The Rod of God -- (!) Pages 33 and 34 (!)

poptart · Post by **poptart** » Fri Oct 23, 2015 2:04 am

Dinsdale wrote:
poptart wrote: 4. From a flat earth perspective, I don't yet have a sure answer I am confident in as far as eclipses.

I'll help you out, bro...

the reason you're not confident in them, is because they're beyond moronic.

Moronic is thinking standing water humps or bends.

Yes.

That is moronic.

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Fri Oct 23, 2015 2:07 am

For sure.

poptart · Post by **poptart** » Fri Oct 23, 2015 2:13 am

Is that a serious response?

Surrender accepted.

MgoBlue-LightSpecial · Fri Oct 23, 2015 2:14 am

Jay in Phoenix wrote:Are you really sure you want to journey further down this slope?

Strangely enough, tart's wife asked him the same thing on their first date.

smackaholic · Post by **smackaholic** » Fri Oct 23, 2015 2:36 am

poptart wrote:

I see where you are going with this. Extend the light beams and they intersect a few miles up, not 93 million. This would mean the sun was really close and really small. So, lemme axe you this. If the sun is 30 miles up in the sky and maybe a mile or 2 across, could you please 'splain to me how the fukk it could be high in the sky, all the way across 3000 miles of country, seeing as it is 2 PM in MY while it is 11AM in LA.

I know, you don't have the answer. The sun is magic. Maybe the big guy just uses mirrors or something. Who the fukk knows.

To answer your sunbeam question, it's called reflection. You ever been at 35K ft above the clouds and looked down? Them dark clouds are bright as fukk. Wanna know why? It is because they reflect light. And that is why sunbeams can appear to come from different angles, because they do, after they bounce off clouds.

So, are 41 pages of this KYOA clinic enough, or are ya thirsty for more?

Atomic Punk · Post by **Atomic Punk** » Fri Oct 23, 2015 2:49 am

smackaholic wrote:
poptart wrote:
I see where you are going with this. Extend the light beams and they intersect a few miles up, not 93 million. This would mean the sun was really close and really small. So, lemme axe you this. If the sun is 30 miles up in the sky and maybe a mile or 2 across, could you please 'splain to me how the fukk it could be high in the sky, all the way across 3000 miles of country, seeing as it is 2 PM in MY while it is 11AM in LA.

I know, you don't have the answer. The sun is magic. Maybe the big guy just uses mirrors or something. Who the fukk knows.

To answer your sunbeam question, it's called reflection. You ever been at 35K ft above the clouds and looked down? Them dark clouds are bright as fukk. Wanna know why? It is because they reflect light. And that is why sunbeams can appear to come from different angles, because they do, after they bounce off clouds.

So, are 41 pages of this KYOA clinic enough, or are ya thirsty for more?

You could have said it is the prism effect of light being dispersed through refraction of a low to Earth water vapor medium. Now pops has to look up on youtube what prisms are and light refracting. Way to confuse him even more.

BTW, quit asking for the thread to be locked. This pile-on is actually fun and free entertainment.

poptart · Post by **poptart** » Fri Oct 23, 2015 3:06 am

You gave us your little stick and shadow scenario, yet to validate your conclusion, did not show proof that...

1. the sun is 93 million miles away
2. it's rays are always coming at us always at a 90 degree angle

Yet you chirp about a pile on.

So it goes...

poptart · Post by **poptart** » Fri Oct 23, 2015 3:09 am

smackaholic wrote:I see where you are going with this. Extend the light beams and they intersect a few miles up, not 93 million. This would mean the sun was really close and really small. So, lemme axe you this. If the sun is 30 miles up in the sky and maybe a mile or 2 across, could you please 'splain to me how the fukk it could be high in the sky, all the way across 3000 miles of country, seeing as it is 2 PM in MY while it is 11AM in LA.

1. I never said the sun is 30 miles up and a mile or two across
2. You should read my last post on the previous page -- and watch the two very short videos

poptart · Post by **poptart** » Fri Oct 23, 2015 3:13 am

smackaholic wrote:To answer your sunbeam question, it's called reflection. You ever been at 35K ft above the clouds and looked down? Them dark clouds are bright as fukk. Wanna know why? It is because they reflect light. And that is why sunbeams can appear to come from different angles, because they do, after they bounce off clouds.

This is true.
I do not dispute that it happens.

Understand however, AP drew some conclusions based on a stick and shadow experiment, but based his findings on ASSUMPTIONS.

One assumption being, the rays of the sun are always coming on to the earth at a 90 degree angle.

Do we have proof of this?

poptart · Post by **poptart** » Fri Oct 23, 2015 3:14 am

Reset from the bottom of the previous page.
People should see this.

poptart wrote:AP (and y'all) think the sun is 93 million miles away.
So watch two very short sun time-lapse clips and then THINK for yourself about something.

