Texas Church shootings

Left Seater · Post by **Left Seater** » Mon Nov 06, 2017 12:00 am

Sad. My wife knows a few folks that work at her company who have places down there.

Unfortunately most churches here are “gun free.” No word if this one was or wasn’t but it would have been hard to kill so many if someone else had a gun.

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Mon Nov 06, 2017 12:28 am

It would have been even harder for that guy to kill someone if he didn't have a gun to begin with.

Bucmonkey · Post by **Bucmonkey** » Mon Nov 06, 2017 12:39 am

Ban all Muslims...Trump should be chiming in shortly with the answer...

Screw_Michigan · Post by **Screw_Michigan** » Mon Nov 06, 2017 12:48 am

Left Seater wrote: Unfortunately most churches here are “gun free.” No word if this one was or wasn’t but it would have been hard to kill so many if someone else had a gun.

#1 you have no clue (as usual) whether or not this church was "gun free"

#2 your first instinct is to blame the church. You're a class act, as always.

Screw_Michigan · Post by **Screw_Michigan** » Mon Nov 06, 2017 12:50 am

When are are the good White Christians going to stand up against the bad ones?

When will White America stand up against white on white violence?

MgoBlue-LightSpecial · Mon Nov 06, 2017 1:23 am

schmick wrote:I hope all the dead were astro fans

Jerry Garcia was probly a Giants fan.

smackaholic · Post by **smackaholic** » Mon Nov 06, 2017 1:24 am

Screwey, you're a fukking moron.

B, he could killed as many or more using other implements.

Too bad there weren't others armed there.

Gun free zones are a joke.

Screw_Michigan · Post by **Screw_Michigan** » Mon Nov 06, 2017 1:32 am

smackaholic wrote: Gun free zones are a joke.

Got any proof this church was a "gun free zone?" If so, show it. If not, go fuck yourself. Go fuck yourself, in general.

Diego in Seattle · Post by **Diego in Seattle** » Mon Nov 06, 2017 1:38 am

I guess we can stop spending money on the military, as "thoughts & prayers" are all that are needed according to the GOP...

Left Seater · Post by **Left Seater** » Mon Nov 06, 2017 1:50 am

BSmack wrote:It would have been even harder for that guy to kill someone if he didn't have a gun to begin with.

So only the government, police and criminals should have guns? No thanks. I will keep mine thank you.

Left Seater · Post by **Left Seater** » Mon Nov 06, 2017 1:55 am

Screw_Michigan wrote:
Left Seater wrote: Unfortunately most churches here are “gun free.” No word if this one was or wasn’t but it would have been hard to kill so many if someone else had a gun.
#1 you have no clue (as usual) whether or not this church was "gun free"

#2 your first instinct is to blame the church. You're a class act, as always.

Go back and read my quote. I said I had no idea if this church did or didn’t allow guns. Then you double down on your response to Holic who was talking in general and not about this specific Church. Your reading comp sucks worse than your takes.

2nd nice straw man. I didn’t and don’t blame the Church in any way. This is all on the criminal. You really aren’t good at this.

Wolfman · Post by **Wolfman** » Mon Nov 06, 2017 2:15 am

It would have been even harder for that guy to kill someone if he didn't have a gun to begin with.
No shit---he'd just rent a truk and drive it into the church. Arm yourselves and save your family. Works for the elite.

Mikey · Post by **Mikey** » Mon Nov 06, 2017 2:49 am

Time to start sending white Protestant males to Gitmo as a precaution.

Moving Sale · Post by **Moving Sale** » Mon Nov 06, 2017 3:16 am

Shooter appears to have dropped his AR and fled when met with return fire. Found dead later either from the return fire or self inflicted wound.

Derron · Post by **Derron** » Mon Nov 06, 2017 4:01 am

Left Seater wrote:
Unfortunately most churches here are “gun free.” No word if this one was or wasn’t but it would have been hard to kill so many if someone else had a gun.

This is surprising in Texas. Gun free ?? WTF does that mean anyway? There is a very popular church in town that has a large congregation of people. Several police officers and armed citizens attend each of the 3 Sunday services. They know each other carries guns, the pastors know and approve and they train for such a situation. They sit in different areas, they have no cross fire zones, there is an usher on the cameras with radios to the others. Anybody fucks with this church and they will end up very dead. They will pray for the bad guys soul after he is dead and the threat eliminated.

