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Jay in Phoenix wrote:Yes exactly
Go ahead and explain how me catching you lying is me getting my ass handed to me?
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Let's consider how many other generally accepted truths are actually bullshit (besides the New Pearl Harbor)...there's Evolution, which seems to have legs, especially when we watch Spencer Tracy make the bible thumpin' (William Jennings Bryan) Christer look foolish...but guess what? It's bullshit. How about the Big Bang? Sure, we've had lots of believable folks like Carl Sagan and even (briefly) Stephen Hawking supporting it. But...it's total bullshit. How about the Out Of Africa theory for the origins of humanity? Lots of credentialed experts are still completely on board with this one, despite the ever mounting evidence refuting it. Yep, it's bullshit. How about the narrative that the ancient Egyptians built the great pyramids? Bullshit.

And so when we come to the seemingly preposterous notion that the earth is flat--or, rather, not the globe of which we've been so soundly assured, well it may seem like a total joke. But, since so many other basic facts of our existence are actually not what we've been told, why not examine some other ideas?...here's one..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xwj-NUvMsI

and as much as we denigrate the muzzies, let's look at this..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqvVXwOzwhE
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Left Seater wrote:1. In the video the guy puts an artificial obstruction between the eye and the object. This doesn’t show vanishing point.

2. The board the guy artificially placed in front of the camera is why we can’t see all or some of the umbrella.

3. It is cut off by the board he placed in front of the camera!

4. If perspective actually explained this he wouldn’t need the board. But he does need the board to make it dissappear.

5. This is because he gets above the artificial obstruction he placed in the way of the umbrella.

6. Where is the artificial board in the photo of the power line towers?

Further education is needed.
Just 2:53 of your time is necessary.







1. Where is the board in front of his cut off legs?

2. Where is the board in front of his cut off legs?

3. Where is the board in front of his cut off legs?

4. Where is the board in front of his cut off legs?

5. Where is the board in front of his cut off legs?

6. Where is the board in front of his cut off legs?



Or was the guy over the curve of the earth?




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Jay wrote:You and Sale have had your asses handed to you up and down this thread.

Beyond ridiculous.

Eject, Jay.
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Left Seater wrote:At a vanishing point all of the tower would disappear, not just the lower parts of the towers.
Left Seater wrote:Think about what you are saying. Your point is the three foot object disappears before the 50 foot object. I would agree.
Which one will it be today?







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Dinsdale wrote:This one's been killing me. I'd love to hear the science behind this "vanishing point" phenomenon.

Things suddenly disappear (apparently at varying rates) based on distance?

That's news to anyone who has ever looked through a telescope.
lol

We're not talking about looking at stars.

We are talking about things on/near the horizon.



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The vanishing point is at the horizon.

What if there is a 500 ft tower at the vanishing point in that drawing?

Has it vanished?


Lefty wrote:At a vanishing point all of the tower would disappear, not just the lower parts of the towers.
LMAO!
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L TARD wrote:How about the Big Bang? Sure, we've had lots of believable folks like Carl Sagan and even (briefly) Stephen Hawking supporting it. But...it's total bullshit. How about the Out Of Africa theory for the origins of humanity? Lots of credentialed experts are still completely on board with this one, despite the ever mounting evidence refuting it. Yep, it's bullshit. How about the narrative that the ancient Egyptians built the great pyramids? Bullshit.

And so when we come to the seemingly preposterous notion that the earth is flat--or, rather, not the globe of which we've been so soundly assured, well it may seem like a total joke. But, since so many other basic facts of our existence are actually not what we've been told, why not examine some other ideas?
Pretty much, yep.
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So a 100 foot tower has infinite vanishing points. Got it. Dumbest thing you have posted yet.

At least you have backed away from supporting your board video.
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Left Seater wrote:So a 100 foot tower has infinite vanishing points.
Link?










Did you watch?

It OBLITERATED you.

His shoes disappeared after about 15 steps.
From there his legs continued to sink into the ground as he went along.
His hand level dropped, dropped, dropped...

At the end, he raised the camera and you could see the white "target" that was previously hidden (by the curvature?? LOL).

Game.
Set.
Match.



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One fine day at Fonebone's tavern.

An crazy old man and a midget walk into a bar.