Clip one at :26, notice the size of the sun.
Very small above the horizon.

It then gets bigger, bigger, bigger as it moves across the sky -- and then shrinks again as it lowers, to 1:01 when it is low and very small once again.

Clip two shows the same dynamic -- and he points out the size difference.

If this is an object that is 93 million miles away, it moving a mere few thousand miles away from us would not change it's size.
Or if it did, it would be nearly imperceptible.

But if an object is just a handful of thousand miles from us, yes, it moving thousands of miles away from us WOULD result in it getting smaller as it moved away.

This is basic common sense, right?

Is anyone alive here?

What we are seeing in these clips is this...

Atomic Punk · Post by **Atomic Punk** » Fri Oct 23, 2015 3:18 am

Pops, you have to be a true stone age idiot to dismiss what I've said. You clearly do not know anything about Geometry, Trigonometry, or basic science. Distances and the Earth's declination are easily provable by simple math, science, and observation (try reading up on prisms and refraction of light).

You pops, have to first dismiss ancient mathematicians as being wrong before you even rant on about NASA. Then you have to dismiss intelligent people that are alive at the same time as you.

Lastly, it is fun to keep the pile-on going on such an incredibly simple and foolish person. It used to be frustrating, but now it's a hobby to see what other torment from smart posters can bring to the topic to make you look even worse. Keep it going.

Screw_Michigan · Post by **Screw_Michigan** » Fri Oct 23, 2015 3:35 am

poptart · Post by **poptart** » Fri Oct 23, 2015 3:43 am

Jayne wrote:Poptart, you rely very heavily on bad Youtube videos, conspiracy websites and other incredibly flawed means of "evidence" to establish your amazingly skewed and bizarre perspective. Good for you for your stubborn and unswerving views. With that said, there is a disturbing and common thread that weaves itself through every post you place.

The sad reality is your obliviousness to its nature.

"Evil is unspectacular and always human and shapes our bed and eats at our own table."

Are you really sure you want to journey further down this slope?

poptart · Post by **poptart** » Fri Oct 23, 2015 3:47 am

Atomic Punk wrote:Pops, you have to be a true stone age idiot to dismiss what I've said.

It was quite easily done, dumbshit.

Prove that the sun is 93 million miles away and/or it's rays are always coming onto the earth at a 90 degree angle.

This should be simple for you -- since you're so smart and everything.

Atomic Punk · Post by **Atomic Punk** » Fri Oct 23, 2015 4:10 am

poptart wrote: It was quite easily done, dumbshit.

Prove that the sun is 93 million miles away and/or it's rays are always coming onto the earth at a 90 degree angle.

Actually, the burden of proof is upon you. You're the only moron that has no education to prove anything one way or the other. Even if math equations were presented and science explained in great detail, you still wouldn't understand them anyway and then deflect to heretics with as little knowledge such as yourself with youtube.

Anyway, enjoy the attention you get until this thread dies off.

mvscal · Post by **mvscal** » Fri Oct 23, 2015 3:35 pm

poptart wrote: Prove that the sun is 93 million miles away

Easy enough but you don't believe in trigonometry either, you poor dumb asshole.

Jay in Phoenix · Post by **Jay in Phoenix** » Sat Oct 24, 2015 12:56 am

poptart wrote:
Jayne wrote:Poptart, you rely very heavily on bad Youtube videos, conspiracy websites and other incredibly flawed means of "evidence" to establish your amazingly skewed and bizarre perspective. Good for you for your stubborn and unswerving views. With that said, there is a disturbing and common thread that weaves itself through every post you place.

The sad reality is your obliviousness to its nature.

"Evil is unspectacular and always human and shapes our bed and eats at our own table."

Are you really sure you want to journey further down this slope?

Ah yes, the ever brilliant animated gif response. No words or evidence to support your position, just a fucking useless GIF.

Caving in now you brainless coward? Cool, as this thing was derailed pages ago.

"We are Here on Earth to do good for others. What others (poptard) are here for, I don't know."

poptart · Post by **poptart** » Sat Oct 24, 2015 3:16 am

mvscal wrote:
poptart wrote: Prove that the sun is 93 million miles away
Easy enough but you don't believe in trigonometry either, you poor dumb asshole.

Using basic math and common sense, it should take anyone (other than a m0ron) about 1 minute to realize that it is mathematically IMPOSSIBLE for the sun to be anywhere close to 93 million miles from us.

Follow along...

For this simple lesson, here are the basic realities we are assuming.

1. The sun is 93 million miles from earth.
2. The earth is 25,000 miles in circumference
3. There are 24 time zones, each approximately 1,035 miles apart
4. It is spring equinox

poptart · Post by **poptart** » Sat Oct 24, 2015 3:17 am

Now let's select two places on earth -- about 3,105 miles apart, to represent 3 time zone difference (1,035x3).
I wanted to select two cities on the equator, but let's take these two cities because they are close to that representation.

