When you pander to criminals

smackaholic · Post by **smackaholic** » Wed Sep 20, 2017 1:44 am

Keep pandering to them, you stupid bitch.

Diego in Seattle · Post by **Diego in Seattle** » Wed Sep 20, 2017 2:02 am

schmick wrote:The criminals will always demand more.

Yup...The GOP has achieved many tax cuts but always want more.

Derron · Post by **Derron** » Wed Sep 20, 2017 3:51 am

Stuttering bitch got the tables turned on her real fast. Pandering for votes and they shout her ass down. Epic.

Diego in Seattle · Post by **Diego in Seattle** » Wed Sep 20, 2017 6:21 am

Derron wrote:Stuttering bitch got the tables turned on her real fast. Pandering for votes and they shout her ass down. Epic.

I'm sure glad everything is hunky-dory over at the republitard tent....

Oh, wait...

Left Seater · Post by **Left Seater** » Wed Sep 20, 2017 12:47 pm

Says quite a lot that Diego compares cutting taxes to criminal behavior.

Goober McTuber · Post by **Goober McTuber** » Wed Sep 20, 2017 1:05 pm

Considering the level of our national debt, cutting taxes right now would be criminal. Cutting spending would be a better option.

Left Seater · Post by **Left Seater** » Wed Sep 20, 2017 2:08 pm

Without a doubt cutting spending is the way forward. But neither party has shown they have the ability to do that.

Moving Sale · Post by **Moving Sale** » Wed Sep 20, 2017 3:08 pm

They make 174 to 223 you fuckin dolt.

ML@Coyote · Post by **ML@Coyote** » Wed Sep 20, 2017 3:35 pm

You're both wrong. It's more like 2-3 million when you take into account bribes, favors, perks, and creative bookkeeping.

Moving Sale · Post by **Moving Sale** » Wed Sep 20, 2017 3:40 pm

I was talking about their paycheck.

Diego in Seattle · Post by **Diego in Seattle** » Wed Sep 20, 2017 5:45 pm

Left Seater wrote:Without a doubt cutting spending is the way forward.

Having cabinet secretaries fly commercially would be a great start.

Left Seater · Post by **Left Seater** » Wed Sep 20, 2017 7:39 pm

Diego in Seattle wrote:
Left Seater wrote:Without a doubt cutting spending is the way forward.
Having cabinet secretaries fly commercially would be a great start.

Symbolically sure. In practice not so much when you consider security and other such issues. But I am all for it.

The Essential Air Service is another one that should go tomorrow in all places but for maybe Alaska. Then reduce every department's budget by 15% tomorrow.

Derron · Post by **Derron** » Wed Sep 20, 2017 8:42 pm

Diego in Seattle wrote:
Derron wrote:Stuttering bitch got the tables turned on her real fast. Pandering for votes and they shout her ass down. Epic.
I'm sure glad everything is hunky-dory over at the republitard tent....

Oh, wait...

As you swallow another load of mainstream media jizz that was just splatted all over your grille, then lick it off and hit the keyboard once again. It must be true..right ?? I mean it is on USA Todays website..

Diego in Seattle · Post by **Diego in Seattle** » Thu Sep 21, 2017 12:17 am

Derron wrote:
Diego in Seattle wrote:
Derron wrote:Stuttering bitch got the tables turned on her real fast. Pandering for votes and they shout her ass down. Epic.
I'm sure glad everything is hunky-dory over at the republitard tent....

Oh, wait...
As you swallow another load of mainstream media jizz that was just splatted all over your grille, then lick it off and hit the keyboard once again. It must be true..right ?? I mean it is on USA Todays website..

I guess your concept of a legitimate news source is Breitbart. Pizzagate, anyone?

And if the the mainstream media is only pushing fake news like #TrumpRussia, why is practically everyone at the White House lawyering up if it is fake news?

