Take a Knee?

MgoBlue-LightSpecial · Sat Sep 23, 2017 4:58 pm

88 wrote:Besides that, how many NFL players redistribute their own personal wealth in the communities they claim to care about so deeply instead of spending enormous sums on big houses, cars etc. for themselves?

Many do both of those things...including the guy in your pic.

Wolfman · Post by **Wolfman** » Sat Sep 23, 2017 5:40 pm

Why is there a crowd? Isn't taking a knee in football a sign that you no longer want to score? After the law suits from concussions, there probably won't be an NFL for long.

Screw_Michigan · Post by **Screw_Michigan** » Sat Sep 23, 2017 6:11 pm

Papa Willie wrote: I think it was great what Trump said. A President calling a stupid son of a bitch a "son of a bitch" during a speech is priceless. And you can bet that most of the ones kneeling ARE sons of bitches, because they don't know who their father is. Fuck 'em. They deserve no respect.

You are truly a despicable human being. A real Trump supporter.

Dude, just say it. You hate niqqers.

Screw_Michigan · Post by **Screw_Michigan** » Sat Sep 23, 2017 6:13 pm

Papa Willie wrote:I think it was great what Trump said. A President calling a stupid son of a bitch a "son of a bitch" during a speech is priceless. And you can bet that most of the ones kneeling ARE sons of bitches, because they don't know who their father is. Fuck 'em. They deserve no respect.

Yes, because our fake president calling for dissenters to be fired is truly an honorable trait.

Used asswipes have more character and class that the worthless piece of shit in the White House.

MgoBlue-LightSpecial · Sat Sep 23, 2017 6:25 pm

Screw_Michigan wrote:You are truly a despicable human being. A real Trump supporter.

Tubby is your prototypical "I'm a libertarian who didn't vote for Trump but suck off Trump at every turn" disingenuous fucktard.

As horrific as Pickle is, at least he OWNS his Trump ballwashing.

Left Seater · Post by **Left Seater** » Sat Sep 23, 2017 6:51 pm

Screw_Michigan wrote:
Yes, because our fake president

How sad this is what your life has become.

As for the taking a knee, they have that right. NFL owners also have the right not to employ those who choose to do so.

Moving Sale · Post by **Moving Sale** » Sat Sep 23, 2017 7:55 pm

"The argument as I understand it is that no person of color can improve their lot in the United States due to racism etc."

Its like you forgot how dumb you are. Of course YOU think that is the argument. You're a stupid vile racist orange fuckhole.

Moving Sale · Post by **Moving Sale** » Sat Sep 23, 2017 7:57 pm

Left Seater wrote: As for the taking a knee, they have that right. NFL owners also have the right not to employ those who choose to do so.

Are you sure? Have you read the CBA? Or are you just talking shit as usual?

Mikey · Post by **Mikey** » Sat Sep 23, 2017 8:37 pm

Fuck Trump
Fuck the NFL
Fuck Boomer
All flaming hypocrites

Really don't GARA, anyway.

mvscal · Post by **mvscal** » Sat Sep 23, 2017 8:46 pm

I'd have to read about it in news the next day since I wouldn't be there or watching it on TV in the first place. It is pretty amusing to see Kuckernigg kick his own ass so spectacularly, though.

Moving Sale · Post by **Moving Sale** » Sat Sep 23, 2017 8:52 pm

He isn't khoa. They are called principles you nazi fuck.

Bucmonkey · Post by **Bucmonkey** » Sat Sep 23, 2017 8:58 pm

Why is this PoS even commenting anyway, his base dwindling this quickly he feels the need to? Sad... You got his back though MVPIK... /thumbsup.

#America proud

Left Seater · Post by **Left Seater** » Sat Sep 23, 2017 9:42 pm

Moving Sale wrote:
Left Seater wrote: As for the taking a knee, they have that right. NFL owners also have the right not to employ those who choose to do so.
Are you sure? Have you read the CBA? Or are you just talking shit as usual?

The CBA says zero about taking a knee during the anthem. It also allows teams to release players. Pull your head out of your ass and learn something.

Moving Sale · Post by **Moving Sale** » Sat Sep 23, 2017 10:04 pm

I'm trying to learn. That is why I asked, but you provide nothing but hot orange air.

Screw_Michigan · Post by **Screw_Michigan** » Sat Sep 23, 2017 10:17 pm

Left Seater wrote: As for the taking a knee, they have that right. NFL owners also have the right not to employ those who choose to do so.

Why do you hate political dissent?

Do you believe it is appropriate for the president to be calling for dissenters to lose their jobs?

Diego in Seattle · Post by **Diego in Seattle** » Sat Sep 23, 2017 11:03 pm

The NFL has bigger issues than "taking a knee."

Wolfman wrote:After the law suits from concussions, there probably won't be an NFL for long.

At this point I wonder how much longer football will be around. I'm doubting that it should at this point.

MsCJ · Post by **MsCJ** » Sat Sep 23, 2017 11:20 pm

Why is there such confusion about BLM?

