Organized religion is thankfully headed towards Extiction

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Sat Aug 01, 2015 3:47 pm

smackaholic wrote:He gets government involved to force others to change their behavior.

We have a leader in the clubhouse for "stupidest post of the year."

Yup, it's those dirty atheists telling you you can't get you can't get your homo on if you're so inclined, you can't watch porn, and you can't buy booze on Sundays.

Fucking apologize for making the world a dumber place with that chunk of moronitude, asshole.

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Sat Aug 01, 2015 3:56 pm

mvscal wrote:No, there isn't. That's why they call it faith. If you are quoting the bible to prove the veracity of the bible, you are just sucking your own dick.

B-b-b -b-but... some guys who were there edited the Bible... 60 fucking years later.

IT'S FUCKING PROOF!!!!!! THERE WERE FUCKING FOUR OF THEM!!!! CAN'T YOU SEE??!!?? IT'S PROOF!!!!!!!!!

And C'o'og's, et al -- the reason a have a modicum of disdain for Christians, is that I know I'm dealing with a truly stupid person who isn't capable of rational thought. It usually goes downhill from there.

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Sat Aug 01, 2015 4:18 pm

KC Scott wrote: According to The Constitution, a Fetus has no rights

FTFY

mvscal · Post by **mvscal** » Sat Aug 01, 2015 5:30 pm

Dinsdale wrote:
KC Scott wrote: According to The Constitution, a Fetus has no rights

FTFY

Link?

smackaholic · Post by **smackaholic** » Sat Aug 01, 2015 5:39 pm

Dinsdale wrote:
smackaholic wrote:He gets government involved to force others to change their behavior.
We have a leader in the clubhouse for "stupidest post of the year."

Yup, it's those dirty atheists telling you you can't get you can't get your homo on if you're so inclined, you can't watch porn, and you can't buy booze on Sundays.

Fucking apologize for making the world a dumber place with that chunk of moronitude, asshole.

I conceded that the thumpers do sometimes get a little too worked up about dudes jamming their cahks into other dudes. As for them fighting some battle against pron, maybe they did in the past, but, I'd say that one is pretty much over. As for the sunday liquor laws, CT recently dragged itself into the 21st century and permitted it, but, it had fukk all to do with religion. Sunday opening has been opposed by the liquor store owner lobby here forever. Having to be open 7 days and earlier/later means that small liquor owners actually have to look at hiring extra staff. They did manage to hold on to the ridiculous law that says a store with gas pumps can not sell beer. This means no beer sales at convenience stores, eliminating a big potential competitor.

So, as I said earlier, religious a-holes don't concern me much regarding their meddling in the legal/regulatory systems as they aren't very successful at it. I wish progtard nanny stater was equally inept.

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Sat Aug 01, 2015 6:02 pm

They just allowed Sunday booze sales in NY about 10 years ago. The trade off was that to sell on Sunday you had to close on another day of the week. Of course that's just booze and wine. You can buy beer 7 days a week at any old supermarket and gas station. In fact the gas station down the street from me sells draft beer in growlers. Pretty sweet.

smackaholic · Post by **smackaholic** » Sat Aug 01, 2015 6:33 pm

CT has had the most restrictive booze sales that I know of. Looks like NY is similar, though not as restrictive. Obviously due to our powerful thumper communities.

Shlomart Ben Yisrael · Sat Aug 01, 2015 7:03 pm

The Seer wrote:
poptart wrote: There was a certain rich man, which was clothed in purple and fine linen, and fared sumptuously every day

^^^^^^

why hasn't this been RACK'd yet?

seriously...fukk this place sometimes...

Goober McTuber · Post by **Goober McTuber** » Sat Aug 01, 2015 7:20 pm

Shlomart Ben Yisrael wrote:
The Seer wrote:
poptart wrote: There was a certain rich man, which was clothed in purple and fine linen, and fared sumptuously every day

^^^^^^

why hasn't this been RACK'd yet?

We're still trying to formulate a reply involving rape. I think Shaq would have been a better choice.