As the odd Mutt and Jeff pair saunter in, the old man staggers off to a table at the end of the bar while the midget strides on stumpy legs to the bar itself. Fonebone, the bartender, spying his regular, glides around with a step ladder and stoically places it in front of the tiny man's favorite bar stool. The stunted, angry looking troll crawls awkwardly up the ladder and plops his fat ass onto the seat.

"Hello Mr. Sale," the barkeep says, "how's it going today?"

"Miserable," the dwarf spits. "that bastard is really trying my last nerve."

"Who," Fonebone asks. "that old guy." he says, pointing to the man. The old guy looks eerily like Billy Bob Thornton with aids.

"No," the dwarf replies. "that's just Popball Tart."

"Who?"

"Soft Tart Bat." the midget grumbles."

"Come again?"

"DAVE!" the old man barks, then slams his face onto the table. BANG!

"Oh," Fonebone says. "his name is..."

"Dave's not here!" the old man shouts, spraying spittle. BANG! His face slams the table again.

"Ah, I see. A Cheech and Chong fan." Fonebone says knowingly.

"Firmament!" the old man barks. BANG BANG BANG!!! His face turns purple as he slams his head again.

"Sooo," the barkeep says. "you seem troubled Mr. Sale, what is wrong.

"It's that lying POS Jay! Liar, liar, liar!!!" he pounds his tiny fists on the bar top.

"Really, who's Jay?"

"He's a T1B idiot." Sale stammers. "He's fucking lying about that fucking picture!"

Fonebone moves a hand under the bar, pressing a red button marked T1B. "I see." he replies. "What picture is that?"

"This one!" the midget screams. He slams his iPhone onto the bar, swiping between a picture of a series of towers and a video of the same scene. The two images are clearly different. "That fucking asshole says this pic is from 1969! Goddammit, it's a shot from the video! Liar!"

Fonebone studies the two images. "You know Mr. Sale, if I would hazard a guess, while the angles are similar, as are the scenes, this picture looks different from the You Tube video. The focus is obviously not the same, nor is the lighting or color."

"LIAR!!!" the midget screams, pounding his little fists. "DAVE!" the old man echoes.

"Mr. Sale, with all due respect, I think this Jay person might just be messing with you, you know, pulling your strings?"

"LIAR!!! I ain't NO damn puppet!!!" the dwarf wails. "That fucker LIES!!!"

"Yes sir." the barkeep says. "Of course." He reaches under the bar again and produces a glass of foamy white liquid. "I've made this up, just special for you sir." he says respectfully.

"Oooh, milk. Just like my mommy makes." the midget smiles for the first time. His gnarled and stubby fingers curl around the cool glass. Meanwhile, the old man has removed his pants and placed his index finger up his ass. He pulls the finger out with a discernible 'POP' and sniffs it. His face scrunches up. There is a nugget of corn on the tip. The old guy sticks the finger into his mouth and begins sucking.

"My, that looks tasty." the troll says with a sigh. "Almost as good as black cock...almost." He tips the milk to his lips and takes a sip. "Yum." he purrs. He then slams the whole glass full of milk down his little hatch.

"No no Mr. Sale," Fonebone intones, "that's too fast. That milk was...special."

"Special?" the midget asks.

"You know, spiked. I wanted you to relax. That is a White Russian."

"A Commie?" the dwarf barks. "DAVE!" the old man echoes. BANG BANG BANG!! goes his face. His eyes are starting to cross and he is drooling brown spittle.

"No," the bartender replies. "It's milk and vodka."

"Vot-ker?" the midget slurs, starting to feel the effects.

"Yes," Fonebone insists. "and...something else." He slips the roofies back into his pocket.

A vehicle has pulled up outside the bar and two men in white suits get out and stand ready.

"Shur ish tashty, thish milky...urp." he burps. His eyes cross and he suddenly vomits milk and Fruit Loops onto his shirt. His eyes roll up and he drops off the bar stool and onto the floor with a wet, nasty plop. A puddle of urine pools out underneath him. "Okay boys." the barkeep says. The two men walk in and grab the old guy, placing him into a straight jacket. "Firmament!" He barks. "Dave!" The men, one with a name tag that reads 88, the other one is stitched with Scott, lead the old man outside. Scott has what appears to be a purse on one shoulder. Fonebone is staring at it oddly. "Binoculars." Scott states. "I see." the bar man replies. They shove the old guy into the back of the car and peel out with burning rubber. "Off to the hospital again." 88 says with a wave.

