Starbucks

smackaholic · Post by **smackaholic** » Thu Apr 19, 2018 1:13 pm

What do you fukks think about this philly starbucks BS?

I think it is pretty fukking obvious what happened. These dudes rolled in, prolly to use their wifi and take a leak. They may or may not have intended to make a purchase when their homie showed up, but I doubt it.

An employee noticed they were loitering and asked them to either make a purchase or leave. They are 100% within their rights to do this. It is a fukking restaurant, not a public library.

Those fukkers could have either bought a horribly priced coffee or picked up their shit and left. They did neither. They made the conscious decision to sit there and create a scene. This is criminal tresspassing. It is illegal. Even for white folks.

And you know g0d damn well why. They knew that once things got interesting, all the liberal, white guilt ridden assholes that were in there would have their iphones at the ready to record yet another example of a brotha gettin' held down by the man. And that a few minutes in cuffs would be worth the payday that follows.

This is fukked up, and I would back Starbucks if they dealt with these tresspassing freeloading shitstains as they should, but you knew damn well Starbucks would melt into a quivering apologizing blob of goo. Fortunately the PPD commisioner, a balck dude, isn't playing that shit and is backing his officers 100% for doing their fukking job.

I am half tempted to stop into McD's today, get me a venti...errrrr large black coffee, then roll into SBs, sit down, have a sip of McD coffee, pull out my laptop and see what happens.

What is your policy regarding use of facilities without paying?

I am on the road a lot. If I have to take a leak, I will typically look for the closest McD's and if there aren't ridiculous lines, buy a cup of coffee or an iced tea even if I wasn't really looking for one at the time. I figure it's just the right thing to do.

One other thing I've noticed. the "restrooms are for customers" signs seem to be much more prevalent at establishments in the hood.

Why is this?

Is it because the owner of the establishment hates mvscals? Or is it because in the hood, the local vermin will abuse the fukk out of this service? Kind of like these fukks were doing.

And will someone 'splain to me exactly how SB is going to train its employees to not be white supremacists? Will they just say fuggit. Anyone can come in and sit here all fukking day if they want?

Softball Bat · Post by **Softball Bat** » Thu Apr 19, 2018 1:49 pm

smackaholic wrote:What do you fukks think about this philly starbucks BS?

I think...

the sissy bicycle helmets are freaking hilarious!

smackaholic · Post by **smackaholic** » Thu Apr 19, 2018 1:54 pm

I have one of those sissy helmets and I agree.

Bike cops should wear big heavy 3/4 helmets and mirror aviator glasses just like Ponch and John in Chips.

Softball Bat · Post by **Softball Bat** » Thu Apr 19, 2018 2:00 pm

Yeah.

Those black dudes not only got rolled, they got rolled by white sissies.

That had to be a very bad day.

Joe in PB · Post by **Joe in PB** » Thu Apr 19, 2018 2:54 pm

Unfortunately we now live in a society where many blacks want and get special treatment, and anybody who objects is a racist.

I stop into Starbucks when I get my car washed and always buy something while I wait and use their WiFi. They're a business and that is understood...for most.

I also saw yesterday that a black man went into a Starbucks and demanded a free reparation coffee because of the two free loaders who were arrested after being asked to either buy something or leave......

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Innocent Bystander · Post by **Innocent Bystander** » Thu Apr 19, 2018 3:02 pm

smackaholic wrote:What do you fukks think about this philly starbucks BS?

I think it is pretty fukking obvious what happened. These dudes rolled in, prolly to use their wifi and take a leak. They may or may not have intended to make a purchase when their homie showed up, but I doubt it.

An employee noticed they were loitering and asked them to either make a purchase or leave. They are 100% within their rights to do this. It is a fukking restaurant, not a public library.

Those fukkers could have either bought a horribly priced coffee or picked up their shit and left. They did neither. They made the conscious decision to sit there and create a scene. This is criminal tresspassing. It is illegal. Even for white folks.

It is not mandatory to purchase anything in order to sit in Starbucks. It's polite, but not mandatory.