Shlomart Ben Yisrael · Sat Aug 01, 2015 7:41 pm

Goober McTuber wrote:
We're still trying to formulate a reply involving rape. I think Shaq would have been a better choice.

If AP chimes ('sup, Milton) in...he can tells us all about a harrowing episode of the Trolls legacy, namely the story of the villainous "Troll Stop Rapist". He was there at "ground zero"...he has details that he's been sitting on quietly for over a decade. His revelations could prove explosive.

Diego in Seattle · Post by **Diego in Seattle** » Sat Aug 01, 2015 8:06 pm

Shlomart Ben Yisrael wrote:
Goober McTuber wrote:
We're still trying to formulate a reply involving rape. I think Shaq would have been a better choice.

Shlomart Ben Yisrael · Sat Aug 01, 2015 8:14 pm

Oh, is that what you think I'm up to?

Believe me, the stories I could tell...

Pray to whatever god(s) you worship that sleeping dogs have as of this moment, been left sleeping...

trev · Post by **trev** » Sat Aug 01, 2015 9:04 pm

In California you can buy liquor, beer, and wine and mixers at the liquor stores and grocery stores 24/7. Your state will eventually evolve to that.

In TN, things are really messed up. No sales on Sunday. You can't buy liquor at a grocery store. You can't buy beer and wine at a liquor store. A liquor store can not sell mixers. If you are a bar, you have to serve food at your establishment. They are making it harder to get, but come on, people are going to get it anyway.

Bucmonkey · Post by **Bucmonkey** » Sat Aug 01, 2015 10:15 pm

Shlomart Ben Yisrael wrote:
The Seer wrote:
poptart wrote: There was a certain rich man, which was clothed in purple and fine linen, and fared sumptuously every day

^^^^^^

why hasn't this been RACK'd yet?

seriously...fukk this place sometimes...

rack

Diego in Seattle · Post by **Diego in Seattle** » Sat Aug 01, 2015 10:41 pm

trev wrote:In California you can buy liquor, beer, and wine and mixers at the liquor stores and grocery stores 24/7.

http://www.abc.ca.gov/questions/enforcement_faq1.html

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Sun Aug 02, 2015 2:14 am

mvscal wrote:
Dinsdale wrote:
KC Scott wrote: According to The Constitution, a Fetus has no rights

FTFY
Link?

Really?

You're telling me you've never read the Fourteenth Amendment?

They lay it out pretty clearly.

It it the "born" or "naturalized" part you're struggling with?

poptart · Post by **poptart** » Sun Aug 02, 2015 2:15 am

mvscal wrote:No, there isn't. That's why they call it faith. If you are quoting the bible to prove the veracity of the bible, you are just sucking your own dick.

The Bible, 66 separate Books authored by 40 different people, is not evidence that Jesus is the Christ?

No evidence at all?

lol

Oooookay.

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Sun Aug 02, 2015 2:19 am

trev wrote:In California you can buy liquor, beer, and wine and mixers at the liquor stores and grocery stores 24/7.

I've resided in the state of California for exactly 0/0, and...

Uhhhh... wrong.

But I realized you're long since in a stupor by the time 2AM rolls around, which is when I've always known the deadline to be in California.

Maybe your state will evolve to knowing your own laws, and not having to learn them from your neighbors.

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Sun Aug 02, 2015 2:21 am

trev wrote:If you are a bar, you have to serve food at your establishment.

I think that's pretty standard. Here, it's "2 substantial dishes available."

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Sun Aug 02, 2015 2:22 am

poptart wrote:
mvscal wrote:No, there isn't. That's why they call it faith. If you are quoting the bible to prove the veracity of the bible, you are just sucking your own dick.
The Bible, 66 separate Books authored by 40 different people, is not evidence that Jesus is the Christ?

No evidence at all?

lol

Oooookay.

I hate to be the one to tell you -- there's OVERWHELMING evidence that there was never a Jesus, and his legend first appeared about 60 years later. OVERWHELMING evidence.

So sorry you had to find out this way.

Cognitive dissonance(look it up) hasn't been kind to you. Sorry, bro.

