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[smackaholic]

All this nitpicking over the particulars of different flavors of socialism is ridiculous.

As for the Americanized version, it is where we are because good old fashioned, jack booted, line up all the faggots and shoot them in the head socialism wasn't politically viable. So what we have now from socialist leaders is a hodge-podge of groups that think they've been abused by mean old capitalist whitey. Rather than sell the alleged advantages of socialism, they put all their energy into telling each of these groups how badly they've been repressed.

It has worked very well with the LGBT crowd. It has worked with the illegal aliens. Up til now, it's most important group, balck folks have stayed on the plantation as well.

But, I think this last, most important bunch may just think about bolting, if the current economic trends continue. Balck employment is at record highs. And I still think that a lot of blacks are naturally drawn to Trump. They like his style. Trump is a Pimp, not a hoe. Mit Romney was a hoe. Add to this, the fact that the over the top pandering to the LGBT community really doesn't play well in the hood.

Of course the libs are painfully aware of this and have done everything in their power to paint him a racist. But these attacks are getting stale.

If Trump can ever get to anything better than 10-20% balck support, the other 80% might just re-examine things as well and there could be a rush to the exits of the dem. party. If this happens, you can stick a fork in the democrat party.

[Left Seater]

Not sure I would say that way but Holic does have a point.

Here in SAT the local black leadership has been very outspoken about illegal immigration. Their point is why should the country support those here illegally when actual US citizens are still in so much need? The same black leadership complains that they are in line behind illegal aliens for limited government resources. Will this lead them to pull the R lever, who knows, but it doesn’t make them want to run out to support the D’s.

Further much of the black community is closer to the R’s outside of social service programs.

[Goober McTuber]

It's also succinct.
The funny thing is each of you are telling me I'm wrong, but none of you have an explanation for why academia is full of these... whatevers who are pushing socialism.

I've lived in Madison for almost 50 years, since I came here to go to college in 1970. I've known a number of professors who teach at the University of Wisconsin. I still socialize with a few. None of them are or were Marxists. There is no ominous plot by college professors to turn their students into Marxists. Most of the professors I've known encourage their students to think for themselves. You are an even bigger idiot than I previously thought.

[smackaholic]

How many would you characterize as libertarian, or even middle of the road conservative?

[L45B]

Here in SAT the local black leadership has been very outspoken about illegal immigration.

In the coming years watch out also for the shift in how the black community views gun control vs 2A. Lots are waking up to the fact that strict gun control laws typically negatively affect their communities the hardest. Law abiding folks who happen to share street corners with the drug thugs (who will always find ways to get guns) should rightfully be able to defend themselves.

[Goober McTuber]

How many would you characterize as libertarian, or even middle of the road conservative?

There's a few that I believe are Libertarians. Conservatives? None. These are people with PhD's. Really smart individuals.

This discussion was really about tinfoil hat Rooster's ridiculous premise that there's this broad conspiracy among these educators to indoctrinate all their poor students in the joys of socialism.

[Joe in PB]

Conservatives? None.

Thanks for clarifying that your professors were all liberals. When that is the case moderate thinking is not the norm, but the exception. Hence your belief that CNN is fair and balanced news, which it is not.



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[Goober McTuber]

Conservatives? None.

Thanks for clarifying that your professors were all liberals.

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That was a joke. Which, of course, sailed over your misshapen head.

[Joe in PB]

Jokes don't fly well when they go along with all your other bullshit.

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[Goober McTuber]

Conservatives? None. These are people with PhD's. Really smart individuals.

Jokes don't fly well when they're presented to a gibbering halfwit. Do you think that I actually believe there are no really smart conservatives? Not all conservatives are morons. But morons, for the most part, are conservatives.

[Joe in PB]

Goobs I don't consider you a halfwit, if I did I wouldn't bother with you, but the fact you consider me as one, means you must be one for sure.

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[Goober McTuber]

Goobs I don't consider you a halfwit, if I did I wouldn't bother with you, but the fact you consider me as one, means you must be one for sure.

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Logic fail.

[Goober McTuber]

Conservatives? None. These are people with PhD's. Really smart individuals.

Jokes don't fly well when they're presented to a gibbering halfwit. Do you think that I actually believe there are no really smart conservatives? Not all conservatives are morons. But morons, for the most part, are conservatives.