Black Lives Matter is about Trayvon Martin and Michael Brown and hundreds of other unarmed black men killed by authority figures and trigger happy neighborhood watch guys and you just fucking name it. It's about the fact that people that kill Black Men while claiming any level of self defense whether reasonable or not are rarely ever convicted.

Why is it not OK for people with an audience to bring attention to this perceived issue?

In the immortal words of my cross eyed friend from the frozen north, the Kingsmen are out of control.

Moving Sale · Post by **Moving Sale** » Sat Sep 23, 2017 11:49 pm

MsCJ wrote: Why is it not OK for people with an audience to bring attention to this perceived issue?

MsCJ wrote: Black

Way to answer your own question.

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Sun Sep 24, 2017 12:08 am

Let's all go to our jobs, and refuse to engage in established protocols in the name of "political protest," and see how that works out.

MS can start by going into court and refusing to heed the "all rise" when the judge enters (he's likely admonished for this often, until they realize he is actually standing).

Left Seater · Post by **Left Seater** » Sun Sep 24, 2017 1:13 am

Screw_Michigan wrote:
Left Seater wrote: As for the taking a knee, they have that right. NFL owners also have the right not to employ those who choose to do so.
Why do you hate political dissent?

Do you believe it is appropriate for the president to be calling for dissenters to lose their jobs?

Stating facts is hating political dissent? Sad world you live in.

As for the President's comments, I don't really care what he says or doesn't say. Similar to the previous occupant. Anything a politician says is usually for votes. I would imagine his comments play well in military circles and among family members of those who have served.

Left Seater · Post by **Left Seater** » Sun Sep 24, 2017 1:21 am

Moving Sale wrote:I'm trying to learn. That is why I asked, but you provide nothing but hot orange air.

Next time try asking your legitimate question without an insult then. You hardly go a sentence without a cock blast so try it once in awhile and we might take you more seriously. As for sports CBA's I am quite familiar due to my previous work with hockey.

Moving Sale · Post by **Moving Sale** » Sun Sep 24, 2017 1:39 am

Dinsdale wrote:Let's all go to our jobs, and refuse to engage in established protocols in the name of "political protest," and see how that works out.

MS can start by going into court and refusing to heed the "all rise" when the judge enters (he's likely admonished for this often, until they realize he is actually standing).

Stop obssesing over my body and try an analogy that is close to the same. A sports announcer and a bailiff telling you to do some is the same.

LS,
So what section of the CBA would the owners use? It's not at will employment so what part would let them release someone who kneels?

Moving Sale · Post by **Moving Sale** » Sun Sep 24, 2017 1:41 am

Left Seater wrote:I don't really care what he says or doesn't say.

Well there's your problem.

Screw_Michigan · Post by **Screw_Michigan** » Sun Sep 24, 2017 1:45 am

Left Seater wrote:Stating facts is hating political dissent? Sad world you live in.

Players aren't exactly at-will employees, numbnuts.

ML@Coyote · Post by **ML@Coyote** » Sun Sep 24, 2017 2:16 am

When I was in eighth grade, we were expected to say the Pledge of Allegiance each morning to start off our first period class. At the time, I was fervently opposed to the Vietnam war. I refused to stand up and pledge allegiance to a flag that represented a country and its involvement in this war. My teacher didn't call me a "son of a bitch," nor did he threaten me with detention, or suspension, or even a trip to the principal's office. Instead he told me calmly that to show respect to the flag was to show respect to the thousands of patriots who had given their lives to ensure my freedom. Without their sacrifice people in our country would have no right to voice their opinions. I thought about this that night, and the next day (and every day after) I stood up for the pledge of allegiance. Yes I had the right to ignore the pledge of allegiance, but I also owed these soldiers my respect for giving me this right. Personally, I think it's okay for players to take a knee if that's what they want to do. It doesn't really bother me. But I think when they take a knee, they're missing the point of showing respect for the flag and anthem. And I think they look kind of foolish. They ought to show that they appreciate the sacrifices that have been made to protect their freedom and find a different way to voice their opinions and seek change regarding the injustices they perceive.

MsCJ · Post by **MsCJ** » Sun Sep 24, 2017 2:40 am

The Draft Dodger in Chief gets to tell us all about Patriotism in regard to the people that fought for the flag, perfect logic.

Moving Sale · Post by **Moving Sale** » Sun Sep 24, 2017 2:41 am

So she lied to you and you believed her. Gotcha.

Moving Sale · Post by **Moving Sale** » Sun Sep 24, 2017 2:44 am

MsCJ wrote:the people that fought for the flag...

Yeah that is a platoon of zero.

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Sun Sep 24, 2017 2:50 am

The Pledge of Allegiance doesn't even say anything about service members. It says, "I pledge allegiance to the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands."

Not one word about dead soldiers who died for freedom.

ML@Coyote · Post by **ML@Coyote** » Sun Sep 24, 2017 2:58 am

BSmack wrote:The Pledge of Allegiance doesn't even say anything about service members...Not one word about dead soldiers who died for freedom.

