A Scout is trustworthy, loyal, helpful.......

[smackaholic]

...and a chick?

I know a few of you fukks have been involved in BSA.

What is your take on their latest statement that they will take girls in the cub scouts and provide a path to achieve the crown jewel of scouting, the rank of Eagle Scout?

As a Scout leader (admittedly rather absent these days with work obligations) and proud Eagle Scout dad, I have mixed feelings. It is yet another case of chicks busting into the he man woman haters clubhouse, which sucks, but I can see the argument that girl's version doesn't have the same prestige. The OL has the obligatory "My son is an Eagle Scout" bumper stickers plastered all over our cars, but I have never seen a single "my daughter is a gold award recipient" bumpersticker.

From what I have read about it, they are opening up the cub scouts immediately and to be honest I don't see a big deal with this as the cub scouts are pretty freaking lame.

In fact, CB started the cub scouts at the typical age , 6 or 7 and after a year of it, we agreed it was lame and we'd give it a try again when he was old enough to be a boy scout. I blinked and then he was getting ready to start HS and said, hey CB, if you are still interested in Scouts, might be a good idea to start now. So he did. I always break his balls about being the only Tenderfoot in the history of Scouts that could grow a respectable beard. Fortunately he was lucky to have an awesome troop with as many very active leaders as scouts, he made it to Eagle with about 3 days to spare before he turned 18.

What I am uncertain about is what exactly will happen with kids in the boy scout age range? Will troops fully integrate? I suspect they will eventually.

This may cause some kids to bail. It will also cause some to stay, especially if there are girls in the troop with nice tits.

[BSmack]

I think Randy Moss summed it up best. More potential members equals more sales of Boy Scout / Cub Scout merchandise equals...

[smackaholic]

Yup.

The Scouts have had declining numbers over the last few decades. This, at its core is about getting numbers up. Whether or not it will, remans to be seen.

Does this mean Boy Scouts will be able to get in on the cookie racket?

While the Boy Scouts have 'bode concerning rank prestige, they are way behind in the marketing department. Nobody wants that horribly overpriced popcorn.

[Softball Bat]

It's interesting that a simple term like boy can be so difficult for some to understand.


Boy Scouts.





Duh!

[Goober McTuber]

Might make the camping a lot more fun.

[Rooster]

Two questions: Does any parent even sign their child up for the Scouts any longer? And if so, why would you risk having your child groomed by an openly gay Scout Leader? The whole Scouting organization lost its' way once they obliterated the foundation upon which they were formed.

[Mikey]

Two questions: Does any parent even sign their child up for the Scouts any longer? And if so, why would you risk having your child groomed by an openly gay Scout Leader? The whole Scouting organization lost its' way once they obliterated the foundation upon which they were formed.

If you don't like the Scout Master you can always join a different troop.
Maybe that concept involves too high a level of abstraction for your PTSD damaged intellect to comprehend, though.

[smackaholic]

Two questions: Does any parent even sign their child up for the Scouts any longer? And if so, why would you risk having your child groomed by an openly gay Scout Leader? The whole Scouting organization lost its' way once they obliterated the foundation upon which they were formed.

Rooster,

When I became a leader, I discovered what lengths BSA went through to fix the molesting leader problem. They have some pretty well thought out policies. A leader can never be alone with a scout unless the scout is his son. This makes it awfully difficult to have an issue unless you have collusion among leaders.


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[Rooster]

Ok, I can accept that at face value, smackie, but still, as an organization to give their blessing to homos running scout troops is much like putting Harvey Weinstein in charge of the Girl Scouts and always keeping one of his fixers, err, administrative assistants in the room to make sure everything is on the up-and-up.

Gays groom their prey. And putting gays in positions of power over young boys and men where relationships are formed, that is a recipe for disaster.

[MgoBlue-LightSpecial]

As a man, choosing to spend your free time around groups of young boys (or kids in general) is inherently abnormal behavior. It is a huge red flag at best.

[Moving Sale]

Gays groom their prey. And putting gays in positions of power over young boys and men where relationships are formed, that is a recipe for disaster.

You really are retarded.

[Moving Sale]

As a man, choosing to spend your free time around groups of young boys (or kids in general) is inherently abnormal behavior. It is a huge red flag at best.

Yeah teaching is women's work.
Good fucking grief.

[MgoBlue-LightSpecial]

As a man, choosing to spend your free time around groups of young boys (or kids in general) is inherently abnormal behavior. It is a huge red flag at best.

Yeah teaching is women's work.
Good fucking grief.

I'm just sayin', grown ass men who "enjoy working with kids" ... you gotta keep an eye on those fuckers.

[MgoBlue-LightSpecial]

Gays groom their prey.

This doesn't seem like something that can be quantified through any means other than personal experience.