The bartender sighs and goes for a large squeegee. He pushes the midget across the floor and out into the gutter, where his open mouth mixes with rat, pigeon and hobo DNA. "Well," he sighs. "at least AP is not YOU."
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D-
Granted I only read the first three words.

So to recap:
Jayne is a lying POS.
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Liar. :mrgreen:
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Where is the guy’s vanishing point? He never is gone from view. So where exactly is his vanishing point?

Further we are just to take his word that the yard is flat? If that is the case then you need to take Nasa’s Word on photos. If you don’t then why do we have to accept his word?

Game set and match my ass. You refuse to discuss multiple subjects that can’t happen with a flat earth model, yet fit perfectly with a globe model.

But by all means claim a mic drop walk off, without addressing anything. We will keep laughing at you.
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Jay in Phoenix wrote:Liar. :mrgreen:
Ok I'll come clean. I read the whole title.
Your turn.
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Jay in Phoenix wrote:
"Oooh, milk. Just like my mommy makes." the midget smiles for the first time. His gnarled and stubby fingers curl around the cool glass. Meanwhile, the old man has removed his pants and placed his index finger up his ass. He pulls the finger out with a discernible 'POP' and sniffs it. His face scrunches up. There is a nugget of corn on the tip. The old guy sticks the finger into his mouth and begins sucking.

"My, that looks tasty." the troll says with a sigh. "Almost as good as black cock...almost." He tips the milk to his lips and takes a sip. "Yum." he purrs. He then slams the whole glass full of milk down his little hatch.
This was worth the whole read right here.
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Please tell me you haven't graduated from obssesing over my body to fantasizing about me. :evil:
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Left Seater wrote:This is another falsehood on your part. The lower of the power line towers disappearing isn't due to a vanishing point. At a vanishing point all of the tower would disappear, not just the lower parts of the towers.

In your flat earth if I can see any part of the building I should be able to see all of it.
For the record, both of these statements have been shown to be absolutely -----> FALSE.



LS wrote:Where is the guy’s vanishing point? He never is gone from view. So where exactly is his vanishing point?
Well duh.

He obviously would just have to keep walking.
His entire body would eventually sink into the earth.

Just like when you drive away from a mountain.
It gets smaller, smaller, smaller... and then finally it has sunk into the horizon and can no longer be seen at all.
Right?

If the camera is at 1 ft elevation, the horizon is 1.22 miles away.

If the camera is on the ground (as it is in the video), the horizon is much closer than that.

https://dizzib.github.io/earth/curve-ca ... t=imperial



LS wrote:Further we are just to take his word that the yard is flat? If that is the case then you need to take Nasa’s Word on photos. If you don’t then why do we have to accept his word?
You can claim the yard is not flat, etc.
That's up to you.

Do the experiment for yourself.


LS wrote:But by all means claim a mic drop walk off, without addressing anything.
Dude, I put the time and effort into SHOWING YOU that two of your statements were ABSOLUTELY WRONG.

I addressed those egregious errors on your part.

I didn't address anything?

lol

Much of what you post is just background noise.

Idiocy.
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Lefty wrote:You refuse to discuss multiple subjects that can’t happen with a flat earth model, yet fit perfectly with a globe model.
NOTHING fits with your globe model if the curvature is not present.

I've asked for you (or anyone) to show it.





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Seasons, sunsets, eclipses, flights between continents, all fit perfectly on a globe, yet you won’t discuss.

Further, you claim every photo from space is doctored but we should accept this guy at face value.
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Left Seater wrote:Further, you claim every photo from space is doctored but we should accept this guy at face value.
1. NASA tells you their photos are doctored. They are images, composites, etc.

2. They have never shown a rocket going from land to space, so no, of course I don't believe their nonsense.

3. I'm starting to think you might have a learning disability.

The guy's video was COMMON SENSE.

poptart wrote:Just like when you drive away from a mountain.
It gets smaller, smaller, smaller... and then finally it has sunk into the horizon and can no longer be seen at all.
Right?

