Science

[Shlomart Ben Yisrael]

You should make my case.

'tart, you're my bro.
I'd take an e-bullet for you, you know that, right?

[Softball Bat]

There's no way that water can adhere to a spinning ball, but air can support water suspended above the Firmament.

https://www.blueletterbible.org/lang/le ... 7549&t=KJV

If you look at the word raqiya` (firmament), and how it is used Biblically, you can see that it speaks of something tangible.
See Ezekiel 1:22, 23, 25, 26, and Ezekiel 10:1, for example.

I suspect that the firmament (if there is one) has substance to it.

I could say more, but yeah, I certainly do not believe that the firmament is air.

[Softball Bat]

'tart, you're my bro.
I'd take an e-bullet for you, you know that, right?

Thanks, Marty.
Likewise.

When The Mark of the Beast comes around, we can decline it (and be put to death) together.


:wink:

[Softball Bat]

I believe you are a loon.

Think what you will, but you don't have much credibility.

Your proof video of a rocket going from land to space was -----> a video where a rocket did not go from land to space.
lol

You also claim to have seen a rocket go from land to space with your own eyes.
It is almost unbelievable to me that someone who actually post such a thing.
And then you doubled down on it with this...

And I did see a rocket go into space from Cape Canaveral. According to your own words, space begins 62 miles above the Earth's surface, and the rocket was 40 miles up in the video at 2:25 after launch. During the launch I personally witnessed, you could see the rocket's engine for about six minutes after lift-off. If it wasn't in space by then, where the fuck was it? Genius.

You're not a genius, are you?

1. If your testimony is accurate (very questionable, imo), who knows where it went? Curved off gradually (engines still visible) and ended up plopping down in the ocean. It didn't go to space because if rockets went to space we would have seen such an event 30+ years ago.

2. Why should anyone believe you, anyway? You didn't time it. You certainly have no video of your own to show. You were likely lit out of your mind and probably honestly can't remember much more than that you were waving your red, white, and blue flag around the whole time. Get a grip, study up on the stupidity of NASA's bullshit, and learn something.

[Screw_Michigan]

Stick a fork in this fucking sordid clambake already

[Softball Bat]

What's the problem?

I answered you.

[Softball Bat]

You ask questions and don't bother to read the answers?

Sounds about right.


Good luck.

Enjoy your globe.

[Rooster]

pops, why could people NOT survive on the ISS? They have oxygen, food, medical supplies that are good for months and months, which get renewed by other missions going up to the ISS. What is so impossible here?

1. There is no video of a rocket ever going up to the ISS. Hence, nobody is up there.

This statement lives next door to the old saw about a tree falling in the woods and nobody is there to hear it, did it make a sound? Videography is now the bar by which something is determined to be true or false? My goodness, how did we ever prove anything before silent movies?

[Softball Bat]

Rooster, almost everything that can be filmed... is filmed.

Why wouldn't they film a rocket going all the way to space?

They never thought of it?
Didn't think it would kool or interesting?
Just didn't give a damn?


Seriously, what's your theory on that?

Why do you think they have never filmed a rocket going from earth to space?

[BSmack]

Why do you think they have never filmed a rocket going from earth to space?

:doh:

https://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv/#public

[Jay in Phoenix]

1. There is no video of a rocket ever going up to the ISS. Hence, nobody is up there.

Complete and utter horseshit. There are astronauts up there right now you pinhead. Get a telescope and jam your eyeball into it and see for yourself. You already admitted the ISS is up there and now you retract? Hypocrite and liar, those titles suit you well.

2. The could not assemble the thing up there in space so that it is air-tight and able to function. In space suits, on cords, with bulky gloves on, they got everything sealed up just perfectly? Do you know anything about construction?

They do assembly work in space all the time, it's called a spacewalk. There are plenty of videos showing just that, but of course you claim they are all fake, but you can't prove they are fake to save your life. Not that it's worth saving.

I have this thing called a brain.

Which you seem incapable of using for rationale thought. Carry on you sad sack sheep.

3. Dude, they need a machine shop. There are a multitude of things that quite easily would be needing PRECISE repair -- or people DIE, which they obviously would.

Not only do they not have a machine shop, they never even need to bring the entire craft down to the ground for maintenance.
lol

The entire thing is far beyond ridiculous.

They don't need to bring it down troll. They do all repairs and maintenance in space. Again, tools, supplies, food, etc are all available and replaceable with the next shuttle launch.

It's only ridiculous to you because your water logged "brain" is so full of shit.

Pull your head out of your ass, wipe away the fecal matter and see the real world.

Moron.

[Softball Bat]

Why do you think they have never filmed a rocket going from earth to space?

:doh:

https://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv/#public

:doh:


Is there something wrong with you?

Rocket going from land to space.

Post it.



GO...

[Softball Bat]

You already admitted the ISS is up there and now you retract? Hypocrite and liar, those titles suit you well.

