Russian Airliner Crashes--No Debris Anywhere!!!

[LTS TRN 2]

Oh, my bad...in fact there's lots of debris all over the site, including lots of bodies, luggage, chunks of the plane itself, both black boxes, etc.


Sure, here's another actual crash of an airliner--this was in India..


Yeah, it's only the totally FAKE crashes, like at Shankesville on 9/11, where a "plane crash" leaves nothing but a (bomb crater) hole with no debris, bodies, black boxes, or anything at all


It's a bomb crater, not a crash site of flight 93, a 757..(though it does look like a steamy cunt--of America itself--having been totally fucked by the neocon menace)


Of course totally disgusting frauds like Fake Seater (who claims to be a "pilot") will insist that the "soft loam" at the Shankesville site just somehow swallowed the entire massive airliner, leaving nothing--no debris, no bodies, no black boxes. And You'll believe this twaddle? You'll believe a slimy fraud like him? Really?

[BSmack]

trots

[LTS TRN 2]

Now why would you suggest that, Smackie? Have you got a little problem dealing with reality? A little problem with your cognitive dissonance of believing the howling lie of the official 9/11 story? Sure, it's discomforting to realize we've been lied to and played like a giant dumb puppet by the sleazy and incomparable criminality of the Likud and its PNAC minions. But hey, put on some Doobie Brothers, have a Bud Lite, and rub one out to a video of Omarosa

Insert your 757 right here, big boy..the truth is waitin' for ya

[smackaholic]

You keep ignoring the single substantial difference here.

Most plane crashes are not done on purpose. They are flown by people, actually trying to keep them in the air. These crashes are low speed and typically flying close to level.

In such a crash, the plane breaks into relatively large chunks.

The 911 plane was augered in, throttles likely pushed to ludicrous speed. As you can tell from the photo, it hit at something damn close to perpendicular to the ground. It hit harder than your prostate gets hit at the NBA allstar after game party. In such a crash, it is understandable that there isn't an identifiable debris field. All the debris is tiny bits in the crater.

[LTS TRN 2]

Absolute bullshit, but nice try. There's no evidence whatsoever that's been presented to suggest anything about how the 757 supposedly crashed. You're completely assuming--and doing so in complete accordance with the already offered narrative. Are you kidding? And regardless, if a 757 crashed straight into the ground, there would be still be lots of debris. Your assumption is false regardless. "Tiny bits"? It's the same nonsense as suggesting that the pentagon 757 just "vaporized" (despite penetrating three rings of the massive, recently reinforced walls. Total bullshit. How do you look in the mirror? Look at the photos, and the videos from the air shortly after the "crash" at Shankesville. Nothing at all. And why wouldn't any of the hundreds of tons of debris buried in the "soft loam" have been recovered? How about the indestructible black boxes? Despite claims of their recovery, there's never been a single release of ANY of the supposed recovered black boxes from any of the planes. Are you even aware that the ludicrous official story claims that ALL of the black boxes have been recovered? Are you aware of the actual official story for the collapse of WTC 7? Seriously, are you actually aware what that NIST report says? Of course you're not. Of course you're in total denial--cognitive dissonance--of the obvious falsity of the entire official narrative. The real question is ...why? Why be such a coward? Why be such a fraud? Why lie to yourself and others about an extremely important matter?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UpMYVJWsL-o

[smackaholic]

You state that a 757 driven straight into the ground, deliberately, at a high speed would have a large debris field.

On what do you base this "fact"?

Can you sight examples of similar crashes?

Actually, I can think of one. 15-20 years ago, a plane augered in, somewhere in the Everglades. Wasn't much of a debris field, IIRC.

[smackaholic]

Thanks, 88.

Look at those pics. What do you see?

Yup. a fairly small crater.

Oh, but it's a swamp. Totally different.

Right, dumbfukk?

[BSmack]

This is what's left of a Learjet that augured into a field in North Dakota. Not much debris.

[Moving Sale]

SOUTH Dakota.

Here is same crash.

[Moving Sale]

Oh, but it's a swamp. Totally different.

So you know the difference between swamp and soil. Very good.

[Left Seater]

Angle of attack at impact is the biggest factor in how large the debris field will be.

So if you want to compare debris fields you need to attach the part of the NTSB official report that states the best guess at speed and angle of attack.

[Moving Sale]

"Best guess"

[Left Seater]

"Best guess"

Without video and a radar gun what would you call it?

[Moving Sale]

That is exactly what I would call it. I certainly wouldn't call it science.