Left Seater wrote:Seasons, sunsets, eclipses, flights between continents, all fit perfectly on a globe, yet you won’t discuss.

There is no reason to go on the wild goose chase, Lefty.

They don't prove the globe.

I have explored all of them.

The curvature is not present.
That is the elephant in the room.
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Left Seater wrote:Further we are just to take his word that the yard is flat?









Plug in your brain.
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If seasons, sunsets, eclipses, Southern Hemisphere non stop flights don’t prove a globe, they certainly disprove your flat earth.

Again you have proven zero. Just accept the yard is flat because that guy claims it is. :lol:

Your psychosis is getting worryingly severe.
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88 wrote:Pop. You know that football fields, particularly natural grass fields, are crowned.
1. Yes, I was aware.

2.From your link: The National Federation of High Schools suggests that the field should rise 0.25 inches per foot from the sideline to the center of the field.

Was he walking from the center to the sideline?

No.

3. Was the other guy's backyard not level? lol

4.Hypothetical: Perfectly level ground. Place a camera on the ground. Begin to walk away from it. How far will you have to walk before your feet disappear from view?
lol

Answer: :?:

LMAO!

5. You're not smart.


88 wrote:Are you still surprised each time someone plays peek-a-boo with you?
How many times has NASA told you they are in space?

And you believe them every time.





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Left Seater wrote:If seasons, sunsets, eclipses, Southern Hemisphere non stop flights don’t prove a globe, they certainly disprove your flat earth.
You really do have a learning disability.

I don't declare that it is a fact that that the earth is flat.
I endorse no model of the earth because I don't know the shape.

I have said this at least 20 times now.


YOU declare your globe to be a fact.
Your globe is on trial.

It's not doing well.


LS wrote:Your psychosis is getting worryingly severe.
Oh sure.
And yet you have been SHOWN to be absolutely WRONG twice already in this thread.
lol

Do the experiment yourself.

Or answer #4 above.

That will be entertaining.
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poptart wrote:4.Hypothetical: Perfectly level ground. Place a camera on the ground. Begin to walk away from it. How far will you have to walk before your feet disappear from view?
lol

Answer: :?:

LMAO!
Because I am a gentle, helpful soul...


Pause at 7:02 - flat road

7:17 to 8:00 - watch the black car






Now answer #4.






I wish I could see your face right now.

haha!
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This is another falsehood on your part. The lower of the power line towers disappearing isn't due to a vanishing point. At a vanishing point all of the tower would disappear, not just the lower parts of the towers.

In your flat earth if I can see any part of the building I should be able to see all of it.


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Left Seater wrote:But ask yourself why can I still see the upper 47 feet of the 50 foot object if there isn’t curvature? In your flat earth if I can see any part of the building I should be able to see all of it.
poptart wrote:It is a matter of perspective.

It is that simple.

Left Seater wrote:If perspective actually explained this he wouldn’t need the board. But he does need the board to make it dissappear.


He OBVIOUSLY does NOT need the board.

He just needs to be low to the ground and far enough away.

It has now been SHOWN to you three times.


This is no new revelation here.
It is common knowledge that the ground will swallow an object up as you move further and further from the object.
It is the way our eyes work.


You and 88 reveal that you don't even know the BASICS.
And yet you persist is denigrating me and acting as if I am the one who is off base.

You guys are quite frankly a JOKE.

Being a joke might be okay, but the ARROGANCE and IGNORANCE you display is quite stunning.
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More bullshit from our Liar in Chief.
WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump is looking for a fix to a problem that doesn't exist — stopping foreign countries from picking out troublesome people for a lottery to move to the U.S. They don't get to do that.

He's talking about the diversity visa program, which bears little resemblance to his common portrayal of it. Trump's mischaracterization of the program over the weekend followed a speech to conservatives Friday that drifted off the facts on the economy, the environment and more.

A look at his recent rhetoric:

TRUMP: "I mean we actually have lottery systems where you go to countries and they do lotteries for who comes into the United States. Now, you know they are not going to have their best people in the lottery, because they're not going to put their best people in a lottery. They don't want to have their good people to leave. ... We want people based on merit. Not based on the fact they are thrown into a bin and many of those people are not the people you want in the country, believe me." — Fox News phone interview Saturday night.