Left Seater · Post by **Left Seater** » Thu Sep 21, 2017 2:01 am

And if the the mainstream media is only pushing fake news like #TrumpRussia, why is practically everyone at the White House lawyering up if it is fake news?

Well until lawyers like the midget quit bringing bogus lawsuits people are forced to lawyer up for this crap.

Moving Sale · Post by **Moving Sale** » Thu Sep 21, 2017 2:30 am

I have never sued anyone, let alone for "bogus" reasons, but why let facts get in your way at this point.

Left Seater · Post by **Left Seater** » Thu Sep 21, 2017 4:20 am

It was a swipe at your industry.

Derron · Post by **Derron** » Thu Sep 21, 2017 4:33 am

Left Seater wrote:It was a swipe at your ~~industry~~ incompetent quackery scam

FTFY.

Derron · Post by **Derron** » Thu Sep 21, 2017 4:36 am

Left Seater wrote:
And if the the mainstream media is only pushing fake news like #TrumpRussia, why is practically everyone at the White House lawyering up if it is fake news?
Well until lawyers like the midget quit bringing bogus lawsuits people are forced to lawyer up for this crap.

You notice how effectively he responds to the midget blast without mentioning him by nic. He knows his name. Scoreboard Lefty.

Moving Sale · Post by **Moving Sale** » Thu Sep 21, 2017 5:13 am

Yes I know you all are obsessed with my body. It's about all you've talked about for years.

Moving Sale · Post by **Moving Sale** » Thu Sep 21, 2017 5:17 am

Left Seater wrote:It was a swipe at your industry.

Then why didn't you cite 88? His firm has probably sued more people than I have.

Goober McTuber · Post by **Goober McTuber** » Thu Sep 21, 2017 12:50 pm

OK, fatboy, please explain how you are going to cut taxes and reduce the national debt?

Diego in Seattle · Post by **Diego in Seattle** » Thu Sep 21, 2017 1:35 pm

Goober McTuber wrote:OK, fatboy, please explain how you are going to cut taxes and reduce the national debt?

We already know the standard answer.

Lower taxes will lead to more money in peoples' pockets.

The problem w/ that tax cuts are directed mostly towards the 1%. And they tend to horde money than spend it (as well as buying expensive things, not many things).

The only thing "trickle-down economics" does is make the poor look like Trump's sexual fantasies.

Goober McTuber · Post by **Goober McTuber** » Thu Sep 21, 2017 3:39 pm

I know. I just wanted to see if Spray was dumb enough to believe in trickle down.

Mikey · Post by **Mikey** » Thu Sep 21, 2017 4:29 pm

Papa Willie wrote:
Goober McTuber wrote: cutting taxes right now would be criminal.
Weird. Because in another thread, you said:

Goober McTuber wrote:I am a libertarian.
I think you need to read up on the Libertarian handbook, dude...

He meant Librarian.

Left Seater · Post by **Left Seater** » Thu Sep 21, 2017 7:00 pm

Diego in Seattle wrote:
The problem w/ that tax cuts are directed mostly towards the 1%.

False. The truth is the 1% pay somewhere are 45% of the individual taxes. The top 20% pay somewhere around 84% of individual taxes. Or the bottom 80% of earners only pay a total of 16% of the individual taxes in a given year.

So any tax cuts are going to have a much larger impact on the higher earners since they are paying way more than their fair share.

Moving Sale · Post by **Moving Sale** » Thu Sep 21, 2017 7:28 pm

What % of wealth do the top 1% have?

Goober McTuber · Post by **Goober McTuber** » Thu Sep 21, 2017 7:51 pm

Papa Willie wrote:
Mikey wrote:
He meant Librarian.
I think you're right.

Left Seater · Post by **Left Seater** » Thu Sep 21, 2017 8:05 pm

Moving Sale wrote:What % of wealth do the top 1% have?

Who cares. Whatever they have has already been taxed.

