive during the Lincoln administration?

Diego in Seattle · Post by **Diego in Seattle** » Wed Jul 22, 2015 6:06 pm

Goober McTuber wrote:You do understand that Wolfie and I were alive during the Lincoln administration?

Wasn't Wolfie in the Davis administration?

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Wed Jul 22, 2015 6:10 pm

Diego in Seattle wrote:
Goober McTuber wrote:You do understand that Wolfie and I were alive during the Lincoln administration?
Wasn't Wolfie in the Davis administration?

I think that would be the Bismark Administration.

mvscal · Post by **mvscal** » Wed Jul 22, 2015 6:17 pm

Jsc810 wrote:
Wolfman wrote:Re: Bernie Sanders
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/4 ... -socialism

Comparing a Jew whose family was killed in the Holocaust to a Nazi. Nice fucking job, NR.

But if Sanders wasn't gaining popularity then they wouldn't have bothered with the hit piece.

As Bernie Sanders rises, attacks from the right get ugly

Conservative Website Insinuates That Jewish Bernie Sanders Is A Nazi

Maybe you should read it instead of crying about it. You might actually gain an inkling of how stupid and fucked up you really are.

Sanders could quadruple his popularity and 99 out of 100 people would have no idea who he is.

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Wed Jul 22, 2015 6:31 pm

I read that article. It was written by a paste eating retard. Sanders is as much as Nazi as I am an LA Laker.

mvscal · Post by **mvscal** » Wed Jul 22, 2015 6:34 pm

If that was your takeaway, you didn't read it.

Goober McTuber · Post by **Goober McTuber** » Wed Jul 22, 2015 6:40 pm

Papa Willie wrote:
Goober McTuber wrote:
Wolfman wrote:No one quotes Ronald Reagan when he was senile. He didn't have much to say in those sad days while he was slowly dying. We do quote him when he was probably the best POTUS we'll ever know.

Seriously - who was better?

A number of scholars rate him behind Clinton, and the majority have him back of Kennedy and LBJ.

mvscal · Post by **mvscal** » Wed Jul 22, 2015 10:22 pm

Jsc810 wrote:Trump is just following the political lead of Lee Atwater:

You start out in 1954 by saying, “mvscal, mvscal, mvscal.” By 1968 you can't say “mvscal” — that hurts you. Backfires. So you say stuff like forced busing, states' rights and all that stuff. You're getting so abstract now [that] you're talking about cutting taxes, and all these things you're talking about are totally economic things and a byproduct of them is [that] blacks get hurt worse than whites. And subconsciously maybe that is part of it. I'm not saying that. But I'm saying that if it is getting that abstract, and that coded, that we are doing away with the racial problem one way or the other. You follow me — because obviously sitting around saying, “We want to cut this,” is much more abstract than even the busing thing, and a hell of a lot more abstract than “mvscal, mvscal.”

Or maybe you're just a fucking idiot. Food for thought.

poptart · Post by **poptart** » Sun Jul 26, 2015 8:37 am

July 25, 2015, 08:57 am
Poll: Trump doubles nearest competitor in 2016 GOP race

Businessman Donald Trump has surged to 28 percent support in an Economist/YouGov poll of the 2016
Republican presidential field — double his closest competitor.

Former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush checks in at second place with 14 percent support, followed by Wisconsin
Gov. Scott Walker at 13 percent.

The poll surveyed 1,000 respondents between July 18-20.

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/gop ... -2016-race

Donald J. Trump
‏@realDonaldTrump

Trump surges even after media apoplexy over bogus McCain comments.
People want straight talk. Diego wrong again - dummy!

smackaholic · Post by **smackaholic** » Sun Jul 26, 2015 12:17 pm

Bernie shares a lot with Hitler, actually.

Hitler was a loser, who's only success in life came when he got into politics as a socialist.

Bernie was a loser, who's only success in life came when he got into politics as a socialist.

Hitler went after other people's shit.

Bernie wants to go after other people's shit.

The fact that Bernie is a Jew is completely irrelevant. He is about as religious as Adolf was.

poptart · Post by **poptart** » Sun Jul 26, 2015 12:24 pm

Donald J. Trump
‏@realDonaldTrump

I've owned all of the best NY Jews. Old Bernie would be a piece
of cake. America wants a winner.

Atomic Punk · Post by **Atomic Punk** » Mon Jul 27, 2015 4:29 am

The reality being the established GOP is extremely weak. Both sides suck. You want Hillary? Why? What gives you that "Hope and Change" in her? Jeb Bush? Why? Big money runs this country and they don't care about the people that elect them.

So... why not give Trump a chance? (Big money also, but what special interest groups run him?)

mvscal · Post by **mvscal** » Mon Jul 27, 2015 2:03 pm

Jsc810 wrote:
Atomic Punk wrote:So... why not give Trump a chance?

Among the many reasons is the fact that he has not demonstrated his abilities in government, he has never held public office before. Let him serve as Governor or Senator, or even a Congressman, and let's see how he performs.