You're correct that management has the right to refuse service to anyone -- but pick your battles. Don't be Woolworths.

There are conflicting reports about whether she asked them to leave before calling the police.

The 'homie' they were waiting for was a white real estate agent. The real estate agent told the cops and the manager they were waiting for him. The cops arrested the men because it's not the real estate agent's property, it's Starbucks with the manager being the representative of Starbucks.

The black chief is a cop. Cops cover other cops.

Was the manager fired or just moved to a new location?

I got profiled in a grocery store in an unnamed village recently. It was only funny because the profiler was Hispanic. He was as much a foreigner there as I, so who told him to follow me then confront me? Then the driver of the cab I'd pre-negotiated 30 minutes time for came in a couple minutes later and said I'd been in there for 45 minutes. She asked me why I was shopping. That was a weird question, so I ignored it. I asked her to confirm I'd been in there 45 minutes? then showed her the time I placed the call to her dispatch on my cell and told her she was mistaken (it was 22 minutes since) and asked her if she wanted to continue, or if she wanted to break the deal. She said she could wait but hurry up. I told her I'd pay her, but I'd take another cab to my other destination. She was like no, no, I take you (Korean). I didn't want to deal with a cabby who lies, though. And she didn't want my presence or my money. I still tipped her, because the roads were crap, but I didn't tip her as much as the other cab drivers.

A man hung himself the night before last. If everyone lives 10 people deep, how can anyone suicide quietly? I didn't ask if he did it traditionally or Western noose style. The problem with suicides out here is copycatters. He was another in a long line of men who didn't see a place in the world for himself. The suicides who take off all of their clothes and lay in the snow too drunk to sense anything except the pain of their lives slipping away are counted as alcohol related deaths, not suicides. There is no drive to do something different. There is no reason Koreans (and Albanians) should own the cab industry. But the native population is strange about business opportunities, and family ties. I can almost see why they won't touch it, just as they won't touch being State Troopers or local officers. Becoming cab drivers isn't just about alcohol related offenses, but about a change in traditional thinking regarding service.

All of that to say, do you really believe those two men had no business being there, smackoholic?

Innocent Bystander · Post by **Innocent Bystander** » Thu Apr 19, 2018 3:17 pm

Joe in PB wrote:Unfortunately we now live in a society where many blacks want and get special treatment, and anybody who objects is a racist.

I stop into Starbucks when I get my car washed and always buy something while I wait and use their WiFi. They're a business and that is understood...for most.

I also saw yesterday that a black man went into a Starbucks and demanded a free reparation coffee because of the two free loaders who were arrested after being asked to either buy something or leave......

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I don't believe you. Were you and your wife also assaulted at a Black Panther premiere two months ago?

Yes, people should buy. But it is not mandatory, and Starbucks has built its entire business model around being loiter friendly.

Why are you loitering using their wifi instead of staying with your washed car?

What else did you do there? Who else did you notice?

Softball Bat · Post by **Softball Bat** » Thu Apr 19, 2018 3:35 pm

smackaholic wrote:these tresspassing freeloading shitstains

I'm not sure that they were any of these three things.

Were they trespassing?

Shitstains?

Why?

Freeloading?

I guess they claim to have been waiting for someone
A white dude, Annie says.

Well...

Appears to me that the Starbucks "braintrust" overreacted.

They should have just left them alone.

If the establishment has a big problem with many people just coming in and loitering there, then yeah, I guess you have to start to take a stand.
Or if the same dudes come in multiple times and just hang out there.

Sorry, but this seems to be a -----> YOU ARE BLACK kind of deal.

Not too cool.

Joe in PB · Post by **Joe in PB** » Thu Apr 19, 2018 3:42 pm

If the same thing happened to two white guys, would the event have even made the news?

Nope

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Softball Bat · Post by **Softball Bat** » Thu Apr 19, 2018 3:43 pm

It wouldn't be news because two white dudes who did that would not have had the cops called on them.

Joe in PB · Post by **Joe in PB** » Thu Apr 19, 2018 3:48 pm

Wow, poptard the voice of God has spoken.