THE FACTS: That's not how it works.

The lottery program is run by the U.S. government, not foreign governments. Other countries do not get to sort through their populations looking for bad apples to put in a "bin" for export to the U.S. Citizens of qualifying countries are the ones who decide to bid for visas under the program.

The program requires applicants to have completed a high school education or have at least two years of experience in the last five years in a selection of fields identified by the Labor Department. Out of that pool of people from certain countries who meet those conditions, the State Department randomly selects a much smaller pool of winners. Not all winners will have visas ultimately approved, because they still must compete for a smaller number of slots by getting their applications in quickly. Those who are ultimately offered visas still need to go through background checks, like other immigrants.

The lottery is extended to citizens of most countries, except about 20. The primary goal is to diversify the immigrant population by creating slots for underrepresented parts of the world.



TRUMP on the Obama-era mandate to buy health insurance or pay a fine: "That's gone." — Conservative Political Action Conference, Friday.

THE FACTS: It's not gone. People still risk fines this year if they go without health insurance. Under a law that has been enacted, the fines will disappear in 2019.



TRUMP: "We passed the biggest tax cuts in the history of our country." — CPAC speech.

THE FACTS: Trump's tax cuts are not the largest in history, despite his frequent claims that they are.

In comparisons using 2012 inflation-adjusted dollars, his cuts average about $130 billion a year, compared with $208 billion a year for President Ronald Reagan's 1981 tax cut package, according to an analysis by the nonpartisan Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget of the Senate proposal that shaped the final overhaul. President Barack Obama cut taxes by a larger average than Trump, in 2010 and 2013, when he made permanent the temporary cuts enacted by President George W. Bush.

Analyses of earlier versions of Trump's tax cut proposals, when they were considerably larger than they eventually became, found that his package lagged Reagan's, post-World War II tax cuts and at least several others when measured as a percentage of the gross domestic product. That's another common yardstick used by economists for historical comparisons.



TRUMP on the Paris climate accord, which he has announced the U.S. will leave: "Basically, it said, 'you have a lot of oil and gas' ... and basically, they were saying, 'Don't use it. You can't use it.'" He added: "They called India a developing nation. They call China a developing nation. But the United States? We're developed. We can pay." — CPAC speech.

THE FACTS: That's a misrepresentation of the accord on several fronts. First, emission targets in the accord are voluntary, determined by individual nations, and they can be made stronger or weaker by each country. So while the agreement is aimed at achieving more clean energy, nothing in it stops the U.S. from exploiting its petroleum reserves.

Second, Trump is stating a distinction between developed and developing nations that was relevant in the decades-old Kyoto Protocol on global warming but is largely meaningless in the Paris agreement.

Such differential treatment "has nothing to do with the Paris Agreement," said Henry "Jake" Jacoby, founding co-director of MIT's Joint Center on the Science and Policy of Global Change, in an email. "The Paris Agreement does NOT ... impose specific differential action among countries regarding greenhouse emissions abatement."

It merely affirms a "moral" obligation for richer countries to help poorer ones achieve a cleaner energy future, he said.

Nigel Purvis, an international law expert who was a State Department climate negotiator both in the Clinton and George W. Bush administrations, said no country is obligated to make financial payments to any other country under the Paris accord. "That is exactly what the Bush administration and Congress said they wanted instead of the 1997 Kyoto Protocol, which did have different obligations for developed and developing nations," he said.



TRUMP on the Paris accord: "You know, China — their agreement didn't kick in until 2030. Right? Our agreement kicks in immediately." — CPAC speech.

THE FACTS: No. The accord already affects China, which pledged to peak its emissions by 2030, not to wait until then to take action.

"That means gradual slowdown in the growth of their emissions between now and then," said John Sterman, director of the Sloan Sustainability Initiative at the MIT Sloan School of Management. "To reach an emissions peak by 2030 China must deploy policies to reduce coal use and promote renewables now — and has been."

The U.S., before Trump, pledged to cut its emissions by 25 percent to 28 percent, below 2005 levels, by 2025.