Shlomart Ben Yisrael · Sun Aug 02, 2015 2:26 am

poptart wrote: The Bible...

Which one?

poptart · Post by **poptart** » Sun Aug 02, 2015 2:26 am

Scott wrote:The Court further held that a fetus is not a person protected by the constitution.

Most of the states are not in agreement with this.

poptart · Post by **poptart** » Sun Aug 02, 2015 2:28 am

Shlomart Ben Yisrael wrote:
poptart wrote: The Bible...

Which one?

I always quote from the King James Bible.

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Sun Aug 02, 2015 2:30 am

poptart wrote:
Scott wrote:The Court further held that a fetus is not a person protected by the constitution.
Most of the states are not in agreement with this.

And the states' opinion on matters of citizenship means... what?

poptart · Post by **poptart** » Sun Aug 02, 2015 2:36 am

Dinsdale wrote:
poptart wrote:
Scott wrote:The Court further held that a fetus is not a person protected by the constitution.
Most of the states are not in agreement with this.
And the states' opinion on matters of citizenship means... what?

I never claimed a fetus is a citizen.

It's illegal to kill a fetus -- in most states.

Is it legal to kill a non-citizen in America?

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Sun Aug 02, 2015 2:44 am

poptart wrote: I always quote from the King James Bible.

It makes perfect sense that a "historical" text that was written 1600 years after the fact is more accurate than hundreds written at the actual time of the alleged events. Perfectly logical.

Nevermind that hundreds of historical accounts are all at complete odds with the one written 1600 years later. The one written several hundred miles away, several hundred years later is obviously the correct account... if you're really fucking stupid.

Dude, do you realize how dumd you and your ilk sound? You constantly come on here and harp about how "the prophecy was fufilled." You say that shit ad nauseum.

Guess what? I can predict every World Series winner between 1903 and 1956, and I can even "prophecy" about the results of WWII.

It's the same fucking thing, and it's beyond laughable.

The KJB was written to keep the uneducated masses in their place, that of being subservient. How sad that the cheap ploy still holds true 400 years later.

But believe away. I'll support your right to do so, as it's none of my business... until it effects me. Just know that, beyond any and all doubt, that you're absolutely wrong. Not even up for debate. Simply you assuaging your ego and placating your need to feel enlightened. Just keep it to yourself, OK? (And yes, I do realize that the only reason to do it is for others, despite your fervent assertions to the contrary.)

I feel truly fortunate that I suffer no such feelings of inadequacy, since I don't feel inadequate, which is the root of radical religious zealousness.

So, in short...

sorry about your dick, dude. Must really be lame for your wife.

poptart · Post by **poptart** » Sun Aug 02, 2015 3:05 am

Dins wrote:It makes perfect sense that a "historical" text that was written 1600 years after the fact is more accurate than hundreds written at the actual time of the alleged events. Perfectly logical.

Nevermind that hundreds of historical accounts are all at complete odds with the one written 1600 years later. The one written several hundred miles away, several hundred years later is obviously the correct account... if you're really fucking stupid.

Dude, do you realize how dumd you and your ilk sound? You constantly come on here and harp about how "the prophecy was fufilled." You say that shit ad nauseum.

Guess what? I can predict every World Series winner between 1903 and 1956, and I can even "prophecy" about the results of WWII.

It's the same fucking thing, and it's beyond laughable.

The KJ Bible was not written 1600 years after Jesus.

You have a fundamental misunderstanding, if this is what you think.

What was written (including specific prophecies) about Jesus was on record hundreds of years before He ever walked the earth.
Jesus specifically and completely fulfilled these prophecies about the coming Christ.

As I've posted before, for example, a very narrow and specific family line for the coming Messiah was predicted by multiple authors hundreds of years before He was born.
These writing were ON RECORD before He arrived.

He came through that very narrow and specific line.

It is what it is.

trev · Post by **trev** » Sun Aug 02, 2015 3:12 am

Excusez-moi for the faux pas about liquor. Yes, I was aware of the 2 am to 6 am. Big deal.

And dins was harsh but fair in his critique in this thread.