Fuck off, moron. You won't hesitate to vote for Shillary and we have already seen how she performs. You are a fucked up, hypocritical sack of shit with ZERO credibility.

mvscal · Post by **mvscal** » Mon Jul 27, 2015 2:29 pm

Nice logical fallacy, you spurt-pelted fucktard.

Left Seater · Post by **Left Seater** » Mon Jul 27, 2015 3:54 pm

Jsc810 wrote:
Atomic Punk wrote:So... why not give Trump a chance?

Among the many reasons is the fact that he has not demonstrated his abilities in government, he has never held public office before. Let him serve as Governor or Senator, or even a Congressman, and let's see how he performs.

Merely because he has had some success as a businessman and a reality tv star does not qualify him to be the leader of the free world. Success in one area does not mean he will be successful in a different area; would you want him to be hired as the head football coach of your favorite team, or would you rather see him first prove his football coaching abilities as an assistant coach or head coach at a lower level?

I would far rather see a successful business man in the Oval Office with no public official experience than the lifelong career politician who has never had a job outside of the government, ie Obama.

We have seen the utter failure someone who has never had a real job did, why not try a business man? He couldn't possibly do a worse job than the current office holder.

Left Seater · Post by **Left Seater** » Mon Jul 27, 2015 8:27 pm

Imagine the election if we had:

Hillary - Dem
Pick one - GOP
Sanders - Socialist
Trump - Independent

Goober McTuber · Post by **Goober McTuber** » Mon Jul 27, 2015 8:37 pm

This is much more likely.

Hillary - Dem
Pick one - GOP
~~Sanders - Socialist~~
Trump - Independent

Imagine that.

Mikey · Post by **Mikey** » Mon Jul 27, 2015 9:00 pm

Trump won't last in the GOP past the first couple of primaries, if that long.

He'll never run as an independent.

smackaholic · Post by **smackaholic** » Mon Jul 27, 2015 11:26 pm

Maybe someday we will have run off elections as many countries do. Problem is, that would be the end of the republicrat stranglehold. So it likely won't happen.

War Wagon · Post by **War Wagon** » Tue Jul 28, 2015 1:17 am

Mikey wrote:Trump won't last in the GOP past the first couple of primaries, if that long.

Yep, he'll crash and burn way before any actual votes are counted. Pretty much my point on page one.

He'll never run as an independent.

I hope you're right and he'll crawl back into billionaires corner, not a bad place to be if you can afford the rent.

But I fear he's such an attention whore with so much of an over inflated ego, he'll hang around like a bad case of diaper rash.

Atomic Punk · Post by **Atomic Punk** » Tue Jul 28, 2015 3:01 am

Jsc810 wrote:
Atomic Punk wrote:So... why not give Trump a chance?

Among the many reasons is the fact that he has not demonstrated his abilities in government, he has never held public office before. Let him serve as Governor or Senator, or even a Congressman, and let's see how he performs.

You don't ever listen to him do you? How does a career politician know how to run the biggest corporation/government on the planet? All they have are donors and lobbyists giving them money to do what they want the government to pay them back.

Sure, he isn't polished in any way for the sensitive pussies looking to be offended. However, he is talking about making real changes that will and have upset the free loaders. Let me ask you this, do you think this current piece of shit in charge of this country has been a good thing for us?

Goober McTuber · Post by **Goober McTuber** » Tue Jul 28, 2015 3:25 pm

War Wagon wrote:
Mikey wrote:Trump won't last in the GOP past the first couple of primaries, if that long.
Yep, he'll crash and burn way before any actual votes are counted. Pretty much my point on page one.

He'll never run as an independent.
I hope you're right and he'll crawl back into billionaires corner, not a bad place to be if you can afford the rent.

But I fear he's such an attention whore with so much of an over inflated ego, he'll hang around like a bad case of diaper rash.

I could see him pulling a Ross Perot. With similar results.

That giant sucking sound you hear is politics as per usualm.

Goober McTuber · Post by **Goober McTuber** » Tue Jul 28, 2015 8:03 pm

It is no easy task to chair a political party that does not hold the presidency. Even when the chair of the national committee of one of the two major parties navigates the partisans into position to elect a president — as DNC Chair Paul Butler did in the turbulent 1950s, RNC Chair Ray Bliss did after the 1964 defeat of Barry Goldwater, and DNC Chair Howard Dean did with his 50-state strategy — credit invariably goes to the winning candidate.

But people who understand politics know that party chairs are the ones who must keep things together in order for presidential nominees to win November elections.

Reince Priebus understands politics.

His understanding has served him well. The former Republican Party of Wisconsin chair has since 2011 kept billionaires from New York and evangelicals from rural Iowa in the same tent, maintaining the confidence of the party’s contentious candidates and constituencies. It’s possible to disagree with Priebus on most every issue, as I do, and still recognize that he is an able tactician who has done much to shape his party up for the 2016 presidential election.

Now, however, he faces a disruption named Donald Trump.