TRUMP on coal: "And West Virginia, now, is doing great. You look at what's happening in West Virginia, you look at what's happening in Pennsylvania, you look at what's happening in Ohio and you look at what's happening in Wyoming — you look at what's happening all over — it's like a — it's like a different world." — CPAC speech.

THE FACTS: Coal has not come roaring back and West Virginia's economy, in particular, still struggles.

Nationwide, coal mining has added just 1,100 jobs in Trump's first year and the industry now employs 51,800. That reverses five years of declines, but back in 2013 coal mining employed 78,400. Abundant natural gas has become a cheaper alternative to coal for many power plants and is a key reason for the coal industry's long-term struggle.

West Virginia's unemployment rate was 5.5 percent in December, the latest data available, compared with 4.5 percent in May and little changed from when Trump took office in January 2017.

The national unemployment rate has fallen since May and was 4.1 percent in December. West Virginia has added just 1,500 jobs since Trump's inauguration, a 0.2 percent gain. That's below the nationwide increase of 1.3 percent.

Wyoming hasn't gained any jobs since January 2017. Its unemployment rate has fallen from 4.8 percent to 4.2 percent, partly because fewer people are looking for work and are no longer counted as unemployed.

Pennsylvania has added jobs and its unemployment rate has fallen in the past year. But coal doesn't appear to have much to do with it. The biggest job gains were in professional and business services, which include engineering, accountants and architects, and a separate category mostly made up of hotel and restaurant jobs.

Ohio has also improved overall: Its unemployment rate fell to 4.7 percent in December from 5 percent when Trump took office. The state added 35,000 jobs, a 0.6 percent gain, also below the national average. Its job gains were mostly in education and health care, hotels and restaurants, and manufacturing.
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Washington (CNN) — President Donald Trump said Monday he would have stormed into the Florida high school to stop the gunman perpetrating the nation's latest mass shooting "even if I didn't have a weapon" as he lambasted the inaction of a sheriff's deputy assigned to the school.

"You don't know until you test it, but I think, I really believe I'd run in there, even if I didn't have a weapon
Sure you would have, Donnie. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Goober McTuber wrote:
Washington (CNN) — President Donald Trump said Monday he would have stormed into the Florida high school to stop the gunman perpetrating the nation's latest mass shooting "even if I didn't have a weapon" as he lambasted the inaction of a sheriff's deputy assigned to the school.

"You don't know until you test it, but I think, I really believe I'd run in there, even if I didn't have a weapon
Sure you would have, Donnie. :lol: :lol: :lol:
Just like he defeated the Viet Cong by going raw on 70s pussy.
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Left Seater wrote:In your flat earth if I can see any part of the building I should be able to see all of it.
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Left Seater wrote:Again you have proven zero. Just accept the yard is flat because that guy claims it is.
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Pause at :25.
Notice the fence on the left.

Notice the length of the fence post closest to you.
Notice how the fence posts gradually get shorter as the fence posts get more distant from you.
Notice how you can still see the top of the fence posts.

Yes?

Is this due to earth curvature?
LMAO!

This SHOWS YOU that the fence has "sunken into the ground" due to PERSPECTIVE.
As poptart has informed you many times now.

And of course from :25 to :48 the guy walks and sinks into the ground as he walks further from the camera.









Same thing.
The posts get shorter the further away from the camera they are.




Ho hum.

And this is a pilot and a lawyer we're talking to here.





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Simple...






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BSmack wrote:
Goober McTuber wrote:
Washington (CNN) — President Donald Trump said Monday he would have stormed into the Florida high school to stop the gunman perpetrating the nation's latest mass shooting "even if I didn't have a weapon" as he lambasted the inaction of a sheriff's deputy assigned to the school.

"You don't know until you test it, but I think, I really believe I'd run in there, even if I didn't have a weapon
Sure you would have, Donnie. :lol: :lol: :lol:
Just like he defeated the Viet Cong by going raw on 70s pussy.
The best thing Trump could do for America would be to run unarmed into an active shooter situation.
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First off this shows I had way to much time on my hands. Secondly as Softball Bat said, go do the same experiment yourself. So I did. And in a shocking turn of events to exactly no one, my legs and feet didn't disappear. Further my new dog Hannah also didn't disappear. She did blend into the background but if you watch this youtube video on your tv you can see her the entire time. Especially when I turn around and she goes from the right side to the left. She is also more easily visible when light colored cars pass us highlighting her darker fur against the brown telephone pole and tree background.