True enough. But it implies revering "liberty and justice," ideals which men have given their lives to protect. I don't think my teacher was out of line explaining it to me this way.

Moving Sale · Post by **Moving Sale** » Sun Sep 24, 2017 3:14 am

I don't give a shit what the pledge shows or doesn't show. That is not the point. What does not standing for it show? How about standing but no hand on heart? Only a child would fall for such shit.

Left Seater · Post by **Left Seater** » Sun Sep 24, 2017 3:29 am

Moving Sale wrote: So what section of the CBA would the owners use? It's not at will employment so what part would let them release someone who kneels?

Teams can release players at any time. Depending on the contract they might still owe the player money despite releasing them. All player contracts also have boiler plate language about conduct unbecoming, arrests, brand degradation, insubordination, etc. It would be difficult to void a contract for one of the above for taking a knee, but teams don't have to have a reason for releasing a player. It pretty much is at will employment.

Moving Sale · Post by **Moving Sale** » Sun Sep 24, 2017 3:35 am

But the player would still be able to invoke article 43 right?

Derron · Post by **Derron** » Sun Sep 24, 2017 4:02 am

Dinsdale wrote:Let's all go to our jobs, and refuse to engage in established protocols in the name of "political protest," and see how that works out.

MS can start by going into court and refusing to heed the "all rise" when the judge enters (he's likely admonished for this often, until they realize he is actually standing).

He wants to avoid that awkward moment when he gets 30 days for contempt and then realizes that he has to suck massive amounts of varied colors of cock of the losers who he failed to get off

in court on their charges.

mvscal · Post by **mvscal** » Sun Sep 24, 2017 4:21 am

MsCJ wrote:Why is there such confusion about BLM?

Black Lives Matter is about Trayvon Martin and Michael Brown...

Yes. Two worthless pieces of shit killed in the commission of violent crimes. Brown was working on his second violent crime in the span of ten minutes when he was put down. The world is a better and safer place without those shit bags in it.

Nobody is "confused" about BLM except maybe for dumbfucks like you.

LTS TRN 2 · Post by **LTS TRN 2** » Sun Sep 24, 2017 4:27 am

If Kaepernick could actually perform at a starting NFL QB level, he'd have been kept by the Niners. The first issue is his lack of basic skills at the top level. He can't check down receivers--he just bolts, and that's been shut down. He has no touch on soft passes, and no accuracy on the long ones. And he has no leadership qualities, being an introverted sort. As for the kneeling bullshit, this was all just a distraction on his part from the fact that his faults had been exposed and his stardom rudely derailed. His basic complaint--that black people and "people of color" were being mistreated by "American society"--is so childishly simplistic as to make one gag. It doesn't even deserve discussion. As for Trump, he calculated that he could call Kap a son of a bitch because he knows the NFL owners--something out the 19th century club of plutocrats--all agree with him. However, getting the entire NBA turned against him could be a lot worse than he (hadn't) considered.

MsCJ · Post by **MsCJ** » Sun Sep 24, 2017 4:39 am

mvscal wrote:
MsCJ wrote:Why is there such confusion about BLM?

Black Lives Matter is about Trayvon Martin and Michael Brown...
Yes. Two worthless pieces of shit killed in the commission of violent crimes. Brown was working on his second violent crime in the span of ten minutes when he was put down. The world is a better and safer place without those shit bags in it.

Nobody is "confused" about BLM except maybe for dumbfucks like you.

You can have Michael Brown as a non-sympathetic victim, Trayvon though, nope. The thing is there's hundreds and hundreds of them. It happens all the time and there doesn't seem to ever be any consequences.

Explain how Philandro Castille deserved it. Explain Tamir Rice.

Softball Bat · Post by **Softball Bat** » Sun Sep 24, 2017 4:47 am

Buc wrote:Why is this PoS even commenting anyway, his base dwindling this quickly he feels the need to?

I guess so.

Why is the sitting president holding rallies?

A sad, stupid, shitty spectacle.

Donald is clearly trying to stir shit up.
Not kool.

There is no reason for the president to weigh in on an NFL issue like this.
And certainly not in the manner he did.

The guy is a top-drawer jackass.

Moving Sale · Post by **Moving Sale** » Sun Sep 24, 2017 4:52 am

Moving Sale wrote:
MsCJ wrote: How do you explain Tamir Rice.

MsCJ wrote: Black
Way to answer your own question.

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Sun Sep 24, 2017 4:53 am

ML@Coyote wrote:
BSmack wrote:The Pledge of Allegiance doesn't even say anything about service members...Not one word about dead soldiers who died for freedom.
True enough. But it implies revering "liberty and justice," ideals which men have given their lives to protect. I don't think my teacher was out of line explaining it to me this way.

Sorry that's a logical fail. The Pledge is merely a loyalty pledge. Besides it doesn't even adhere to our constitution anymore.

What would you do?