[MgoBlue-LightSpecial]

Do tell.

[Screw_Michigan]

Oh my - another liberal turning around and using homosexuality as an insult.

He's neither liberal nor using gay sex as an insult.

Make love to a sausage grinder

[Derron]

As a man, choosing to spend your free time around groups of young boys (or kids in general) is inherently abnormal behavior. It is a huge red flag at best.

Sounds like you got fucked up the ass a few too many times to realize, that it is actually possible for moral adults to do exactly that.

[Derron]

I was not a Boy Scout in my youth, but did some coed groups like 4H, FFA and Civil Air Patrol. All the groups taught good values and other skills, and as we aged into the older levels of the group, you can be damn sure the boys and girls got together. The adult leaders tried to monitor that as much as possible, but when there is a will there will be a way. Those overnight CAP survival treks, the 4H summer camps and the various contest trips for FFA all were more fun than the activity themselves for damn sure.

[Innocent Bystander]

I was a Girl Scout, a Tagalong with the Boy Scouts and did the 4H thing because it was the Midwest and that's what certain kids did at a certain age, even little black kids from the city.

I never got a chance to join Future Farmers of America. Could have been interesting. Could have been a nightmare.

Boy Scouts and Girl Scouts have different goals. Keep Boys for boys, Girls for girls, but create a third organization combining the best of both.

[Innocent Bystander]

I was not a Boy Scout in my youth, but did some coed groups like 4H, FFA and Civil Air Patrol. All the groups taught good values and other skills, and as we aged into the older levels of the group, you can be damn sure the boys and girls got together. The adult leaders tried to monitor that as much as possible, but when there is a will there will be a way. Those overnight CAP survival treks, the 4H summer camps and the various contest trips for FFA all were more fun than the activity themselves for damn sure.

If the adults really cared, you'd be segregated from one another. Your adults didn't care.

What's Civil Air Patrol? Sounds Cold War.

[smackaholic]

I earned my Eagle Scout badge when Jimmy Carter was President. Back then, the requirements were well-defined. Now, not so much. Back then, you had to be able to swim and meet other physical requirements. Now, you just have to try to get your hair wet (assuming you have hair) and think about maybe hiking in the icky woods, maybe.

I started my kids in Cub Scouts when they were of the right age. But the soul has been ripped out of scouting. And when they complained that it was the ghey, I did not protest them quitting.

They can let in girls and march under rainbow flags for all I care. It was a great program that taught self-reliance and instilled confidence in young men when I was active in the program. Now, I don't think it amounts to much more than a squirrel fart in a fag hurricane.

You are right about it being gheyed up a bit as has everything else in life. And cub scouts kinda is a double helping of ghey which was why CB bailed on it, but Boy Scouts is heavily dependent on your local troop. We have a great troop. A lot of leaders with a lot of experience. We have one old dude, Willie, an old german guy that was the troop leader, back in the 70s. He is about 80 now, acts more like 40. A number of the other leaders have been active with the troop for over 20 years.

They say the same thing about how it ain't what it once was, but they do their best to try to run it like the old days.

[BSmack]

It all depends on the Pack. My son's Cub Scout Pack is probably the most active scouting organization I've ever laid eyes on. They're constantly doing camping and field trips. There are times when we go months at a time where every weekend there is an available Cub Scout activity. It's almost too much but my son loves it.

Just next month he's going to go do some winter camping which will involve sleeping in a tent in the middle of the New York November. It's not proper winter camping but for 9 year olds that's close enough.

[smackaholic]

That's awesome, B. Even our boy scout troop fagged out when it comes to real winter camping. I tried to get some interest in some no shit, middle of the winter camping, but the only camping we did during the real winter months was cabin campouts with wood stoves. The scoutmaster and myself did campout outside at one of these and CB did in my tent the following night, but there were no other takers. Winter backpacking is a blast...if you know what you are doing.

I didn't do Scouts as a kid, but I did belong to my HS's backpacking club and we did a few 5 day winter backpacking trips to the Adirondacks. We had 2 awesome advisors and a very active club during the years I was there. One year, there was so much snow, trail following became difficult as many blazes were beneath the snow.

But that was during the "ohhh, fukk, an ice age is coming" years. I am certain today they backpack in shorts and a wifebeater in January.

[MgoBlue-LightSpecial]

As a man, choosing to spend your free time around groups of young boys (or kids in general) is inherently abnormal behavior. It is a huge red flag at best.

Sports coaches?

Exception to the rule.

[MgoBlue-LightSpecial]

As a man, choosing to spend your free time around groups of young boys (or kids in general) is inherently abnormal behavior. It is a huge red flag at best.

Sounds like you got fucked up the ass a few too many times to realize, that it is actually possible for moral adults to do exactly that.