Moving Sale · Post by **Moving Sale** » Thu Sep 21, 2017 9:04 pm

At what %?
And what % of $ made last year was by the top 1%?

Shlomart Ben Yisrael · Thu Sep 21, 2017 9:16 pm

Left Seater wrote:
Moving Sale wrote:What % of wealth do the top 1% have?
Who cares. Whatever they have has already been taxed.

If I was some Wall Street business-criminal and I was caught looting a hedge fund...
...and my prescribed penalty was to pay a 25% tax...
...I would outwardly grumble, all the while planning my next "business venture".

The super-rich have no national allegiance.

Moving Sale · Post by **Moving Sale** » Thu Sep 21, 2017 11:14 pm

schmick wrote:Income tax should be 0%

Make up your mind dolt.

smackaholic · Post by **smackaholic** » Fri Sep 22, 2017 12:41 am

Left Seater wrote:
Diego in Seattle wrote:
Left Seater wrote:Without a doubt cutting spending is the way forward.
Having cabinet secretaries fly commercially would be a great start.
Symbolically sure. In practice not so much when you consider security and other such issues. But I am all for it.

The Essential Air Service is another one that should go tomorrow in all places but for maybe Alaska. Then reduce every department's budget by 15% tomorrow.

It's just a drop in the bucket, but many of them could and should fly commercial. Same goes for flag rank officers. Those fukkers have a fleet of small jets they fly around in, or at least used to. I know this for a fact as I once had my own personal lear jet ride from homestead to Langley. It was a jet that had flown down a few chairforce generals that was returning empty, so I hitched a ride.

smackaholic · Post by **smackaholic** » Fri Sep 22, 2017 12:52 am

I would allow churches/legit charities to continue their tax free status, but I would do away with ALL deductions. No charity deductions, no mortgage deductions, no magic electric shade tree deductions. We should have progressive rates. I would start it at a token rate, maybe .25% for poor folks, maybe 20% for someone making a million/year. But, unlike the current brackets that max out at a fairly low income (relatively speaking), I would ratchet it up gradually to maybe 35% for the crazy rich, say 30mil/year. Let those liberal rich cocksuckers in hollywood that can make 50 mil/yr put their money where their mouth is.

Left Seater · Post by **Left Seater** » Fri Sep 22, 2017 4:13 am

Moving Sale wrote:At what %?
And what % of $ made last year was by the top 1%?

Again who cares? Wealth was already taxed when it was earned. But just for shits and grins an Article in the Atlantic has two different studies that estimate the top 1% earn between 18 and 23% of the income in a given year. Far below the percentage of the overall income taxes they are responsible for. The same studies estimate the 1% hold between 33% and 42% of the country's wealth. Again not surprising given they earn the most.

Clearly the 1% is paying more than their fair share given these numbers.

Moving Sale · Post by **Moving Sale** » Fri Sep 22, 2017 4:36 am

So they pay 10-20% more in taxes than they earn. Given all the extra stuff they get from the gov and the extra stuff they need to have protected it sounds about right.

Moving Sale · Post by **Moving Sale** » Fri Sep 22, 2017 4:39 am

The highest tax bracket last yr was 39%. So not sure how you paid 43%.

smackaholic · Post by **smackaholic** » Fri Sep 22, 2017 9:57 am

Moving Sale wrote:The highest tax bracket last yr was 39%. So not sure how you paid 43%.

State income, property, sales, etc, etc.

There are plenty of people out there paying half their income in various taxes.

smackaholic · Post by **smackaholic** » Fri Sep 22, 2017 10:00 am

Moving Sale wrote:....and the extra stuff they need to have protected it sounds about right.

So, the government running a mafia style protection racket is just fine then?

Screw_Michigan · Post by **Screw_Michigan** » Fri Sep 22, 2017 12:32 pm

Left Seater wrote:It was a swipe at your industry.

Everyone hates a lawyer...until they need one.