[LTS TRN 2]

Angle of attack at impact is the biggest factor in how large the debris field will be.

So if you want to compare debris fields you need to attach the part of the NTSB official report that states the best guess at speed and angle of attack.

Are you aware that the official story actually says that the black boxes were recovered? Yes, and it also says that lots of bodies were recovered, and tons of debris. Yes. But do you know how much of this evidence has been revealed? Absolutely nothing. The black boxes, for example, would give a detailed description of exactly what speed and angle the airliner allegedly crashed. But....? Nothing.

But of course Fake Seater, the total fraud who claims to be a "pilot," also claimed that a total amateur could easily program the auto-pilot feature on a 757 to head directly to a specific building (the pentagon in this case) whose coordinates would not be known or posted anywhere. Sure, this ludicrous fraud would say anything, however preposterous, to somehow defend the farcical official story. Why? Is he genuinely moronic, or an actual shill of some sort?

[smackaholic]

Assuming the government is running this conspiracy of yours, they could release whatever the fukk info they wanted to regarding black boxes. Hell, they could have piloted remote control jets.

If they had the power to make a building collapse, they certainly could and would have piloted remote control real jets.

Your conspiracy doesn't even make sense to actual tin hat wearing tards. Please just kill yourself.

[Left Seater]

That is exactly what I would call it. I certainly wouldn't call it science.

Ok, so I don’t understand the laughing face. But whatever.

[Moving Sale]

Assuming the government is running this conspiracy of yours, they could release whatever the fukk info they wanted to regarding black boxes. Hell, they could have piloted remote control jets.

If they had the power to make a building collapse, they certainly could and would have piloted remote control real jets.

Your conspiracy doesn't even make sense to actual tin hat wearing tards. Please just kill yourself.

But why release doctored data if they can just not release it and millions of people like you just don't give a fuck. Seems like as risk not worth taking.

How many other dumb ideas do you have rolling around in that sock puppet you call a head?

[smackaholic]

Angle of attack at impact is the biggest factor in how large the debris field will be.

So if you want to compare debris fields you need to attach the part of the NTSB official report that states the best guess at speed and angle of attack.

I assume you are trying to just use terms that a non-pilot would be comfortable, but, angle of attack is not the correct term. I suspect glide slope would be a better one. Angle of attack is not the angle you impact the ground at. I'm not sure exactly what it is, but it has to do with the direction of air flow compared to the airfoil (wing).

[Left Seater]

Yup. Using attitude would lead some to think about the pilots mood which isn’t what attitude would mean in this case.

The media is fond of using angle of attack when talking about the relative position of the airplane instead of the angle between the wing chord and the oncoming air or relative wind. This results in the general population also using it incorrectly but it being widely accepted as correct.

[Softball Bat]

Somewhere in that that report it states the in flight movies running on that plane. Journey To The Center Of The Earth, and Gator.

This should have been RACKed.

There are still a few people left on this bored who appreciate a little humor, yes?

[LTS TRN 2]

Assuming the government is running this conspiracy of yours, they could release whatever the fukk info they wanted to regarding black boxes. Hell, they could have piloted remote control jets.

If they had the power to make a building collapse, they certainly could and would have piloted remote control real jets.

Your conspiracy doesn't even make sense to actual tin hat wearing tards. Please just kill yourself.

But why release doctored data if they can just not release it and millions of people like you just don't give a fuck. Seems like as risk not worth taking.

How many other dumb ideas do you have rolling around in that sock puppet you call a head?

Exactly...and the astonishing degree of sheer mental sloth in this regard is appalling.

Examine this with but casual interest..and?
https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/com ... ontrolled/

Smackie, yes the buildings--all three--were rigged for demolition, as is obvious in their controlled collapse. Similarly, yes, the planes were remotely controlled--because the alleged hijackers could barely drive cars, let alone perform expert piloting of massive airliners. As to the cognitive dissonance of millions of people like yourself just tuning out the obvious falsity of the official story--look in the mirror and ask yourself. What's terrifying about an inside job--and the ensuing Permanent War based on lies? Well, lot's. You should be horrified and outraged. Perhaps you don't feel the room in your life for a paradigm shift of your alreadt palsied Norman Rockwell version of American life. Well, buddy, WAKEY WAKE....because it's time to get up now. :wink:

[LTS TRN 2]

Hey, how's the chops?..Your standard vid of a jet fighter rammed into a wall is supposed to support what? That it would be obliterated? Okay. That there would be little if any debris? Okay. But think about this as you attempt to offer this as an analogy to the alleged similar slam of a 757 into the massive pentagon wall.....would this jet fighter have pierced right through the reinforced wall, you know, like a missile? Would it continue and pierce through three similar concrete rings? Well? Of course not. The lightweight body of the jet, just like the airliner, would indeed be obliterated, but NOT pierce through at all. Think about it.