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Mikey · Post by **Mikey** » Thu Apr 19, 2018 3:49 pm

For years, Starbucks has described its stores as a "third space" — a quasi-public place, away from home or the office, where anyone is welcome to hang out.

But the rules about that space are murky. They can vary from place to place, and even store to store. The way the rules are enforced isn't always consistent, either, which is how unconscious bias and discrimination can creep in.

https://www.npr.org/2018/04/18/60369317 ... for-compan

A lot of people hang out for hours in Starbucks without buying anything.

When I was a "road warrior" on 100% travel we often used Starbucks as our office away from home, holding meetings there etc. Usually bought something but never felt it was a requirement. Also never had a problem waiting there for a co-worker or client before buying something.

Of course I'm not a nasty looking black dude so I probably wouldn't have scared smackaholic or Pussy in PB too much.

Rooster · Post by **Rooster** » Thu Apr 19, 2018 4:54 pm

Joe, please tell me that you were joking when you heard some dude ask for free reparation coffee. Too funny.

As to the OP, I think there may be some context to this story that is missing. I notice that the bathroom has a lock on it which requires either a key or a code from the barista. This tells me that vagrants are a problem. Now that it is clear Starbucks policy is that no one will be denied entry for any reason, that particular coffee shop is going to see dozens of bums sleeping on the furniture, thus driving legitimate business away.

One thing which I think is stupid is that Starbucks is having training on unconscious bias. This has been shown to be complete farce psychologically. But hey, it’s a private company, so they can waste their money in any manner they choose.

Personally, I think Starbucks coffee tastes like shit, so I never buy any of their stuff. And the fact that Schultz sold my beloved Sonics to Oklahoma means that if he went bankrupt tomorrow I’d probably cheer. After all, I wanted the team plane when it was flying the players to OK to lose its wings in flight killing everyone aboard. But I digress.

Joe in PB · Post by **Joe in PB** » Thu Apr 19, 2018 5:04 pm

Rooster wrote:Joe, please tell me that you were joking when you heard some dude ask for free reparation coffee. Too funny.

https://ijr.com/ijr-red/2018/04/1086207 ... parations/

smackaholic · Post by **smackaholic** » Thu Apr 19, 2018 5:33 pm

Mikey wrote:
For years, Starbucks has described its stores as a "third space" — a quasi-public place, away from home or the office, where anyone is welcome to hang out.

But the rules about that space are murky. They can vary from place to place, and even store to store. The way the rules are enforced isn't always consistent, either, which is how unconscious bias and discrimination can creep in.
https://www.npr.org/2018/04/18/60369317 ... for-compan

A lot of people hang out for hours in Starbucks without buying anything.

When I was a "road warrior" on 100% travel we often used Starbucks as our office away from home, holding meetings there etc. Usually bought something but never felt it was a requirement. Also never had a problem waiting there for a co-worker or client before buying something.

Of course I'm not a nasty looking black dude so I probably wouldn't have scared smackaholic or Pussy in PB too much.

Had an employee walked up to you and said, "sir, I noticed you've been here for a while. Are you going to buy something? If you are, please do so, otherwise I'm going to have to ask you to leave." what would you have done? I suspect you would have bought something or left.

This really is quite simple and standard policy in many places. The owners of an establishment don't owe you a free place to hang out. They welcome you in to buy shit. If you don't and expect to use their facilities, and are asked to leave and you don't, you are a tresspasser.

smackaholic · Post by **smackaholic** » Thu Apr 19, 2018 5:38 pm

McD's is my office of choice. Good wifi. Cheap, passable coffee.

I would never think of using their restaurant as an office without buying something. As I said earlier, I feel bad enough about even taking a leak there without spending a buck. My general rule is, I will by a coffee, or more, if there is not a long line.

Mikey · Post by **Mikey** » Thu Apr 19, 2018 5:53 pm

smackaholic wrote:
Mikey wrote:
For years, Starbucks has described its stores as a "third space" — a quasi-public place, away from home or the office, where anyone is welcome to hang out.