Per capita, I find that liberals are far less intelligent than conservatives. You are a cod-smoking liberal. Make no mistake about it.

Here's an interesting article.

https://reason.com/archives/2014/06/13/ ... n-liberals

[Goober McTuber]

Just include the rest of the quote, you disingenuous tard. It was the best part of the article.

Broadening party affiliation to include moderate to merely leaning respondents still results in a Republican advantage of 3.47 IQ points and 2.47 IQ points respectively. Carl reconciles his findings with the social science literature that reports that liberals are more intelligent than conservatives by proposing that Americans with classically liberal beliefs are even smarter. Carl further reports that those who endorse both social conservatism and economic statism also have lower verbal IQ scores.

"Overall, my findings suggest that higher intelligence among classically liberal Republicans compensates for lower intelligence among socially conservative Republicans," concludes Carl. If the dumb, I mean socially conservative, Republicans keep disrespecting us classical liberals, we'll take our IQ points and go home.

As gratifying as Carl's research findings are, it is still a deep puzzle to me why it apparently takes high intelligence to understand that the government should stay out of both the bedroom and the boardroom.

[Rooster]

It's also succinct.
The funny thing is each of you are telling me I'm wrong, but none of you have an explanation for why academia is full of these... whatevers who are pushing socialism.

I've lived in Madison for almost 50 years, since I came here to go to college in 1970. I still SOCIALIZE with a few.

I rest my case, Commie.

[Rooster]

Goobs I don't consider you a halfwit, if I did I wouldn't bother with you, but the fact you consider me as one, means you must be one for sure.

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Good point, Joe. He’s probably a quarterwit on a good day, but the cliche of the glass being half empty or full most assuredly does not apply to him.

[Goober McTuber]

It's also succinct.
The funny thing is each of you are telling me I'm wrong, but none of you have an explanation for why academia is full of these... whatevers who are pushing socialism.

I've lived in Madison for almost 50 years, since I came here to go to college in 1970. I still SOCIALIZE with a few.

I rest my case, Commie.

Yet another moron who equates socialism with communism. Who ties your shoes for you in the morning?

[Goober McTuber]

Just include the rest of the quote, you disingenuous tard. It was the best part of the article.

Broadening party affiliation to include moderate to merely leaning respondents still results in a Republican advantage of 3.47 IQ points and 2.47 IQ points respectively. Carl reconciles his findings with the social science literature that reports that liberals are more intelligent than conservatives by proposing that Americans with classically liberal beliefs are even smarter. Carl further reports that those who endorse both social conservatism and economic statism also have lower verbal IQ scores.

"Overall, my findings suggest that higher intelligence among classically liberal Republicans compensates for lower intelligence among socially conservative Republicans," concludes Carl. If the dumb, I mean socially conservative, Republicans keep disrespecting us classical liberals, we'll take our IQ points and go home.

As gratifying as Carl's research findings are, it is still a deep puzzle to me why it apparently takes high intelligence to understand that the government should stay out of both the bedroom and the boardroom.

So being the liberal you are (which you used to try to deny, and we laughed), you don't want Roseanne on TV, but you're okay with abortions? How extreme are you with this shit.

Who is "we"? Who said I don't want Roseanne on TV? (I never watched and I don't give a shit.) Abortions? Where did that come from? You really are a mess, tubby.

[smackaholic]

Are you saying that Communism is not just "all in socialism"?

Of course it is.

But then, you liberal idiots also try to paint the Nazis as some sort of right wing ideology.

The Nazis were socialist.

Communists are socialists.

Today's Democratic party in the US is more socialist than it has ever been.

A good number of Republicans, the establishment Republicans, in particular are right there with them.

Trump, IMO, has some socialist tendencies as well, but he has other characteristics that make it tolerable.

Fortunately, the Libertarians in the Republican party seem to be gaining ground and the social conservatives are coming to the realization that maybe government just butting the fukk out of that topic might be the way to go.

[L45B]

Trump, IMO, has some socialist tendencies as well...

Tariff tariff tariff

[Goober McTuber]

Are you saying that Communism is not just "all in socialism"?

Of course it is.

You are a simple-minded tool. There is really very little hope for you.

BTW, that "choke on a dick" thing? I didn't mean today. I hope you live for another 50 years, buddy. Just that, when it's your time, I hope you're not taken by ALS, but that you...choke on a dick.