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WASHINGTON (AP) — Facing assured defeat, Republican leaders decided Tuesday not to even hold a vote on the GOP's latest attempt to repeal the Obama health care law, surrendering on their last-gasp effort to deliver on the party's banner campaign promise.

Leaving a lunch of Republican senators who'd gathered to discuss their next steps on the issue, Sen. Pat Roberts, R-Kan., said Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., and other leaders decided that "the votes are not there, not to have the vote." Another lawmaker leaving the gathering, Sen. Jeff Flake, R-Ariz., shook his head and said, "No," when asked if a roll call would occur.

The decision marked the latest defeat on the issue for President Donald Trump and Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky. In July, the Republican-controlled Senate rejected three similar GOP measures, a failure that infuriated conservatives and prompted Trump to spend much of his summer tweeting criticism at McConnell for falling short.

One of the measure's sponsors, Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., said the GOP fight to erase President Barack Obama's 2010 health care overhaul would continue.

"We're going to get there," he said. "We're going to fulfill our promise." :lol:

Rejection became all but inevitable on Monday after Maine GOP Sen. Susan Collins announced she opposed the legislation. She joined Republican Sens. John McCain of Arizona, Rand Paul of Kentucky and Texas' Ted Cruz who'd already said they opposed the measure. Cruz aides said he was seeking changes that would let him vote yes.

Because of their narrow majority and unified Democratic opposition, Republicans can lose just two GOP votes and still push the legislation through the Senate. A vote or a decision by McConnell, R-Ky., to forego a roll call was needed this week because procedural protections against a bill-killing filibuster by Democrats expire Sunday.

In choosing whether to hold the roll call, McConnell had to pick between some Republicans arguing that lawmakers can't be seen as abandoning a pledge that Trump and countless GOP have run on, and others challenging the value of shining a fresh spotlight on their inability to pass the bill.

The abandoned bill would transform much of "Obamacare's" spending into grants that states could spend on health programs with few constraints.
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People need health insurance and any bill that excludes millions of people isn't the answer. Which is why the Republicans have never been close to passing a health care bill.

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schmick wrote:If they need it, let them buy it themselves.
Just like if you need the cops or a road or fire protection you should pay for it.
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Moving Sale wrote:
schmick wrote:If they need it, let them buy it themselves.
Just like if you need the cops or a road or fire protection you should pay for it.
We do. Thru gas taxes, and sales taxes. You were saying?
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Affordable health care has little to do with Democrats or Republicans. I recently had cataract surgery in both my eyes. The bill for the work came to $12k, It took two hours of the doc's time tops. That's about $6k/hr, which no matter how to try to justify it is fucking ridiculous. Doctors are at fault for betraying the Hippocratic Oath, and pharmaceutical corporations are at fault for charging hundreds, something thousands, of dollars for a few bucks worth of medications. Hospitals overcharge for everything. Insurance companies are raking in billions. Attorneys make malpractice insurance premiums insanely expensive. The whole thing is one big clusterfuck. But instead of going after the real culprits causing the problem, we look to politicians to figure out a way that everyone can afford this bullshit. It's like being told the new Toyota you want to buy will cost a million plus dollars, and instead of saying, "Jesus, that price is ridiculous," you try to figure out a way to come up with the money.
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schmuck wrote:If they need it, let them buy it themselves.
It's not affordable.

Duh.

As ML accurately described, the whole system is a total -----> FAIL.


Right now, the R's are a total joke.
There is no spinning that.
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Joe in PB wrote:People need health insurance and any bill that excludes millions of people isn't the answer. Which is why the Republicans have never been close to passing a health care bill.

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Oh you mean it's a lot harder passing legislation when your party controls all the levers of Congress and it's YOUR ass on the fucking line? You don't say.

Fucking PONDEROUS.
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ML@Coyote wrote:Affordable health care has little to do with Democrats or Republicans.
I'm sorry. Who, exactly, is trying to strip Obamacare? Democrats?