[LTS TRN 2]

Well yeah, there's that as well, if we're going to add up all of the features of the official story which defy physics. What I don't understand is that if everyone--like yourself, a gravy-slurping Everyman in a trailer park--understands perfectly well that the official story of 9/11 is total bullshit, well why don't you stand up and say something--shit, write a song, you know like Short Attorney. But don't just accept it. That's what they're counting on.

[Moving Sale]

Because he LIKES being stupid. He thinks having no education is a badge of honor. School is for snowflake cucks. Reason and education are a left wing conspiracy.

[LTS TRN 2]

Because he LIKES being stupid. He thinks having no education is a badge of honor. School is for snowflake cucks. Reason and education are a left wing conspiracy.

I've less respect for you than any black person. I consider you an inferior.

LTS - I merely mentioned basic physics. Keep up.

No, g-guzzler, you didn't mention basic physics, you merely alluded to the fact that the 757 was unable to fly in at ground level at 500 mph into the pentagon. And of course this is accurate. But let's look at some more of the actual violation of basic physics entailed in the ludicrous official narrative of the 9/11 New Pearl Harbor false flag attacks..

Some basics explained...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNKnL_j6epo

and in more detail..
https://911planeshoax.com/tag/911-impossible-physics/

Sure, keep up! :wink:

[Moving Sale]

Stupid Baconbacked fuck doesn't even understand the pickel he is putting himself in.

[LTS TRN 2]

[quote="Papa Willie"
At a ground speed of 400 mph at sea level, a 757 is more fragile than that F4 you saw. What happened to the F4?[/quote]

What happened to the F4? It was of course obliterated into little pieces--and DID NOT pierce the concrete wall. As to what supposedly happened to the 757, well, we're supposed to believe that after NOT scraping the lawn with its huge engines, it slammed into the pentagon's massive concrete wall--about ten feet from the ground--and PIERCED straight through the recently reinforced wall--and then pierced straight through TWO MORE rings of the giant building's base.

Okay? A total violation of all sorts of physics. A total farce of an explanation. But...why have so many folks apparently accepted this absurdity? What yer excuse, Everyman?

[LTS TRN 2]

So what if he was responding to the explosion? Of course there was an emergency, a direct hit by a fucking missile. How do you suppose that a soft-metal airliner could pierce through the massive walls? And for that matter, how could the 757 which supposedly struck the 2nd tower have sliced right through like a bread knife? The third rule of Newton is completely violated. The building was hardened steel, the plane a soft and very lightweight metal shell. It doesn't matter if the airliner is going 500 mph into the stationary building, or if the building was going 500 mph into the the stationary airliner, the result is exactly the same--the airliner is crushed on the surface of the building. It is impossible for that plane to slice through steel.

Don't you find it odd that with all of the world's attention on the WTC towers after the first strike, that we only have ONE video of the airliner slicing into the building as though the tower was made of cheese?

[smackaholic]

Is water harder than aluminum?

Pretty sure aluminum is harder.

Ever see what happens to an airplane when it hits water at, oh let’s say 200 mph?

It gets wadded up. Everybody inside dies.

How can this be?

According to LTS’ law of unlike colliding materials, the plane should cut through water like a warm knife through buttah.

You got any arguments that couldn’t be broken by a severely drunk Down’s syndrome sufferer?


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[Goober McTuber]

You got any arguments that couldn’t be broken by a severely drunk Down’s syndrome sufferer?

You're severely drunk at 3:39 PM on a weekday?

[Left Seater]

You got any arguments that couldn’t be broken by a severely drunk Down’s syndrome sufferer?

You're severely drunk at 3:39 PM on a weekday?

Who cares if he is drunk as long as he isn’t driving. But did he out himself as having Down syndrome?

[Goober McTuber]

You got any arguments that couldn’t be broken by a severely drunk Down’s syndrome sufferer?

You're severely drunk at 3:39 PM on a weekday?

Who cares if he is drunk as long as he isn’t driving. But did he out himself as having Down syndrome?

I always thought that was obvious.

[LTS TRN 2]

How dare you play your silly troll action?

There's not a single part of the 9/11 Commission report that can stand up to even basic scrutiny.

You don't dare to reveal anything beyond your childish trolling. Go die.