No, I just realize that any normal red-blooded American male wants to spend his weekends chasing women, getting drunk, watching college football, traveling, going to concerts, and doing outdoors stuff...not spending time with a bunch of kids that aren't your own. It's weird.

[Moving Sale]

Yeah mentoring disadvantaged kids is stupid. Big brothers? All pedos. Coaches? Counselors? Teachers? All pedos.

[smackaholic]

Sounds like Mgo had a bad scout encounter.

We're not all like that, Mgo.

[MgoBlue-LightSpecial]

Yeah mentoring disadvantaged kids is stupid. Big brothers? All pedos. Coaches? Counselors? Teachers? All pedos.

Who said all that? Way to go to the extreme.

[MgoBlue-LightSpecial]

Sounds like Mgo had a bad scout encounter.

We're not all like that, Mgo.

Negative. I quit Cub Scouts pretty early on to play sports and get into trouble with my friends.

[Rooster]

I get how organizations that specifically cater to a particular demographic or niche is useful and plays a role in children's lives. And I understand how adults have a need to provide direction and mentoring to young people, particularly to those who have no steady mature adult in their lives. For that I highly commend Smackie. You are proving a surrogate parent role to kids who really need one.

However, I do not understand the whole need to gay shit up by allowing openly homo counselors run stuff. It's like hiring an alcoholic to run your liquor store. Yeah, yeah, I'm a dinosaur who still thinks being a fag is deviant and a mental disease. So sue me. But in my estimation the whole gay agenda thing is parallel to the whole diversity/inclusiveness thing-- pointless and useless. The end result is the destruction of what was a solid organization which played a major role in shaping young people's' lives for the better.

[Moving Sale]

Yeah mentoring disadvantaged kids is stupid. Big brothers? All pedos. Coaches? Counselors? Teachers? All pedos.

Who said all that? Way to go to the extreme.

It's included in the stuff you find creepy. Face it, your stance is wack. You made a mistake. Just own it and move on.

[Moving Sale]

You are not just a dinosaur rooster you are also an idiot. Straights and Gays are equal opportunity molesters.

[Dinsdale]

Gotta go with MGO on this one. A grown man preferring the company of children is quite suspect.

Certainly not all of those creepy fucks mentors are kiddy-diddlers. But if you don't think they're hitting at a MUCH higher batting average than the normal folk, you are seriously deluded.

[Moving Sale]

Most diddlers diddle family members and close friends kids. Much more likely to be diddled by someone you know from within your household. So if you want to link me up with some math to prove your point go right ahead.

[Rooster]

You are not just a dinosaur rooster you are also an idiot. Straights and Gays are equal opportunity molesters.

I don't doubt that heterosexuals and homosexuals are equal opportunity molesters, abusers, rapists, deviants, and perverts. That is the basic nature of mankind (although Progressivism believes that humans are basically good and continually improving despite all evidence to the contrary). But placing homos in a position of opportunity and power over their preferred prey, is like, as I said in my previous post, putting an alcoholic in charge of the liquor store.

[Moving Sale]

Like I said you are an idiot. Your conclusion doesn't follow from your premise and your anology is shit.

[Derron]

If the adults really cared, you'd be segregated from one another. Your adults didn't care.

What's Civil Air Patrol? Sounds Cold War.

We were segregated during the evening and overnight times with adult supervision close by. But not close enough since both the girls and boys came up with ways to get together. Maybe sneak some booze and weed in too. If you did not experience that kind of youthful fun, then you missed out.

Civil Air Patrol was not for sissy's. Lots of great training at a young age, survival training, learning to fly aircraft, learn communications and navigation skills, and meeting girls.

http://www.gocivilairpatrol.com/cap_home/youth/

[BSmack]

That's awesome, B. Even our boy scout troop fagged out when it comes to real winter camping. I tried to get some interest in some no shit, middle of the winter camping, but the only camping we did during the real winter months was cabin campouts with wood stoves. The scoutmaster and myself did campout outside at one of these and CB did in my tent the following night, but there were no other takers. Winter backpacking is a blast...if you know what you are doing.

I didn't do Scouts as a kid, but I did belong to my HS's backpacking club and we did a few 5 day winter backpacking trips to the Adirondacks. We had 2 awesome advisors and a very active club during the years I was there. One year, there was so much snow, trail following became difficult as many blazes were beneath the snow.

But that was during the "ohhh, fukk, an ice age is coming" years. I am certain today they backpack in shorts and a wifebeater in January.

They certainly aren't doing that in shorts and a wife beater in the Adirondacks. But the last time I went winter camping with the pack it was actually pretty warm. I discovered about half of the real intense cold weather gear we brought was pretty unnecessary. Of course if we hadn't brought it there would have been two feet of snow.

[smackaholic]

Damnit, Mgo, you're making MS look like a decent human being.

Knock it off.


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