But the rules about that space are murky. They can vary from place to place, and even store to store. The way the rules are enforced isn't always consistent, either, which is how unconscious bias and discrimination can creep in.
https://www.npr.org/2018/04/18/60369317 ... for-compan

A lot of people hang out for hours in Starbucks without buying anything.

When I was a "road warrior" on 100% travel we often used Starbucks as our office away from home, holding meetings there etc. Usually bought something but never felt it was a requirement. Also never had a problem waiting there for a co-worker or client before buying something.

Of course I'm not a nasty looking black dude so I probably wouldn't have scared smackaholic or Pussy in PB too much.
Had an employee walked up to you and said, "sir, I noticed you've been here for a while. Are you going to buy something? If you are, please do so, otherwise I'm going to have to ask you to leave." what would you have done? I suspect you would have bought something or left.

This really is quite simple and standard policy in many places. The owners of an establishment don't owe you a free place to hang out. They welcome you in to buy shit. If you don't and expect to use their facilities, and are asked to leave and you don't, you are a tresspasser.

Starbucks, or any other business, is perfectly within their rights to do whatever they please regarding who they choose to serve or allow to hang out. I never said that they weren't.

You obviously are more comfortable in a place that would allow white folks to hang out but not scary looking black men. That's your choice.
Starbucks as a corporation, based on their response to this, just as obviously does not wish to project with that image.

Mikey · Post by **Mikey** » Thu Apr 19, 2018 5:54 pm

smackaholic wrote:As I said earlier, I feel bad enough about even taking a leak there without spending a buck.

But you do it anyway. You should be cuffed and hauled out.

Joe in PB · Post by **Joe in PB** » Thu Apr 19, 2018 6:21 pm

Mikey wrote: You obviously are more comfortable in a place that would allow white folks to hang out but not scary looking black men.

Where did Smakie say that? Oh, I got it, his take differs from Alt Left Tubo, so he must be a racist.

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Goober McTuber · Post by **Goober McTuber** » Thu Apr 19, 2018 6:49 pm

Softball Bat wrote:It wouldn't be news because two white dudes who did that would not have had the cops called on them.

Exactly.

Joe in PB · Post by **Joe in PB** » Thu Apr 19, 2018 6:52 pm

Because they would have either bought something or left the premises, but if they had been arrested the story wouldn't have been news worthy.

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Goober McTuber · Post by **Goober McTuber** » Thu Apr 19, 2018 7:43 pm

It would be extremely newsworthy because it would never happen. Why is this so hard to understand?

Joe in PB · Post by **Joe in PB** » Thu Apr 19, 2018 8:19 pm

When a white cop shoots a white criminal, is that national news like when a white cop shoots a black criminal?

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Rooster · Post by **Rooster** » Thu Apr 19, 2018 9:59 pm

http://dailycaller.com/2018/04/19/democ ... ions-2022/

That’s gonna be a whole lot of free coffee!

Rooster · Post by **Rooster** » Thu Apr 19, 2018 10:16 pm

Lol,

Zack, you poor bastard. Having to stand there while some chucklehead yells at you three feet away about something you had nothing to do with, yet knowing if you do anything more than stand there passively you’ll get fired.

In an alternate universe Zack would have had his own bullhorn and with the volume turned up to eleven said, ”SIR, UNLESS YOU WISH TO PLACE AN ORDER, PLEASE STEP OUT OF LINE AND LET THE NEXT CUSTOMER THROUGH. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. ANGRY BLACK MAN.”

Mikey · Post by **Mikey** » Thu Apr 19, 2018 10:42 pm

Nobody said being a barista would be easy.

Shlomart Ben Yisrael · Thu Apr 19, 2018 10:58 pm

If you want to know who's behind this agitation against Starbucks, just peep that kike-ess beside the schvoogie with the megaphone...

Rooster wrote:

1. Drop Starbucks' stock
2. Buy it back for pennies on the dollar
3. Liquidate assets
4. ...and finally...re-brand!

"Oy Vey! You don't want that racist coffee, goy! Try this new place...Shlomart's Beanery!"