Priebus set up a debate schedule that was designed to highlight the strengths of GOP candidates and to avoid the pitfalls of 2012, when a long debate schedule and candidates with little to lose tripped up Mitt Romney. Now, however, Priebus faces the prospect of debates focused almost entirely on a candidate who could make the worst of the 2012 debates look like gatherings of the Oxford Union Society.

Trump is leading in the polls that will decide which candidates get prime debate slots — and which are excluded from the main event. The billionaire will have a place in the first debate that Priebus has arranged for top-tier candidates. It's set for Aug. 6. And Trump is likely to keep his poll numbers high enough to gain a place in the debates to follow.

That’s an immediate problem for the other candidates, who must struggle to make themselves heard over what former Texas Gov. Rick Perry refers to as Trump’s “barking carnival act.”

Eventually, most Republican voters will reject the wealthiest of their contenders. It's hard to imagine Trump as the GOP nominee for president.

But that does not mean he will cease to be a problem for Priebus.

Trump is playing a game of chicken with the Republican Party. And Priebus finds himself in the unenviable position of having to try to prevent a serious crackup.

Trump’s crude positioning on issues such as immigration policy is a challenge. Trump is wrong in his thinking and wrong in his approach. He is also highlighting lines of division within the party and the broader electorate that are problematic for the GOP.

Trump’s barbed attacks on his fellow Republicans are a challenge. As the debates approach, the best some of the lesser-known contenders can hope for could be a headline-grabbing dust-up with Trump. And leading contenders such as Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker — Trump's target over the weekend — know that while Trump might never be the Republican nominee, he might well elbow others out of contention.

Trump's ability to turn the best-laid plans for orderly debates into chaos is surely a challenge. Orderly debates would have been dull, but that was the point.

Relating to and extending from all of those challenges is the really big problem for Priebus, and that is Trump’s none-too-subtle hinting that he might mount an independent or third-party campaign in November 2016. “I’ll have to see how I’m being treated by the Republicans,” Trump said in response to a question last week from The Hill about a third-party run. “Absolutely, if they’re not fair, that would be a factor.”

Were the tycoon to exit the GOP ranks and take even a portion of the party faithful with him, Priebus would find himself facing a nightmare scenario.

America is a politically divided country. No Republican presidential nominee has won more than 51 percent of the vote since George H.W. Bush in 1988. If measurable numbers of the Republicans (and Republican-leaning independents) who now say they support Trump were to follow him out of the party, that could easily tip the political balance against the GOP in 2016.

Over the past 50 years, four presidents have been elected with a minority of the votes cast in an election where an independent or third-party candidate was a factor: Richard Nixon in 1968, Bill Clinton in 1992 and 1996, and George Bush in 2000 — and Jimmy Carter only got to 50.1 percent in 1976.

Priebus knows those numbers. And he knows how the dynamics would change if Trump were to enter the fall 2016 race as a free agent. In the latest ABC News/Washington Post poll, Democrat Hillary Clinton leads Republican Jeb Bush by six points in a race without Trump; in a race with Trump, Clinton leads by 16 points.

Republicans recognize offending Trump is politically risky. Yet it is going to become increasingly difficult to treat Trump with kid gloves. His fellow candidates are already calling him out and party leaders — including Priebus — could well be forced to do so if the debates blow up.

Ralph Nader, who knows a thing or two about independent and third-party candidacies, says, “The Republican Party establishment is playing with nitroglycerine” when it tries to manage, minimize or exclude Trump. Why? “Because a jilted Donald Trump as a third-party candidate can blow the presidential race wide open and turn it into a three-way race.” And a three-way race that includes Trump would cause the sort of headache that could ruin an RNC chair’s whole year.

Wolfman · Post by **Wolfman** » Sat Aug 01, 2015 9:31 pm

I can testify to one thing. The only announced candidate for the Republican party nomination that has not sent me any e-mails or USPS solicitations asking for money is..........................Donald Trump. Take it to mean what you wish.

BarFlie · Post by **BarFlie** » Sat Aug 01, 2015 10:34 pm

successful businessmen know how to negotiate and wheel and deal. successful politicians know how to bullshit and kiss ass

therefore I'm for Trump.

jmo

Diego in Seattle · Post by **Diego in Seattle** » Sat Aug 01, 2015 10:42 pm

I'm for the candidate who wants to put Americans back to work.

Guess that rules out Trump.

BarFlie · Post by **BarFlie** » Sat Aug 01, 2015 10:48 pm

Diego in Seattle wrote:I'm for the candidate who wants to put Americans back to work.

Guess that rules out Trump.

1,100 since the year 2000??? Who gives a fuck and at least he's getting them here legally.

Atomic Punk · Post by **Atomic Punk** » Sun Aug 02, 2015 1:19 am

Ped0 in Seattle wrote:
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/ ... ar-BBlifds]Guess that rules out Trump.

MSN is a great source of info! How about an MSNBC, Huffington Post or a John Stewart one? Thank you Ped0 for providing an objective news source!