Erin Hills

[Goober McTuber]

Face it, tubby, you can add golf to the long list of things you don't know jack shit about.

[War Wagon]

I watched quite a bit of the 3rd and 4th round and rather enjoyed seeing players I had never heard of (not that I follow the PGA much) at or near the top of the leader board. Golf course looked fine to me, a challenge for many of the higher ranked players. It was a bad call not having Harman and Koepka in the final pair. That Thomas guy had shot his load the previous day and even somebody as ignorant of the game as me knew that in advance. That scenario is not exclusive to golf, you see it thru-out sports.

One thing I hate about watching golf at any course is the yokels who seem to be at every last tee box yelling "Get in the Hole!" on a 681 yard par 5 or whatever when the guy is just trying to stay out of the trees.

[MgoBlue-LightSpecial]

Shittiest course I've ever seen the USO at. Sorry Goobs. I'm sure there's better in Wisconsin. Why in the fuck didn't they use one?

I heard they only played Erin Hills because smackaholic's backyard wasn't available.



Come on guys, we gotta get as much mileage out of these jokes as we can before the "upgrades" are complete...

[BSmack]

I watched quite a bit of the 3rd and 4th round and rather enjoyed seeing players I had never heard of (not that I follow the PGA much) at or near the top of the leader board. Golf course looked fine to me, a challenge for many of the higher ranked players. It was a bad call not having Harman and Koepka in the final pair. That Thomas guy had shot his load the previous day and even somebody as ignorant of the game as me knew that in advance. That scenario is not exclusive to golf, you see it thru-out sports.

Pairings are set on the weekend by score and by time of posting in the case of ties.

One thing I hate about watching golf at any course is the yokels who seem to be at every last tee box yelling "Get in the Hole!" on a 681 yard par 5 or whatever when the guy is just trying to stay out of the trees.

There is a special hell for those people.

[Goober McTuber]

Face it, tubby, you can add golf to the long list of things you don't know jack shit about.

You're obviously used to the ugly.

Thanks for proving my point, fatso.

[Bucmonkey]

Gravy course that will never host another...save the bullshit top 5 argument...

[Goober McTuber]

Gravy course that will never host another...save the bullshit top 5 argument...

Yes, you're an idiot.

Will the US Open return to Erin Hills? Bet on it

By GARY D'AMATO

Milwaukee Journal Sentinel

The U.S. Open is scheduled out through 2026, so a return visit to Erin Hills won't happen for at least 10 years.

But there's no way the United States Golf Association isn't coming back.

Not after a week in which players universally praised Erin Hills as a championship venue, the course was in immaculate condition, the spectator experience was exceptional and the whole thing worked well from an operations standpoint.

When I reached USGA executive director Mike Davis by phone Monday, he summed up the week in one word: "Superb."

Davis said he couldn't be more pleased with his organization's partnership with Erin Hills, which bent over backward to accommodate the U.S. Open. The vast 652-acre footprint gave the USGA room it doesn't have at other venues.

"Operationally, I would say I can speak for our ops guys that it was a huge success," Davis said. "Parking and traffic went well. It is such a great site and one of the beauties is it really is built on well-draining soil. Most places would be just mud after all the rain we got last week.

"So from a spectator standpoint it was a very good experience. I actually had people who have been to multiple U.S. Opens tell me it was one of the best they've attended. Also, I think Milwaukee and Wisconsin were great hosts. It was a very welcoming atmosphere. So I think we're very pleased."

The most important consideration, though, is the golf course. It has to challenge the best players in the world, reward their good shots and punish their bad ones – a fine line that is hard to get exactly right, especially at a first-time venue.

So what about all those low scores? Brooks Koepka won with a 16-under-par 272 total, Justin Thomas fired a record-tying 63 in the third round and 31 players finished under par for the championship.

An unusual week of weather, with some rain falling nearly every day and little wind until Sunday, conspired to take the teeth out of Erin Hills. Give the best players in the world soft fairways, perfect greens and calm conditions and there's no stopping them from breaking par.

"As much as people want to measure the winning score as a metric of success, our metric of success is, are we testing the players? Is each hole delivering the way we want it to deliver?" Davis said. "If everybody takes away from Erin Hills looking at only (scores), they're looking at it myopically."

Erin Hills owner Andy Ziegler pointed out that the course was the first par-72 U.S. Open venue since 1992. So although Koepka won with a record-tying 16-under score, his 272 total was only four shots lower than Dustin Johnson's 276 at Oakmont in 2016 and one shot higher than Martin Kaymer's 271 total in 2014 at Pinehurst.

"We had a little slower golf course than we would have liked," Ziegler said. "But a lot of players found it very difficult. Rory (McIlroy), Dustin (Johnson), Jason (Day) – those guys went home (after missing the cut), so I don't think any of those guys found it too easy."

Players are never afraid to voice their opinions about golf courses and have panned several U.S. Open setups in recent years. Most of them loved Erin Hills.