Again, fucking PONDEROUS.
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You are truly one of the worst pieces of shit to ever post on this board. Start giving up your paycheck for reparations now and then you can shut the fuck up about your racist blasts.
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Left Seater wrote:
Moving Sale wrote:
schmick wrote:If they need it, let them buy it themselves.
Just like if you need the cops or a road or fire protection you should pay for it.
We do. Thru gas taxes, and sales taxes. You were saying?
But yet you have a problem with paying for health care the same way. Why would you think that? Are you a sadist?
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ML,
Attys are colossal assholes. They fuck up more shit than any other single entity in the USA. Their grubby hands are in EVERY pie and they have indeed helped fuck up HC. This is not, however, due to malpractice suits. Med Mal is 2.4% of health care and the good it does providing a voice to patients is not measurable. Please try a different avenue if you feel the need to throw attys under a bus.
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It also doesn't help that I live in Orange County:

https://patch.com/california/fountainva ... f50ccee469

:waz:
How much did you actually pay?
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Joe in PB wrote: Yeah I'm the dumbass
schmick, speaking about Larry Nassar's pubescent and prepubescent victims wrote: They couldn't even kick that doctors ass

Seems they rather just lay there, get fucked and play victim
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Mikey wrote:
ML@Coyote wrote:
It also doesn't help that I live in Orange County:

https://patch.com/california/fountainva ... f50ccee469

:waz:
How much did you actually pay?
I don't remember exactly. It was four years ago. I think I paid about $5k for the first eye, and maybe $2k for the second one. My insurance paid for the rest.

Did just have the same surgery done on my dog. Both eyes were $6k. No insurance. But he did get a free dog biscuit every time we visited the doctor's office.
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Softball Bat wrote:
Right now, the R's are a total joke.
There is no spinning that.
In your little world. Conservatives are laughing at the liberals as they spin and melt in to little puddles of bleeding pussy juice. Trump trolls the liberals, they shit all over themselves, hammer out nonsensical takes all over the internet, complain how unfair it is and shout for impeachment, call all conservatives racists, while the liberal media pours gas on every story they can, further whipping the liberals into their melting frenzy.

In the meantime the economy just keeps kicking ass with business confidence higher than ever.
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Papa Willie wrote:
Moving Sale wrote:ML,
Attys are colossal assholes. They fuck up more shit than any other single entity in the USA. Their grubby hands are in EVERY pie and they have indeed helped fuck up HC. This is not, however, due to malpractice suits. Med Mal is 2.4% of health care and the good it does providing a voice to patients is not measurable. Please try a different avenue if you feel the need to throw attys under a bus.
Had a friend that was an OBGyn. He retired 10 years ago. He was paying around $100k per year in malpractice insurance. Why do you think his rates were so high?
He probably wasn't very good at his job. I mean, he's your friend. The bar's going to be kind of low.
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schmick, speaking about Larry Nassar's pubescent and prepubescent victims wrote: They couldn't even kick that doctors ass

Seems they rather just lay there, get fucked and play victim
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Derron wrote:In your little world. Conservatives are laughing at the liberals as they spin and melt in to little puddles of bleeding pussy juice. Trump trolls the liberals, they shit all over themselves, hammer out nonsensical takes all over the internet, complain how unfair it is and shout for impeachment, call all conservatives racists, while the liberal media pours gas on every story they can, further whipping the liberals into their melting frenzy.

In the meantime the economy just keeps kicking ass with business confidence higher than ever.
None of this has to do with the R's FAILURE to repeal and replace Barrycare.

After 7+ years of crying about the ACA, and now with the presidency + house and senate majorities, they are unable to get that done.

Politically, it is one of THE most embarrassing things I have ever seen.

What the hell do they need?

LOL




Is the economy kicking ass?

Really?



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Moving Sale wrote:
Left Seater wrote:
Moving Sale wrote: Just like if you need the cops or a road or fire protection you should pay for it.
We do. Thru gas taxes, and sales taxes. You were saying?
But yet you have a problem with paying for health care the same way. Why would you think that? Are you a sadist?
Single payer is just a way to shift the burden onto others. Why stop at health care? Why not have taxes pay for housing and vacations and tickets to shows and sporting events?
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Derron wrote: In your little world. Conservatives are laughing at the liberals as they spin and melt in to little puddles of bleeding pussy juice. Trump trolls the liberals, they shit all over themselves, hammer out nonsensical takes all over the internet, complain how unfair it is and shout for impeachment, call all conservatives racists, while the liberal media pours gas on every story they can, further whipping the liberals into their melting frenzy.

In the meantime the economy just keeps kicking ass with business confidence higher than ever.
Trump and the GOP haven't accomplished anything other than culture war red mean. To Duhhron, trolling liberals = success.

