70 years ago today

[BSmack]

“Sixteen hours ago an American airplane dropped one bomb on Hiroshima. It is an atomic bomb. We are now prepared to obliterate more rapidly and completely every productive enterprise the Japanese have above ground in any city. If they do not now accept our terms they may expect a rain of ruin from the air the like of which has never been seen on this earth."

~Harry Truman

[smackaholic]

good thing we didn't have the current crew running things back then.

[Goober McTuber]

Right. Nothing bad could possibly happen if we started dropping nukes. Idiots.

[Shlomart Ben Yisrael]

When the end of hostilities draws near, that's the time to test out all your worst, most fucked up war toys...vile stuff like setting German cities on fire.
You're going to win, so you're the judge, jury and executioner at the war crimes trials.

History as judge?...pffft...whatever...let your great-grandchildren sort out that moral dilemma.

[Shlomart Ben Yisrael]

Also...70 years ago today...Goober had his retirement party.

[Shlomart Ben Yisrael]

^^^^^^

'Spray PM'ed me and asked if I would post that.

[Goober McTuber]

What a gutless tard he is.

[Diego in Seattle]

We're thankful that Truman dropped a deuce on Japan.

Sin,
Raymond Burr
Matthew Broderick

[Wolfman]

One of the things "Give 'Em Hell Harry" did right. If you read history, we only had three bombs. Each was a different mechanism and made independently by 3 different groups unbeknown to each other. One was the test at Alamagordo, one at Hiroshima, the 3rd at Nagasaki (sucked to be them as the primary target was clouded over). The Japs did not know we had no 4th bomb ready and it would have taken some time to get one. At the same time we were bombing the shit out of Tokyo and other cities with WP and other "conventional" weapons. MacArthur entered Japan with occupation forces before disarming the Japanese military. He understood their code of honor.

[Mikey]

MacArthur entered Japan with occupation forces before disarming the Japanese military.

Did he find any dead babies?

[Sirfindafold]

....disarming the Japanese military.

Pffft. Why bother, they are the frosh-soph.

sin,

McGoober

[Goober McTuber]

....disarming the Japanese military.

Pffft. Why bother, they are the frosh-soph.

sin,

McGoober

What the fuck are you babbling about now?

[Bucmonkey]

MacArthur entered Japan with occupation forces before disarming the Japanese military.

Did he find any dead babies?

In Okinawa for sure...

[mvscal]

...sort out that moral dilemma.

What moral dilemma would that be? They started it. We finished it.

[Shlomart Ben Yisrael]

...sort out that moral dilemma.

What moral dilemma would that be? They started it. We finished it.

I don't have a moral dilemma with the Soviet's "settling" of affairs in their periphery...

[mvscal]

...sort out that moral dilemma.

What moral dilemma would that be? They started it. We finished it.

I don't have a moral dilemma with the Soviet's "settling" of affairs in their periphery...

Neither do I.

NATO should have been disbanded after the fall of the USSR. Now it is an aggressive and destabilizing force with no clear mission.

[smackaholic]

Got-dammit, spray......I really didn't need to see that.

You sick fukk.

Got any more?

[War Wagon]

One of the things "Give 'Em Hell Harry" did right.

A favorite son of a great state, how appropriate that the official surrender occurred where it did, probably not by coincidence.

[Screw_Michigan]

NATO should have been disbanded after the fall of the USSR. Now it is an aggressive and destabilizing force with no clear mission.

NATO is a welfare program for the militaries of western Europe.

[smackaholic]

Not sure it should have been disbanded, but, it sure as hell should have had a good bit of the bill transferred to the euros.

[smackaholic]

As for dropping the hammer on Hiroshima/Nagasaki, I remember talkeding about this with my grandfather, who, being close to wolfie's age, was actually a middle-aged dude at the time. He thought that dropping it was OK, but that we should have dropped it in an unpopulated area, maybe even a few miles off the coast. It would have still delivered the message with vaporizing a few hundred thousand innocent women and chillins.

[Screw_Michigan]

Not sure it should have been disbanded, but, it sure as hell should have had a good bit of the bill transferred to the euros.

The Euros and the US know how the game is played. The US pays lip service about Western Europe increasing its GDP contribution toward NATO, but instead the Euros allow the US to place its missile defense systems all over the area and they also kick in a portion.

[mvscal]

It would have still delivered the message with {sic} vaporizing a few hundred thousand innocent women and chillins.

Innocent of what? There is no such thing as an "innocent" civilian. There are only our civilians and their civilians and I don't give one shaved cunt of a fuck about their civilians. I would also note that we haven't had a decisive victory over anybody since we began all this fatuous hand-wringing over "innocent civilians." Fuck them.

Your pappy was an idiot. Japan didn't surrender when we dropped one on Hiroshima. They wouldn't have even noticed a demonstration in the middle of nowhere. That also would have left us with only one bomb and we know for a fact that that wouldn't have been enough.