I don't know who is worse, you or Dinsdale.

Here, 'cuz you're kind of slow...

I don't doubt that there is an "ISS" of some sort circuiting around up in the sky.

I said sky, not space, dummy.

Airplanes are in the sky.
It doesn't mean they are in space, dummy.

I have already said many many times that I assume that there is no space.






#unreal

[Jay in Phoenix]

I don't doubt that there is an "ISS" of some sort circuiting around up in the sky.
I said sky, not space, dummy.

Airplanes are in the sky.
It doesn't mean they are in space, dummy.

I have already said many many times that I assume that there is no space.

God you're dumb. It isn't an airplane, first and foremost. It is a SPACE-FUCKING-STATION.

You ASSume that there is no space? Bwahahahahahaha!!!

Funniest thing you're said in a while. Once again, with feeling...look through a telescope. It will end this stupidity of yours at once.

Meanwhile, here is a video of the ISS from Earth. It is visible with the naked eye on a clear night.



Another zoomed in view from Earth.



I know I know, those are fake too.

Go pound a Bible, cretin.

[Softball Bat]

They don't need to bring it down troll. They do all repairs and maintenance in space. Again, tools, supplies, food, etc are all available and replaceable with the next shuttle launch.

Mmmm hmmm...

You do believe in punk unicorns.


Valves, pumps, seals, hoses, shafts, filters, etc. can become compromised at any time.

Not only would they need immediate replacement, but such replacement would have to be to precision.

Or death occurs.


They ain't waitin' two weeks for the next shipment to arrive.

rotf...

[Softball Bat]

Once again, with feeling...look through a telescope.

And what is that supposed to prove to me?

Explain in your own words.

[Softball Bat]

And you know that this light that flies by up there is in space... how?

Another zoomed in view from Earth.

This is supposedly in space, too?

And you know this... how?





Total embarrassing failure.

[Left Seater]

What is an embarrassing failure is your excessive spacing. Others have called you out on it, but for some reason you continue to type a few words and then an equal number of hits to the return key.

UNCLE!

[Jay in Phoenix]

Once again, with feeling...look through a telescope.

And what is that supposed to prove to me?

Explain in your own words.

I would say you can't possibly be this stupid...yet you are.

If you look through a telescope, you'll see visible proof of everything that has been said about space, planets, satellites and the stars.

Those twinkly lights in the night sky aren't Christmas lights behind a black velvet blanket. But since you believe everything is fake, I'm sure that is exactly what you believe. It goes right along with you Biblical fallacies.

And to reiterate LS, enough with the stupid-ass double and triple spacing. Grow up already.

This is poptart's brain.



Explains things, doesn't it?

[Softball Bat]

If you look through a telescope, you'll see visible proof of everything that has been said about space, planets, satellites and the stars.

This is Jupiter (and four moons) seen through a telescope on earth...







This is supposed to prove to me that the earth is the globe that you say it is?

How does it prove that?


What is this supposed to prove?

[Softball Bat]

I don't know why I find this comment so hilarious. But I do. Are you asserting that NASA is some kind of a hoax or conspiracy? If so, let's consider the enormity of that hoax or conspiracy. According to Wikipedia, as of 2013, 533 human beings have orbited the Earth in space. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_s ... rs_by_name They are from 37 different countries. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_s ... ationality There are 18,000 people who work for NASA, and hundreds of thousands who work for other space agencies and contractors. And let's not forget the astronomers, cosmologists and astrophysicists employed at universities.

If you are right, all of these people have to be living a lie.

We have discussed this before.

No, I certainly do NOT think all of these people are living a lie.

You just produced a very stupid take.
Congrats!


About the other countries...

This is courtesy of Japan, and the wonderful space program they have.
Where they fleece their people, just like NASA fleeces us.







What do you think of this?

Do you think it is real?

[Softball Bat]

I cannot imagine the pride you must feel knowing that you are the one who must stand strong against the rising tide of bullshit (your word) that rolls in each year from the folks at NASA, SpaceX, etc. Satellite television has to be a hoax to you. Global Positioning Satellite data must be a hoax to you. Even a dude in a sailboat circumnavigating the Earth must be a hoax to you. Magnetic poles must be a hoax to you. Time zones, sunsets, moon phases and eclipses, comets, meteor craters and ships disappearing below the horizon gradually, bottom first every time, must be a hoax to you.

This is gibbering nonsense.

Attributing take after take to me -- which I have never offered as mine.
The few that I have offered takes on are grossly misrepresented by you.

It is essentially a meltdown on your part.


Get a grip.

[MgoBlue-LightSpecial]

I have already said many many times that I assume that there is no space.

[Shlomart Ben Yisrael]

What is going on here? :?

[Rooster]

I am wondering how all these various planets, moons, asteroids, and stars all managed to be placed full-disk side towards Earth. If Earth is a disk, it stands to reason every other celestial body is a disk as well. So how did they all end up facing us? Not one ended up edge on towards us.
Hmm. :?