Further I wore a green shirt with light colored shorts and flip flops. Of course I appear to get shorter, but at no time does any part of my body "sink into the earth" or "disappear." On top of that Hannan being shorter to begin with is there all the time as well. Sure she is harder to see because she is shorter to begin with. But according to Softball Bat my feet, then ankles, then calves, then knees, then thighs should have all slowly disappeared as I walked away. Then they should have started to re-appear as I came closer to the camera. Of course they didn't, I just appear to get shorter and shorter until I appear just taller than the Board Bitch. Meanwhile Hannah is just a spec and a blur, but she is still there if you play this on a large screen.

So...




So now we get to enjoy Softball Bat's spin. He claimed the guy didn't need the board to make the umbrella disappear, but of course he did. He claims the guy walking across his yard (that is flat) slowly sinks into the earth. He posts videos of posts and walls, and claims they sink into the earth as well. If that were all true, why didn't my feet disappear first? The simple answer is the yard wasn't flat, nor was the football field, etc. If it was the people in the video wouldn't have appeared to lose their legs.

So enjoy T1B. Softball Bat is the gift that keeps on giving. No doubt he will claim some sort of "victory" out of the fact Hannah and I are shorter and hard to see, but we are still there on the video. All of us, not just my waist up.
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And in other news Softball Bat refuses to discuss, there is an airline that has filed to fly trans polar flights on a regular basis:
The West Austrialian wrote:A world-first air route is planned to link South America and Asia, with Perth the critical hub linking the two big travel markets.
The fastest route is via the South Pole but a stop in Perth would be needed for fuel, creating exciting stopover tourism potential.
Argentine airline Norwegian Air Argentina has applied and been given approval for the Buenos Aires to Perth route, and is applying for rights to Singapore, while Airbus and Boeing have done studies on how the route would be accomplished.
China Southern, Singapore Airlines, and Qantas also have rights to fly the route.
Last week in Perth, the Argentine Chamber of Commerce’s Australia executive director, Diego Berazategui, presented the initiative to key WA industry representatives and Argentina’s ambassador to Australia, Hugo Gobbi.
“The study shows that a trans-polar flight between Buenos Aires and Perth would take less than 15 hours and would position Perth as a great midpoint destination for international travellers between Asia and Latin America,” Mr Berazategui said.
“One of the points highlighted in the discussion was that Perth would significantly benefit by attracting ‘in-transit’ passengers — a new wave of visitors from both Asia and Latin America.
“This could have a major impact on the number of people visiting Perth and should be considered an important part of the WA Asian Engagement Strategy.”
Mr Gobbi said that the route “would be a real game changer for both Argentina and Australia”.
This route would cross over Antarctica on a daily basis. Some times it might cross directly over the pole. Of course it won't do that every time as it will want to take a route that has the most favorable winds.

Here is the shortest distance between the two cities:

http://www.gcmap.com/mapui?P=PER-EZE

Somehow Softball Bat will claim that this is also just a scam. That just because the plane crosses the Antarctic continent, it doesn't prove the ice wall/damn isn't there. Can't wait to hear his explanation of this flight. Oh wait, that's right, he refuses to discuss or much less even acknowledge that Southern Hemisphere flights exist.
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Must be a good hood. Most areas that camera would have been jacked when you got 50 feet from it.
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Pssst...Papa. It's 'cause the Bible says it is so.

Even though it doesn't.

I for one, am still waiting for that Firmament picture. I mean, HE keeps demanding photographic proof of everything else, let's see him PROVE his perspective.
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Jay in Phoenix wrote:Pssst...Papa. It's 'cause the Bible says it is so.

Even though it doesn't.

"It is he who sits above the circle of the earth"


"four angels standing at the four corners of the earth"



Uhm... yeah. Maybe the bible isn't the best source of astronomy. Or anything else.
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Dinsdale wrote:Uhm... yeah. Maybe the bible isn't the best source of astronomy. Or anything else.
Gee, ya' think? Too bad poptart doesn't.
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