WW

[smackaholic]

You got any arguments that couldn’t be broken by a severely drunk Down’s syndrome sufferer?

You're severely drunk at 3:39 PM on a weekday?

It's nice having a job where I can set my own hours.

[LTS TRN 2]

Is water harder than aluminum?

Pretty sure aluminum is harder.

Ever see what happens to an airplane when it hits water at, oh let’s say 200 mph?

It gets wadded up. Everybody inside dies.

How can this be?

According to LTS’ law of unlike colliding materials, the plane should cut through water like a warm knife through buttah.

You got any arguments that couldn’t be broken by a severely drunk Down’s syndrome sufferer?


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Smackie, you're apparently calling out Issac Newton on his Third Law, explained thus,

For every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction.


Your suggestion that an airplane should knife into the ocean is idiotic. Are you some sort of seriously uneducated hillbillly? Water is like concrete when struck. If the "aluminum" is shaped like an arrow it will penetrate to a degree. But if any sort of mass--like an airliner--crashes into water, it will crush and not penetrate.

But crashing into water is irrelevant. In the case of 9/11 the soft aluminum airliner struck the hardened steel building. Okay? That means the soft aluminum COULD NOT slice through the hardened steel.

An airliner crashing into a hardened steel building will crush--and not penetrate.

We have been deceived by some seriously sophisticated duplicity.

Look carefully..the first tower strike (at :33)..you can't see an airliner at all, just a missile..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhROd7Jt3-w

As for the second strike, everything's wrong as far as basic physics. Look at #10, the Hezarkahni vid...look how as the wings (which hold all the fuel) magically slice through the buttery steel frame of WTC 2, a giant bomb explodes on South side of the building. Obviously the explosive fuel and the immediate explosion are completely unconnected. What, you can't plainly see the exaggerated fireball? And of course there's that completely unusual pendulous object clearly attached to the bottom right of the fuselage. And look further at the distorted ratio of the airliner itself as it magically disappears...it's way too big.

Look again.

WW

[smackaholic]

Let’s assume the gubmint was behind it all.

Do you not think they’d be able to store all their nefarious implements inside the fuselage?

Not enough room in a 767. No problems, use a 747. We’re talking the international Zio-Nazi cabal here. They could use whatever plane they deemed necessary.

As for crashing into water, you are correct. The airliner does not slice through it. Water, as you said is “like concrete”.

Care to expound on that? Does it magically change form before the plane impacts it?

No, it doesn’t.

Yet water, which is demonstrably much softer than aluminum, wads said aluminum into balls of shit.

This same idea applies to aluminum, in this case playing the role of water and steel columns.

All of this makes perfect sense.....unless you don’t want it to.


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[smackaholic]

Interesting footage. I especially like the bit at the end where they claim a missile is fired “seconds” before impact.

Seconds before impact, that jet liner was over NY harbor, but I’ll let that go. We all know you meant to say milliseconds.

Anyhoo, you are saying that a full sized commercial jet liner traveling at 300-400 mph isn’t up to knocking down a building? It needs to launch a very small missile.....microseconds before impact?

You really are a special kind of retard.

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[smackaholic]

Want some more material science experiments?

Ever use a pressure washer?

They’re pretty neat.

Really, really cool ones are used in machining applications to cut metal.

How can that be?

Water can’t slice through metal. It’s impossible.

But it isn’t.

For some reason, soft materials, hurled at hard materials with enough velocity, can achieve ‘bode over the harder material.

Ain’t science great?


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[LTS TRN 2]

Smackie, you're offering nervous nonsensical ramblings.

Do you not notice in the vid that the building itself explodes even as the soft, fuel-laden wings are magically slicing through the stainless steel frame?

Why is the building exploding? The wing in barely into the building when the Southern side just explodes.

And no, despite your weaving and dodging, a soft-metal airplane cannot slice through steel in ANY circumstances. Are you kidding? How could you be so obtuse as to suggest such a blatant violation of basic physics.

As for the buildings (all three) being rigged in advance with explosives, well this is obvious when we examine the respective collapses--and we can plainly see the timed detonations going off.

As for the Zio-Nazi cabal who was behind it, well, look at what they've done starting exactly on that day. A Permanent War, several chapters of which have been based on total lies and relentless disinformation. And right now, the capo of the Irgun gang, Bibi, is likely going straight to prison.

But as long as seemingly rational adults like yourself are willing to suspend your basic reasoning and somehow toddle along pretending you believe the ludicrous official story, the Zionist (neocon) malignancy will continue to flourish--and destroy our world.

WW