Smackie Chan · Post by **Smackie Chan** » Sun Aug 02, 2015 3:15 am

trev wrote:dins was harsh

Really? I didn't think harsh posted here anymore.

MgoBlue-LightSpecial · Sun Aug 02, 2015 3:33 am

Religious decline goes hand-in-hand with continued advancements in science and technology. Granted, we've still only scratched the surface of true understanding but we obviously know a fuckton more than we did back when Noah was molesting exotic animals at sea.

The only thing that might not make religion a completely obsolete practice is man's fear. No matter our understanding of our planet and the solar system, some people will always need to have something greater to believe in, in order to justify their existence and to assuage their anxiety of what lies ahead. Simply believing in an eternity of sunshine, puppies, and rainbows -- because it was written in a book a long time ago -- is so much easier to cope with than fretting over everlasting nothingness and/or the unknown.

Atomic Punk · Post by **Atomic Punk** » Sun Aug 02, 2015 7:15 am

MgoBlue-LightSpecial wrote:The only thing that might not make religion a completely obsolete practice is man's fear. No matter our understanding of our planet and the solar system, some people will always need to have something greater to believe in, in order to justify their existence and to assuage their anxiety of what lies ahead. Simply believing in an eternity of sunshine, puppies, and rainbows -- because it was written in a book a long time ago -- is so much easier to cope with than fretting over everlasting nothingness and/or the unknown.

I kid you not, that is the funniest thing I've ever read here in a long time. You are talking from your soul and what you've said is funny, but it is sad also. If you are going to die and there are no consequences, then why not rape, steal, murder and be smart enough to get away with it now while you are still living? There is nobody to answer to when you die, so why not get away with everything you can, right?

When you die, there is nothing. However, the shit posters that are stupid anyway will arise from the abyss and create a new board. They will call it... wait... "The Two Board."

poptart · Post by **poptart** » Sun Aug 02, 2015 9:02 am

Mgo wrote:Granted, we've still only scratched the surface of true understanding but we obviously know a fuckton more than we did back when Noah was molesting exotic animals at sea.

I wouldn't be so sure about that.

Have you ever researched the Pyramids at Giza?

I don't think we can currently come close to approaching what was done there.

Smackie Chan · Post by **Smackie Chan** » Sun Aug 02, 2015 9:57 am

Atomic Punk wrote:If you are going to die and there are no consequences, then why not rape, steal, murder and be smart enough to get away with it now while you are still living? There is nobody to answer to when you die, so why not get away with everything you can, right?

That says a helluva lot about you - that basically, the only thing that prevents you from being more of a dick than you already are is fear of the afterlife's consequences of your earthly misdeeds, and makes you ripe for the pickin' by organized (and even disorganized) religion. To me, that is far sadder than what you claim to be saddened by over Mgo's post.

Believe it or not, there is a significant segment of humanity whose morality is not guided by fear of eternal damnation. Some people do what's right simply because it's right, and don't do what's wrong because it's wrong. You're obviously not among that segment, so it may be a difficult concept for you to grasp. Getting away with as much as one can is not everyone's life goal. Fear of earthly punishment (shame, embarrassment, revenge, ridicule, public scorn, imprisonment, execution, etc.) is enough to keep some people on the straight & narrow, but others don't even need that. They do what is right because they get that they should for its own sake. That's not to say that institutionalized punishment should be abolished, because there are many who need deterrents to keep them from "getting over."

A strong argument can be made that Christianity in particular actually promotes bad behavior. It teaches that we all are born sinners - that humans are, at their cores, really evil beings (granted, many are). We simply can't help ourselves. So do what you're going to do, bad humans, but as long as you believe in Jeebus and accept him as Lord & Savior, you pretty much have a free pass to do what you like before the long dirtnap, because you'll be forgiven and have your ticket punched for Heaven no matter what you do, as long as you believe. That concept elevates thought over actions - what you believe is more important than what you do. It's not at all shocking or incongruous that many mobsters are devout Catholics.

I'm reminded of the story of the 10-year-old boy who tells his parents that he's been praying for God to give him a bicycle. His parents explain to him that God doesn't work that way, so the kid steals a bike and asks God (or Jesus) to forgive him. Though perhaps unintended, that is among the lessons Christianity teaches us.