If some one goes to a church and leaves your weapon at home because it is a "gun free" zone then they are idiots. I do not go places that are "gun free". Take that back..I do go there and I carry a gun, sometimes 2 guns and I do not give a fuck. Concealed is concealed. Never been made in 20 years of concealed carry.

A tweet I saw said it was an Airforce airman, and he had a vest on. I was at a charity dinner tonight for a local non profit, about 100 people there. There was at least 5 concealed weapons on private citizens there that I know of, and 2 police officers there including the Chief of Police. Perps pick soft targets and a church is pretty soft.

Derron · Post by **Derron** » Mon Nov 06, 2017 4:04 am

BSmack wrote:It would have been even harder for that guy to kill someone if he didn't have a gun to begin with.

National statistics also say that about 90 people were killed in automobile crashes in the US today and at least 10 of those were involving DUI drivers.

I think there needs to be controls and laws against car crashes and DUI drivers.

Mikey · Post by **Mikey** » Mon Nov 06, 2017 4:06 am

Derron wrote:

I think there needs to be laws against DUI drivers.

Where the fuck do you live?

Moving Sale · Post by **Moving Sale** » Mon Nov 06, 2017 4:06 am

I go into gun free zones all the time. They are called prisons and jails. I also go to places where only cops have guns. They are called courts.

Mikey · Post by **Mikey** » Mon Nov 06, 2017 4:06 am

I figured in Texas that a "gun free" zone meant they give away free guns.

Derron · Post by **Derron** » Mon Nov 06, 2017 4:07 am

Diego in Seattle wrote:I guess we can stop spending money on the military, as "thoughts & prayers" are all that are needed according to the GOP...

Is there nothing in this world that you cannot spin some kind of Trump, GOP, conservative slant on ??

Derron · Post by **Derron** » Mon Nov 06, 2017 4:09 am

Mikey wrote:
Derron wrote:

I think there needs to be laws against DUI drivers.

Where the fuck do you live?

My bad. I guess I need to put the [sarcasm] tag on my post so you can understand it.

Moving Sale · Post by **Moving Sale** » Mon Nov 06, 2017 4:13 am

Derron wrote:
BSmack wrote:It would have been even harder for that guy to kill someone if he didn't have a gun to begin with.
National statistics also say that about 90 people were killed in automobile crashes in the US today and at least 10 of those were involving DUI drivers.

I think there needs to be controls and laws against car crashes and DUI drivers.

Define "involving" please.

Joe in PB · Post by **Joe in PB** » Mon Nov 06, 2017 4:20 am

Derron wrote:
BSmack wrote:It would have been even harder for that guy to kill someone if he didn't have a gun to begin with.
National statistics also say that about 90 people were killed in automobile crashes in the US today and at least 10 of those were involving DUI drivers.

Another 30 were killed by distracted drivers on their phones. Get rid of all cell phones, &/or send those who get caught to Gitmo?

Derron · Post by **Derron** » Mon Nov 06, 2017 4:26 am

Moving Sale wrote:
Derron wrote:
BSmack wrote:It would have been even harder for that guy to kill someone if he didn't have a gun to begin with.
National statistics also say that about 90 people were killed in automobile crashes in the US today and at least 10 of those were involving DUI drivers.

I think there needs to be controls and laws against car crashes and DUI drivers.
Define "involving" please.

Trolling for more clients to rip off ??

Moving Sale · Post by **Moving Sale** » Mon Nov 06, 2017 4:29 am

No just asking you to back up your claim.

Mikey · Post by **Mikey** » Mon Nov 06, 2017 4:38 am

Joe in PB wrote:
Derron wrote:
BSmack wrote:It would have been even harder for that guy to kill someone if he didn't have a gun to begin with.
National statistics also say that about 90 people were killed in automobile crashes in the US today and at least 10 of those were involving DUI drivers.
Another 30 were killed by distracted drivers on their phones. Get rid of all cell phones, &/or send those who get caught to Gitmo?

I'd be down with the Gitmo option.