No wonder this country is so fucked.
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You are truly one of the worst pieces of shit to ever post on this board. Start giving up your paycheck for reparations now and then you can shut the fuck up about your racist blasts.
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Left Seater wrote: Single payer is just a way to shift the burden onto others. Why stop at health care? Why not have taxes pay for housing and vacations and tickets to shows and sporting events?
You aren't really this ignorant in real life, are you? I pray that this is an act.
kcdave wrote: Sat Sep 09, 2023 8:05 am
I was actually going to to join in the best bets activity here at good ole T1B...The guy that runs that contest is a fucking prick
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You are truly one of the worst pieces of shit to ever post on this board. Start giving up your paycheck for reparations now and then you can shut the fuck up about your racist blasts.
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Left Seater wrote:
Moving Sale wrote:
Left Seater wrote:We do. Thru gas taxes, and sales taxes. You were saying?
But yet you have a problem with paying for health care the same way. Why would you think that? Are you a sadist?
Single payer is just a way to shift the burden onto others. Why stop at health care? Why not have taxes pay for housing and vacations and tickets to shows and sporting events?
Why do our taxes go to people in hurricane-prone states after storms? It's just shifting the burden onto others....
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How much of your tax dollars are going to hurricane relief? Do you know the percentage? Do you have an itemized breakdown?

How much of your charitable dollars are going to hurricane relief? Do you know the percentage? Do you have an itemized breakdown?
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Screw_Michigan wrote:No wonder this country is so fucked.
What's keeping you here?
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America: love it or leave it? Is that your false dicot of the day?
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The reason why any Republican Bill will fail is because Trump could care less how many Americans he throws under the bus. I doubt he's going to run for re-election. He's yet to realize that other Republicans in Congress are not short term thinkers and actually want to be re-elected.

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Softball Bat wrote: Right now, the R's are a total joke.
There is no spinning that.
Indeed. They spent 7 years stoutly fighting against Ofailurecare and promising a repeal...until they were actually given the opportunity to do so by T$. Nobody has done more to pull back the curtain on the uniparty puppet show than Trump.
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Moving Sale wrote:ML
America: love it or leave it? Is that your false dicot of the day?
I love my wife and kids. Are there things I would like so see them change? Sure there are. But I don't say they're "fucked."
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ML@Coyote wrote:
Moving Sale wrote:ML
America: love it or leave it? Is that your false dicot of the day?
I love my wife and kids. Are there things I would like so see them change? Sure there are. But I don't say they're "fucked."
What exactly do you want your wife and kids to change? Their skivvies?
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I think he wants them to get "fucked."
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Goober: :grin:
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schmick wrote:Let owebamacare fail, all the Republicans have to do is get out of the way, allow the mandates to be over turned in the courts and government healthcare will crush under its own bureaucratic weight.
If that's all they need to do, why are they sabotoging ACA?
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Diego in Seattle wrote:
schmick wrote:Let owebamacare fail, all the Republicans have to do is get out of the way, allow the mandates to be over turned in the courts and government healthcare will crush under its own bureaucratic weight.
If that's all they need to do, why are they sabotoging ACA?
It was designed to fail. It was just a hook. Single payer is the objective.
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schmick wrote:They're not.
Cutting the enrollment period from 90 days to 45, slashing the advertising budget, and taking the website down on 3 days during that 45 day period.

No, they're not hamstringing the ACA at all.... :meds:
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schmick wrote:Now they need to get rid of the mandates
Not necessary. You just stop enforcing the mandate which is what is being done. Pen and phone. Pretty cool, huh?
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mvscal wrote:Indeed. They spent 7 years stoutly fighting against Ofailurecare and promising a repeal...until they were actually given the opportunity to do so by T$. Nobody has done more to pull back the curtain on the uniparty puppet show than Trump.
LMAO!

News flash for idiot...


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mvscal wrote: Indeed. They spent 7 years stoutly fighting against Ofailurecare and promising a repeal...until they were actually given the opportunity to do so by T$. Nobody has done more to pull back the curtain on the uniparty puppet show than Trump.
Trump has been promising repeal of Obummercare since 1-21-17 (while, I'll remind you, promising everyone "the best" health care during his campaign) and he can't even be bothered to lift a fucking finger to make it happen. He'd rather spend critical days taking photo ops inside fire trucks than convincing on the fence legislatures to vote for his pile of shit.

He's as big of a failure as you.
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You are truly one of the worst pieces of shit to ever post on this board. Start giving up your paycheck for reparations now and then you can shut the fuck up about your racist blasts.
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