Welcome to my world.

Shlomart Ben Yisrael · Thu Apr 19, 2018 11:00 pm

But in all seriousness, Shlomart's Beanery is going to be huuuuuuuuge.

Mikey · Post by **Mikey** » Thu Apr 19, 2018 11:04 pm

Shlomart Ben Yisrael wrote:But in all seriousness, Shlomart's Beanery is going to be huuuuuuuuge.

I might check it out.
As long as you don't allow any beaners.

Shlomart Ben Yisrael · Thu Apr 19, 2018 11:05 pm

I'm the Jew with the brew that satisfies through and through.

Carson · Post by **Carson** » Thu Apr 19, 2018 11:20 pm

Your Jew brew turns my poo to goo.

Shlomart Ben Yisrael · Thu Apr 19, 2018 11:25 pm

You wanna sue? I can play that game too. I've got seven Heeb lawyers in my crew.

Jay in Phoenix · Post by **Jay in Phoenix** » Thu Apr 19, 2018 11:51 pm

Oh, you do? A suing Jew. How very tried and true of you. That really makes me want to spew.

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Fri Apr 20, 2018 12:00 am

smackaholic wrote:One other thing I've noticed. the "restrooms are for customers" signs seem to be much more prevalent at establishments in the hood.

Why is this?

Homeless people.

Shlomart Ben Yisrael · Fri Apr 20, 2018 12:06 am

BSmack wrote:
smackaholic wrote:One other thing I've noticed. the "restrooms are for customers" signs seem to be much more prevalent at establishments in the hood.

Why is this?
Homeless people.

Oh please...homeless? Cry me a Red Sea.
My people were homeless for over 2500 years.

Derron · Post by **Derron** » Fri Apr 20, 2018 3:57 am

Mikey wrote:
Shlomart Ben Yisrael wrote:But in all seriousness, Shlomart's Beanery is going to be huuuuuuuuge.
I might check it out.
As long as you don't allow any beaners.

Says the guy who lives in SoCal. Hilarious.

Derron · Post by **Derron** » Fri Apr 20, 2018 4:03 am

BSmack wrote:
smackaholic wrote:One other thing I've noticed. the "restrooms are for customers" signs seem to be much more prevalent at establishments in the hood.

Why is this?
Homeless people.

Homeless people are not confined to the hood. My wife manages a retail home improvement store in a good area. The homeless bat shit crazy tweakers will use your bathroom to take a sink bath, or shoot up heroin. I have helped her eject several this week. The sign clearly says for customers only and that is why.

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Fri Apr 20, 2018 11:37 am

Derron wrote:
BSmack wrote:
smackaholic wrote:One other thing I've noticed. the "restrooms are for customers" signs seem to be much more prevalent at establishments in the hood.

Why is this?
Homeless people.

Homeless people are not confined to the hood. My wife manages a retail home improvement store in a good area. The homeless bat shit crazy tweakers will use your bathroom to take a sink bath, or shoot up heroin. I have helped her eject several this week. The sign clearly says for customers only and that is why.

It's a question of volume. Obviously her store has enough volume. It hardly surprises me given where you guys are as Dinsdale tells us Oregon has invented drug abuse. And everything else for that matter.

Goober McTuber · Post by **Goober McTuber** » Fri Apr 20, 2018 8:39 pm

Joe in PB wrote:When a white cop shoots a white criminal, is that national news like when a white cop shoots a black criminal?

White cops do shoot white criminals. White dudes do not get ushered out of Starbucks two minutes after entering for not yet buying anything. Don't be such a moron.

Joe in PB · Post by **Joe in PB** » Fri Apr 20, 2018 9:24 pm

I can see my point soared over your head like a cloud.

The bottom line is if two white dudes got arrested in the same exact situation, it would not have been reported on the news. In other words the story has been blown out of proportion. Dudes could have bought something, or left the premises, instead they chose to be arrested.

Now go find a nice bottle of whiskey and enjoy your afternoon/evening.

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