"I didn't really understand the beef it was getting for low scores," Thomas said. "That's not low for the best players in the world in a major championship. I think there's no reason why it couldn't host another U.S. Open."

Ziegler finally was able to catch his breath Monday and reflect on the first-ever U.S. Open in Wisconsin.

"My overwhelming sense as I look back on it today is a sense of appreciation for what all of the people involved did," he said. "Our team at Erin Hills, if you think about it, this is a small group of people that run a small daily fee golf business and the U.S. Open is such an enormous undertaking. I'm highly appreciative and very proud of our team.

"I really, really appreciate the people of Wisconsin. The volunteers did a wonderful job. We exceeded our attendance and merchandise goals. The fans in Wisconsin are the best in the world. It was a great week."

Ziegler said the USGA had an open invitation to bring any of its national championships to his course, up to and including the U.S. Open.

It's far too early for the USGA to commit to another Open to Erin Hills. There's a process that begins with a nomination from the championships committee, which is considering multiple courses for 2027 and beyond.

But Davis gave every indication that the U.S. Open will return.

"We never come in one of these thinking it's going to be a one and done," he said. "If we bring one, we're going to bring multiple."

[Mikey]

It'll be back here in 2021.

[Goober McTuber]

By GARY D'AMATO

Milwaukee Journal Sentinel

There's plenty more similar articles out there. But keep shining a light on your own stupidity. It looks good on you.

[Goober McTuber]

How'd you know I used to live in Florida?

BTW, the players and the USGA all seem to disagree with you.

[Bucmonkey]

You will be dead before they return to that high scoring cow pasture Gobs.

[Moving Sale]

Did TPOTS (That Piece Of Tiger Shit) win? No? Great course!!!

[Goober McTuber]

You will be dead before they return to that high scoring cow pasture Gobs.

Right. The players loved it. The USGA loved it. So they'll never come back. Idiot.

[BSmack]

You will be dead before they return to that high scoring cow pasture Gobs.

This isn't David Fay's USGA. I'm sure they will make some minor tweaks but the property itself is fantastic and the USGA will be back. By the way did you notice one thing about the Sunday round? Yeah that's right, it finished in primetime.

[Goober McTuber]

I still hate that Fox has the broadcast rights. Joe Buck is OK for football and baseball. Not so for golf. But he was impressed with Justin Thompson's round on Saturday.

The Fox cameramen are also fairly inept at following the ball in the air, hence the overuse of shot-tracker.

[Goober McTuber]

I still hate that Fox has the broadcast rights. Joe Buck is OK for football and baseball. Not so for golf. But he was impressed with Justin Thompson's round on Saturday.

The Fox cameramen are also fairly inept at following the ball in the air, hence the overuse of shot-tracker.

Still butthurt, aren't you? :grin:

Not at all. I learned a long time that you can't fix stupid. Stupid.

[Jay in Phoenix]

I still hate that Fox has the broadcast rights. Joe Buck is OK for football and baseball. Not so for golf. But he was impressed with Justin Thompson's round on Saturday.

The Fox cameramen are also fairly inept at following the ball in the air, hence the overuse of shot-tracker.

Do you have any idea how difficult it is for a camera op to follow the flight of a golf ball? Do you even know how they do it?

If you're working a pro golf event, you are not inept. Can they (cameramen) make a mistake and lose track of the ball? Yes, of course, it happens, it's not a perfect science. I've seen mistakes occur on all levels of pro sports, but said errors are infrequent and there is usually a good reason for them.

[BSmack]

I still hate that Fox has the broadcast rights. Joe Buck is OK for football and baseball. Not so for golf. But he was impressed with Justin Thompson's round on Saturday.

The Fox cameramen are also fairly inept at following the ball in the air, hence the overuse of shot-tracker.

Do you have any idea how difficult it is for a camera op to follow the flight of a golf ball? Do you even know how they do it?.

I figure that the camera operators use some kind of ninja wizardry to figure out where the ball is in flight. I attribute Fox's use of the shot tracker to the normal attitude of Fox Sports which is to try to light up whatever object is in play. Anybody remember the glowing puck?

[Goober McTuber]

I still hate that Fox has the broadcast rights. Joe Buck is OK for football and baseball. Not so for golf. But he was impressed with Justin Thompson's round on Saturday.

The Fox cameramen are also fairly inept at following the ball in the air, hence the overuse of shot-tracker.

Do you have any idea how difficult it is for a camera op to follow the flight of a golf ball? Do you even know how they do it?

If you're working a pro golf event, you are not inept. Can they (cameramen) make a mistake and lose track of the ball? Yes, of course, it happens, it's not a perfect science. I've seen mistakes occur on all levels of pro sports, but said errors are infrequent and there is usually a good reason for them.

I know that NBC and CBS are pretty good at it, Fox not so much so. Which figures, since they're pretty new at covering golf.

[Goober McTuber]

Not at all. I learned a long time that you can't fix stupid. Stupid.

Is that why you seduce cows with cheap liquor?

You can seduce cows with a handful of fresh hay. Tell me you knew.