Natal, Brazil -- our western city
Libreville, Estuaire, Gabon (Africa) -- our eastern city

On the spring equinox, everywhere (basically) gets 12 hours of sunlight, right?

So let's say we are in Natal, Brazil and it is 12:00 PM...

poptart · Post by **poptart** » Sat Oct 24, 2015 3:19 am

At 12:00 PM in Natal, the sun is directly overhead, right?
A straight line UP -- 93 million miles from us.

And at this same time, it is 3:00 PM in Libreville, Africa -- and that means the sun, on the equinox (12 hours sunlight) is at a 45 degree angle in the sky.
The sun will set 3 hours later.

Okay so far?

poptart · Post by **poptart** » Sat Oct 24, 2015 3:19 am

It is 12:00 in Natal (west city) on the equinox.

Natal (our west city) is at the far left of the bottom line, which is the earth's surface.
The sun is at the top of the straight line up -- and that distance there is 93 million miles.

Okay?

poptart · Post by **poptart** » Sat Oct 24, 2015 3:19 am

Libreville (our east city) is at the far right side of the bottom line.

And the line extending up to where the sun is -- is on a 45 degree angle, which is what we see if we are in Liberville at 3:00 PM on the equinox.

Okay so far?

poptart · Post by **poptart** » Sat Oct 24, 2015 3:20 am

This is the point where you have to look at the diagram, pause, and -----> THINK.

Are you...

?

Look at the line extending straight up to the sun.
This line is 93 million miles long.

Now look at the line on the bottom -- from Natal to Liberville, so that we can achieve the necessary 45 degree angle of the sun from Liberville.

Is Liberville, Africa 93 million miles from Natal, Brazil?

bwaaaa hahahaha!!

Is a light bulb coming on?

poptart · Post by **poptart** » Sat Oct 24, 2015 3:20 am

I wish I could see your face now as reality sets in and your heart sinks through your @sshole.

SO funny.
SO damn funny!

poptart · Post by **poptart** » Sat Oct 24, 2015 3:20 am

'tards, the sun isn't anywhere close to 93 million miles from us.

It is mathematically IMPOSSIBLE for it to even be remotely close to that.

Class dismissed.
lol

Atomic Punk · Post by **Atomic Punk** » Sat Oct 24, 2015 3:23 am

Pops, please post more about your genius triangle usage with distances.

Pure comedic gold. See Mg0? You can't make this shit up.

poptart · Post by **poptart** » Sat Oct 24, 2015 3:32 am

Please post your dispute with what I've posted.

"I'm smarter than you are," really doesn't quite cut the mustard, dumbshit.

Atomic Punk · Post by **Atomic Punk** » Sat Oct 24, 2015 3:45 am

poptart wrote:This is the point where you have to look at the diagram, pause, and -----> THINK.

Are you...

?

Look at the line extending straight up to the sun.
This line is 93 million miles long.

Now look at the line on the bottom -- from Natal to Liberville, so that we can achieve the necessary 45 degree angle of the sun from Liberville.

Is Liberville, Africa 93 million miles from Natal, Brazil?

bwaaaa hahahaha!!

Is a light bulb coming on?

Oh it has been on for a long time here pops. You did say the Earth was flat. At the same time you said the circumference is 25,000 miles.

This is amazing. Please carry on with your knowledge of math and geometry.

One can't make this up at how stupid pops is.

Atomic Punk · Post by **Atomic Punk** » Sat Oct 24, 2015 4:01 am

poptart wrote:Now let's select two places on earth -- about 3,105 miles apart, to represent 3 time zone difference (1,035x3).
I wanted to select two cities on the equator, but let's take these two cities because they are close to that representation.

Natal, Brazil -- our western city
Libreville, Estuaire, Gabon (Africa) -- our eastern city

On the spring equinox, everywhere (basically) gets 12 hours of sunlight, right?

So let's say we are in Natal, Brazil and it is 12:00 PM...

So, you are saying the Sun is now "about 3,105 miles" directly above the Earth right?

poptart · Post by **poptart** » Sat Oct 24, 2015 4:17 am

AP wrote:Oh it has been on for a long time here pops. You did say the Earth was flat. At the same time you said the circumference is 25,000 miles.

I couldn't find a pic with a curved (slightly) line at the bottom of this triangle -- to represent earth curvature from Natal to Libreville.

But go ahead and assume the mild curve we would see in 3,000 miles.

This just in: It matters -----> NOT AT ALL

25,000 mile earth circumference is the assumption I used, yes.
Because we are testing YOUR model.