[Goober McTuber]

I am wondering how all these various planets, moons, asteroids, and stars all managed to be placed full-disk side towards Earth. If Earth is a disk, it stands to reason every other celestial body is a disk as well. So how did they all end up facing us? Not one ended up edge on towards us.
Hmm. :?

Allah Akbar.

[Shlomart Ben Yisrael]

My life is too short...

Not nearly short enough.

[Shlomart Ben Yisrael]

btw ~ I am really goober

[Jay in Phoenix]

btw ~ I am really goober

Weird. I did not know Goober was a Canadian Jew.

Go figure.

[Shlomart Ben Yisrael]

I'm also an alcoholic exhibitionist. But what's a case of bourbon between two naked friends, eh?

[Jay in Phoenix]

A bi gezunt, du alter cocker.*







*funny how yiddish translates for the nude beach.

[Softball Bat]

I have already said many many times that I assume that there is no space.

Yeah, I know...

Star Trek, Star Wars...

[Softball Bat]

I am wondering how all these various planets, moons, asteroids, and stars all managed to be placed full-disk side towards Earth. If Earth is a disk, it stands to reason every other celestial body is a disk as well. So how did they all end up facing us? Not one ended up edge on towards us.
Hmm. :?

It stands to reason that the objects in our sky are disks, if earth is a disk?

1. Why? What reason?

2. I have certainly never claimed that I know that they are disks.



I saw no theory from you, btw...

Rooster, almost everything that can be filmed... is filmed.

Why wouldn't they film a rocket going all the way to space?

They never thought of it?
Didn't think it would kool or interesting?
Just didn't give a damn?


Seriously, what's your theory on that?

Why do you think they have never filmed a rocket going from earth to space?

[Softball Bat]

You ask questions and don't bother to read the answers?

Sounds about right.


Good luck.

Enjoy your globe.

My life is too short to read through all of your drool. Address me directly, and then I might see it.

I DID, clown.

So what's outside the sphere, 'tardt?

I assume that the Bible is correct, and that waters are above the firmament.

Genesis 1:6-8

Genesis 1:14-18

Psalms 148:1-6

Read them.


I don't claim it to be FACT, but it is my assumption.

Page 1.
There it is.




Good grief!

[Softball Bat]

Btw, Mgo...

You never answered.

Do you think this is real?









Does anyone here think this is real?

[Jay in Phoenix]

This is real...



The video is soft focused and shaky, but it is shot through a smaller telescope. The moon in particular shows a global shape, as does Jupiter and Saturn. Not debatable.

[Softball Bat]

So what?




Japanese Moon footage.

Real?

[Jay in Phoenix]

Yes, real. Prove that it isn't.

[Rooster]

I am wondering how all these various planets, moons, asteroids, and stars all managed to be placed full-disk side towards Earth. If Earth is a disk, it stands to reason every other celestial body is a disk as well. So how did they all end up facing us? Not one ended up edge on towards us.
Hmm. :?

It stands to reason that the objects in our sky are disks, if earth is a disk?

1. Why? What reason?

2. I have certainly never claimed that I know that they are disks.

I saw no theory from you, btw...

Rooster, almost everything that can be filmed... is filmed.

Why wouldn't they film a rocket going all the way to space?

They never thought of it?
Didn't think it would kool or interesting?
Just didn't give a damn?


Seriously, what's your theory on that?

Why do you think they have never filmed a rocket going from earth to space?

Point taken; you did not claim that Earth is a disk. I concede I made an assumption that was wrong. However, as the equation A = B and B = C, therefore A = C, if you don’t know what shape Earth is, but you can see that all the other celestial bodies are disk shaped, it stands to reason that the earth resembles those other bodies which we can observe. From that you can derive that the shape of Earth is, at the very least when seen from afar, a disk, presuming that everything is two dimensional in... the firmament... and God was consistent when He created stuff.

However, I recall years ago that scientists shot a laser at the moon to measure both its distance and its shape. As nearly everyone else would expect, those scientists discovered that it was half spherical, in the sense that they could not measure the dark side. Would you make the claim that our moon is shaped like an ice cream scoop cut in half? Mind you, there have been a multitude of surprises for astronomers upon every discovery, but as of yet they have not found any objects with that shape yet.

As to your question about videoing a rocket shot from Earth to space, that has been done many times, both from the perspective of the observer here on the ground and from the rocket itself— as has been posted earlier by Jay. This is no secret or hidden recording— measurements taken during acceleration were and are highly necessary for improving performance and reducing failures, something desirable considering how expensive space work is.

[Softball Bat]

Japanese Moon footage.

Real?

Yes, real. Prove that it isn't.

Obviously. Your take?

It's ridiculously fake.

Marty's cartoons look more real.


Was it the tinkling music that helped persuade you two clowns to believe that it is real?