It's easy to tell some cell phone drivers. You come up behind them on a surface street and they're going 5 - 10 mph slower than the traffic and they can't seem to hold a straight line. 9 out of 10 they're texting.

smackaholic · Post by **smackaholic** » Mon Nov 06, 2017 12:06 pm

So it is confirmed now.

A citizen, with a firearm, put an end to this POS.

Rack him and rack the 2rd Amendment.

Would have been nice if some of those folks in the church were armed as well.

Softball Bat · Post by **Softball Bat** » Mon Nov 06, 2017 12:21 pm

smackaholic wrote:Would have been nice if some of those folks in the church were armed as well.

Yeah, wonderful.

Time to worship the Lord.

Bring your...

Bible
Hymnal
Firearm

Mikey · Post by **Mikey** » Mon Nov 06, 2017 1:37 pm

smackaholic wrote:So it is confirmed now.

A citizen, with a firearm, put an end to this POS.

Rack him and rack the 2rd Amendment.

Would have been nice if some of those folks in the church were armed as well.

Yeah that would have been way cool if a dozen or so armed rednecks had opened fire in the church. Then there probably would be 40 or 50 Baptists on their way to meet their maker.

Hallelujah!!!

BTW what kind of heat are you packing around town these days?

Diego in Seattle · Post by **Diego in Seattle** » Mon Nov 06, 2017 2:18 pm

After Harvey Weinstein was outed as a sexual predator Dem politicians gave away the money that Weinstein had given to them.

So will we see GOP politicians do the same?

Yeah, right!

Screw_Michigan · Post by **Screw_Michigan** » Mon Nov 06, 2017 2:47 pm

smackaholic wrote:So it is confirmed now.

A citizen, with a firearm, put an end to this POS.

Rack him and rack the 2rd Amendment.

Would have been nice if some of those folks in the church were armed as well.

Anyway, where's your evidence the church was a "gun free" zone?

Left Seater · Post by **Left Seater** » Mon Nov 06, 2017 2:49 pm

Weinstein donated to the GOP and GOP candidates? Link?

Screw_Michigan · Post by **Screw_Michigan** » Mon Nov 06, 2017 3:05 pm

Left Seater wrote:Weinstein donated to the GOP and GOP candidates? Link?

I never made such an accusation. Suckaholic said the church was a "gun free zone." Waiting for the proof....

Diego in Seattle · Post by **Diego in Seattle** » Mon Nov 06, 2017 3:19 pm

Screw_Michigan wrote:
Left Seater wrote:Weinstein donated to the GOP and GOP candidates? Link?
I never made such an accusation. Suckaholic said the church was a "gun free zone." Waiting for the proof....

Left Behinder failed in the logic department.

I was referring to the GOP sucking at the teat of those who block common sense gun control laws.

Joe in PB · Post by **Joe in PB** » Mon Nov 06, 2017 3:34 pm

Ever notice that these types of mentally ill/hyper depressed people are not ill enough to pick a target like a shooting range? They know it would only be a few seconds before there was return fire.

Gun free zones are and invitation for this type of violence.

And rack the good samaritan who ended it asap.

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Screw_Michigan · Post by **Screw_Michigan** » Mon Nov 06, 2017 4:13 pm

Joe in PB wrote: Gun free zones are and invitation for this type of violence.

Again...provide evidence the church was a "gun free zone." Or STFU. Better yet, STFU anyway.

Joe in PB · Post by **Joe in PB** » Mon Nov 06, 2017 4:19 pm

So angry all the time Screwy, your nic says it all, I'm a Bitterman. I can only imagine you're a buzz kill and downer to be around in real life. That's very sad for someone so young.

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Screw_Michigan · Post by **Screw_Michigan** » Mon Nov 06, 2017 4:24 pm

So you want permission to throw around unsubstantiated claims without being challenged. Must be hard for a knuckle dragging troglodyte to back up unfounded accusations without proof.

Mikey · Post by **Mikey** » Mon Nov 06, 2017 4:25 pm

Screw_Michigan wrote:So you want permission to throw around unsubstantiated claims without being challenged. Must be hard for a knuckle dragging troglodyte to back up unfounded accusations without proof.

Welcome to T1B.

Joe in PB · Post by **Joe in PB** » Mon Nov 06, 2017 4:28 pm

I never made any claims Mr Bitterman.

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