The State · Post by **The State** » Sun Aug 02, 2015 10:00 am

Dinsdale wrote:
Cognitive dissonance

$$$

Sin,

The Civil Rights movement of the 60's

The State · Post by **The State** » Sun Aug 02, 2015 10:08 am

Smackie Chan wrote:
Atomic Punk wrote:If you are going to die and there are no consequences, then why not rape, steal, murder and be smart enough to get away with it now while you are still living? There is nobody to answer to when you die, so why not get away with everything you can, right?
That says a helluva lot about you

You act like you're new to the tranny and her behavior.

She's been the "poster child" for mental illness on this board since its inception.

Tell me you're not this blind ?

the truth

Smackie Chan · Post by **Smackie Chan** » Sun Aug 02, 2015 10:23 am

poptart wrote:
Mgo wrote:Granted, we've still only scratched the surface of true understanding but we obviously know a fuckton more than we did back when Noah was molesting exotic animals at sea.
I wouldn't be so sure about that.

Have you ever researched the Pyramids at Giza?

I don't think we can currently come close to approaching what was done there.

You mean applying mathematical principles and getting slaves to perform the labor? Yeah, I'm pretty sure we could build more pyramids today if there was a practical reason to do so.

poptart · Post by **poptart** » Sun Aug 02, 2015 10:27 am

Smackie wrote:A strong argument can be made that Christianity in particular actually promotes bad behavior.
I'm reminded of the story of the 10-year-old boy who tells his parents that he's been praying for God to give him a bicycle. His parents explain to him that God doesn't work that way, so the kid steals a bike and asks God (or Jesus) to forgive him. Though perhaps unintended, that is among the lessons Christianity teaches us.

This is not what Jesus taught us.

The woman caught in adultery was ready to be stoned, and Jesus forgave her.
Then He said to her...

John 8:11
go, and sin no more

Believers are consistently encouraged in Scripture to be upright, to avoid sin, and to continually seek the filling of the Holy Spirit.

Reason being, apart from the Holy Spirit is... what spirit?

People are led by something.

So while it's true that a believer is washed clean of all sin by the Blood of Jesus Christ, and will be fine in the afterlife, he is still very vulnerable to the effects of sin in this life on earth.
"Unhappy results" come to people when they pursue sin.

Sin is the channel through which satan works, for both believer and non-believer.

poptart · Post by **poptart** » Sun Aug 02, 2015 10:30 am

Smackie wrote:You mean applying mathematical principles and getting slaves to perform the labor? Yeah, I'm pretty sure we could build more pyramids today if there was a practical reason to do so.

I'm not sure that's the case.

Seems to me that humanity is regressing.

The State · Post by **The State** » Sun Aug 02, 2015 10:33 am

poptart wrote:
Smackie wrote:A strong argument can be made that Christianity in particular actually promotes bad behavior.
I'm reminded of the story of the 10-year-old boy who tells his parents that he's been praying for God to give him a bicycle. His parents explain to him that God doesn't work that way, so the kid steals a bike and asks God (or Jesus) to forgive him. Though perhaps unintended, that is among the lessons Christianity teaches us.
This is not what Jesus taught us.

The woman caught in adultery was ready to be stoned, and Jesus forgave her.
Then He said to her...

John 8:11
go, and sin no more

Believers are consistently encouraged in Scripture to be upright, to avoid sin, and to continually seek the filling of the Holy Spirit.

Reason being, apart from the Holy Spirit is... what spirit?

People are led by something.

So while it's true that a believer is washed clean of all sin by the Blood of Jesus Christ, and will be fine in the afterlife, he is still very vulnerable to the effects of sin in this life on earth.
"Unhappy results" come to people when they pursue sin.

Sin is the channel through which satan works, for both believer and non-believer.

Smackie Chan · Post by **Smackie Chan** » Sun Aug 02, 2015 10:37 am

poptart wrote:This is not what Jesus taught us.

I didn't say it was. I said it's what Christianity teaches. There's a difference.