Are you really dumb?

poptart · Post by **poptart** » Sat Oct 24, 2015 4:19 am

Atomic Punk wrote:
poptart wrote:Now let's select two places on earth -- about 3,105 miles apart, to represent 3 time zone difference (1,035x3).
I wanted to select two cities on the equator, but let's take these two cities because they are close to that representation.

Natal, Brazil -- our western city
Libreville, Estuaire, Gabon (Africa) -- our eastern city

On the spring equinox, everywhere (basically) gets 12 hours of sunlight, right?

So let's say we are in Natal, Brazil and it is 12:00 PM...
So, you are saying the Sun is now "about 3,105 miles" directly above the Earth right?

No, no, no, 'tard.

We are not talking about my model here.

We are testing YOUR model.

Why do you try to wriggle away?

LMAO!!

Atomic Punk · Post by **Atomic Punk** » Sat Oct 24, 2015 4:31 am

Because, even with using a flat Earth model with your "about 3,105 miles" on a flat Earth from your ground points from A to B both on the Equator = the Sun is directly above the Earth at a right angle at "about 3,105 miles" you complete moron. How do you live with yourself being this stupid?

poptart · Post by **poptart** » Sat Oct 24, 2015 4:45 am

You're had the realization, haven't you?

'tard, I have not put up any model and declared that it is THE model of our earth, have I?

But YOU have.

You've declared over and over that it IS the true earth -- and that I must have a mental problem if I deny it.

So we are testing it.

How's it doing?

lol

Atomic Punk · Post by **Atomic Punk** » Sat Oct 24, 2015 4:53 am

poptart wrote:You're had the realization, haven't you?

'tard, I have not put up any model and declared that it is THE model of our earth, have I?

But YOU have.

You've declared over and over that it IS the true earth -- and that I must have a mental problem if I deny it.

So we are testing it.

How's it doing?

lol

YOU have mathematically suggested by your "right triangle" with your ground Earth reference points that the Sun is "about 3,105 miles" above the Earth... even assuming your flat Earth model. Do you want to disprove that math equation that you just posted?

WE aren't testing anything. I am proving that YOU are an idiot.

poptart · Post by **poptart** » Sat Oct 24, 2015 5:52 am

Oh my goodness...

Was that a serious take, 88?

Desperation truly sets in.

What is that 2nd perpendicular line going upward supposed to represent?

Just producing bullshit drawings won't help you out.

LOL

The top of your circle is Natal, 12:00.
Libreville is on the circle at the 45 degree line.

So now draw a a line from libreville at a 45 degree angle to the earth's surface, until it intersects with the perpendicular line from Natal to the sun.

THAT is the accurate picture -- as a 4th grader would clearly understand.

And as you do that, notice how the situation has only gotten worse for your model.

Your stupid crap model just simply DOES NOT add up.

It's a joke and only fools keep clinging to it.

Period.

Atomic Punk · Post by **Atomic Punk** » Sat Oct 24, 2015 5:57 am

88, pops falsely uses 45 degrees then doesn't understand a clock which is a circle. 12 O'clock to 3 O'clock is 90 degrees. However, he uses 3,105 miles at the Equator for 3 time zones. The problem becomes the angle viewed at the surface of the Earth when viewing the Sun at the same time. Using a 24 hour clock then you have 45 degrees over a day.

The unknown would be the distance to the Sun. Tough math there.

Y2K · Post by **Y2K** » Sat Oct 24, 2015 7:11 am

the point of intersection is 93,000,000 miles away.

poptart · Post by **poptart** » Sat Oct 24, 2015 1:48 pm

88 missed it by millions and millions of miles.

His two upward arrow lines will intersect, and it will be NOWHERE CLOSE to what would be 93 million miles from earth.
Not even close to the ballpark.

He's posted a joke.

Look, I'll show you what happens with 88's bullshit diagram.

The two upward arrow lines are 20 millimeters apart as they start...

Then extend the lines by just 3 pages...

By the end of 3 pages, the lines have been converging and are 16 millimeters apart...

88 would need to extend his upward lines to the sun using a row of papers extending to the nearest truck stop in order to prove his point, and yet as we see, when we extend the lines for a mere 15 pages, they will meet at the sun.

Being generous, 5 "earths" can fit on each page that I used.
So 5 x 15 = 75.

In 75 earth diameters 88's upward lines will meet at the sun.

Earth is said to be 7,900 miles in diameter.

7,900 x 75 = 592,500

88's diagram has the sun 592,500 miles (approximately) from earth.

And he's claiming victory.

Moving Sale · Post by **Moving Sale** » Sat Oct 24, 2015 2:00 pm

Wait. What?

Shlomart Ben Yisrael · Sat Oct 24, 2015 2:33 pm

poptart wrote:It then gets bigger, bigger, bigger as it moves across the sky

No, it doesn't

poptart wrote:and then shrinks again as it lowers,

No, it doesn't

poptart wrote:This is basic common sense, right?

~sigh~